'Sudden' increase in anxiety.

Hi group,

Anyone had a sudden (over the space of a week or two) dramtic increase in
anxiety levels?

I've suffered from PAs over 10+ years, and I use alcohol to 'self-med'.
Recently I've ended up drinking lots more (I know it's not the answer) in
order to de-stress. However, even with greater in-takes of alcohol I'm still
more anxious. Sudden noises or talk of people being very ill can dramtically
increase my stress levels, as well as after meals now.

I can't put my finger on anything that has increased the levels of anxiety,
but I am getting a lot more 'this is it, this IS the heart attack", maybe
2-3 a day (as opposed to maybe 1-2 a month prior).

As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers, of
course.

Thanks,
and best wishes.

Tom Thumb, wrote:

>Anyone had a sudden (over the space of a week or two) dramtic increase in
>anxiety levels?

Certainly. I doubt that anyone with an anxiety disorder hasn't.

>I can't put my finger on anything that has increased the levels of anxiety

There's not always method to the madness; I believe that there can be natural
ebb and flow periods that are chemical/body related. I've experienced them in
the past.

In the past, when I'd go through such a period, my doctor would suggest upping
my xanax for a period of time. That would help. I can't say the same for
alcohol, as in time, it can 'increase' the anxiety. That in itself could be a
possible reason for this change - but I wouldn't bet on it.

My final answer is yes, panic people can have this boost in attacks without
provocation. I'll add that in most cases (not all) for me, there was something
going on that it took some time to put my finger on. My test is to take a very
close look at what takes over my thoughts as I'm trying to get to sleep, as well
as whatever might wake me (if that were to occur) as well as what thoughts greet
me as I wake up in the morning. It can be very telling.

E...

Tom Thumb, wrote:

>As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
>'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers, of
>course.

Try to remember this very old saying from Jewish Zen :

"Be aware of your body. Be aware of your perceptions. Keep in mind that not
every physical sensation is a symptom of a terminal illness."

"Tom Thumb" <billy@the.kid> wrote in message
news:sinOj.77797$5o5.65065@newsfe15.ams2...
> Hi group,
>
> Anyone had a sudden (over the space of a week or two) dramtic increase in
> anxiety levels?
>
> I've suffered from PAs over 10+ years, and I use alcohol to 'self-med'.
> Recently I've ended up drinking lots more (I know it's not the answer) in
> order to de-stress. However, even with greater in-takes of alcohol I'm
> still more anxious. Sudden noises or talk of people being very ill can
> dramtically increase my stress levels, as well as after meals now.
>
> I can't put my finger on anything that has increased the levels of
> anxiety, but I am getting a lot more 'this is it, this IS the heart
> attack", maybe 2-3 a day (as opposed to maybe 1-2 a month prior).
>
> As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
> 'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers, of
> course.

Hi Tom...

Excessive drinking will increase the anxiety something feirce. It then
becomes a viscious cycle of panic/anxiety... cure it with booze, which makes
the next attack of panic/anxiety worse, so cure it with more booze, etc.,
etc.

Bottom line is to seek help for your situation. Don't ask the bottle to
"cure" you.

I wish you well...

--

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln



>
> Thanks,
> and best wishes.
>

~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ wrote:
> "Tom Thumb" <billy@the.kid> wrote in message
> news:sinOj.77797$5o5.65065@newsfe15.ams2...
>> Hi group,
>>
>> Anyone had a sudden (over the space of a week or two) dramtic increase
>> in anxiety levels?
>>
>> I've suffered from PAs over 10+ years, and I use alcohol to
>> 'self-med'. Recently I've ended up drinking lots more (I know it's not
>> the answer) in order to de-stress. However, even with greater in-takes
>> of alcohol I'm still more anxious. Sudden noises or talk of people
>> being very ill can dramtically increase my stress levels, as well as
>> after meals now.
>>
>> I can't put my finger on anything that has increased the levels of
>> anxiety, but I am getting a lot more 'this is it, this IS the heart
>> attack", maybe 2-3 a day (as opposed to maybe 1-2 a month prior).
>>
>> As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
>> 'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers,
>> of course.
>
> Hi Tom...
>
> Excessive drinking will increase the anxiety something feirce. It then
> becomes a viscious cycle of panic/anxiety... cure it with booze, which
> makes the next attack of panic/anxiety worse, so cure it with more
> booze, etc., etc.
>
> Bottom line is to seek help for your situation. Don't ask the bottle to
> "cure" you.
>
> I wish you well...
>

i can't drink booze to control it either, others do though, it's horses
for courses, peanuts and bee-stings...

Tom Thumb schreef:
> Hi group,
>
> Anyone had a sudden (over the space of a week or two) dramtic increase in
> anxiety levels?
>
> I've suffered from PAs over 10+ years, and I use alcohol to 'self-med'.
> Recently I've ended up drinking lots more (I know it's not the answer) in
> order to de-stress. However, even with greater in-takes of alcohol I'm still
> more anxious. Sudden noises or talk of people being very ill can dramtically
> increase my stress levels, as well as after meals now.


That's the problem with alcohol. It's a great anxiolytic at times but
its drawbacks outweigh its advantages andf one ends up with aorse
anxiety and alcohol addiction. The best way would be to switch from
alcohol to a true medication (can you stop drinking or do you need detox
and AA etc.?) like an antidepressant and/or a benzo. Earlier alcohol
addiction is *no* counter-indication to prescribing a benzo which would
be the med of choice for sudden worsening of anxiety symptoms but I'm
afraid few doctors will agree (they're wrong of course ;-) They will
prescribe antidepressants and this is good too although they take up to
8 weeks to kick in (many people, however, feel better after 2-3 weeks).
I think it's time to stop drinking and find a psychiatrist yesterday.

Philip

"humble.life" <gn@t.com> wrote in message
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> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ wrote:
>> "Tom Thumb" <billy@the.kid> wrote in message
>> news:sinOj.77797$5o5.65065@newsfe15.ams2...
>>> Hi group,
>>>
>>> Anyone had a sudden (over the space of a week or two) dramtic increase
>>> in anxiety levels?
>>>
>>> I've suffered from PAs over 10+ years, and I use alcohol to 'self-med'.
>>> Recently I've ended up drinking lots more (I know it's not the answer)
>>> in order to de-stress. However, even with greater in-takes of alcohol
>>> I'm still more anxious. Sudden noises or talk of people being very ill
>>> can dramtically increase my stress levels, as well as after meals now.
>>>
>>> I can't put my finger on anything that has increased the levels of
>>> anxiety, but I am getting a lot more 'this is it, this IS the heart
>>> attack", maybe 2-3 a day (as opposed to maybe 1-2 a month prior).
>>>
>>> As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
>>> 'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers, of
>>> course.
>>
>> Hi Tom...
>>
>> Excessive drinking will increase the anxiety something feirce. It then
>> becomes a viscious cycle of panic/anxiety... cure it with booze, which
>> makes the next attack of panic/anxiety worse, so cure it with more booze,
>> etc., etc.
>>
>> Bottom line is to seek help for your situation. Don't ask the bottle to
>> "cure" you.
>>
>> I wish you well...
>>
>
> i can't drink booze to control it either, others do though, it's horses
> for courses, peanuts and bee-stings...

Yeah... and raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens!

--

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln

On 19 Apr, 15:26, "Tom Thumb" <bi...@the.kid> wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> Anyone had a sudden (over the space of a week or two) dramtic increase in
> anxiety levels?
>
> I've suffered from PAs over 10+ years, and I use alcohol to 'self-med'.
> Recently I've ended up drinking lots more (I know it's not the answer) in
> order to de-stress. However, even with greater in-takes of alcohol I'm still
> more anxious. Sudden noises or talk of people being very ill can dramtically
> increase my stress levels, as well as after meals now.
>
> I can't put my finger on anything that has increased the levels of anxiety,
> but I am getting a lot more 'this is it, this IS the heart attack", maybe
> 2-3 a day (as opposed to maybe 1-2 a month prior).
>
> As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
> 'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers, of
> course.
>
> Thanks,
> and best wishes.

Yeah, you are correct, booze aint' ideal. I drank for 6 months non
stop, but in the end it just leaves you feeling sick and anxious.

I am ranked #1 "heart attack survivor" in the whole of Belfast...maybe
even the whole of Ireland! ;-D

The 'faux heart attack thing' as my girlfriend calls it, is horrible,
if we could get rid of those we would be fine. But we can't do it
alone.

You need to see a Doctor...any Doctor, go to the free clinic if you
have to, it will be worth the wait and they will at the very least
point you in the right direction.

Good luck!

Don't forget to keep us posted!

-Joe

On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:00:14 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
<nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:

>"humble.life" <gn@t.com> wrote in message
>news:66v6veF2kh1d3U1@mid.individual.net...
>> ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ wrote:
>>> "Tom Thumb" <billy@the.kid> wrote in message
>>> news:sinOj.77797$5o5.65065@newsfe15.ams2...
>>>> Hi group,
>>>>
>>>> Anyone had a sudden (over the space of a week or two) dramtic increase
>>>> in anxiety levels?
>>>>
>>>> I've suffered from PAs over 10+ years, and I use alcohol to 'self-med'.
>>>> Recently I've ended up drinking lots more (I know it's not the answer)
>>>> in order to de-stress. However, even with greater in-takes of alcohol
>>>> I'm still more anxious. Sudden noises or talk of people being very ill
>>>> can dramtically increase my stress levels, as well as after meals now.
>>>>
>>>> I can't put my finger on anything that has increased the levels of
>>>> anxiety, but I am getting a lot more 'this is it, this IS the heart
>>>> attack", maybe 2-3 a day (as opposed to maybe 1-2 a month prior).
>>>>
>>>> As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
>>>> 'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers, of
>>>> course.
>>>
>>> Hi Tom...
>>>
>>> Excessive drinking will increase the anxiety something feirce. It then
>>> becomes a viscious cycle of panic/anxiety... cure it with booze, which
>>> makes the next attack of panic/anxiety worse, so cure it with more booze,
>>> etc., etc.
>>>
>>> Bottom line is to seek help for your situation. Don't ask the bottle to
>>> "cure" you.
>>>
>>> I wish you well...
>>>
>>
>> i can't drink booze to control it either, others do though, it's horses
>> for courses, peanuts and bee-stings...
>
>Yeah... and raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens!


bright copper kettles and warm wollen mittens! :-)

gigglz

On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:36:47 +0100, "humble.life" <gn@t.com> wrote:

>~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ wrote:
>> "Tom Thumb" <billy@the.kid> wrote in message
>> news:sinOj.77797$5o5.65065@newsfe15.ams2...
>>> Hi group,
>>>
>>> Anyone had a sudden (over the space of a week or two) dramtic increase
>>> in anxiety levels?
>>>
>>> I've suffered from PAs over 10+ years, and I use alcohol to
>>> 'self-med'. Recently I've ended up drinking lots more (I know it's not
>>> the answer) in order to de-stress. However, even with greater in-takes
>>> of alcohol I'm still more anxious. Sudden noises or talk of people
>>> being very ill can dramtically increase my stress levels, as well as
>>> after meals now.
>>>
>>> I can't put my finger on anything that has increased the levels of
>>> anxiety, but I am getting a lot more 'this is it, this IS the heart
>>> attack", maybe 2-3 a day (as opposed to maybe 1-2 a month prior).
>>>
>>> As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
>>> 'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers,
>>> of course.
>>
>> Hi Tom...
>>
>> Excessive drinking will increase the anxiety something feirce. It then
>> becomes a viscious cycle of panic/anxiety... cure it with booze, which
>> makes the next attack of panic/anxiety worse, so cure it with more
>> booze, etc., etc.
>>
>> Bottom line is to seek help for your situation. Don't ask the bottle to
>> "cure" you.
>>
>> I wish you well...
>>
>
>i can't drink booze to control it either, others do though, it's horses
>for courses, peanuts and bee-stings...


"ya put da lime in the coconut an drink it allll up"

gigglz

On 19 Apr 2008 08:06:42 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Tom Thumb, wrote:
>
>>As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
>>'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers, of
>>course.
>
>Try to remember this very old saying from Jewish Zen :
>
>"Be aware of your body. Be aware of your perceptions. Keep in mind that not
>every physical sensation is a symptom of a terminal illness."


HA!
where'd ya hear THIS one? :-) :-)

giggz

On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:26:32 +0100, "Tom Thumb" <billy@the.kid> wrote:

>Hi group,
>
>Anyone had a sudden (over the space of a week or two) dramtic increase in
>anxiety levels?


yup, it happens to all anxiety folks (i think any way).


>I've suffered from PAs over 10+ years, and I use alcohol to 'self-med'.
>Recently I've ended up drinking lots more (I know it's not the answer) in
>order to de-stress. However, even with greater in-takes of alcohol I'm still
>more anxious. Sudden noises or talk of people being very ill can dramtically
>increase my stress levels, as well as after meals now.


alcohol turns to sugar in your body. sugar makes you
hyper/irritable/wound up.


>I can't put my finger on anything that has increased the levels of anxiety,
>but I am getting a lot more 'this is it, this IS the heart attack", maybe
>2-3 a day (as opposed to maybe 1-2 a month prior).

you put your finger on it when you said, "i've ended up drinking lots
more".


>As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
>'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers, of
>course.
>
>Thanks,
>and best wishes.

you could maybe be superman :-) only your doctor could give you the
proper testing. unless, of course, your doctor does not stock
kryptonite :-) while you are at the doctor's office, ask him for some
medication to treat the anxiety, so you can get it under control.

lots of luck to you!!

gigglz

Gigglz, wrote:
>
>On 19 Apr 2008 08:06:42 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Tom Thumb, wrote:
>>
>>>As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
>>>'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers, of
>>>course.
>>
>>Try to remember this very old saying from Jewish Zen :
>>
>>"Be aware of your body. Be aware of your perceptions. Keep in mind that not
>>every physical sensation is a symptom of a terminal illness."
>
>
>HA!
>where'd ya hear THIS one? :-) :-)

Sayings of the Jewish Buddhist
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If t here is no self, whose arthritis is this?


Be here now. Be someplace else later. Is that so complicated?


Drink tea and nourish life; with the first sip, joy; with the second sip,
satisfaction; with the third sip, peace; with the fourth, a Danish.


Wherever you go, there you are. Your luggage is another story.


Accept misfortune as a blessing. Do not wish for perfect health, or a life
without problems. What would you talk about?


The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single Oy.


There is no escaping karma. In a previous life, you never called, you never
wrote, you never visited. And whose fault was that?


Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you
have? Bupkis.


The Tao does not speak. The Tao does not blame. The Tao does not take sides.
The Tao has no expectations. The Tao demands nothing of others. The Tao is not
Jewish.


Breathe in. Breathe out. Breathe in. Breathe out. Forget this and attaining
Enlightenment will be the least of your problems.


Let your mind be as a floating cloud. Let your stillness be as a wooded glen.
And sit up straight. You'll never meet the Buddha with such rounded shoulders.


Deep inside you are ten thousand flowers. Each flower blossoms ten thousand
times. Each blossom has ten thousand petals.
You might want to see a specialist.


Be aware of your body. Be aware of your perceptions. Keep in mind that not
every physical sensation is a symptom of a termi nal illness.


The Torah says, Love your neighbor as yourself. The Buddha says, There is no
self. So, maybe we're off the hook.

--

E...

love these! :-)
i do remember a few.
the "wherever you go, there you are" one, and the "breathe in breathe
out" one.

seriously, i have always been interested in Buddhism. if i wasn't
such a lazy arse, perhaps i could get off my hiney and take it a step
further?

now being a JEWISH Buddhist, that would be an interesting adventure
:-)

giggz


On 20 Apr 2008 17:55:24 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Gigglz, wrote:
>>
>>On 19 Apr 2008 08:06:42 -0700, Bear <Bear993not@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Tom Thumb, wrote:
>>>
>>>>As an aside, am I 'super-man'?, as I expect I've survived more
>>>>'heart-attacks' than any other human before! Except othe PA suffers, of
>>>>course.
>>>
>>>Try to remember this very old saying from Jewish Zen :
>>>
>>>"Be aware of your body. Be aware of your perceptions. Keep in mind that not
>>>every physical sensation is a symptom of a terminal illness."
>>
>>
>>HA!
>>where'd ya hear THIS one? :-) :-)
>
>Sayings of the Jewish Buddhist
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>If t here is no self, whose arthritis is this?
>
>
>Be here now. Be someplace else later. Is that so complicated?
>
>
>Drink tea and nourish life; with the first sip, joy; with the second sip,
>satisfaction; with the third sip, peace; with the fourth, a Danish.
>
>
>Wherever you go, there you are. Your luggage is another story.
>
>
>Accept misfortune as a blessing. Do not wish for perfect health, or a life
>without problems. What would you talk about?
>
>
>The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single Oy.
>
>
>There is no escaping karma. In a previous life, you never called, you never
>wrote, you never visited. And whose fault was that?
>
>
>Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you
>have? Bupkis.
>
>
>The Tao does not speak. The Tao does not blame. The Tao does not take sides.
>The Tao has no expectations. The Tao demands nothing of others. The Tao is not
>Jewish.
>
>
>Breathe in. Breathe out. Breathe in. Breathe out. Forget this and attaining
>Enlightenment will be the least of your problems.
>
>
>Let your mind be as a floating cloud. Let your stillness be as a wooded glen.
>And sit up straight. You'll never meet the Buddha with such rounded shoulders.
>
>
>Deep inside you are ten thousand flowers. Each flower blossoms ten thousand
>times. Each blossom has ten thousand petals.
>You might want to see a specialist.
>
>
>Be aware of your body. Be aware of your perceptions. Keep in mind that not
>every physical sensation is a symptom of a termi nal illness.
>
>
>The Torah says, Love your neighbor as yourself. The Buddha says, There is no
>self. So, maybe we're off the hook.