Difference between Thoughts and Feelings

If I had to try to sum up my angst problems from all the posts I read and
all the therapy I have been thru, personally my beliefs about anxiety could
be summed up in a short few paragraphs
Anxiety if often the bodys reaction to stress either real or preceived,
either from childhood, dysfunctional family or stressful event (s) or
heredity,and the way the body reacts to this added stress and physical
adrenaline response, I think the differences between people with anxiety and
maybe other people is how we react to decision making and other life chances
due to stress . I often chose the instant response rather then the more
encompassing thought out response and thus suffered the consequences
greatly. I think its this difference between feelings and thoughts , even
when ackowledged that seperates real anxiety or acute and chrnoic
conditions. I think people often make decisions that mimick their past
families decision making L i ke a female growing up in abusive relationship
looking for guys who might be abusive or in my case seeing my dad as all
encompassing " saver" and me looking for someone to save. I am not sure if
thats a marker for anxiety but when you have anxiety the probability of
making the same decisions as family is more probably. Even me when I knew of
the desire to save someone and thought to have a changed perspective I did
it again. which leads me to final question, how much of our thoughts that
are changable actually changes. Another example. I know i have to do more
consistent slower things and changes to better my life but when I try I
just want intense and leave instead when I have to slow down and put up with
antsy or anxious condition. . My feelings overtake my thoughts. To some
extent Ihave changed but I wonder what percent of all changes people ask for
themselves when it comes to differences between thoughts and feelings they
actuallly accomplish. How do you accept the small changes without getting
depressed you couldn't make the larger ones?

I think the bigger the problem the longer time it takes. Its as simple as
that. The way I see it, the brain is like a 2 dimensional mud pit. Memories
are either shallow or deep, and thoughts are either extreme and middle
ground. Deeply memorized thoughts of extreme nature are the hardest to
change, the goal being to have your nature in the middle ground and deeply
ingrained.

Lol dunno if that makes sense.

I think you can do *almost* anything with you're brain if you work at it
hard enough and long enough with repetition.

Obbles

"mcsantipollution@yahoo.com" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GiJ0h.595$ee4.265@trndny06...
> If I had to try to sum up my angst problems from all the posts I read and
> all the therapy I have been thru, personally my beliefs about anxiety
> could be summed up in a short few paragraphs
> Anxiety if often the bodys reaction to stress either real or preceived,
> either from childhood, dysfunctional family or stressful event (s) or
> heredity,and the way the body reacts to this added stress and physical
> adrenaline response, I think the differences between people with anxiety
> and maybe other people is how we react to decision making and other life
> chances due to stress . I often chose the instant response rather then the
> more encompassing thought out response and thus suffered the consequences
> greatly. I think its this difference between feelings and thoughts , even
> when ackowledged that seperates real anxiety or acute and chrnoic
> conditions. I think people often make decisions that mimick their past
> families decision making L i ke a female growing up in abusive
> relationship looking for guys who might be abusive or in my case seeing my
> dad as all encompassing " saver" and me looking for someone to save. I am
> not sure if thats a marker for anxiety but when you have anxiety the
> probability of making the same decisions as family is more probably. Even
> me when I knew of the desire to save someone and thought to have a changed
> perspective I did it again. which leads me to final question, how much of
> our thoughts that are changable actually changes. Another example. I know
> i have to do more consistent slower things and changes to better my life
> but when I try I just want intense and leave instead when I have to slow
> down and put up with antsy or anxious condition. . My feelings overtake
> my thoughts. To some extent Ihave changed but I wonder what percent of
> all changes people ask for themselves when it comes to differences between
> thoughts and feelings they actuallly accomplish. How do you accept the
> small changes without getting depressed you couldn't make the larger ones?
>

John Sheppard wrote:
> I think the bigger the problem the longer time it takes.

I think sometimes it's really just a matter of attaining some clarity.
Having had some enormous problems once, I sat down and seriously
thought about what I wanted to do about them. I decided to simply
shake up the whole can - quit my job, sold my house, and moved out of
the city and worked someplace else for a year. Did this solve all my
problems? Of course not, but it did eliminate a couple really large
ones, and had all kinds of spillover effect on things I never would
have even imagined.

Its as simple as that.

Sometimes it's amazingly simple, and some things are amazingly arcane
and complicated. Either way, we have to manage it in a way that works
for us. The alternative is really unattractive, when considered.


The way I see it, the brain is like a 2 dimensional mud pit. Memories
> are either shallow or deep, and thoughts are either extreme and middle
> ground. Deeply memorized thoughts of extreme nature are the hardest to
> change, the goal being to have your nature in the middle ground and deeply
> ingrained.
>
> Lol dunno if that makes sense.

On a certain level it does. Balance is often incredibly "key" in
dealing with something.
Consider a continuum from "Total Dependence" (such as an infant has) to
"Total Independence" (which probably no one has, but is often a
favorite delusion). Somewhere in the middle (the balance point) is
"inter-dependence" where people "depend" on us, and we "depend" on
them. Either extreme is less than good. Total dependence allows for
very little, if any choice. Total independence would be very isolating
- and could anyone really completely and totally be "independent"?
Could they manufacture everything they needed? Paper, pencils, radios,
lightbulbs, waterpipes? It seems apparent that middle ground is where
it's at.
>
> I think you can do *almost* anything with you're brain if you work at it
> hard enough and long enough with repetition.

That's true, and one of those things is to make oneself anxious. Some
people are amazingly well-practiced at that "skill", and would do well
to study a different one.
>
> Obbles
>
> "mcsantipollution@yahoo.com" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:GiJ0h.595$ee4.265@trndny06...
> > If I had to try to sum up my angst problems from all the posts I read and
> > all the therapy I have been thru, personally my beliefs about anxiety
> > could be summed up in a short few paragraphs
> > Anxiety if often the bodys reaction to stress either real or preceived,
> > either from childhood, dysfunctional family or stressful event (s) or
> > heredity,and the way the body reacts to this added stress and physical
> > adrenaline response, I think the differences between people with anxiety
> > and maybe other people is how we react to decision making and other life
> > chances due to stress . I often chose the instant response rather then the
> > more encompassing thought out response and thus suffered the consequences
> > greatly. I think its this difference between feelings and thoughts , even
> > when ackowledged that seperates real anxiety or acute and chrnoic
> > conditions. I think people often make decisions that mimick their past
> > families decision making L i ke a female growing up in abusive
> > relationship looking for guys who might be abusive or in my case seeing my
> > dad as all encompassing " saver" and me looking for someone to save. I am
> > not sure if thats a marker for anxiety but when you have anxiety the
> > probability of making the same decisions as family is more probably. Even
> > me when I knew of the desire to save someone and thought to have a changed
> > perspective I did it again. which leads me to final question, how much of
> > our thoughts that are changable actually changes. Another example. I know
> > i have to do more consistent slower things and changes to better my life
> > but when I try I just want intense and leave instead when I have to slow
> > down and put up with antsy or anxious condition. . My feelings overtake
> > my thoughts. To some extent Ihave changed but I wonder what percent of
> > all changes people ask for themselves when it comes to differences between
> > thoughts and feelings they actuallly accomplish. How do you accept the
> > small changes without getting depressed you couldn't make the larger ones?
> >