Re: Non-Invasive Cardiology

Don Kirkman wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Syd wrote:
>
> >> >How many doctors would even bother to interact with the public?
>
> >Actually, there have been only three other cardiologists that have
> >participated here on a regular basis over the past 7 years:
>
> >The other participating physicians have not been cardiologists and
> >typically don't even identify themselves as physicians here on SMC.
>
> Typically you have ignored the original question, which was not about
> cardiologists but about doctors.

My response was to your comments and not to Syd's question.

Truth is simple.

> Since the person who asked that
> question has been defending you ISTM you should at least deal with the
> question he asked, not the question you wish he had asked.

No need to reinvent your wheel.

> >> There are two very specific issues in play here.
>
> >Though this may be a game to you, it isn't for me.
>
> Again you betray your unfamiliarity with common English idioms and
> common sense.

Your word choice betrayed the motivation in your heart.

> >> First, Usenet from its inception was controlled by mutually agreed
> >> procedures and behavior. While some newsgroups have documents setting
> >> out their specific boundaries, all newsgroups by consensus are governed
> >> by "Netiquette."
>
> ============================
> >Etiquette governs nothing especially not here in an unmoderated usenet
> >newsgroup.
> =================================
>
> QED

The governance of unmoderated Usenet remains non-governance though
there have always been self-appointed "Net-Kops" such as yourself and
the AUK denizens.

> >> That consensus expects that posts and discussions will
> >> be limited to the subject matter of the group in question; e.g.,
> >> cardiology, diabetes, arthritis. General discussions of theology,
> >> politics, or history are expected to be avoided.
>
> >In reality, off-topic threads are present in every unmoderated usenet
> >newsgroup that is known as a rule.
>
> Nevertheless, the EXPECTATION is and always has been as I described.

Rules govern.

Etiquette does not.

Truth is simple.

Sorry the truth does not meet your expectation. Please forgive all my
iniquities.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM) dear neighbor Don whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love



> --
> Don Kirkman

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love12@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1163674394.645078.43660@m7g2000cwm.googlegrou ps.com...
[snip]
> Rules govern.

Everyone else, eh?

> Etiquette does not.

You don't know the meaning of the word.

> Truth is simple.

Not nearly as simple as you are.

> Sorry the truth does not meet your expectation. Please forgive all
my
> iniquities.

Boy, you'd be far more likely to get forgiveness for your iniquities,
if YOU'D STOP committing them.

Don Kirkman wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> >> Syd wrote:
>
> >> >> >How many doctors would even bother to interact with the public?
>
> >> >Actually, there have been only three other cardiologists that have
> >> >participated here on a regular basis over the past 7 years:
>
> >> >The other participating physicians have not been cardiologists and
> >> >typically don't even identify themselves as physicians here on SMC.
>
> >> Typically you have ignored the original question, which was not about
> >> cardiologists but about doctors.
>
> >My response was to your comments and not to Syd's question.
>
> >Truth is simple.
>
> But my response was confined to the precise issue that Syd raised; you
> are the one trying to narrow the question to cardiologists.

Actually, your response narrowed the focus to subspecialists
(rheumatologists).

Bottomline: You remain untruthful.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose unwisely
to curse HIM) dear neighbor Don whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

analog@logwell.com wrote:
> I started this thread, and I was specifically asking about cardiologists.

And I enjoyed our discussions :-)

> While Dr, Chung is about a subtle as a sledge hammer when it comes to his
> Christianity, it would be hardly appropriate to blame him for few doctors
> visiting Usenet.

More visit than you realize because most lurk.

> For starters Usenet is not exactly the cutting edge of the
> net; it is actually a sort of final incarnation of the old BBS culture, and is
> dying a slow death.

Actually the increasing activity on SMC would indicate otherwise:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/about

In 1996, the average number of posts per month was somewhere between
370 to 560.

This year, the average number is between 1320 and 4530.

Indeed, 4530 posts in April of this year is the all time record for SMC
and is about ten times the activity in 1996.

> And as I observed before, most doctors are not terribly
> moved at the prospect of donating their time for free to educate us peons out
> here in the real world.

Actually, more doctors (and other professionals) probably would be
willing to participate on Usenet if they could do it anonymously with
credibility.

Instead, they are lurking in shock and disbelief at the savage attacks
upon their colleagues who have chosen to openly participate on Usenet
and concluding that lawlessness reigns on Usenet fit only for hardier
souls.

Your no longer signing your name at the end of your posts is indicative
of yet one more professional that has come to this latter conclusion.

It is where lawlessness seemingly reigns that it is most clearly
evident that GOD reigns.

May you someday perceive this.

May GOD continue to help us with our needs, dear friend Syd whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love