Re: Running To Christ

<ken_wood56@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Juan Valdez wrote:
>> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
>> news:JtYhh.1040$w91.282@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> >
>> > and your priests are mostly sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong
>> > in
>> > prisons.
>> >
>>
>> Oh that's where your anger comes from....I hope the person who sexually
>> assaulted you is being punished.
>>
>> Please seek help for your anger
>
> Wow, you're down there with the cockroaches. That must come from
> watching your mother doing blowjobs for money. Sorry Juan. We will all
> pray for you and your diseased mother.
>
> KW
>

It's seems Kurt Gavin has emailed some of his friends to help him through
his denial....You're not doing him any favors, he needs help and your
enabling him.....I'll pray for the two of you.

"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:40:56 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
>> news:7asgo2lccbpi8comp7omi4jsgcn3g6i5ae@4ax.com...
>> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:01:09 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:c6ggo2987jhj56d3gaimtkneho4nierbhb@4ax.com...
>> >> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:47:41 GMT, "Kurt Gavin"
>> >> > <dontbother@ignore.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
>> >> >>Idiot.
>> >> >>Pointing out that something is false, is not the same as blaming
>> >> >>"it"
>> >> >>for
>> >> >>anything.
>> >> >
>> >> > I blame you for being so freaking stupid.
>> >>
>> >> Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing
>> >> miracle
>> >> cures and raising the dead.
>> >
>> > I'm not so sure. The Christians make clear time and again that they
>> > would
>> > do it
>> > in a heartbeat. If it wasn't Jesus, they'd consider them "witches".
>> > If
>> > it was
>> > Jesus, they'd do it "'cuz that's the master plan". They've often
>> > killed
>> > people
>> > believed to do cures and who are thought to commune with the dead.
>>
>> If they thought the witches had supernatural powers that could be used
>> for
>> the good, and that the witches actually had powers that could strike any
>> enemy dead,,, forget it, they would be safe.
>>
>> Give us some examples of people who are proven (not myths, proven) to be
>> able to do miracle cures and raise the dead, that have been put to death.
>
> As there aren't even any examples of people who are proven to be able to
> do
> miracles that have -not- been put to death. So why would there be any
> that
> were?

If jesus was real and resurrected, just produce him and let him prove his
existence and powers.

And it is proven that jesus was a fraud. The priests' willingness to execute
shows they knew he had no special powers.

"Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
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> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> You're a coward who mocks people who actually have been victimized by
>> pedophiles.
>>
>
> I never mocked you.

I know, but you mock victims of pedophilia.

You are a coward, and you are scum.

"Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
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> <ken_wood56@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Juan Valdez wrote:
>>> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
>>> news:JtYhh.1040$w91.282@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>> >
>>> > and your priests are mostly sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong
>>> > in
>>> > prisons.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Oh that's where your anger comes from....I hope the person who sexually
>>> assaulted you is being punished.
>>>
>>> Please seek help for your anger
>>
>> Wow, you're down there with the cockroaches. That must come from
>> watching your mother doing blowjobs for money. Sorry Juan. We will all
>> pray for you and your diseased mother.
>>
>> KW
>>
>
> It's seems Kurt Gavin has emailed some of his friends to help him through
> his denial....You're not doing him any favors, he needs help and your
> enabling him.....I'll pray for the two of you.

You are simply recognized as being a degenerate coward and scum.

You're obviously one of the Tedi Haggard types yourself, aren't you boy?
Have you gotten thrown out of any boys dorms lately, or is it restrooms for
you?

No one wants your prayers, or your slimy inuendos. You should consider
suicide.

It's fitting that you are a xian.

Where are you from, by the way?

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love7@thetruth.com> wrote in message
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> Juan Valdez wrote:
>> Tragic demon KG wrote:
>> > Juan Valdez wrote:
>> >> Tragic demon KG wrote:
>> >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>>> Frank wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>>> Why does the world not run to Christ?
>> >>>>> God clearly shows in the Bible
>> >>>
>> >>> The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was
>> >>> written by ordinary men.
>> >>>
>> >>>> Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
>> >>>> true.
>> >>>
>> >>> No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those
>> >>> with intact minds.
>> >>>
>> >>> <snip chung dung>
>> >>
>> >> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
>> >
>> > Idiot.
>>
>> Your anger is so transparent........Keep up your soul seaching though,
>> it's
>> the first step.
>
> Tragically, demon KG no longer has a soul since blaspheming the Holy
> Spirit by writing that HE is a man:

It's fitting that you would find a friend in a piece of scum like juanita.

In fact, he's probably you, posting under another name.

[Default] On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:50:02 -0500, "Juan Valdez"
<juan@colombia.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:

>"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> You're a coward who mocks people who actually have been victimized by
>> pedophiles.
>>
>
>I never mocked you.
>
>


it certainly looked that way to everyone else.

"without god's love, souls become hate-filled demons".

well the Buddhists are screwed. and Shinto, Taoists, Hindus, Setians, and
any other people who don't have a single god.

g.

"gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
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> "without god's love, souls become hate-filled demons".
>
> well the Buddhists are screwed. and Shinto, Taoists, Hindus, Setians, and
> any other people who don't have a single god.
>
> g.
>
>

hey , more bald guys , you'll fit right in

"Juan Valdez"
WHERES MY COFFEE?

duke wrote:

> On 19 Dec 2006 13:51:33 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"
> <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >> >Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so why
> >> >don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence and
> >> >powers?
> >> Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.
> >No, it's an old one.
>
> And it's just as wrong today as it was "before".
>

Are you calling Copernicus a liar?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Tragically, demon KG no longer has a soul since blaspheming the Holy
> Spirit by writing that HE is a man:

> Similarly, PK no longer has free will as a demon:

> Nor does AD have free will any longer as a demon:

> After losing his free will, MWP has also become a demon:

Oh, I get it now!
If Andy says you're now a "demon", your name disappears, to be replaced
by initials.

Why is that, Quackie?
Are you now forbidden to type their evil names?
Why aren't the initials evil too?
And where is it "written" that these names are no longer to be used?

In article <fpugo2pq010sufiot6lubddvmmv1osmgsq@4ax.com> no@spam.com writes:
>
> [Default] On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:57:48 -0500, "Juan Valdez"
> <juan@colombia.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:

{...}

> >>
> >
> >Your anger is so transparent........Keep up your soul seaching though, it's
> >the first step.
> >
>
>
> a true Christian would not cross post trolling non religious groups
> that want nothing to do with religious fighting.
>
> the religious were wrong when they said that the devil's greatest
> achievement was to convince man that he did not exist. That never
> really happened. All religions and non-religious people alike accept
> that evil exists. The devil's real achievement was to convince the
> religious (all religions) that fighting with one another and or
> killing one another in the name of God to prove that their God is the
> right God is what is right for people to do.
>
> No-one who harms another in the name of God will ever stand before
> God.
>

> chung is not a Christian. he claimed that mother's death was because
> he "chung" was not praying for that woman. no Christian would saying
> such an arrogant and evil spirited thing.



Along those lines, it might interest you to know that in a number of
threads on this newsgroup (alt.atheism), even longtime Chung-watchers have
been startled as the topic of Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church
came up -- and Andrew Chung not only refused to criticize their tactics
(you know, those are the folks who show up at the funerals of slain American
soldiers to taunt the bereaved with signs like "SOLDIERS DIE GOD LAUGHS"
or "THANK GOD for DEAD SOLIDIERS") -- Chung not only failed to say one
negative word about such behavior, but actually praised Phelps as someone
who "loves GOD with all his heart soul, mind, and strength".

If there is one iota of difference between those appalling funeral picketers
and Chung's telling you that:



Actually, the act of killfilling someone here on usenet is
acting on the thought of killing someone which is sin. If it
is true that Mack's foster mom did this, it would be revelatory
of an unregenerate heart.

Words for folks such as these would be:

"I know you not. Depart from ME you evildoers ! " -- LORD Jesus Christ


....then I fail to see it.


-- cary

Ma¢k wrote:

>
> a true Christian would not <snip>

http://www.saoirsesdemesne.com/scotbrave.htm

Where in scripture do we find that humans become demons? What is the
source of demons?

Well here's an idea. Have Jesus have a 50% off sale at Macy's. The
flocks will come running to the store.

Kurt Gavin wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> news:1166525306.908980.105480@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > Frank wrote:
> >> Why does the world not run to Christ?
> >> God clearly shows in the Bible
>
> The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was written
> by ordinary men.
>
>
>
> > Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
> > true.
>
> No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those with
> intact minds.
>
> <snip chung dung>

lestat wrote:
> Well here's an idea. Have Jesus have a 50% off sale at Macy's. The
> flocks will come running to the store.

LOL

JESUS SAVES ....... at Macy's!

<truthman@meditation.com> wrote in message
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> Where in scripture do we find that humans become demons? What is the
> source of demons?

'Scripture', hell! Look around you -- and in your church as well. Evil
masquerading as righteousness is all around you. Only that 'evil' is not in
the form of imaginary supernatural creatures. It's in the form of your
neighbor, your co-worker, your fellow church-goer, and even members of the
clergy *pretending* to be virtuous and 'decent' individuals when they are,
in fact, hypocritical dirt-bags who are looking out for themselves. It
wouldn't be so bad if they just 'chuck' the charade and let everyone see
them for their *true* selves. But their false 'righteousness' won't allow
them to do that now, will it?

Greywolf

Greywolf wrote:
> Tragic demon MWP wrote:
>
> > Where in scripture do we find that humans become demons? What is the
> > source of demons?
>
> 'Scripture', hell! Look around you --

.... or simply in the mirror for demon MWP:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...9f72abe5705dc?

Cary Kittrell wrote:
> In article <fpugo2pq010sufiot6lubddvmmv1osmgsq@4ax.com> no@spam.com writes:
> >
> > [Default] On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:57:48 -0500, "Juan Valdez"
> > <juan@colombia.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
>
> {...}
>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Your anger is so transparent........Keep up your soul seaching though, it's
> > >the first step.
> > >
> >
> >
> > a true Christian would not cross post trolling non religious groups
> > that want nothing to do with religious fighting.
> >
> > the religious were wrong when they said that the devil's greatest
> > achievement was to convince man that he did not exist. That never
> > really happened. All religions and non-religious people alike accept
> > that evil exists. The devil's real achievement was to convince the
> > religious (all religions) that fighting with one another and or
> > killing one another in the name of God to prove that their God is the
> > right God is what is right for people to do.
> >
> > No-one who harms another in the name of God will ever stand before
> > God.
> >
>
> > chung is not a Christian. he claimed that mother's death was because
> > he "chung" was not praying for that woman. no Christian would saying
> > such an arrogant and evil spirited thing.
>
>
>
> Along those lines, it might interest you to know that in a number of
> threads on this newsgroup (alt.atheism), even longtime Chung-watchers have
> been startled as the topic of Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church
> came up -- and Andrew Chung not only refused to criticize their tactics
> (you know, those are the folks who show up at the funerals of slain American
> soldiers to taunt the bereaved with signs like "SOLDIERS DIE GOD LAUGHS"
> or "THANK GOD for DEAD SOLIDIERS") -- Chung not only failed to say one
> negative word about such behavior, but actually praised Phelps as someone
> who "loves GOD with all his heart soul, mind, and strength".
>
> If there is one iota of difference between those appalling funeral picketers
> and Chung's telling you that:
>
>
>
> Actually, the act of killfilling someone here on usenet is
> acting on the thought of killing someone which is sin. If it
> is true that Mack's foster mom did this, it would be revelatory
> of an unregenerate heart.
>
> Words for folks such as these would be:
>
> "I know you not. Depart from ME you evildoers ! " -- LORD Jesus Christ
>
>

Really, He is your Lord, Cary? You accept Him as an authority to
quote? So, you must accept His way of salvation. Right?

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love7@thetruth.com> wrote in message
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> Greywolf wrote:
>> Tragic demon MWP wrote:
>>
>> > Where in scripture do we find that humans become demons? What is the
>> > source of demons?
>>
>> 'Scripture', hell! Look around you --
>
> ... or simply in the mirror for demon MWP:

Yes, a mirror might be just what blasphemer chung needs.

Do you notice the budding horns? The open mouth leer developing? The crazed
look in your eyes?

And of course - those panic attacks you've been experiencing...

Others have noticed and commented....

"Chee Jiao" <redjac2006@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> lestat wrote:
>> Well here's an idea. Have Jesus have a 50% off sale at Macy's. The
>> flocks will come running to the store.
>
> LOL
>
> JESUS SAVES ....... at Macy's!

Holysale beats retail anytime!

In article <1166643684.702825.167170@80g2000cwy.googlegroups. com> "Fool For Christ" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > In article <fpugo2pq010sufiot6lubddvmmv1osmgsq@4ax.com> no@spam.com writes:
> > >
> > > [Default] On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:57:48 -0500, "Juan Valdez"
> > > <juan@colombia.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
> >
> > {...}
> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Your anger is so transparent........Keep up your soul seaching though, it's
> > > >the first step.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > a true Christian would not cross post trolling non religious groups
> > > that want nothing to do with religious fighting.
> > >
> > > the religious were wrong when they said that the devil's greatest
> > > achievement was to convince man that he did not exist. That never
> > > really happened. All religions and non-religious people alike accept
> > > that evil exists. The devil's real achievement was to convince the
> > > religious (all religions) that fighting with one another and or
> > > killing one another in the name of God to prove that their God is the
> > > right God is what is right for people to do.
> > >
> > > No-one who harms another in the name of God will ever stand before
> > > God.
> > >
> >
> > > chung is not a Christian. he claimed that mother's death was because
> > > he "chung" was not praying for that woman. no Christian would saying
> > > such an arrogant and evil spirited thing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Along those lines, it might interest you to know that in a number of
> > threads on this newsgroup (alt.atheism), even longtime Chung-watchers have
> > been startled as the topic of Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church
> > came up -- and Andrew Chung not only refused to criticize their tactics
> > (you know, those are the folks who show up at the funerals of slain American
> > soldiers to taunt the bereaved with signs like "SOLDIERS DIE GOD LAUGHS"
> > or "THANK GOD for DEAD SOLIDIERS") -- Chung not only failed to say one
> > negative word about such behavior, but actually praised Phelps as someone
> > who "loves GOD with all his heart soul, mind, and strength".
> >
> > If there is one iota of difference between those appalling funeral picketers
> > and Chung's telling you that:
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually, the act of killfilling someone here on usenet is
> > acting on the thought of killing someone which is sin. If it
> > is true that Mack's foster mom did this, it would be revelatory
> > of an unregenerate heart.
> >
> > Words for folks such as these would be:
> >
> > "I know you not. Depart from ME you evildoers ! " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> >
> >


>
> Really, He is your Lord, Cary? You accept Him as an authority to
> quote? So, you must accept His way of salvation. Right?

Beg pardon? The indented section, above, is taken from
a post by Andrew B Chung [1]; it was not composed by me.

-- cary



[1] -- Message-ID: <1164758834.252501.287980@14g2000cws.googlegroups. com>

In article <1166642524.073879.156750@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups .com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love7@thetruth.com> writes:
> Greywolf wrote:
> > Tragic demon MWP wrote:
> >
> > > Where in scripture do we find that humans become demons? What is the
> > > source of demons?
> >
> > 'Scripture', hell! Look around you --
>
> ... or simply in the mirror for demon MWP:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...9f72abe5705dc?
>

If Greywolf looks in his mirror, he's going to see Mark W Phelps?

I'd put such a mirror up on eBay like a shot.



-- cary

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:37:28 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:

>>>Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing
>>>miracle
>>>cures and raising the dead.

>> Quite right. They never witnessed any actual miracle cures or raising the
>> dead.

>Nobody ever did. It never happened. The feats of Hercules and Zeus were just
>as real as jesus' miracles.

Then say your prayers to hercules or zeus.

>>>It's a myth only the weak and stupid believe.
>> There being no God is a myth only the weak and stupid like you believe.
>Dupe, you are using grade school mislogic.

gotcha.

>It is up to the person saying something exists, to prove it exists.

The evidence is overwhelming.

>It's not up to others to prove something doesn't exist. There's an infinite
>number of things that don't exist.

Right - one of them is that God does not exist.

>You can win the argument easily - just produce either god or jesus so they
>can prove their existence and powers.
>If you can't do that, go away and admit its a fantasy, like Zeus and snake
>gods .

You said it, now in accordance with your argument, prove it.

>>>What the Jewish priests knew about bar Joseph from their intelligence
>>>sources, was that he was conning the common people with magic tricks, and
>>>making basphemous claims.
>> No, that he was stealing their thunder.
>No, he was violating existing jewish law regarding blasphemy, and they
>weren't worried about persecuting someone with vast supernatural power,
>becasue they knew he had none.

That's what I said - he was stealing their thunder.

>>> That's why they went to the Roman occupation
>>>authorities and asked that he be executed. The Romans government had
>>>reserved the power for executions to themselves.
>> And what did PPilate say?
>He said, ok, execute him, if you really want to.

No, he didn't. He washed his hands of the whole sordid affair.

>>>You and the other xians are just stupid dupes, and your priests are mostly
>>>sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in prisons.

>> Me: win/no win. You: lose/no win. No win comes into play if there is
>> no
>> almighty God. Now what, turkey?

>If there really is one, he'll see through that and send you straight to
>hell, idiot.

Not me, but you.

>>>> No, he well pointed out your shortcomings.
>>>That, from the duke dupe moron.

>> You don't actually think I give you credit for being more intelligent than
>> me,
>> do you?

>Hahahahahaahhaa. The stupid rarely can realize their condition. But they
>have no troble reavealing it.

Oh, I have no "troble" laughing at you a-tall.

>If the church were worth anything - it wouldn't have a record of shielding
>and facilitating pedophiles.

Men are sinners. Heb 4:15.


duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:25:18 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:

>>>>>Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so
>>>>>why
>>>>>don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence
>>>>>and
>>>>>powers?

>>>> Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.
>>>> Jesus already make his eye witness appearance. Are you ready for
>>>> satan?

>>>Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing
>>>miracle
>>>cures and raising the dead.

>> Gotcha.

>No, your brain quit working before you could read the rest.. here it is..

>Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing miracle
>cures and raising the dead.

You said it right there above.

duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

On 20 Dec 2006 04:23:15 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

>> >> >Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so why
>> >> >don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence and
>> >> >powers?
>> >> Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.
>> >No, it's an old one.

>> And it's just as wrong today as it was "before".
>Are you calling Copernicus a liar?

What did he say?

duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:25:18 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>>>Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited,
>>>>>>so
>>>>>>why
>>>>>>don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its
>>>>>>existence
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>powers?
>
>>>>> Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.
>>>>> Jesus already make his eye witness appearance. Are you ready for
>>>>> satan?
>
>>>>Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing
>>>>miracle
>>>>cures and raising the dead.
>
>>> Gotcha.
>
>>No, your brain quit working before you could read the rest.. here it is..
>
>>Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing
>>miracle
>>cures and raising the dead.
>
> You said it right there above.

Go back to your Alice in Wonderland.




>
> duke, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:37:28 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing
>>>>miracle
>>>>cures and raising the dead.
>
>>> Quite right. They never witnessed any actual miracle cures or raising
>>> the
>>> dead.
>
>>Nobody ever did. It never happened. The feats of Hercules and Zeus were
>>just
>>as real as jesus' miracles.
>
> Then say your prayers to hercules or zeus.

You believe in them, too? You're not just a duo-theist, you're a polytheist.


>
>>>>It's a myth only the weak and stupid believe.
>>> There being no God is a myth only the weak and stupid like you believe.
>>Dupe, you are using grade school mislogic.
>
> gotcha.

Excellent.


>
>>It is up to the person saying something exists, to prove it exists.
>
> The evidence is overwhelming.
>
>>It's not up to others to prove something doesn't exist. There's an
>>infinite
>>number of things that don't exist.
>
> Right - one of them is that God does not exist.

Did you even get out of high school?




>
>>You can win the argument easily - just produce either god or jesus so they
>>can prove their existence and powers.
>>If you can't do that, go away and admit its a fantasy, like Zeus and snake
>>gods .
>
> You said it, now in accordance with your argument, prove it.

LOL. I've proven you're out to lunch.

>
>>>>What the Jewish priests knew about bar Joseph from their intelligence
>>>>sources, was that he was conning the common people with magic tricks,
>>>>and
>>>>making basphemous claims.
>>> No, that he was stealing their thunder.
>>No, he was violating existing jewish law regarding blasphemy, and they
>>weren't worried about persecuting someone with vast supernatural power,
>>becasue they knew he had none.
>
> That's what I said - he was stealing their thunder.

You just agreed jesus had no miracle powers.


>
>>>> That's why they went to the Roman occupation
>>>>authorities and asked that he be executed. The Romans government had
>>>>reserved the power for executions to themselves.
>>> And what did PPilate say?
>>He said, ok, execute him, if you really want to.
>
> No, he didn't. He washed his hands of the whole sordid affair.

He was the fianl authority dummy - it didn't happen without his ok.

And the account varies and is just a part of early xian propaganda.


>>>>You and the other xians are just stupid dupes, and your priests are
>>>>mostly
>>>>sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in prisons.
>
>>> Me: win/no win. You: lose/no win. No win comes into play if there is
>>> no
>>> almighty God. Now what, turkey?
>
>>If there really is one, he'll see through that and send you straight to
>>hell, idiot.
>
> Not me, but you.

No moron, he will see you are insincere and punish you.




>
>>>>> No, he well pointed out your shortcomings.
>>>>That, from the duke dupe moron.
>
>>> You don't actually think I give you credit for being more intelligent
>>> than
>>> me,
>>> do you?
>
>>Hahahahahaahhaa. The stupid rarely can realize their condition. But they
>>have no troble reavealing it.
>
> Oh, I have no "troble" laughing at you a-tall.


LOL. The stupid rarely can realize their condition. But they
have no trouble reavealing it.





>
>>If the church were worth anything - it wouldn't have a record of shielding
>>and facilitating pedophiles.
>
> Men are sinners. Heb 4:15.

Dupe is a braindead.



>
>
> duke, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:34:37 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

>On 20 Dec 2006 04:23:15 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>> >> >Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so why
>>> >> >don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence and
>>> >> >powers?
>>> >> Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.
>>> >No, it's an old one.
>
>>> And it's just as wrong today as it was "before".
>>Are you calling Copernicus a liar?
>
>What did he say?

Translation -

"Huh? Caperni who?"

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Greywolf wrote:
> > > Tragic demon MWP wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where in scripture do we find that humans become demons? What is the
> > > > source of demons?
> > >
> > > 'Scripture', hell! Look around you --
> >
> > ... or simply in the mirror for demon MWP:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...9f72abe5705dc?
>
> If Greywolf looks in his mirror, he's going to see Mark W Phelps?

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

>>
>> If Greywolf looks in his mirror, he's going to see Mark W Phelps?
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
>

clearly you remain an ignorant bastard.

SUCK THE COCK OF CHRIST!--Holly Spirit.
>

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:08:44 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:

>>>Nobody ever did. It never happened. The feats of Hercules and Zeus were
>>>just
>>>as real as jesus' miracles.
>> Then say your prayers to hercules or zeus.

>You believe in them, too? You're not just a duo-theist, you're a polytheist.

Nope, I don't believe in them.

>> gotcha.
>Excellent.

You're welcome.

>>>It's not up to others to prove something doesn't exist. There's an
>>>infinite
>>>number of things that don't exist.
>> Right - one of them is that God does not exist.
>Did you even get out of high school?

BSME.

>>>You can win the argument easily - just produce either god or jesus so they
>>>can prove their existence and powers.
>>>If you can't do that, go away and admit its a fantasy, like Zeus and snake
>>>gods .

>> You said it, now in accordance with your argument, prove it.
>LOL. I've proven you're out to lunch.

I've proven you live with your head in a toilet.

>> That's what I said - he was stealing their thunder.
>You just agreed jesus had no miracle powers.

No, I didn't. With God, nothing is impossible.

>> No, he didn't. He washed his hands of the whole sordid affair.
>He was the fianl authority dummy - it didn't happen without his ok.

You apparently didn't know he washed his hands of the whole sordid affair.

>And the account varies and is just a part of early xian propaganda.

Yeah, sure bubba.

>>>If there really is one, he'll see through that and send you straight to
>>>hell, idiot.
>> Not me, but you.
>No moron, he will see you are insincere and punish you.

Well, he clearly sees both of us for what we are. Best of luck to you.

>>>Hahahahahaahhaa. The stupid rarely can realize their condition. But they
>>>have no troble reavealing it.
>> Oh, I have no "troble" laughing at you a-tall.
>LOL. The stupid rarely can realize their condition. But they
>have no trouble reavealing it.

Did you have trouble "reavealing" it?

>> Men are sinners. Heb 4:15.
>Dupe is a braindead.

Gotcha.


duke, American-American
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Pope Paul VI
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"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:40:56 GMT, "Kurt Gavin"
<dontbother@ignore.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7asgo2lccbpi8comp7omi4jsgcn3g6i5ae@4ax.com...
> >> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:01:09 GMT, "Kurt Gavin"
<dontbother@ignore.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:c6ggo2987jhj56d3gaimtkneho4nierbhb@4ax.com...
> >> >> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:47:41 GMT, "Kurt Gavin"
> >> >> > <dontbother@ignore.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
> >> >> >>Idiot.
> >> >> >>Pointing out that something is false, is not the same as
blaming
> >> >> >>"it"
> >> >> >>for
> >> >> >>anything.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I blame you for being so freaking stupid.
> >> >>
> >> >> Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of
doing
> >> >> miracle
> >> >> cures and raising the dead.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not so sure. The Christians make clear time and again that
they
> >> > would
> >> > do it
> >> > in a heartbeat. If it wasn't Jesus, they'd consider them
"witches".
> >> > If
> >> > it was
> >> > Jesus, they'd do it "'cuz that's the master plan". They've
often
> >> > killed
> >> > people
> >> > believed to do cures and who are thought to commune with the
dead.
> >>
> >> If they thought the witches had supernatural powers that could be
used