Re: Running To Christ

Frank wrote:
> Why does the world not run to Christ?
> God clearly shows in the Bible
> and thru the Protestant Reformers
> that Christ is the only hope there is
> and that ALL trust for salvation
> must be on him.
> Why is the world not running to him
> and casting itself on his mercy
> and humbly asking him
> to grant it eternal life?
>
> --
> http://roines.home.mindspring.com

Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
true.

Indeed, LORD Jesus Christ is the only Person among us Who is good.

HE is our KING of kings and LORD of lords as it is written in the
Bible, on HIS robe, and on HIS thigh.

May GOD continue to bless the spreading of HIS good news throughout the
world (including usenet) about HIS one and only begotten Son, Who chose
to suffer terribly and die horribly on the cross to save us from our
deadly sins. Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to our
heavenly Father for HIS Son rising up on that fantastic third day !

Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear brother
Frank whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
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>
> Indeed, LORD Jesus Christ is the only Person among us Who is good.
>

Just good.......What about GREAT???? Your Asian Bible needs updating.

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
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> Frank wrote:
>> Why does the world not run to Christ?
>> God clearly shows in the Bible

The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was written
by ordinary men.



> Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
> true.

No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those with
intact minds.

<snip chung dung>

The world is only 6000 years old and I like to speak in
tongues!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kurt Gavin wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> news:1166525306.908980.105480@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > Frank wrote:
> >> Why does the world not run to Christ?
> >> God clearly shows in the Bible
>
> The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was written
> by ordinary men.
>
>
>
> > Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
> > true.
>
> No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those with
> intact minds.
>
> <snip chung dung>

"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> news:1166525306.908980.105480@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Why does the world not run to Christ?
>>> God clearly shows in the Bible
>
> The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was
> written by ordinary men.
>
>
>
>> Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
>> true.
>
> No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those with
> intact minds.
>
> <snip chung dung>

Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D

Juan Valdez wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Indeed, LORD Jesus Christ is the only Person among us Who is good.
> >
>
> Just good.......

KING of kings and LORD of lords.

> What about GREAT????

GOD is great !

Laus Deo ! !

> Your Asian Bible needs updating.

GOD remains the same as HE has always been and will ever be.

Most assuredly, without doubt, I know HIM to be kind, just, and right.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our neighbors a
little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor Juan whom I
love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love7@thetruth.com> wrote in message
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> Juan Valdez wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >
>> > Indeed, LORD Jesus Christ is the only Person among us Who is good.
>> >
>>
>> Just good.......
>
> KING of kings and LORD of lords.

PROOF Chung????

You have forgotten the wisdom of your ancestors: "no tikkee, no laundry".

Yes, Chung, they understood the need for PROOF.

Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so why
don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence and
powers?

When can we expect that, Chung?

Until then - "no tikkee, no laundry".

<snip>

"Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
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> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166525306.908980.105480@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Why does the world not run to Christ?
>>>> God clearly shows in the Bible
>>
>> The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was
>> written by ordinary men.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
>>> true.
>>
>> No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those
>> with intact minds.
>>
>> <snip chung dung>
>
> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D

Idiot.

Pointing out that something is false, is not the same as blaming "it" for
anything.

I don't like other types of "con games" either, but I don't blame them for
the world's ills.

Xian fantasies harm the brain, as your post illustrates.

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:45:00 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:

>Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so why
>don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence and
>powers?

Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.

Jesus already make his eye witness appearance. Are you ready for satan?

duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:49:27 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:

>The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was written
>by ordinary men.

It's your funeral. Go for it.

duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:47:41 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:

>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
>Idiot.
>Pointing out that something is false, is not the same as blaming "it" for
>anything.

I blame you for being so freaking stupid.

>I don't like other types of "con games" either, but I don't blame them for
>the world's ills.
>Xian fantasies harm the brain, as your post illustrates.

No, he well pointed out your shortcomings.


duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
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>> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1166525306.908980.105480@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Why does the world not run to Christ?
>>>>> God clearly shows in the Bible
>>>
>>> The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was
>>> written by ordinary men.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
>>>> true.
>>>
>>> No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those
>>> with intact minds.
>>>
>>> <snip chung dung>
>>
>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
>
> Idiot.
>

Your anger is so transparent........Keep up your soul seaching though, it's
the first step.


> I don't like other types of "con games" either, but I don't blame them for
> the world's ills.
>

Oh you lost money on a sucker investment............Ask yourself, "Who's the
Idiot now"?


> Xian fantasies harm the brain, as your post illustrates.

Atheist insecurities are kind of funny, as your reply illustrates. I wish
you luck on your soul searching though. :-D

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:45:00 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so
>>why
>>don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence
>>and
>>powers?
>
> Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.
>
> Jesus already make his eye witness appearance. Are you ready for satan?

Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing miracle
cures and raising the dead.

What the Jewish priests knew about bar Joseph from their intelligence
sources, was that he was conning the common people with magic tricks, and
making blasphemous claims. That's why they went to the Roman occupation
authorities and asked that he be executed. The Romans government had
reserved the power for executions to themselves.

You and the other xians are just stupid dupes, and your priests are mostly
sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in prisons.

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:47:41 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
>>Idiot.
>>Pointing out that something is false, is not the same as blaming "it" for
>>anything.
>
> I blame you for being so freaking stupid.

Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing miracle
cures and raising the dead.

It's a myth only the weak and stupid believe.

What the Jewish priests knew about bar Joseph from their intelligence
sources, was that he was conning the common people with magic tricks, and
making basphemous claims. That's why they went to the Roman occupation
authorities and asked that he be executed. The Romans government had
reserved the power for executions to themselves.

You and the other xians are just stupid dupes, and your priests are mostly
sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in prisons.

>>I don't like other types of "con games" either, but I don't blame them for
>>the world's ills.
>>Xian fantasies harm the brain, as your post illustrates.
>
> No, he well pointed out your shortcomings.

That, from the duke dupe moron.




>
>
> duke, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:49:27 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> wrote:
>
>>The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was
>>written
>>by ordinary men.
>
> It's your funeral. Go for it.

You're too much of a coward to face reality without your fantasies.

Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing miracle
cures and raising the dead.

What the Jewish priests knew about bar Joseph from their intelligence
sources, was that he was conning the common people with magic tricks, and
making basphemous claims. That's why they went to the Roman occupation
authorities and asked that he be executed. The Romans government had
reserved the power for executions to themselves.

You and the other xians are just stupid dupes, and your priests are mostly
sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in prisons.


>
> duke, American-American

Real Americans use their brains, they don't hide behind childish fantasies.

> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

"Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
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> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1166525306.908980.105480@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Why does the world not run to Christ?
>>>>>> God clearly shows in the Bible
>>>>
>>>> The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was
>>>> written by ordinary men.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
>>>>> true.
>>>>
>>>> No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those
>>>> with intact minds.
>>>>
>>>> <snip chung dung>
>>>
>>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
>>
>> Idiot.
>>
>
> Your anger is so transparent........Keep up your soul seaching though,
> it's the first step.

Not anger, I just enjoy exposing frauds.

No one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing miracle cures and
raising the dead.

What the Jewish priests knew about bar Joseph from their intelligence
sources, was that he was conning the common people with magic tricks, and
making basphemous claims. That's why they went to the Roman occupation
authorities and asked that he be executed. The Romans government had
reserved the power for executions to themselves.

You and the other xians are just stupid dupes, and your priests are mostly
sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in prisons.


>> I don't like other types of "con games" either, but I don't blame them
>> for the world's ills.
>>
>
> Oh you lost money on a sucker investment............Ask yourself, "Who's
> the Idiot now"?

Well, that inane reply just indicates how stupid you are, which is common
for fantasy believers.

"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>
> and your priests are mostly sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in
> prisons.
>

Oh that's where your anger comes from....I hope the person who sexually
assaulted you is being punished.

Please seek help for your anger.

"Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> writes:
>
> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
> > news:45882aa9$1_2@x-privat.org...
> >> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
> >> news:HCVhh.1255$X72.583@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> >>>
> >>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1166525306.908980.105480@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>> Frank wrote:
> >>>>> Why does the world not run to Christ?
> >>>>> God clearly shows in the Bible
> >>>
> >>> The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was
> >>> written by ordinary men.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
> >>>> true.
> >>>
> >>> No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those
> >>> with intact minds.
> >>>
> >>> <snip chung dung>
> >>
> >> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
> >
> > Idiot.
> >
>
> Your anger is so transparent........Keep up your soul seaching though, it's
> the first step.
>
>
> > I don't like other types of "con games" either, but I don't blame them for
> > the world's ills.
> >
>
> Oh you lost money on a sucker investment............Ask yourself, "Who's the
> Idiot now"?
>
>
> > Xian fantasies harm the brain, as your post illustrates.
>
> Atheist insecurities are kind of funny, as your reply illustrates. I wish
> you luck on your soul searching though. :-D


Um...excuse me? Excuse me?

Are you just talking to yourself here, or...well, are you OK?

You seem to be convinced that you are talking to something
you call "Kurt Gavin", but...well, I'm afraid that I have
to tell you that according to Andrew Chung, this "Kurt
Gavin" has been "totally consumed by holy fire from heaven".
And that being the case ....well, I mean...you know, talking
talking to yourself is usually OK, we all do it, but
in this case...

In fact, as Dr Chung has informed us that fires from
heaven can remove "all traces, past, present, and future",
I'm not sure why I'm can even remember all this myself.


-- cary

duke wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:45:00 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:
>
> >Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so why
> >don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence and
> >powers?
>
> Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.
>

No, it's an old one.

> Jesus already make his eye witness appearance. Are you ready for satan?
>
> duke, American-American
> *****
> "Mass suicide is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Jim Jones
> *****

"Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
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> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> and your priests are mostly sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in
>> prisons.
>>
>
> Oh that's where your anger comes from....I hope the person who sexually
> assaulted you is being punished.

Coward. You can't deal with the truth about your shit religion, so you
invent a lame reply like that.

Your reply does raise an interesting point, though.

What kind of sick little coward revels in sexual exploitation of children,
as you do?

You are a loathsome piece of shit.









>
> Please seek help for your anger.
>
>
>
>

"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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> "Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
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>> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> and your priests are mostly sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong
>>> in prisons.
>>>
>>
>> Oh that's where your anger comes from....I hope the person who sexually
>> assaulted you is being punished.
>
> Coward. You can't deal with the truth about your shit religion, so you
> invent a lame reply like that.
>

What? Your anger towards the person who did that horrible thing to you is
justified...Your anger towards me is not.

Are you guilty about something?


> Your reply does raise an interesting point, though.

I think my reply raised more than one thing with you......You need help. :-D


>
> What kind of sick little coward revels in sexual exploitation of children,
> as you do?
>

You posted, "and your priests are mostly sick homosexuals and pedophiles who
belong in
prisons". Not Me. :-D



> You are a loathsome piece of shit.
>


Still angry.....I'll pray for you.




>
>
>
>>
>> Please seek help for your anger.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:01:09 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:

>>>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
>>>Idiot.
>>>Pointing out that something is false, is not the same as blaming "it" for
>>>anything.

>> I blame you for being so freaking stupid.

>Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing miracle
>cures and raising the dead.

Quite right. They never witnessed any actual miracle cures or raising the dead.

>It's a myth only the weak and stupid believe.

There being no God is a myth only the weak and stupid like you believe.

>What the Jewish priests knew about bar Joseph from their intelligence
>sources, was that he was conning the common people with magic tricks, and
>making basphemous claims.

No, that he was stealing their thunder.

> That's why they went to the Roman occupation
>authorities and asked that he be executed. The Romans government had
>reserved the power for executions to themselves.

And what did PPilate say?

>You and the other xians are just stupid dupes, and your priests are mostly
>sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in prisons.

Me: win/no win. You: lose/no win. No win comes into play if there is no
almighty God. Now what, turkey?

>> No, he well pointed out your shortcomings.
>That, from the duke dupe moron.

You don't actually think I give you credit for being more intelligent than me,
do you?


duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:59:07 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:

>>>Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so
>>>why
>>>don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence
>>>and
>>>powers?

>> Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.
>> Jesus already make his eye witness appearance. Are you ready for satan?

>Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing miracle
>cures and raising the dead.

Gotcha.


duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

On 19 Dec 2006 13:51:33 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

>> >Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so why
>> >don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence and
>> >powers?
>> Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.
>No, it's an old one.

And it's just as wrong today as it was "before".

Now if you wish to advise the ng what is discredited, I'd be glad to discuss it
with you right here in front of everyone of your atheist buddies.


duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:01:09 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:

>
> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:c6ggo2987jhj56d3gaimtkneho4nierbhb@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:47:41 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
> >>Idiot.
> >>Pointing out that something is false, is not the same as blaming "it" for
> >>anything.
> >
> > I blame you for being so freaking stupid.
>
> Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing miracle
> cures and raising the dead.

I'm not so sure. The Christians make clear time and again that they would do it
in a heartbeat. If it wasn't Jesus, they'd consider them "witches". If it was
Jesus, they'd do it "'cuz that's the master plan". They've often killed people
believed to do cures and who are thought to commune with the dead.
--
L8r,

Uncle Clover

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~
Who we were is meaningless in the face of who we are, and
who we are is but a stepping stone to who we shall become
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~.

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:59:07 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>Where's the proof? Certainly, the New Testament has been discredited, so
>>>>why
>>>>don't you have your jesus/god make an appearance and prove its existence
>>>>and
>>>>powers?
>
>>> Discredited? Wow, that's a new one.
>>> Jesus already make his eye witness appearance. Are you ready for
>>> satan?
>
>>Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing
>>miracle
>>cures and raising the dead.
>
> Gotcha.

No, your brain quit working before you could read the rest.. here it is..

Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing miracle
cures and raising the dead.

What the Jewish priests knew about bar Joseph from their intelligence
sources, was that he was conning the common people with magic tricks, and
making blasphemous claims. That's why they went to the Roman occupation
authorities and asked that he be executed. The Romans government had
reserved the power for executions to themselves.

You and the other xians are just stupid dupes, and your priests are mostly
sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in prisons.

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:57:48 -0500, Juan Valdez wrote:

> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
> news:htWhh.1271$X72.996@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>
>> "Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
>> news:45882aa9$1_2@x-privat.org...
>>> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
>>> news:HCVhh.1255$X72.583@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1166525306.908980.105480@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Why does the world not run to Christ?
>>>>>> God clearly shows in the Bible
>>>>
>>>> The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was
>>>> written by ordinary men.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
>>>>> true.
>>>>
>>>> No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those
>>>> with intact minds.
>>>>
>>>> <snip chung dung>
>>>
>>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
>>
>> Idiot.
>>
>
> Your anger is so transparent........Keep up your soul seaching though, it's
> the first step.
>
>
>> I don't like other types of "con games" either, but I don't blame them for
>> the world's ills.
>>
>
> Oh you lost money on a sucker investment............Ask yourself, "Who's the
> Idiot now"?
>
>
>> Xian fantasies harm the brain, as your post illustrates.
>
> Atheist insecurities are kind of funny, as your reply illustrates. I wish
> you luck on your soul searching though. :-D


Yawn.



--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-H. L. Mencken

Juan Valdez wrote:
> Tragic demon KG wrote:
> > Juan Valdez wrote:
> >> Tragic demon KG wrote:
> >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>> Frank wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> Why does the world not run to Christ?
> >>>>> God clearly shows in the Bible
> >>>
> >>> The bible is full of falsities. Either god is false or the bible was
> >>> written by ordinary men.
> >>>
> >>>> Because the world, in its foolishness, believes HE is too good to be
> >>>> true.
> >>>
> >>> No, because the falsitiy of the whole jesus thing is obvious to those
> >>> with intact minds.
> >>>
> >>> <snip chung dung>
> >>
> >> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
> >
> > Idiot.
>
> Your anger is so transparent........Keep up your soul seaching though, it's
> the first step.

Tragically, demon KG no longer has a soul since blaspheming the Holy
Spirit by writing that HE is a man:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...e38ce739ca3e3?

Clearly as a demon he no longer has free will:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8bc5bc5441a64?

Similarly, PK no longer has free will as a demon:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...466c7eddb463a?

Nor does AD have free will any longer as a demon:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...1d8f1ca7e0422?

After losing his free will, MWP has also become a demon:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ac5f565f1b808?

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our neighbors a
little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear Juan whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1drgo2hvkqk2jom2isft99ugb035om3smb@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:01:09 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
>>>>Idiot.
>>>>Pointing out that something is false, is not the same as blaming "it"
>>>>for
>>>>anything.
>
>>> I blame you for being so freaking stupid.
>
>>Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing
>>miracle
>>cures and raising the dead.
>
> Quite right. They never witnessed any actual miracle cures or raising the
> dead.


Nobody ever did. It never happened. The feats of Hercules and Zeus were just
as real as jesus' miracles.


>>It's a myth only the weak and stupid believe.
>
> There being no God is a myth only the weak and stupid like you believe.


Dupe, you are using grade school mislogic.

It is up to the person saying something exists, to prove it exists.

It's not up to others to prove something doesn't exist. There's an infinite
number of things that don't exist.

You can win the argument easily - just produce either god or jesus so they
can prove their existence and powers.

If you can't do that, go away and admit its a fantasy, like Zeus and snake
gods .


>>What the Jewish priests knew about bar Joseph from their intelligence
>>sources, was that he was conning the common people with magic tricks, and
>>making basphemous claims.
>
> No, that he was stealing their thunder.

No, he was violating existing jewish law regarding blasphemy, and they
weren't worried about persecuting someone with vast supernatural power,
becasue they knew he had none.




>
>> That's why they went to the Roman occupation
>>authorities and asked that he be executed. The Romans government had
>>reserved the power for executions to themselves.
>
> And what did PPilate say?

He said, ok, execute him, if you really want to.

>
>>You and the other xians are just stupid dupes, and your priests are mostly
>>sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong in prisons.
>
> Me: win/no win. You: lose/no win. No win comes into play if there is
> no
> almighty God. Now what, turkey?

If there really is one, he'll see through that and send you straight to
hell, idiot.


>>> No, he well pointed out your shortcomings.
>>That, from the duke dupe moron.
>
> You don't actually think I give you credit for being more intelligent than
> me,
> do you?

Hahahahahaahhaa. The stupid rarely can realize their condition. But they
have no troble reavealing it.

If the church were worth anything - it wouldn't have a record of shielding
and facilitating pedophiles.

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:40:56 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote:

>
> "Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
> news:7asgo2lccbpi8comp7omi4jsgcn3g6i5ae@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:01:09 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> news:c6ggo2987jhj56d3gaimtkneho4nierbhb@4ax.com...
> >> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:47:41 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
> >> >>Idiot.
> >> >>Pointing out that something is false, is not the same as blaming "it"
> >> >>for
> >> >>anything.
> >> >
> >> > I blame you for being so freaking stupid.
> >>
> >> Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing
> >> miracle
> >> cures and raising the dead.
> >
> > I'm not so sure. The Christians make clear time and again that they would
> > do it
> > in a heartbeat. If it wasn't Jesus, they'd consider them "witches". If
> > it was
> > Jesus, they'd do it "'cuz that's the master plan". They've often killed
> > people
> > believed to do cures and who are thought to commune with the dead.
>
> If they thought the witches had supernatural powers that could be used for
> the good, and that the witches actually had powers that could strike any
> enemy dead,,, forget it, they would be safe.
>
> Give us some examples of people who are proven (not myths, proven) to be
> able to do miracle cures and raise the dead, that have been put to death.

As there aren't even any examples of people who are proven to be able to do
miracles that have -not- been put to death. So why would there be any that
were?
--
L8r,

Uncle Clover

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~
Who we were is meaningless in the face of who we are, and
who we are is but a stepping stone to who we shall become
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~.

"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:7asgo2lccbpi8comp7omi4jsgcn3g6i5ae@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:01:09 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:c6ggo2987jhj56d3gaimtkneho4nierbhb@4ax.com...
>> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:47:41 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Someone's blaming God for all their problems. :-D
>> >>Idiot.
>> >>Pointing out that something is false, is not the same as blaming "it"
>> >>for
>> >>anything.
>> >
>> > I blame you for being so freaking stupid.
>>
>> Duke dupe moron, no one would kill someone ACTUALLY capable of doing
>> miracle
>> cures and raising the dead.
>
> I'm not so sure. The Christians make clear time and again that they would
> do it
> in a heartbeat. If it wasn't Jesus, they'd consider them "witches". If
> it was
> Jesus, they'd do it "'cuz that's the master plan". They've often killed
> people
> believed to do cures and who are thought to commune with the dead.

If they thought the witches had supernatural powers that could be used for
the good, and that the witches actually had powers that could strike any
enemy dead,,, forget it, they would be safe.

Give us some examples of people who are proven (not myths, proven) to be
able to do miracle cures and raise the dead, that have been put to death.



> --
> L8r,
>
> Uncle Clover
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~
> Who we were is meaningless in the face of who we are, and
> who we are is but a stepping stone to who we shall become
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~.

"Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
news:45886ae4$1_3@x-privat.org...
> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
> news:MGZhh.1347$X72.745@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>
>> "Juan Valdez" <juan@colombia.com> wrote in message
>> news:4588576a$1_1@x-privat.org...
>>> "Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
>>> news:JtYhh.1040$w91.282@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>
>>>> and your priests are mostly sick homosexuals and pedophiles who belong
>>>> in prisons.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh that's where your anger comes from....I hope the person who sexually
>>> assaulted you is being punished.
>>
>> Coward. You can't deal with the truth about your shit religion, so you
>> invent a lame reply like that.
>>
>
> What? Your anger towards the person who did that horrible thing to you
> is justified...Your anger towards me is not.

You're a coward who mocks people who actually have been victimized by
pedophiles.

I never experienced that, but many have from priests. The number of
successful lawsuits and prosecutions proves that.

You are scum and are a good representative of a degenerate religion that for
centuries has protected people who sexually molested children.