I've had enough!

On 19 Apr, 02:25, Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:
> Gigglz schreef:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT), Joe.P.Mann...@googlemail.com
> > wrote:
>
> >> Yeah, Bear I ordered this tape program yesterday:http://www.stresscenter.com/
> >> looks a bit cheesy but it looks legit...you know what they say:
> >> nothing ventured nothing gained!
>
> >> Thanks for the well wishes guys, Gigglz, Bear and Vickie in
> >> particular!
>
> >> Also for those who may want to IM me on AIM my screenname is:
> >> No1MaxPayneFan feel free to contact me anytime, I work from my
> >> computer anyway.
>
> > i hope you benefit from your tape program! let us know.
>
> > also let us know how your appointment goes :-)
>
> > gigglz
>
> This is Lucinda Bassett's program which is really watered down CBT and
> not worth the $$ she makes you pay. Still I've met people who benefited
> from it.
> There are better self-help manuals (books) like those by Burns,
> Edelstein, Bourne etc.
> But nothing beats a good real live CB- or REB-therapist.
>
> Philip
>
>

SHHHHH! Keep quiet! I downloaded it....don't make me have to get out
the ball-gag again!

-Joe

Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com schreef:
> On 19 Apr, 02:33, Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:
>> Joe.P.Mann...@googlemail.com schreef:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Tanya, that has to be the funniest reply I have ever had on the
>>> internet ever...and I've been online since the good old days of the
>>> dial-up BBS...
>>> Well Tanya you have single-handedly reinstated my faith in humor and
>>> wit on the world wide web, kudos indeed! Are you fond of meth? Or did
>>> you just shoot espresso right into your jugular? In any case please
>>> try to calm down before you herneate an ulcer or something gruesome
>>> like that!
>>> Have no fear of driving me insane as you appear to share my bizarre
>>> sense of humor to a T, and don't even mention doctors and addiction. 5
>>> years on the Oxycontin rollercoaster have taught me a rare kind of
>>> ironic justice.
>>> Are familiar with the writings of William S. Burroughs?
>>> -Joe
>> Tanya's "automatic" writing does have something in common with B's at
>> times. But Tanya's so very much more humorous. And she is a *good*
>> person to boot. One of a kind (that's just as well, methinks, but this one
>> we truly *love*, I do anyway).
>>
>> Philip
>>
>>
>
> We shall start a cult on her behalf at once!
>
> -Joe


Great idea. Now that that Texas polygamy cult has been arrested it's
time for a new one.

P.

Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com schreef:
> On 19 Apr, 02:25, Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:
>> Gigglz schreef:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT), Joe.P.Mann...@googlemail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yeah, Bear I ordered this tape program yesterday:http://www.stresscenter.com/
>>>> looks a bit cheesy but it looks legit...you know what they say:
>>>> nothing ventured nothing gained!
>>>> Thanks for the well wishes guys, Gigglz, Bear and Vickie in
>>>> particular!
>>>> Also for those who may want to IM me on AIM my screenname is:
>>>> No1MaxPayneFan feel free to contact me anytime, I work from my
>>>> computer anyway.
>>> i hope you benefit from your tape program! let us know.
>>> also let us know how your appointment goes :-)
>>> gigglz
>> This is Lucinda Bassett's program which is really watered down CBT and
>> not worth the $$ she makes you pay. Still I've met people who benefited
>> from it.
>> There are better self-help manuals (books) like those by Burns,
>> Edelstein, Bourne etc.
>> But nothing beats a good real live CB- or REB-therapist.
>>
>> Philip
>>
>>
>
> SHHHHH! Keep quiet! I downloaded it....don't make me have to get out
> the ball-gag again!
>
> -Joe


Yes, you're right, I shouldn't have posted that message, sorry about
that. (It's a fantastic program which will cure you in no time ;-)

P.

you haven't seen the best of tanya yet, joe :-)
if you liked that...just hang around for more!

hehe

gigglz



On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:17:11 -0700 (PDT), Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com
wrote:

>Tanya, that has to be the funniest reply I have ever had on the
>internet ever...and I've been online since the good old days of the
>dial-up BBS...
>
>Well Tanya you have single-handedly reinstated my faith in humor and
>wit on the world wide web, kudos indeed! Are you fond of meth? Or did
>you just shoot espresso right into your jugular? In any case please
>try to calm down before you herneate an ulcer or something gruesome
>like that!
>
>Have no fear of driving me insane as you appear to share my bizarre
>sense of humor to a T, and don't even mention doctors and addiction. 5
>years on the Oxycontin rollercoaster have taught me a rare kind of
>ironic justice.
>
>Are familiar with the writings of William S. Burroughs?
>
>-Joe
>
>

"Philip Peters" <philip@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:48094bb2$0$14342$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com schreef:
>> Tanya, that has to be the funniest reply I have ever had on the
>> internet ever...and I've been online since the good old days of the
>> dial-up BBS...
>>
>> Well Tanya you have single-handedly reinstated my faith in humor and
>> wit on the world wide web, kudos indeed! Are you fond of meth? Or did
>> you just shoot espresso right into your jugular? In any case please
>> try to calm down before you herneate an ulcer or something gruesome
>> like that!
>>
>> Have no fear of driving me insane as you appear to share my bizarre
>> sense of humor to a T, and don't even mention doctors and addiction. 5
>> years on the Oxycontin rollercoaster have taught me a rare kind of
>> ironic justice.
>>
>> Are familiar with the writings of William S. Burroughs?
>>
>> -Joe
>
>
> Tanya's "automatic" writing does have something in common with B's at
> times. But Tanya's so very much more humorous. And she is a *good* person
> to boot. One of a kind (that's just as well, methinks, but this one
> we truly *love*, I do anyway).


What Philip said!!

--

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie <---- Tanya fan!!
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln

>
> Philip
>>

On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:34:46 +0200, Philip Peters
<philip@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:

>Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com schreef:
>> On 19 Apr, 02:33, Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:
>>> Joe.P.Mann...@googlemail.com schreef:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tanya, that has to be the funniest reply I have ever had on the
>>>> internet ever...and I've been online since the good old days of the
>>>> dial-up BBS...
>>>> Well Tanya you have single-handedly reinstated my faith in humor and
>>>> wit on the world wide web, kudos indeed! Are you fond of meth? Or did
>>>> you just shoot espresso right into your jugular? In any case please
>>>> try to calm down before you herneate an ulcer or something gruesome
>>>> like that!
>>>> Have no fear of driving me insane as you appear to share my bizarre
>>>> sense of humor to a T, and don't even mention doctors and addiction. 5
>>>> years on the Oxycontin rollercoaster have taught me a rare kind of
>>>> ironic justice.
>>>> Are familiar with the writings of William S. Burroughs?
>>>> -Joe
>>> Tanya's "automatic" writing does have something in common with B's at
>>> times. But Tanya's so very much more humorous. And she is a *good*
>>> person to boot. One of a kind (that's just as well, methinks, but this one
>>> we truly *love*, I do anyway).
>>>
>>> Philip
>>>
>>>
>>
>> We shall start a cult on her behalf at once!
>>
>> -Joe
>
>
>Great idea. Now that that Texas polygamy cult has been arrested it's
>time for a new one.
>
>P.

yeah, how about a NICE cult for a change?
i've been following that on CNN. scary stuff.
those poor kids :-(

gigglz

Philip Peters, wrote:

Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, Bear I ordered this tape program yesterday: http://www.stresscenter.com/
>>> looks a bit cheesy but it looks legit...you know what they say:
>>> nothing ventured nothing gained!

>This is Lucinda Bassett's program which is really watered down CBT and
>not worth the $$ she makes you pay. Still I've met people who benefited
>from it.
>There are better self-help manuals (books) like those by Burns,
>Edelstein, Bourne etc.
>But nothing beats a good real live CB- or REB-therapist.

I don't want to discourage anyone who's already forked out the dough. I bought
her program when it was on 8 track

Reminds me:
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, "Where's the self-help section?"
She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

Philip Peters, wrote:
>
>Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com schreef:
>> On 19 Apr, 02:25, Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:
>>> Gigglz schreef:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT), Joe.P.Mann...@googlemail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>Yeah, Bear I ordered this tape program yesterday:http://www.stresscenter.com/
>>>>> looks a bit cheesy but it looks legit...you know what they say:
>>>>> nothing ventured nothing gained!
>>>>> Thanks for the well wishes guys, Gigglz, Bear and Vickie in
>>>>> particular!
>>>>> Also for those who may want to IM me on AIM my screenname is:
>>>>> No1MaxPayneFan feel free to contact me anytime, I work from my
>>>>> computer anyway.
>>>> i hope you benefit from your tape program! let us know.
>>>> also let us know how your appointment goes :-)
>>>> gigglz
>>> This is Lucinda Bassett's program which is really watered down CBT and
>>> not worth the $$ she makes you pay. Still I've met people who benefited
>>> from it.
>>> There are better self-help manuals (books) like those by Burns,
>>> Edelstein, Bourne etc.
>>> But nothing beats a good real live CB- or REB-therapist.
>>>
>>> Philip
>>>
>>>
>>
>> SHHHHH! Keep quiet! I downloaded it....don't make me have to get out
>> the ball-gag again!
>>
>> -Joe
>
>
>Yes, you're right, I shouldn't have posted that message, sorry about
>that.

You just suck.

(It's a fantastic program which will cure you in no time ;-)

Just how long is 'no time?' No, just how short is 'no time?'

E...

> I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, "Where's the self-help section?"
> She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
>

Wisdom without boundaries hehe

Bear schreef:
> Philip Peters, wrote:
>> Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com schreef:
>>> On 19 Apr, 02:25, Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:
>>>> Gigglz schreef:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT), Joe.P.Mann...@googlemail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Yeah, Bear I ordered this tape program yesterday:http://www.stresscenter.com/
>>>>>> looks a bit cheesy but it looks legit...you know what they say:
>>>>>> nothing ventured nothing gained!
>>>>>> Thanks for the well wishes guys, Gigglz, Bear and Vickie in
>>>>>> particular!
>>>>>> Also for those who may want to IM me on AIM my screenname is:
>>>>>> No1MaxPayneFan feel free to contact me anytime, I work from my
>>>>>> computer anyway.
>>>>> i hope you benefit from your tape program! let us know.
>>>>> also let us know how your appointment goes :-)
>>>>> gigglz
>>>> This is Lucinda Bassett's program which is really watered down CBT and
>>>> not worth the $$ she makes you pay. Still I've met people who benefited
>>>> from it.
>>>> There are better self-help manuals (books) like those by Burns,
>>>> Edelstein, Bourne etc.
>>>> But nothing beats a good real live CB- or REB-therapist.
>>>>
>>>> Philip
>>>>
>>>>
>>> SHHHHH! Keep quiet! I downloaded it....don't make me have to get out
>>> the ball-gag again!
>>>
>>> -Joe
>>
>> Yes, you're right, I shouldn't have posted that message, sorry about
>> that.
>
> You just suck.


I see you've been practicing Ellis' *Unconditional Other Acceptance*.

>
> (It's a fantastic program which will cure you in no time ;-)
>
> Just how long is 'no time?' No, just how short is 'no time?'


Please don't get all philosophical on me, I'm just a simple rural
guy from the Dutch jungle.

P.

Philip Peters, wrote:

>Please don't get all philosophical on me, I'm just a simple rural
>guy from the Dutch jungle.

Ah yes, in the back/cheap seats.

When you’re born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you’re born in
America, you get a front-row seat.

On 20 Apr, 04:09, Bear <Bear993...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> When you’re born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you’re born in
> America, you get a front-row seat.

That's a great line. Is it yours? Can I quote it?

-Joe

On 20 Apr, 04:09, Bear <Bear993...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> When you’re born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you’re born in
> America, you get a front-row seat.

That's a great line. Is it yours? Can I quote it?

-Joe

Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com, wrote:
>
>On 20 Apr, 04:09, Bear <Bear993...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> When you=92re born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you=92re born =
>in
>> America, you get a front-row seat.
>
>That's a great line. Is it yours? Can I quote it?

George Carlin stole it from me......

Bear schreef:
> Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com, wrote:
>> On 20 Apr, 04:09, Bear <Bear993...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> When you=92re born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you=92re born =
>> in
>>> America, you get a front-row seat.
>> That's a great line. Is it yours? Can I quote it?
>
> George Carlin stole it from me......
>
Well now don't get me started E !!!!!!

>
> Please don't get all philosophical on me, I'm just a simple rural
> guy from the Dutch jungle.
>
> P.
>

Yup I can vow for that Nothing more nothing less
What you see is what you get. ( that can be hard but I am loyal to my
friends )

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:51:37 +0200, Anna <kojech@planet.nl> wrote:

>
>>
>> Please don't get all philosophical on me, I'm just a simple rural
>> guy from the Dutch jungle.
>>
>> P.
>>
>
>Yup I can vow for that Nothing more nothing less
>What you see is what you get. ( that can be hard but I am loyal to my
>friends )

you are very loyal, queen anna :-D

hugs,
gigglz

On 20 Apr, 20:04, Gigglz <Frek...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:51:37 +0200, Anna <koj...@planet.nl> wrote:
>
> >> Please don't get all philosophical on me, I'm just a simple rural
> >> guy from the Dutch jungle.
>
> >> P.
>
> >Yup I can vow for that Nothing more nothing less
> >What you see is what you get. ( that can be hard but I am loyal to my
> >friends )
>
> you are very loyal, queen anna :-D
>
> hugs,
> gigglz

Gigglz do you ever post in the moderated group? Anna's there all the
time. I aint' never seen you there is all

-Joe

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:02:56 -0700 (PDT), Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com
wrote:

>On 20 Apr, 20:04, Gigglz <Frek...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:51:37 +0200, Anna <koj...@planet.nl> wrote:
>>
>> >> Please don't get all philosophical on me, I'm just a simple rural
>> >> guy from the Dutch jungle.
>>
>> >> P.
>>
>> >Yup I can vow for that Nothing more nothing less
>> >What you see is what you get. ( that can be hard but I am loyal to my
>> >friends )
>>
>> you are very loyal, queen anna :-D
>>
>> hugs,
>> gigglz
>
>Gigglz do you ever post in the moderated group? Anna's there all the
>time. I aint' never seen you there is all
>
>-Joe

joe, you probably don't want to HEAR that story! if you hear it from
me, it will be totally different than if you hear it from them.
if you really KNOW me, you would know that what i'm telling you is the
truth. there are a few of the moderators that have a "god complex".
they put me thru the hell of my life, and now i'm glad to be rid of
them forever. just be aware, they will watch you posting in here.
they obsessively read this newsgroup. there is some major paranoia.
you can email me any time if you want to hear the truth.
ANNA is a wonderful person. she makes her own mind up about people,
unlike a few of them. i have many friends from that group that know
me, and love me, and stood by me and they still write to me.

gigglz

Just checking my new newsreader....

On 25 Apr, 14:31, Joe Mannion <Joe.P.Mann...@Gmail.com> wrote:
> Just checking my new newsreader....

Yesssss it worked no more gooogle :-D I'm freeeeeee!

YEAAAAAA! Nothing like being a free man ;-) Nanny
<Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1865c34a-4b29-4ac1-a45c-71f51f67942a@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 25 Apr, 14:31, Joe Mannion <Joe.P.Mann...@Gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just checking my new newsreader....
>
> Yesssss it worked no more gooogle :-D I'm freeeeeee!
>

On 25 Apr 2008 13:31:08 GMT, Joe Mannion <Joe.P.Mannion@Gmail.com>
wrote:

>Just checking my new newsreader....

i seeeeeeeeeee you ;-)

giggz

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:32:15 -0700 (PDT), Joe.P.Mannion@googlemail.com
wrote:

>On 25 Apr, 14:31, Joe Mannion <Joe.P.Mann...@Gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just checking my new newsreader....
>
>Yesssss it worked no more gooogle :-D I'm freeeeeee!

yae!

On Apr 18, 8:17�pm, Joe.P.Mann...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Tanya, that has to be the funniest reply I have ever had on the
> internet ever...and I've been online since the good old days of the
> dial-up BBS...

well thankya, Joe ! (generally, the only person that finds me funny
is me. so BONUS !!!!)

> Well Tanya you have single-handedly reinstated my faith in humor and
> wit on the world wide web, kudos indeed!

awwwwwww.. yer too kind !

> Are you fond of meth?

i snorted it as'ah kid (crank) a couplah times and recently tried it
cuz i got outta tha tat/piercing business (almost) at turned 50 and
swore i try crack'n meth should i do either or both. didn't really
think either would come ta fruition or at least those possibilities
seemed eons away... but BAM !

... and found it not only a ridiculously long means to an end, and an
end that made me ::throw my hands:: in frustration, cuz i sure didn't
get a buzz. (it DID show me what folks are made of though and lost
tons'ah respect for tha behavior of my "friends")... cuz when that
shit hits tha foil or pipe, dependin' on tha "flavah", i guess...folks
get (in my experience) less than rational and way less than humane.

HATED IT.

> Or did
> you just shoot espresso right into your jugular?

now i gotta new mission in life. i guess i'll gotta walk in
Starbuck's one more time, even though i swore that "see'n be seen"
arena off years ago. experimentation supercedes tha promise and
promises are meant ta be broken.

(stay tuned, results ta come.)

> In any case please
> try to calm down before you herneate an ulcer or something gruesome
> like that!

iyam calm. i swear. you'll know when i'm manic... i'll be callin' ya
up for bail money.

i've never seen'ah ulcer but i busted a tat artist's babyfood jar
with'ah eyeball in it once and he got real mad (specially when it went
rollin' down'ah sidewalk drain and got dirt'n crap all over it but i
washed 'em)... and i had my own armadillo balls in my piercing room
and he threatened ta smash'em with'ah ball-peen hammer, so i gave him
my balls but he was never satisfied after that.

(he STILL ain't over that damned eyeball.)

now i wanna ulcer ta add ta my collection (which has expanded since
them good ole days and i'm sure everyone on this forum is sick'ah that
eyeball story... but tuff.)

> Have no fear of driving me insane as you appear to share my bizarre
> sense of humor to a T,

does that mean we can marry?

> and don't even mention doctors and addiction. 5
> years on the Oxycontin rollercoaster have taught me a rare kind of
> ironic justice.

my hydrocodone addiction didn't get ta be'ah rollercoaster, i was told
(by my employees) that i was addicted (couldn't figger that'n out by
muhself) and stopped immediately. funny story, tha whole thang, but
36 days on tha couch while i was figgerin' outta way ta hire my own
hit-man was tha end result.

i pinched'ah nerve in muh neck 3 weeks later at'ah huge music festival
piercing heads-down and had ta sans pain killers. since i always
shared with'em, they were kinda poutin'. (a kinda poetic justice.)

> Are familiar with the writings of William S. Burroughs?

i have a difficult time reading, but i pulled up'ah couplah
youtube.com thingies and he's quite tha racontueur... i'm gonna look
at'ah few more, he makes me think (which could be dangerous) and go
"wow, he's witty in'ah "postal" sorta way."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1Pfd3OtPQoA..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7f_tjUFa0RA

...or just stick "youtube.com" in yer toolbar, click "video" and enter
William S. Burroughs. there's'ah lotta interestin' stuff.

and thank you again, Joe. i think i've fallen madly in love with you,
i don't waste time.

(meet me at tha Clock Tower at midnight.)

..........----------===========vaROOOOOOOOOOOOM !

i do hope things are workin' out for you, please let me in on tha
comin's and goin's of yer life, i'm truly interested. (and i swear i
won't touch yer balls and drop 'em in'ah drain........ UNLESS IT'S A
PURE, UNADULTERATED ACCIDENT !!!!) ...and i can be trusted.

XOXOXOXxoxoxoxOXXOXOxoxoxo

~tanya <<smile>>

On Apr 16, 10:34�pm, "nanny" <gloria...@woh.rr.com> wrote:

> I wasn't working with a therapist and perhaps I should have. �Medicine
> worked so well that I just didn't pursue any other option at the time.

perzactly ! if it ain't broke, don't fix it and who tha FUCK can even
BEGIN to deal with panic disorder with that CBT crap?

a condition that manifests itself physically and in no uncertain terms
to be treated by behavioral therapy of ANY KIND?

(tell that to'ah gal with breast cancer or'ah dude with'ah gunshot
wound that wouldn't gimme all his xanax.)

xoxoxo

~t

On Apr 18, 8:33�pm, Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:

> Tanya's "automatic" writing does have something in common with B's at
> times. But Tanya's so very much more humorous. And she is a *good*
> person to boot. One of a kind (that's just as well, methinks, but this one
> we truly *love*, I do anyway).

...and i love you MORE !

<<<<kissez>>>>

(been'ah harsh few months, i'll be back to muh ole self in due time.)

and thank you, Philip... ya keep me grounded, i miss ya tons, as well.

xoxoxoxo

~t

On Apr 18, 9:47�pm, Joe.P.Mann...@googlemail.com wrote:

> We shall start a cult on her behalf at once!

yes, muh chile.

"Belle'sDiscoBalls'n Spandex"

(can we keep janet reno outta this? she scares me.)

ahhhhmmmmmmmm.

<<<<hallerluyer>>>>

On Apr 19, 8:16�am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:

> What Philip said!!

ya so goooooooooofy... i luz ya tons !


> � � � �Laurie � � <---- �Tanya fan!! �

~tanya <----Laurie groupie!!

::kissez::

On Apr 18, 8:47�am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:

> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooOooo-HOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOO!!
>
> Tanya is in de house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FINALLY !

i climbed this pole ta try'n fix muh fucked up cable company's multi-
week screw-ups'n (cuz i'm tired'ah waitin' 1-3 days for phone/internet
service so i did tha ole do-it-yerself rig job) and damned if i
didn't get caught'n have ta go to da 5.0 station for questionin'...
got back home, had locked muh keys inside.

... and damned if tha nice cop didn't say "no problem, ya ain't gotta
wrap yer legs around a nasty pole ta get thissun taken care of,
eh?..."

i said "are those yer wife's words ta live by?"

he said "ya got lucky, it's a good time ta shut up."

i said "are those yer wife's words that YOU live by?"

he looked at me like "ya ain't worth muh time"....

...and it took me 2 hours ta get in, but dammit, i'm good.

(i called muh Mom ta bring me'ah spare key... took me 1.5 hours ta
think'ah that,)

... but i'm in, my cable's on and i'm.... IN DA HOUSE !

heheeeeeee...

~t (yo)

On Apr 15, 2:02�pm, Vickie <lilliputianbizz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 9:30�pm, Joe.P.Mann...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > OK, first I want to apologize in advance for bringing you down--
> > because it will bring you down...
>
> > OK. Way back last October I started having panic attacks (to be honest
> > I think the word panic is a major understatement) pounding heart,
> > sweat, shaking, fear of imminent death; you know the drill. I would
> > have them every two weeks or so and would shrug them off as "my past
> > drug use coming back to haunt me". After a while (mid November I
> > recall) they started to get worse. Totally insane fear...my heart beat
> > was so fast and the chest pains were so bad that I called 999 (that is
> > EMS or 911 for all you yanks).
>
> > I got told there and then that I was having these things called panic
> > attacks. OK I said to the Doc "what can we do", he told me that he
> > would write a script for propranalol (Beta blocker) and send me off
> > for an ECG. Fine, I thought to myself. The beta blockers stopped my
> > heart racing but the adrenaline pumping and all the other symptoms
> > remained. What else can I do? The doctor gave me a low dose of Valium
> > (2 mg).
>
> > Fast-forward two weeks in early December. The benzos worked in the
> > short term totally alleviating my symptoms. But as I went back to get
> > a repeat script I was denied. Doc said no more...That I could get
> > hooked. I can understand this because I know how some drugs can get a
> > grip on you, I myself was hooked on heroin for 6 years. What pissed me
> > of was his reply to one simple question: what other things can we try?
>
> > His reply?
>
> > Hold on strap yourselves is for this one because it will anger you so
> > much you may feel the need to hit something...
>
> > "There is not much else we can do...just try not to panic and I'll see
> > you in 6 months..."
>
> > Errrrg....
>
> > As Christmas aproached my behavior and habits started to get weird...I
> > started drinking...not leaving the house, checking my pulse every
> > minute or so. I started having daily panic attacks...my world got
> > smaller and smaller...
> > Christmas was a disaster, by that time I was necking a bottle of
> > whiskey a day...On boxing day I attempted suicide...I will not go into
> > details other than to say it involved a sharp blade. Anyhow, I was
> > taken away by the police and evaluated by a psycho Doc who said that I
> > was "fine" and let me out the next day...
>
> > Ladies and Gents this year has not started as well as I had hoped and
> > it is spiraling out of control. I try to take my mind off it but I
> > constantly worry about my next attack. I have stopped drinking...I
> > have been back to the Doc's, who upped my dose of propranolol (40 mg
> > twice daily).
>
> > I know that pills are not the answer, but the mental health services
> > in this country are overstretched and it is impossible to get an
> > appointment.
>
> > What can I do?
>
> > I am at what some may call my "wits end"
>
> > Thank you for reading and I hope that you can offer some advice.
>
> > Tapadh leat,
>
> > Slainte,
>
> > (thats Irish for thank you and take care)
>
> > -Joe
>
> That sucks big time Joe.
>
> I honestly don't know how you can get through this without the proper
> meds. �I mean you *will* get through it, but the road is going to be
> so tough, until you get them.
>
> Before diagnosed I barely made it out the door. �I can understand how
> desperate you feel.
>
> I don't know anything about Ireland's health system. �Is there a
> waiting list that you can at least put your name on? �Then you can
> hold tight to that date.
>
> In the meantime, read up on your disorder. �Look for techniques totry
> to help you ride through the attacks. �Examples would be deep
> breathing, walking, distraction.
>
> I am not sure if this is so, and I have never had the where-with-all
> to time myself, but I have heard that acute panic attacks last about
> 15 mins. �Sometimes I tell myself, okay, 15 mins. of this shi** and
> then it will be over. �I try to remind myself that the attack *will*
> end.
>
> I wish you all the best,
> Vickie- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Apr 15, 4:51 pm, Joe.P.Mann...@googlemail.com wrote:

First off...Vickie noted (which gave Joe'ah lil "WHOO HOO" moment,
considerin' tha content, i'm sure..... ::tee hee: :

> > That sucks big time Joe.

<<<<<gasp>>>>>

> Thanks, Vickie.

(i need details... this is gettin' good.)

> Yeah you're about right with the 15 minute thing

(we call that'ah "quickie" round these parts)

> yes I am reading my nuts off at the moment.

oh ! store'em up for tha winter. they're great with maple syrup.

> It's all good reading.

sounds kinda painful from where i sit, but hey ! they ain't MY nuts.
(unless yer havin'ah dinner party this winter'n i'm invited.)

> Interesting too.

web cam it... SHARE WITH THA CLASS !

>I have learnt more in the last month or so than I
> have in five years!

(errrrrrr... no comment.)

> In fact I would go as far as to say that it would
> make "fun" reading if it was not happening to me.

but all in all, it's probly more fun than readin' tha next guy's nuts
off. (i'm presumin')

> I have indeed got my name down for a shrink.

and that's always tha end result, (especially when ya get outta tha
ocean in tha dead'ah winter,) yanno.

> But they said it may take
> a few months..

dang ! i AM in love ! nevah rush'ah good thang

::shivers, puddles and quakes::

> ..yeah I know socialist healthcare

doncha tho !

> my ass...

and keep it away from Dr. Ben Dover and his assistant Phil McCrevis,
they's lookin' for new blood. (at least thas tha word on tha
street.)

seriously, why ya stay in Ireland? what's keepin' ya there? i mean
really... why're ya so invested in ireland thatcha can't scoot on
to'ah place of medical comfort? hell, i did it. if i can do it,
anybody can.

c'mere ! i mean heck, i'll getcha sum 'patty o'furniture' if that's
what's keepin' ya !

.... and ya won't gotta duck ta avoid bombs. (well, i may gotta stand
corrected on that'n, but i'm optomistic)

i truly wonder what ireland has ta offer that'd keep ya in'ah state'ah
misery when all ya gotta do is jet yer ass (tha aforementioned one, of
course) ovah here where ya can getcher meds, and most likely without a
buttload'ah hassle.

worse case scenario? i'd split my script with ya. (i'm annoyin', so
that's tha down-side, but i can be bound'n gagged and won't put up too
much resistance.)

> Yes I am currently giving cognitive therepy a try. I walked a block
> today to post a cheque for ebay, sounds dumb but I'm quite proud.

(sounds dumb, but what's'ah "cheque"? )

> I told myself the whole time that it was just my brain f**king with me
> and that even if I did have a heart attack or colapse my chances were
> good

i dunno i'd be all keen about muh chances bein good to have'ah heart
attack... but dif'rent strokes.

> and that we have the best ambulance service in Europe etc.

ambulances can be lots'ah fun, ya even get ta turn on tha siren
sometimes... but at tha end of tha ride, (with no meds) it's all just
"what i did on my summer vacation"... i'm thinkin'.

> Boy, I tell ya, I was shattered when I came back.

at least ya didn't collapse.

> I almost fell asleep
> on the sofa...somthing I have not done for at least 6 months!

cool ! i DO hope ya read. ya can never stockpile enuff nuts, yanno.
(and yer 6 months behind, ya got sum catchin' up ta do.)

> Thank you all for your kind posts,

NO...thank YOU for givin' me'ah ray of hope that you'll come ovah here
and marry me forever and ever or at least a few days..... or at least
lemme watch ya read.

sincerely, try those sudafed or claratin-D pills; and BREATHE (i
could tell ya how i perfected that technique not only with me, but my
piercing and tat clientele, but it's long'n boring) and fa
chrissake... drink lots'ah water. relaxation techniques can be
employed no matter what yer doin' and meditation works wonders. (and
yeah, believe it or not, i do it.)

call me if ya got VOIP phone service and i'll tell ya sleepy time
stories and sing winnie tha pooh songs if all else fails. (ya ain't
that desperate, i know.... but just'n case,) ......

(205) 637-0022.

~tanya (yer sweet luvin' hillbilly pain'n tha ass)

Tututututut miss Tanya now you are also talking to strangers hehe

Love from Miss Anna

On 2 May, 00:17, "~tanya" <Subnbel...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Apr 15, 4:51 pm, Joe.P.Mann...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> First off...Vickie noted (which gave Joe'ah lil "WHOO HOO" moment,
> considerin' tha content, i'm sure..... ::tee hee: :
>
> > > That sucks big time Joe.
>
> <<<<<gasp>>>>>
>
> > Thanks, Vickie.
>
> (i need details... this is gettin' good.)
>
> > Yeah you're about right with the 15 minute thing
>
> (we call that'ah "quickie" round these parts)
>
> > yes I am reading my nuts off at the moment.
>
> oh ! store'em up for tha winter. they're great with maple syrup.
>
> > It's all good reading.
>
> sounds kinda painful from where i sit, but hey ! they ain't MY nuts.
> (unless yer havin'ah dinner party this winter'n i'm invited.)
>
> > Interesting too.
>
> web cam it... SHARE WITH THA CLASS !
>
> >I have learnt more in the last month or so than I
> > have in five years!
>
> (errrrrrr... no comment.)
>
> > In fact I would go as far as to say that it would
> > make "fun" reading if it was not happening to me.
>
> but all in all, it's probly more fun than readin' tha next guy's nuts
> off. (i'm presumin')
>
> > I have indeed got my name down for a shrink.
>
> and that's always tha end result, (especially when ya get outta tha
> ocean in tha dead'ah winter,) yanno.
>
> > But they said it may take
> > a few months..
>
> dang ! i AM in love ! nevah rush'ah good thang
>
> ::shivers, puddles and quakes::
>
> > ..yeah I know socialist healthcare
>
> doncha tho !
>
> > my ass...
>
> and keep it away from Dr. Ben Dover and his assistant Phil McCrevis,
> they's lookin' for new blood. (at least thas tha word on tha
> street.)
>
> seriously, why ya stay in Ireland? what's keepin' ya there? i mean
> really... why're ya so invested in ireland thatcha can't scoot on
> to'ah place of medical comfort? hell, i did it. if i can do it,
> anybody can.
>
> c'mere ! i mean heck, i'll getcha sum 'patty o'furniture' if that's
> what's keepin' ya !
>
> ... and ya won't gotta duck ta avoid bombs. (well, i may gotta stand
> corrected on that'n, but i'm optomistic)
>
> i truly wonder what ireland has ta offer that'd keep ya in'ah state'ah
> misery when all ya gotta do is jet yer ass (tha aforementioned one, of
> course) ovah here where ya can getcher meds, and most likely without a
> buttload'ah hassle.
>
> worse case scenario? i'd split my script with ya. (i'm annoyin', so
> that's tha down-side, but i can be bound'n gagged and won't put up too
> much resistance.)
>
> > Yes I am currently giving cognitive therepy a try. I walked a block
> > today to post a cheque