After trying benzos - feel like a recovering alcoholic

i gotta say, when i took wellbutrin, i had "brain zaps". i asked my
psych about it, and he said it was normal and typical...and that they
would go away. they did go away. (i was relieved) maybe they can't
always document everything about some of these meds. i think people
all respond differently to them.



On 7 May 2008 09:04:51 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:

>~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>>
>>"
>>
>>...The world according to Smelliot.
>
>LOL
>
>You can be dangerous, Laurie. Recently, when a new poster asked about brain zaps
>and Wellbutrin, you told him 'it was normal' for the med.
>
>It's not and I told him the facts (and cited all the references necessary).
>
>You remained silent from then on, which is most unusual
>
>I'm talking about Chip and yes, that's the world according to me.

"Bear" <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:220176291.0000edc8.079.0001@drn.newsguy.com.. .
> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>>
>>"
>>
>>...The world according to Smelliot.
>
> LOL
>
> You can be dangerous, Laurie. Recently, when a new poster asked about
> brain zaps
> and Wellbutrin, you told him 'it was normal' for the med.
>
> It's not and I told him the facts (and cited all the references
> necessary).
>
> You remained silent from then on, which is most unusual
>
> I'm talking about Chip and yes, that's the world according to me.


I just have one question for you. Since the warmer weather is here, have
you had your flea bath yet??

HAND!!

--

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¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln

>

"Gigglz" <Frekklz@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1jl3241d4p5s84hmt5fno1a9i1flgf8l4g@4ax.com...
>i gotta say, when i took wellbutrin, i had "brain zaps". i asked my
> psych about it, and he said it was normal and typical...and that they
> would go away. they did go away. (i was relieved) maybe they can't
> always document everything about some of these meds. i think people
> all respond differently to them.

Yeppers, Giggz. Everyone I know, and then some, who has been on Wellbutrin
and then tried to get off has gone through the zaps. They can happen with
any and all sudden decreases in AD's.

--

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln

>
>
>
> On 7 May 2008 09:04:51 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>>>
>>>"
>>>
>>>...The world according to Smelliot.
>>
>>LOL
>>
>>You can be dangerous, Laurie. Recently, when a new poster asked about
>>brain zaps
>>and Wellbutrin, you told him 'it was normal' for the med.
>>
>>It's not and I told him the facts (and cited all the references
>>necessary).
>>
>>You remained silent from then on, which is most unusual
>>
>>I'm talking about Chip and yes, that's the world according to me.
>

On 7 May 2008 09:10:02 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Gigglz, wrote:
>
>>On 6 May 2008 18:41:22 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>I just want to poke when I want - and trust me - he deserves some poking.
>
>>i don't think anyone "deserves" it.
>
>Then I guess you need to post the same to Laurie for taking a poke at me.
>
>I'd expect equal treatment if you're a fair person, which I think you are.
>
>Nothing personal to you Gigglz.


are you asking for equal opportunity poking?

can everyone just kiss and make up?

LOL

On Wed, 7 May 2008 12:35:34 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
<nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:

>"Gigglz" <Frekklz@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1jl3241d4p5s84hmt5fno1a9i1flgf8l4g@4ax.com.. .
>>i gotta say, when i took wellbutrin, i had "brain zaps". i asked my
>> psych about it, and he said it was normal and typical...and that they
>> would go away. they did go away. (i was relieved) maybe they can't
>> always document everything about some of these meds. i think people
>> all respond differently to them.
>
>Yeppers, Giggz. Everyone I know, and then some, who has been on Wellbutrin
>and then tried to get off has gone through the zaps. They can happen with
>any and all sudden decreases in AD's.

well one thing i DO know is, it was scary as hell.
i thought i was having some kind of aneurysm of something!

On Wed, 7 May 2008 12:24:52 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
<nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:

>"Bear" <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:220176291.0000edc8.079.0001@drn.newsguy.com. ..
>> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>>>
>>>"
>>>
>>>...The world according to Smelliot.
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> You can be dangerous, Laurie. Recently, when a new poster asked about
>> brain zaps
>> and Wellbutrin, you told him 'it was normal' for the med.
>>
>> It's not and I told him the facts (and cited all the references
>> necessary).
>>
>> You remained silent from then on, which is most unusual
>>
>> I'm talking about Chip and yes, that's the world according to me.
>
>
>I just have one question for you. Since the warmer weather is here, have
>you had your flea bath yet??
>
>HAND!!

i guess i missed out on all the fun of the good old ASAP days.
i have visions of you all holding hands, carrying daisies, passing
doobies, wearing colorful clothing full of peace signs :-)

"all we are sayyyyyyyyinggggggggggggg, is give peace a chance"

~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:

>I just have one question for you. Since the warmer weather is here, have
>you had your flea bath yet??

Now that you mention it, my two goldens are getting THE bath treatment (groomed)
this Friday. They'll be glad that you're concerned.

Gigglz, wrote:

>i gotta say, when i took wellbutrin, i had "brain zaps". i asked my
>psych about it, and he said it was normal and typical...and that they
>would go away. they did go away. (i was relieved) maybe they can't
>always document everything about some of these meds. i think people
>all respond differently to them.

Even Xanax has brain zaps reported, but it's very unusual.

To quote: "The phenomenon is most commonly associated with paroxetine (Paxil,
Seroxat), fluoxetine (Prozac), venlafaxine (Effexor), sertraline (Zoloft),
duloxetine (Cymbalta), fluvoxamine (Luvox), citalopram (Celexa), escitalopram
(Lexapro), and tramadol (Ultram)."

What I'm referring to is this:

Title: Re: Wellbutrin and Brain Zaps???
Author: "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nobody@myjunkaddy.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:53:43 -0400
Message-ID: <47e660ec$0$24078$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>

"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:8c72bd8e-7255-43e2-9cf1-227dbe08de0b@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> I've just discontinued Zyban/Wellbutrin (Bupropion). I'm getting Brain
> Zap's is this normal? This was not a sertonergic anti-depressant.
>
> Any experiences???

Yes it's normal...

////////

No, it's not normal. Possible? Yes. Probable? No.

Incorrect replies, such as "yes it's normal" need to be corrected. (note - I
didn't take Laurie out on the carpet, or even mention her name).
Some people count on these groups for information. It should be as accurate as
possible, since some people are grasping at straws when checking out information
on newsgroups. Should they take what they read as gospel? Of course not.
Some people, however, are reaching out - and all of us who are non-professionals
should be very careful in such replies.

I think that's a prudent way to view things.

Gigglz, wrote:
>
>On 7 May 2008 09:10:02 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Gigglz, wrote:
>>
>>>On 6 May 2008 18:41:22 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>I just want to poke when I want - and trust me - he deserves some poking.
>>
>>>i don't think anyone "deserves" it.
>>
>>Then I guess you need to post the same to Laurie for taking a poke at me.
>>
>>I'd expect equal treatment if you're a fair person, which I think you are.
>>
>>Nothing personal to you Gigglz.

>are you asking for equal opportunity poking?

I believe that when standing in line with a pretty girl in front of me, yes. If
there's a guy behind me tho, I'd prefer to opt out

>can everyone just kiss and make up?

After a good poke, I think it's already past the kissing stage

E...

i guess i would have probably answered that question the same exact
way though, after having the experience myself. (as she did)



On 7 May 2008 10:42:51 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Gigglz, wrote:
>
>>i gotta say, when i took wellbutrin, i had "brain zaps". i asked my
>>psych about it, and he said it was normal and typical...and that they
>>would go away. they did go away. (i was relieved) maybe they can't
>>always document everything about some of these meds. i think people
>>all respond differently to them.
>
>Even Xanax has brain zaps reported, but it's very unusual.
>
>To quote: "The phenomenon is most commonly associated with paroxetine (Paxil,
>Seroxat), fluoxetine (Prozac), venlafaxine (Effexor), sertraline (Zoloft),
>duloxetine (Cymbalta), fluvoxamine (Luvox), citalopram (Celexa), escitalopram
>(Lexapro), and tramadol (Ultram)."
>
>What I'm referring to is this:
>
>Title: Re: Wellbutrin and Brain Zaps???
>Author: "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nobody@myjunkaddy.com>
>Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:53:43 -0400
>Message-ID: <47e660ec$0$24078$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>
>
>"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>news:8c72bd8e-7255-43e2-9cf1-227dbe08de0b@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> I've just discontinued Zyban/Wellbutrin (Bupropion). I'm getting Brain
>> Zap's is this normal? This was not a sertonergic anti-depressant.
>>
>> Any experiences???
>
>Yes it's normal...
>
>////////
>
>No, it's not normal. Possible? Yes. Probable? No.
>
>Incorrect replies, such as "yes it's normal" need to be corrected. (note - I
>didn't take Laurie out on the carpet, or even mention her name).
>Some people count on these groups for information. It should be as accurate as
>possible, since some people are grasping at straws when checking out information
>on newsgroups. Should they take what they read as gospel? Of course not.
>Some people, however, are reaching out - and all of us who are non-professionals
>should be very careful in such replies.
>
>I think that's a prudent way to view things.

On 7 May 2008 10:45:59 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Gigglz, wrote:
>>
>>On 7 May 2008 09:10:02 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Gigglz, wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 6 May 2008 18:41:22 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>I just want to poke when I want - and trust me - he deserves some poking.
>>>
>>>>i don't think anyone "deserves" it.
>>>
>>>Then I guess you need to post the same to Laurie for taking a poke at me.
>>>
>>>I'd expect equal treatment if you're a fair person, which I think you are.
>>>
>>>Nothing personal to you Gigglz.
>
>>are you asking for equal opportunity poking?



>I believe that when standing in line with a pretty girl in front of me, yes. If
>there's a guy behind me tho, I'd prefer to opt out

well that wouldn't be equal opportunity poking then :-)



>>can everyone just kiss and make up?
>
>After a good poke, I think it's already past the kissing stage
>
>E...


good point.

Gigglz, wrote:

>i guess i would have probably answered that question the same exact
>way though, after having the experience myself. (as she did)

I think you'd have said that it had been YOUR experience, and that YMMV.

Stating that it's "NORMAL" just isn't correct. I doubt you'd have claimed that
it was, in fact - unless you were to have looked it up and found that to be the
case (which it isn't).
Even Xanax has been shown, in cases, to produce a similar reaction. It's just
not the rule - let alone "normal."

E...

>On 7 May 2008 10:42:51 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Gigglz, wrote:
>>
>>>i gotta say, when i took wellbutrin, i had "brain zaps". i asked my
>>>psych about it, and he said it was normal and typical...and that they
>>>would go away. they did go away. (i was relieved) maybe they can't
>>>always document everything about some of these meds. i think people
>>>all respond differently to them.
>>
>>Even Xanax has brain zaps reported, but it's very unusual.
>>
>>To quote: "The phenomenon is most commonly associated with paroxetine (Paxil,
>>Seroxat), fluoxetine (Prozac), venlafaxine (Effexor), sertraline (Zoloft),
>>duloxetine (Cymbalta), fluvoxamine (Luvox), citalopram (Celexa), escitalopram
>>(Lexapro), and tramadol (Ultram)."
>>
>>What I'm referring to is this:
>>
>>Title: Re: Wellbutrin and Brain Zaps???
>>Author: "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nobody@myjunkaddy.com>
>>Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:53:43 -0400
>>Message-ID: <47e660ec$0$24078$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>
>>
>>"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:8c72bd8e-7255-43e2-9cf1-227dbe08de0b@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>> I've just discontinued Zyban/Wellbutrin (Bupropion). I'm getting Brain
>>> Zap's is this normal? This was not a sertonergic anti-depressant.
>>>
>>> Any experiences???
>>
>>Yes it's normal...
>>
>>////////
>>
>>No, it's not normal. Possible? Yes. Probable? No.
>>
>>Incorrect replies, such as "yes it's normal" need to be corrected. (note - I
>>didn't take Laurie out on the carpet, or even mention her name).
>>Some people count on these groups for information. It should be as accurate as
>>possible, since some people are grasping at straws when checking out information
>>on newsgroups. Should they take what they read as gospel? Of course not.
>>Some people, however, are reaching out - and all of us who are non-professionals
>>should be very careful in such replies.
>>
>>I think that's a prudent way to view things.
>

"Bear" <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:220182248.00013588.064.0001@drn.newsguy.com.. .
> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>
>>I just have one question for you. Since the warmer weather is here, have
>>you had your flea bath yet??
>
> Now that you mention it, my two goldens are getting THE bath treatment
> (groomed)
> this Friday. They'll be glad that you're concerned.

Of course I'm concerned. I absolutely adore anything that has fleas...
even you, dear sir!!

Happy the Basset goes for the works on Friday too!!

--

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln

--

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln


"Bear" <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:220182171.000134e6.029.0001@drn.newsguy.com.. .
> Gigglz, wrote:
>
>>i gotta say, when i took wellbutrin, i had "brain zaps". i asked my
>>psych about it, and he said it was normal and typical...and that they
>>would go away. they did go away. (i was relieved) maybe they can't
>>always document everything about some of these meds. i think people
>>all respond differently to them.
>
> Even Xanax has brain zaps reported, but it's very unusual.
>
> To quote: "The phenomenon is most commonly associated with paroxetine
> (Paxil,
> Seroxat), fluoxetine (Prozac), venlafaxine (Effexor), sertraline (Zoloft),
> duloxetine (Cymbalta), fluvoxamine (Luvox), citalopram (Celexa),
> escitalopram
> (Lexapro), and tramadol (Ultram)."
>
> What I'm referring to is this:
>
> Title: Re: Wellbutrin and Brain Zaps???
> Author: "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nobody@myjunkaddy.com>
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:53:43 -0400
> Message-ID: <47e660ec$0$24078$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>
>
> "ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:8c72bd8e-7255-43e2-9cf1-227dbe08de0b@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> I've just discontinued Zyban/Wellbutrin (Bupropion). I'm getting Brain
>> Zap's is this normal? This was not a sertonergic anti-depressant.
>>
>> Any experiences???
>
> Yes it's normal...
>
> ////////
>
> No, it's not normal. Possible? Yes. Probable? No.
>
> Incorrect replies, such as "yes it's normal" need to be corrected. (note -
> I
> didn't take Laurie out on the carpet, or even mention her name).
> Some people count on these groups for information. It should be as
> accurate as
> possible, since some people are grasping at straws when checking out
> information
> on newsgroups. Should they take what they read as gospel? Of course not.
> Some people, however, are reaching out - and all of us who are
> non-professionals
> should be very careful in such replies.
>
> I think that's a prudent way to view things.


Well then, I stand corrected, Elliot. And that's all that you needed to
say! However, if anyone "relies" on Usenet for 100% correct answers, they
shouldn't be on Usenet.

I should've said "imho" when I answered the OP re: Wellbutrin. Are the zaps
normal? Yes, I think they are.

--

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln



>

nahhh, i'm sure i would have just said it was normal, because it
happened to me...and that's what the psych said.


On 7 May 2008 13:50:24 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Gigglz, wrote:
>
>>i guess i would have probably answered that question the same exact
>>way though, after having the experience myself. (as she did)
>
>I think you'd have said that it had been YOUR experience, and that YMMV.
>
>Stating that it's "NORMAL" just isn't correct. I doubt you'd have claimed that
>it was, in fact - unless you were to have looked it up and found that to be the
>case (which it isn't).
>Even Xanax has been shown, in cases, to produce a similar reaction. It's just
>not the rule - let alone "normal."
>
>E...
>
>>On 7 May 2008 10:42:51 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Gigglz, wrote:
>>>
>>>>i gotta say, when i took wellbutrin, i had "brain zaps". i asked my
>>>>psych about it, and he said it was normal and typical...and that they
>>>>would go away. they did go away. (i was relieved) maybe they can't
>>>>always document everything about some of these meds. i think people
>>>>all respond differently to them.
>>>
>>>Even Xanax has brain zaps reported, but it's very unusual.
>>>
>>>To quote: "The phenomenon is most commonly associated with paroxetine (Paxil,
>>>Seroxat), fluoxetine (Prozac), venlafaxine (Effexor), sertraline (Zoloft),
>>>duloxetine (Cymbalta), fluvoxamine (Luvox), citalopram (Celexa), escitalopram
>>>(Lexapro), and tramadol (Ultram)."
>>>
>>>What I'm referring to is this:
>>>
>>>Title: Re: Wellbutrin and Brain Zaps???
>>>Author: "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nobody@myjunkaddy.com>
>>>Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:53:43 -0400
>>>Message-ID: <47e660ec$0$24078$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>
>>>
>>>"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:8c72bd8e-7255-43e2-9cf1-227dbe08de0b@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> I've just discontinued Zyban/Wellbutrin (Bupropion). I'm getting Brain
>>>> Zap's is this normal? This was not a sertonergic anti-depressant.
>>>>
>>>> Any experiences???
>>>
>>>Yes it's normal...
>>>
>>>////////
>>>
>>>No, it's not normal. Possible? Yes. Probable? No.
>>>
>>>Incorrect replies, such as "yes it's normal" need to be corrected. (note - I
>>>didn't take Laurie out on the carpet, or even mention her name).
>>>Some people count on these groups for information. It should be as accurate as
>>>possible, since some people are grasping at straws when checking out information
>>>on newsgroups. Should they take what they read as gospel? Of course not.
>>>Some people, however, are reaching out - and all of us who are non-professionals
>>>should be very careful in such replies.
>>>
>>>I think that's a prudent way to view things.
>>

On Wed, 7 May 2008 16:58:24 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
<nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:

>"Bear" <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:220182248.00013588.064.0001@drn.newsguy.com. ..
>> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>>
>>>I just have one question for you. Since the warmer weather is here, have
>>>you had your flea bath yet??
>>
>> Now that you mention it, my two goldens are getting THE bath treatment
>> (groomed)
>> this Friday. They'll be glad that you're concerned.
>
>Of course I'm concerned. I absolutely adore anything that has fleas...
>even you, dear sir!!
>
>Happy the Basset goes for the works on Friday too!!


is everyone bathing together? :-D

Bear schreef:
> Philip Peters, wrote:
>
>> Hillary? She's sunk.
>
>> P. (observer of American folklore)
>
> I can't wait for the movie to come out. The Titanic and now this?
>
> E... ( connoisseur of Dutch chocolate )



Actually the best chocolate is no longer Dutch but Belgian.

P. (did you vote in the Indiana primary?)

"Gigglz" <Frekklz@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v0e424l5r25nups6p3m725jcbp66q87o5g@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 7 May 2008 16:58:24 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
> <nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:
>
>>"Bear" <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:220182248.00013588.064.0001@drn.newsguy.com ...
>>> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>>>
>>>>I just have one question for you. Since the warmer weather is here,
>>>>have
>>>>you had your flea bath yet??
>>>
>>> Now that you mention it, my two goldens are getting THE bath treatment
>>> (groomed)
>>> this Friday. They'll be glad that you're concerned.
>>
>>Of course I'm concerned. I absolutely adore anything that has fleas...
>>even you, dear sir!!
>>
>>Happy the Basset goes for the works on Friday too!!
>
>
> is everyone bathing together? :-D

I don't see why not!! Saves on the water and bubble bill!!

--

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln


>

Philip Peters, wrote:

>> E... ( connoisseur of Dutch chocolate )

>Actually the best chocolate is no longer Dutch but Belgian.

Did Hershey Pennsylvania move to Belgian?

>P. (did you vote in the Indiana primary?)

Sure 'nouf. I voted in the Democratic primary, as there was little reason to
cross over to try to reject any specific candidates Two main issues for me
- Dem. Prez and my district's house of reps.
Julia Carson, long time black lady representing this district, died. There was a
special election about 5 months ago and her son was voted in to be the temp.
newbie to the house of representatives. ANYONE would be more qualified, so I
voted against him in the special election, and I voted FOR someone who is very
qualified in the primary. He won anyhow - and will go against the Republican who
he beat in the special election.

Dem. Prez saw Billary go from 10 points or more ahead about a month ago, to just
eking out 51-49 of the vote. Indiana was like most other places. The larger
cities (all of them except for one) voted for Obama. Everywhere else (rural)
voted for Billary. 4 years of college - votes went to Obama. Hi skewl drop outs
went to Billary.

Ah yes, the one person in the Republican primary that I'd have liked to vote
against was Dan Burton. He missed almost every vote over the past few years. In
most cases he was golfing. He'd have done well with Eisenhower, but still...

I'll vote against him in the general election - so that's okay too.

Just to stay within group topics, I have NO anxiety about walking to my poling
place, no anxiety about signing in (with photo ID, required now by law here), no
anxiety about the 'must stay put' while voting - but anxious as hell that Bush
is still in the white house

Oh yeah, the simple answer woulda been "yes."

On Wed, 7 May 2008 19:51:47 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
<nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:

>"Gigglz" <Frekklz@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:v0e424l5r25nups6p3m725jcbp66q87o5g@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 16:58:24 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
>> <nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Bear" <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:220182248.00013588.064.0001@drn.newsguy.co m...
>>>> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I just have one question for you. Since the warmer weather is here,
>>>>>have
>>>>>you had your flea bath yet??
>>>>
>>>> Now that you mention it, my two goldens are getting THE bath treatment
>>>> (groomed)
>>>> this Friday. They'll be glad that you're concerned.
>>>
>>>Of course I'm concerned. I absolutely adore anything that has fleas...
>>>even you, dear sir!!
>>>
>>>Happy the Basset goes for the works on Friday too!!
>>
>>
>> is everyone bathing together? :-D
>
>I don't see why not!! Saves on the water and bubble bill!!

but are there fleas swimming around in there? :-8

Ahhh, lucky you having 2 Goldens. They're my favorite breed. Nanny
"Bear" <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:220182248.00013588.064.0001@drn.newsguy.com.. .
> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>
>>I just have one question for you. Since the warmer weather is here, have
>>you had your flea bath yet??
>
> Now that you mention it, my two goldens are getting THE bath treatment
> (groomed)
> this Friday. They'll be glad that you're concerned.
>

May I ask if you'vre tried either of them (Paxil & Doxepin) alone, and in
that case which one you consider best and why? Also in that case, what
additional effect did you notice when adding the second AD to your
treatment?

I might ask my doc if I could try one of these, but he's likely to start me
on just one of them so I wonder which one of them I should suggest?

> Yes, in my opinion, because of the sedative-like feature, which your body
> eventually adjusts to. Nanny
> "John" <nospam@no.where> wrote in message
> news:4ae87$481ccdee$5013@news.teranews.com...
>>> Have you tried these 2 antidepressants?: Paxil and Doxepin. I take
>>> both for anxiety/depression instead of benzos. They took care of my
>>> panic attacks. Nanny
>>
>> I haven't tried any of those. Might be worth a try. Are they better for
>> anxiety than the rest of the drugs on the market acting on
>> serotonin/noradrenaline?
>>
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
>


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

> but anxious as hell that Bush
> is still in the white house


I upped my valium just in case ...........

Miss A.

"Gigglz" <Frekklz@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:aui424hf3bep9hqgrtbu6kuk0ijck3carn@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 7 May 2008 19:51:47 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
> <nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:
>
>>"Gigglz" <Frekklz@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:v0e424l5r25nups6p3m725jcbp66q87o5g@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 16:58:24 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
>>> <nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Bear" <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:220182248.00013588.064.0001@drn.newsguy.c om...
>>>>> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I just have one question for you. Since the warmer weather is here,
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>you had your flea bath yet??
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that you mention it, my two goldens are getting THE bath treatment
>>>>> (groomed)
>>>>> this Friday. They'll be glad that you're concerned.
>>>>
>>>>Of course I'm concerned. I absolutely adore anything that has fleas...
>>>>even you, dear sir!!
>>>>
>>>>Happy the Basset goes for the works on Friday too!!
>>>
>>>
>>> is everyone bathing together? :-D
>>
>>I don't see why not!! Saves on the water and bubble bill!!
>
> but are there fleas swimming around in there? :-8

No fleas, but I can already tell someone peed in here!! ;oP

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Miss Anna, Queen of good, evil and everything in-between, wrote:

>I upped my valium just in case ...........

Not without your doctor's orders! < or Philip telling you it's okay >

nanny, wrote:

>Ahhh, lucky you having 2 Goldens. They're my favorite breed.

I fell in luv with them in college. A good friend of mine had one - and my
border collie mutt mix and he would play (and fight) all the time.

When my 1st bestest dawg friend had to be put down, I had my first golden within
3 hours.
My wife and I met through our dogs (25 years ago). My golden, her Sheltie.

We now have my 4th and 5th goldens, along with our 1 year old Australian
Terriorist.


E...

On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:46:23 +0200, Anna <kojech@planet.nl> wrote:

>
>> but anxious as hell that Bush
>> is still in the white house
>
>
>I upped my valium just in case ...........
>
>Miss A.


my bushism calendar says "257 days" left in the white house.
anna, i do think that even if they fumigate the white house
afterwards, the new president won't be able to get the smell out :-D

apple pie hugs,
gigglz (house "troll")

On Thu, 8 May 2008 07:51:52 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
<nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:

>"Gigglz" <Frekklz@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:aui424hf3bep9hqgrtbu6kuk0ijck3carn@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 19:51:47 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
>> <nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Gigglz" <Frekklz@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:v0e424l5r25nups6p3m725jcbp66q87o5g@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 16:58:24 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
>>>> <nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Bear" <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:220182248.00013588.064.0001@drn.newsguy. com...
>>>>>> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I just have one question for you. Since the warmer weather is here,
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>you had your flea bath yet??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that you mention it, my two goldens are getting THE bath treatment
>>>>>> (groomed)
>>>>>> this Friday. They'll be glad that you're concerned.
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course I'm concerned. I absolutely adore anything that has fleas...
>>>>>even you, dear sir!!
>>>>>
>>>>>Happy the Basset goes for the works on Friday too!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> is everyone bathing together? :-D
>>>
>>>I don't see why not!! Saves on the water and bubble bill!!
>>
>> but are there fleas swimming around in there? :-8
>
>No fleas, but I can already tell someone peed in here!! ;oP


ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww! "we do not bathe in your toilet, please do not pee
in our bathtub" !!

iff'n one sees yellow bubbles, get out!!!!!!!

giggzzzzzzzz

Bear schreef:
> Miss Anna, Queen of good, evil and everything in-between, wrote:
>
>> I upped my valium just in case ...........
>
> Not without your doctor's orders! < or Philip telling you it's okay >
>


I can be bribed.

P.

On Thu, 08 May 2008 21:53:00 +0200, Philip Peters
<philip@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:

>Bear schreef:
>> Miss Anna, Queen of good, evil and everything in-between, wrote:
>>
>>> I upped my valium just in case ...........
>>
>> Not without your doctor's orders! < or Philip telling you it's okay >
>>
>
>
>I can be bribed.
>
>P.

with valium? :-D

giggz

Philip Peters schreef:
> Bear schreef:
>> Miss Anna, Queen of good, evil and everything in-between, wrote:
>>
>>> I upped my valium just in case ...........
>>
>> Not without your doctor's orders! < or Philip telling you it's okay >
>>
>
>
> I can be bribed.
>
> P.

BRIBE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bear schreef:
> Miss Anna, Queen of good, evil and everything in-between, wrote:
>
>> I upped my valium just in case ...........
>
> Not without your doctor's orders! < or Philip telling you it's okay >
>

Philip says it's okay so than it's okay :-)
I bribed him BTW hehe