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Old 08-16-2007, 08:47 AM
ChrisC
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I just can't get off the buggers. I wonder if I can use Zyban on my
cocktail of schizoaffective drugs. I really REALLY want to quit! I use
40mg of Citalopram, 10mg of Diazepam, 50mg of Sulpiride in the morning
and at night. Then 25mg Clozapine at night. Would I be able to take
Zyban as well to give up?

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Old 08-16-2007, 08:47 AM
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"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>I just can't get off the buggers. I wonder if I can use Zyban on my
> cocktail of schizoaffective drugs. I really REALLY want to quit! I use
> 40mg of Citalopram, 10mg of Diazepam, 50mg of Sulpiride in the morning
> and at night. Then 25mg Clozapine at night. Would I be able to take
> Zyban as well to give up?


I'm not sure I'd want to add anything to the set you are already taking! I
don't know of any specific contraindications, but this is definitely one to
discuss with your psychiatrist. I would be most concerned about the
Sulpiride and Clozapine acting on the same neurotransmitters (primarily
dopamine) as Zyban, but I really don't know what the combination would do.

Having said all that, if your psychiatrist finds no specific risk, then
perhaps it would be worth trying, given the certain risk of cigarettes to
your health.

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Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.

Find my book, Medicines for Mental Health, at
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:47 AM
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Try Chantix.

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Old 08-16-2007, 09:02 PM
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On Aug 16, 2:33 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I just can't get off the buggers. I wonder if I can use Zyban on my
> cocktail of schizoaffective drugs. I really REALLY want to quit! I use
> 40mg of Citalopram, 10mg of Diazepam, 50mg of Sulpiride in the morning
> and at night. Then 25mg Clozapine at night. Would I be able to take
> Zyban as well to give up?


I quit 9 years ago using the patch. Have you considered that?

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Old 08-16-2007, 09:02 PM
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Hello Chris

I gave up a year and a half ago and I do understand its very difficult
to do so I can sympathize. The first thing to aid you giving up if
your still smoking as you read this is cutting down the easy way. Its
all about tricking your mind in thinking your smoking more than you
are....Here's a tip.....if you roll your own or if you have tailor
made it doesn't matter.....smoke only half the ciggy and then chip it
out and wait 2 minutes before finishing it off. Do this during the day
and you will notice the body thinks its getting twice as many ciggys
and wont desire so much thus cutting down naturally. This means your
20 a day could drop to 10 in weeks. One down to 10 a day the craving
will lessen a little and any less craving always helps. I tried this
after being told a truth that helped a great deal......The truth is
you only enjoy and need the first few drags of a ciggy and the rest of
it you smoke as a habit. Only having the bit you need to kill the
craving is the way to cut down. After you have dropped from 20+ a day
to low double figures I can recommend trying the stop smoking patches
and also back them up with the sweet things.....nicorette do lozenges
in difference strengths and the medium ones which give you 1 mg of
nicotine are fantastic. They give just enough to stop the mind numbing
and over powering urge to do the smoking thing. One of those with the
patches and the craving will bugger off for a short while.....or at
least long enough for you to get your composure back. I don't know if
any of this will help but I have tobacco and half corona cigars beside
my bed as I type and not once have I gone back to have a ciggy however
tempted due to this method. Give it a go and if it doesn't work at
least you tried. Cutting down and then giving up does make things
easier.

(((-(((Chris)))-))).

(((Mellow Gentle Squsihes))) to you and all whom you love



On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:33:01 -0700, ChrisC <chrispche@googlemail.com>
wrote:

>I just can't get off the buggers. I wonder if I can use Zyban on my
>cocktail of schizoaffective drugs. I really REALLY want to quit! I use
>40mg of Citalopram, 10mg of Diazepam, 50mg of Sulpiride in the morning
>and at night. Then 25mg Clozapine at night. Would I be able to take
>Zyban as well to give up?

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Old 08-17-2007, 07:55 PM
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On 16 Aug, 07:33, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I just can't get off the buggers. I wonder if I can use Zyban on my
> cocktail of schizoaffective drugs. I really REALLY want to quit! I use
> 40mg of Citalopram, 10mg of Diazepam, 50mg of Sulpiride in the morning
> and at night. Then 25mg Clozapine at night. Would I be able to take
> Zyban as well to give up?


Ask your Doctor for Champix. It works by stopping nicotine passing
the blood brain barrier and weans you off them. And according to my
research there arent any interactions with anti-depressants and NICE
have ok'ed it.

Be gentle on yourselves

Simon

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Old 08-18-2007, 08:16 AM
Steve O
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I quit with the patch as well...it's a good adjunct to your willpower. I'm
sure you've heard before but there is no magic pill for quitting smoking.
It's tough but once you start it gets easier as you go. Remember to treat
yourself as you go...ie have a chocolate bar, get a massage etc etc
etc....See quitting as one of the best accomplishments in your life. Because
all in all it will be. Ultimately, you have to want to see yourself as a
non-smoker. Good luck.
"marcia" <design1@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 16, 2:33 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> I just can't get off the buggers. I wonder if I can use Zyban on my
>> cocktail of schizoaffective drugs. I really REALLY want to quit! I use
>> 40mg of Citalopram, 10mg of Diazepam, 50mg of Sulpiride in the morning
>> and at night. Then 25mg Clozapine at night. Would I be able to take
>> Zyban as well to give up?

>
> I quit 9 years ago using the patch. Have you considered that?
>


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Old 08-22-2007, 06:19 AM
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On Aug 16, 1:33?am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I just can't get off the buggers. I wonder if I can use Zyban on my
> cocktail of schizoaffective drugs. I really REALLY want to quit! I use
> 40mg of Citalopram, 10mg of Diazepam, 50mg of Sulpiride in the morning
> and at night. Then 25mg Clozapine at night. Would I be able to take
> Zyban as well to give up?


zyban's just cleverly disguised welbutrin, an antidepressant.
or is welbutrin cleverly disguised zyban, a nicotine deterant?

try takin' one of each and lemme know.

> I really REALLY want to quit! I use
> 40mg of Citalopram,


i just looked that up. send me some, k? i have vertigo. i dunno if
i have vertigo, but i have no balance, people won't walk next to me or
i'll navigate 'em right of tha sidewalk (or'ah bridge if it's an
especially bad day) and everyone around me seems to move stuff around
so i won't destoy stuff, they move stuff outta my way when i'm walkin'
to'ah destination so's i don't leave'ah path of destruction and alotta
folks think i'm drunk cuz i trip over nothin'. amazingly, nobody
believes me when i AM drunk ! i almost gotta piss test to convince
'em. do i have vertigo, am i just clumsy, or should i drink more?

you should hook me up with that citalopram, dude. it's only
righteous.

> 10mg of Diazepam,


i know what that is.

> 50mg of Sulpiride in the morning


that's tha same stuff as that other stuff, that vertigo stuff.
exactly tha same.... except it's produced in lactating women. (now
you could go places with that'n if yer'ah kinky bastid.)

> and at night. Then 25mg Clozapine at night.


that does tha same thing as that diazapam stuff.

you ain't gotta cocktail of schizophrenic drugs, unless yer cocktails
have one ingredient. them two vertigo drugs are tha same, so yer
basically takin one, and the other two are for anxiety or panic, so
yer basically tkin' one, and i wonder why they're doin' that?

i'm thinkin'i since yer already nutty, what kinda evil wench would
stack yer medication cards ta make ya even nuttier. hell... i'm
already nuttier than i was before i read about yer meds. that's like
givin' kid a pair of shoes and callin' one a horse and the other
one'ah taco and tellin' tha kid to wear the horse and the taco, but at
different intervals.

ok, it's official. i'm now completely insane.

> Would I be able to take
> Zyban as well to give up?


no way ! but i'm absolutely positive that the welbutrin is the way ta
go.

come ta think of it, smokin' could be tha only thing that has any
consistency in your life, at least a cigarette's a cigarette ! i vote
ta keep smokin' and get off them two matchin' schizo drugs and opt for
one, if any, and same with the anxiety stuff.... take one. or
whatever i'm tryin' ta say, do that.

then drive yer doc nutz, replace his family pic with one of another
family when he ain't lookin, do that everytime ya visit him, but with
another family, maybe throw an interracial one in, put his obituary in
tha paper and watch tha condolences and flowers pour in, get yer
buddies ta help ya turn his car upside down durin' his work day,
replace his kleenex box with one that's all flowery, eat all his candy
during a session and when he ain't lookin', slowly fill it back up,
and leave a huge stack of wrappers from tha ones ya ate beside it,
replace his Montblanc pen with'ah bic and then getta two way mirror,
hold it up in front of him and tell him blow by blow every move he's
makin'. if that don't work, replace his armani jacket that's probly
is slung over his mega-chair with'ah a blue WalMart vest. get ahold
of his script pad and write "apples" on it. on the script directly
underneath it, write "how do ya like THEM?"

....then send him picture postcards from the edge when he's in tha
psych ward.

sign em "big brother."

oh, i fergot all about that smokin' gig. yeah, take tha zyban. ya
won't quit smokin', cigarettes'll just taste like shit.

~tanya





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Old 08-22-2007, 06:19 AM
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~tanya schreef:

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>> and at night. Then 25mg Clozapine at night.

>
> that does tha same thing as that diazapam stuff.



No, it doesn't. You're confusing clozapine which is an *atypical
antipsychotic* (most common brand name in US is Leponex, I believe) with
clonazepam (Klonopin) which is a benzodiazepine like diazepam (aka Valium).

Philip (luv' ya anyway)





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Old 08-22-2007, 06:19 AM
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On Aug 21, 9:02?pm, Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:

> > that does tha same thing as that diazapam stuff.

>
> No, it doesn't. You're confusing clozapine which is an *atypical
> antipsychotic* (most common brand name in US is Leponex, I believe) with
> clonazepam (Klonopin) which is a benzodiazepine like diazepam (aka Valium).


i stand corrected, how'd you know i thought that?

cuz i sure did.

~tanya (luv ya more !)

i want me some'ah them anti-psychotics and see'f they make me normal.

i wanna be'ah soccer mom !

i took deparkote and neurontin and zyprex.... (sumthin') and seroquel
and seroquon or sumthin and every bipolar med known ta man and i ain't
ever felt worse in my life than when i took a 25mg seroquel, he wanted
to get me to 300 mgs. i told him i wanted ta get him on'ah slow boat
ta china. i felt like i was in another realm and everything was
surreal and i could see me as me, like "me" was another
person. ::shivers::

....and i took a thorazine pill once ta see'f i'd getta buzz... but
nuttin'. nada. zilch. goose-egg. zero. (maybe i should'ah taken
like 5 and knocked 'em back with'ah couplah brewskis.)

i'm too chicken ta do that stuff now.

gettin' old's counterproductive for my particular lifestyle, i think i
should'ah been exempt.

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Old 08-23-2007, 01:35 AM
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~tanya schreef:

>
> i want me some'ah them anti-psychotics and see'f they make me normal.
>


>
> i took deparkote and neurontin and zyprex.... (sumthin') and seroquel
> and seroquon or sumthin and every bipolar med known ta man and i ain't
> ever felt worse in my life than when i took a 25mg seroquel, he wanted
> to get me to 300 mgs. i told him i wanted ta get him on'ah slow boat
> ta china. i felt like i was in another realm and everything was
> surreal and i could see me as me, like "me" was another
> person. ::shivers::



Hehe. Zyprexa and Seroquel *are* antipsychotics so you already know what
they do for you... maybe you're not pychotic (just crazy ;-)
>


> ...and i took a thorazine pill once ta see'f i'd getta buzz... but
> nuttin'. nada. zilch. goose-egg. zero. (maybe i should'ah taken
> like 5 and knocked 'em back with'ah couplah brewskis.)
>
> i'm too chicken ta do that stuff now.



So am I. Way back in the sixties I dropped anything and everything,
often without having the faintest idea what it was but now I'm almost
scared to take Tylenol.
>
>


> gettin' old's counterproductive for my particular lifestyle, i think i
> should'ah been exempt.



But you are!


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