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Old 03-02-2007, 03:30 AM
Jerim79
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I have always been afraid of heights. My fear of flying stems from
that. I can't look up from the base of a light pole, without getting
dizzy and anxious, much less being miles up in the air. It is the
height that leads to a fear of dying. Planes may be safer than all
other forms of transportation combined, but if your car's engine
overheats, you just pull off to the side of the road. A problem in the
air is multiplied many times by the height. I have never been afraid
of planes, really. I actually love planes, in the same way I love
trains.

When I took my current job 6 months ago, they let me know I would be
flying after hiring me. It was 6 months off in the future so I didn't
worry about. As it got closer, I started to dwell on it. I imagined
being at the airport, boarding the plane, taking off, etc. I panicked
so bad from just imaging, that my chest started to tighten up and I
got dizzy. Finally I just sat myself down and came to a conclusion. I
have always had an inferiority complex when compared to other people.
It just seems that everyone else is better than I at everything. I
finally realized that if I am to ever feel good about myself, I have
to overcome this. If I can do this, I will overcome one of my greatest
fears. I will feel better about myself, and perhaps a new world will
open for me. At the same time, I can't allow this fear to make me
inferior to others.

I have been able to psych myself up to such a degree that I feel
comfortable flying now. Actually, I am looking forward to it; this
could be the beginning of a better quality of life, if I don't
regress. The flight is tomorrow. It is at night, so I won't be able to
tell the height too much. The only thing that really causes me anxiety
right now is not knowing how an airport operates. I know you check big
luggage, but I don't know where. The ticket counter? I don't know what
you can and can't carry on a plane, in terms of luggage. What is
security like? I know they make you take off your shoes, but anything
else that is not so obvious? I know you can't carry sharp items on
board with you, but what if checking the bag they are in? What about
mouthwash and the like? Can you check it, just not bring in carry on?
Are you allowed to have a small bag in your lap or under your seat?
For instance, a laptop. Where do you pick up your luggage? I have been
able to ascertain that each airline has their own baggage claim area,
but is that the baggage from all their flights or just certain ones.
Who do I ask for assistance inside the airport with these type of
questions? It is all these little questions that I fear are going to
cause me to panic. In the past, when I am in an unfamiliar place, and
don't know what I am doing, I panic at the fear of looking stupid, and
being laughed at. From there, the anxiety might spread outward toward
the fear of flying.

Here is a map of the airport I will be at for reference:
http://www.mscaa.com/terminal.htm. Now, I know all airports don't have
the same layout, but can anyone help me? Can you point me toward
somewhere where I can find answers? I feel that if I can walk in there
and know where I am going and what I am doing, then I will be more
confident, which should keep the anxiety away. If I called the
airline, would they answer all these questions for me?

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Old 03-02-2007, 03:30 AM
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"Jerim79" <mylek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172769704.702962.229930@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> The only thing that really causes me anxiety
> right now is not knowing how an airport operates. I know you check big
> luggage, but I don't know where. The ticket counter?


Yes. You check your luggage and get your boarding pass at the ticket
counter. If you have printed your seat assignment/boarding pass in advance,
look to see whether they have a special line for people who already have
boarding passes; this usually expedites the baggage check-in process.

> I don't know what
> you can and can't carry on a plane, in terms of luggage.


See
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...ted-items.shtm
for the current list of what you can and cannot carry-on.

> What is
> security like? I know they make you take off your shoes, but anything
> else that is not so obvious?


You need a photo ID at the ticket counter and the security checkpoint. Metal
detectors will pick up things like coins in your pocket, watches, metal belt
buckles, etc., so take them off. Sometimes the detectors give false
readings, so don't be alarmed if they ask you to step aside and scan you
with a wand.

>I know you can't carry sharp items on
> board with you, but what if checking the bag they are in? What about
> mouthwash and the like? Can you check it, just not bring in carry on?


See the link above. Everything you mentioned is OK. (If the airport is at
a higher alert level they may search your luggage if the scan shows
something unidentifiable. They did that to me recently and it probably
didn't help that I had a spice container with Arabic writing - my luggage
arrived a day after I did.)

> Are you allowed to have a small bag in your lap or under your seat?
> For instance, a laptop.


Under the seat in front of you during take-off and landings; on your lap is
OK during the flight. (They're usually not uptight about this, IME)

>Where do you pick up your luggage? I have been
> able to ascertain that each airline has their own baggage claim area,
> but is that the baggage from all their flights or just certain ones.


Your flight number will be posted above the baggage caravel. If the flight
schedule is closely packed with arrivals there may be overlaps.

> Who do I ask for assistance inside the airport with these type of
> questions?


Anyone. Both airport personnel and travelers are used to questions.

> Here is a map of the airport I will be at for reference:
> http://www.mscaa.com/terminal.htm. Now, I know all airports don't have
> the same layout, but can anyone help me? Can you point me toward
> somewhere where I can find answers? I feel that if I can walk in there
> and know where I am going and what I am doing, then I will be more
> confident, which should keep the anxiety away. If I called the
> airline, would they answer all these questions for me?


Get to the airport early and look around. Lots of people wander around
while waiting for flights, particularly connectors; you won't stand out.
Airports are basically similar but many travelers need help; just ask any of
the airport personnel. For me, the most confusing part is figuring out how
to find the right concourse, then figuring out whether I need to take a
train or bus or just a moving sidewalk to get to the departure gate. I just
follow the crowd; alway's worked for me.

Don't fret. You'll enjoy it once you get into it, at least for the first
few times. After that it gets tedious.

Fig


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Old 03-02-2007, 03:30 AM
Jerim79
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On Mar 1, 1:59 pm, "Fig" <fig...@nospam.net> wrote:
> "Jerim79" <m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172769704.702962.229930@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > The only thing that really causes me anxiety
> > right now is not knowing how an airport operates. I know you check big
> > luggage, but I don't know where. The ticket counter?

>
> Yes. You check your luggage and get your boarding pass at the ticket
> counter. If you have printed your seat assignment/boarding pass in advance,
> look to see whether they have a special line for people who already have
> boarding passes; this usually expedites the baggage check-in process.
>
> > I don't know what
> > you can and can't carry on a plane, in terms of luggage.

>
> Seehttp://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibite...
> for the current list of what you can and cannot carry-on.
>
> > What is
> > security like? I know they make you take off your shoes, but anything
> > else that is not so obvious?

>
> You need a photo ID at the ticket counter and the security checkpoint. Metal
> detectors will pick up things like coins in your pocket, watches, metal belt
> buckles, etc., so take them off. Sometimes the detectors give false
> readings, so don't be alarmed if they ask you to step aside and scan you
> with a wand.
>
> >I know you can't carry sharp items on
> > board with you, but what if checking the bag they are in? What about
> > mouthwash and the like? Can you check it, just not bring in carry on?

>
> See the link above. Everything you mentioned is OK. (If the airport is at
> a higher alert level they may search your luggage if the scan shows
> something unidentifiable. They did that to me recently and it probably
> didn't help that I had a spice container with Arabic writing - my luggage
> arrived a day after I did.)
>
> > Are you allowed to have a small bag in your lap or under your seat?
> > For instance, a laptop.

>
> Under the seat in front of you during take-off and landings; on your lap is
> OK during the flight. (They're usually not uptight about this, IME)
>
> >Where do you pick up your luggage? I have been
> > able to ascertain that each airline has their own baggage claim area,
> > but is that the baggage from all their flights or just certain ones.

>
> Your flight number will be posted above the baggage caravel. If the flight
> schedule is closely packed with arrivals there may be overlaps.
>
> > Who do I ask for assistance inside the airport with these type of
> > questions?

>
> Anyone. Both airport personnel and travelers are used to questions.
>
> > Here is a map of the airport I will be at for reference:
> >http://www.mscaa.com/terminal.htm. Now, I know all airports don't have
> > the same layout, but can anyone help me? Can you point me toward
> > somewhere where I can find answers? I feel that if I can walk in there
> > and know where I am going and what I am doing, then I will be more
> > confident, which should keep the anxiety away. If I called the
> > airline, would they answer all these questions for me?

>
> Get to the airport early and look around. Lots of people wander around
> while waiting for flights, particularly connectors; you won't stand out.
> Airports are basically similar but many travelers need help; just ask any of
> the airport personnel. For me, the most confusing part is figuring out how
> to find the right concourse, then figuring out whether I need to take a
> train or bus or just a moving sidewalk to get to the departure gate. I just
> follow the crowd; alway's worked for me.
>
> Don't fret. You'll enjoy it once you get into it, at least for the first
> few times. After that it gets tedious.
>
> Fig


Thank you so much. I feel better now.

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Old 03-02-2007, 03:30 AM
Thomas F Tourette
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Jerim79 wrote:
> On Mar 1, 1:59 pm, "Fig" <fig...@nospam.net> wrote:
>> "Jerim79" <m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172769704.702962.229930@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> The only thing that really causes me anxiety
>>> right now is not knowing how an airport operates. I know you check big
>>> luggage, but I don't know where. The ticket counter?

>> Yes. You check your luggage and get your boarding pass at the ticket
>> counter. If you have printed your seat assignment/boarding pass in advance,
>> look to see whether they have a special line for people who already have
>> boarding passes; this usually expedites the baggage check-in process.
>>
>>> I don't know what
>>> you can and can't carry on a plane, in terms of luggage.

>> Seehttp://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibite...
>> for the current list of what you can and cannot carry-on.
>>
>>> What is
>>> security like? I know they make you take off your shoes, but anything
>>> else that is not so obvious?

>> You need a photo ID at the ticket counter and the security checkpoint. Metal
>> detectors will pick up things like coins in your pocket, watches, metal belt
>> buckles, etc., so take them off. Sometimes the detectors give false
>> readings, so don't be alarmed if they ask you to step aside and scan you
>> with a wand.
>>
>>> I know you can't carry sharp items on
>>> board with you, but what if checking the bag they are in? What about
>>> mouthwash and the like? Can you check it, just not bring in carry on?

>> See the link above. Everything you mentioned is OK. (If the airport is at
>> a higher alert level they may search your luggage if the scan shows
>> something unidentifiable. They did that to me recently and it probably
>> didn't help that I had a spice container with Arabic writing - my luggage
>> arrived a day after I did.)
>>
>>> Are you allowed to have a small bag in your lap or under your seat?
>>> For instance, a laptop.

>> Under the seat in front of you during take-off and landings; on your lap is
>> OK during the flight. (They're usually not uptight about this, IME)
>>
>>> Where do you pick up your luggage? I have been
>>> able to ascertain that each airline has their own baggage claim area,
>>> but is that the baggage from all their flights or just certain ones.

>> Your flight number will be posted above the baggage caravel. If the flight
>> schedule is closely packed with arrivals there may be overlaps.
>>
>>> Who do I ask for assistance inside the airport with these type of
>>> questions?

>> Anyone. Both airport personnel and travelers are used to questions.
>>
>>> Here is a map of the airport I will be at for reference:
>>> http://www.mscaa.com/terminal.htm. Now, I know all airports don't have
>>> the same layout, but can anyone help me? Can you point me toward
>>> somewhere where I can find answers? I feel that if I can walk in there
>>> and know where I am going and what I am doing, then I will be more
>>> confident, which should keep the anxiety away. If I called the
>>> airline, would they answer all these questions for me?

>> Get to the airport early and look around. Lots of people wander around
>> while waiting for flights, particularly connectors; you won't stand out.
>> Airports are basically similar but many travelers need help; just ask any of
>> the airport personnel. For me, the most confusing part is figuring out how
>> to find the right concourse, then figuring out whether I need to take a
>> train or bus or just a moving sidewalk to get to the departure gate. I just
>> follow the crowd; alway's worked for me.
>>
>> Don't fret. You'll enjoy it once you get into it, at least for the first
>> few times. After that it gets tedious.
>>
>> Fig

>
> Thank you so much. I feel better now.
>



Then don''t fly!

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Old 03-04-2007, 05:45 AM
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On Mar 1, 12:21?pm, "Jerim79" <m...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When I took my current job 6 months ago, they let me know I would be
> flying after hiring me. It was 6 months off in the future so I didn't
> worry about.


I am currently unemployed and have not applied to positions openly
stating that travel is required. I haven't flown since early 2001.
I'm afraid of being picked out and harassed because I'm nervous and
shake sometimes in crowded areas. Appearantly not making eye contact
now means you're a potential terrorist threat. I keep hearing about
all this behavioral profiling stuff and it sounds like airports are
now designed to hassel people like us. And I don't buy into the
Stalinist line of "if you're not doing anything wrong blah blah
blah." I do not trust people in authority positions or the system in
general.

Flying commercial has never been fun. Now it is a complete fiasco. I
liked flying in a single engined Cessna.

Chris

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Old 03-04-2007, 05:45 AM
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On Mar 1, 12:21?pm, "Jerim79" <m...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When I took my current job 6 months ago, they let me know I would be
> flying after hiring me. It was 6 months off in the future so I didn't
> worry about.


I am currently unemployed and have not applied to positions openly
stating that travel is required. I haven't flown since early 2001.
I'm afraid of being picked out and harassed because I'm nervous and
shake sometimes in crowded areas. Appearantly not making eye contact
now means you're a potential terrorist threat. I keep hearing about
all this behavioral profiling stuff and it sounds like airports are
now designed to hassel people like us. And I don't buy into the
Stalinist line of "if you're not doing anything wrong blah blah
blah." I do not trust people in authority positions or the system in
general.

Flying commercial has never been fun. Now it is a complete fiasco. I
liked flying in a single engined Cessna.

Chris

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Old 03-16-2007, 08:09 PM
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On Mar 1, 4:42 pm, Thomas F Tourette <t...@sorry.com> wrote:
> Jerim79 wrote:
> > On Mar 1, 1:59 pm, "Fig" <fig...@nospam.net> wrote:
> >> "Jerim79" <m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1172769704.702962.229930@j27g2000cwj.google groups.com...

>
> >>> The only thing that really causes me anxiety
> >>> right now is not knowing how an airport operates. I know you check big
> >>> luggage, but I don't know where. The ticket counter?
> >> Yes. You check your luggage and get your boarding pass at the ticket
> >> counter. If you have printed your seat assignment/boarding pass in advance,
> >> look to see whether they have a special line for people who already have
> >> boarding passes; this usually expedites the baggage check-in process.

>
> >>> I don't know what
> >>> you can and can't carry on a plane, in terms of luggage.
> >> Seehttp://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibite...
> >> for the current list of what you can and cannot carry-on.

>
> >>> What is
> >>> security like? I know they make you take off your shoes, but anything
> >>> else that is not so obvious?
> >> You need a photo ID at the ticket counter and the security checkpoint. Metal
> >> detectors will pick up things like coins in your pocket, watches, metal belt
> >> buckles, etc., so take them off. Sometimes the detectors give false
> >> readings, so don't be alarmed if they ask you to step aside and scan you
> >> with a wand.

>
> >>> I know you can't carry sharp items on
> >>> board with you, but what if checking the bag they are in? What about
> >>> mouthwash and the like? Can you check it, just not bring in carry on?
> >> See the link above. Everything you mentioned is OK. (If the airport is at
> >> a higher alert level they may search your luggage if the scan shows
> >> something unidentifiable. They did that to me recently and it probably
> >> didn't help that I had a spice container with Arabic writing - my luggage
> >> arrived a day after I did.)

>
> >>> Are you allowed to have a small bag in your lap or under your seat?
> >>> For instance, a laptop.
> >> Under the seat in front of you during take-off and landings; on your lap is
> >> OK during the flight. (They're usually not uptight about this, IME)

>
> >>> Where do you pick up your luggage? I have been
> >>> able to ascertain that each airline has their own baggage claim area,
> >>> but is that the baggage from all their flights or just certain ones.
> >> Your flight number will be posted above the baggage caravel. If the flight
> >> schedule is closely packed with arrivals there may be overlaps.

>
> >>> Who do I ask for assistance inside the airport with these type of
> >>> questions?
> >> Anyone. Both airport personnel and travelers are used to questions.

>
> >>> Here is a map of the airport I will be at for reference:
> >>>http://www.mscaa.com/terminal.htm. Now, I know all airports don't have
> >>> the same layout, but can anyone help me? Can you point me toward
> >>> somewhere where I can find answers? I feel that if I can walk in there
> >>> and know where I am going and what I am doing, then I will be more
> >>> confident, which should keep the anxiety away. If I called the
> >>> airline, would they answer all these questions for me?
> >> Get to the airport early and look around. Lots of people wander around
> >> while waiting for flights, particularly connectors; you won't stand out.
> >> Airports are basically similar but many travelers need help; just ask any of
> >> the airport personnel. For me, the most confusing part is figuring out how
> >> to find the right concourse, then figuring out whether I need to take a
> >> train or bus or just a moving sidewalk to get to the departure gate. I just
> >> follow the crowd; alway's worked for me.

>
> >> Don't fret. You'll enjoy it once you get into it, at least for the first
> >> few times. After that it gets tedious.

>
> >> Fig

>
> > Thank you so much. I feel better now.

>
> Then don''t fly!


Flying is required. I don't feel like losing my job.

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Old 03-18-2007, 10:29 PM
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"Chris" <kayak10ft@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 1, 12:21?pm, "Jerim79" <m...@hotmail.com> wrote:


> Flying commercial has never been fun.


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