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Old 08-09-2008, 03:04 AM
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Default A therapist who ENCOURAGED me to commit suicide......

I had a therapist who was very mean to me about 15 years ago. When I
informed him of my intentions that I wanted to commit suicide rather
than try and discourage me he simple wanted to know HOW I had decided
to commit suicide. I told him I wanted to slit my wrist. He sat back
for a few seconds and said the most amazing things to me.

He told me that I had chosen a 'messy' way to commit suicide and
SUGGEST I use a method that was "faster" and involved "less blood"
This wasn't all either. After crying like a baby knowing my therapist
was actually playing with me wanting to commit suicide I just had to
ask him what ideas he had in mind. He just kept saying 'don't make it
messy' because it disturbs your loved ones when they find you.

Again he toyed with the idea that shooting myself in the head wouldn't
cause too much blood since you be dead within 5-10 seconds. HE KNEW
since he used to be a Police Officer in another city, he worked the
mental health department where they would talk to hostage takers and
people attempting to commit suicide like people threatening to jump
off bridges. He was well aware of what he was saying to me and I found
out years later that this wasn't a simple case of bad therapy but
rather it was outright malpractice.

I guess you can imagine how difficult it was to find any lawyer to
help me. Now after this trauma which haunted me for more than 10 years
I find out the guy died. Now no one is going to take responsibility
for what he did to me. How can I sue the agency he worked for after he
is now dead?

Anyway I hope none of you have to go through something like this. If
you do I'd suggest you hire a lawyer early on and not wait around like
I did. I didn't know what to do because I had never heard of this
happening to anyone else.

Just my life experience for what in the hell it's worth :-(


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Old 08-10-2008, 01:32 PM
~tanya
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On Aug 8, 6:25�pm, Always Learning <noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote:
> I had a therapist who was very mean to me about 15 years ago. When I
> informed him of my intentions that I wanted to commit suicide rather
> than try and discourage me he simple wanted to know HOW I had decided
> to commit suicide. I told him I wanted to slit my wrist. He sat back
> for a few seconds and said the most amazing things to me.


well why were ya there? if ya wanted ta whack yerself, i'm thinkin'
his office ain't tha most proficient joint in town ta do tha deed.

> He told me that I had chosen a 'messy' way to commit suicide and
> SUGGEST I use a method that was "faster" and involved "less blood"


yeah, that makes sense ta me.

evidently it did ta you, as well... or we wouldn't be havin' this
conversation, eh?

> This wasn't all either. After crying like a baby knowing my therapist
> was actually playing with me wanting to commit suicide I just had to
> ask him what ideas he had in mind. He just kept saying 'don't make it
> messy' because it disturbs your loved ones when they find you.


translation: he didn't buy inta yer bullshit, and yer presence here
is proof positive it was bullshit.

> Again he toyed with the idea that shooting myself in the head wouldn't
> cause too much blood since you be dead within 5-10 seconds.


WOW ! he even gave ya sane advice.

> HE KNEW
> since he used to be a Police Officer in another city, he worked the
> mental health department where they would talk to hostage takers and
> people attempting to commit suicide like people threatening to jump
> off bridges. He was well aware of what he was saying to me and I found
> out years later that this wasn't a simple case of bad therapy but
> rather it was outright malpractice.


malpractice? why?

yer alive........ i think you'd have a tuff time provin' malpractice.

you'd have an even tuffer time provin' it if *i* had been yer shrink,
cuz it'd take a shovel and lots'ah diggin' ta present my key witness.

it'd been embarrassin' ta you ta be alive while fightin' a malpractice
suit..

plaintiff: YOU, alive.

defendant: tha doctor that wouldn't take yer bullshit.


> I guess you can imagine how difficult it was to find any lawyer to
> help me.


not difficult at all.

> Now after this trauma which haunted me for more than 10 years
> I find out the guy died.


WOW ! he DIED? no way.

actually, dyin's very popular, people are doin' it in droves daily,
and it's a profitable industry, dead people. WHAT'S NOT TA LOVE?

> Now no one is going to take responsibility
> for what he did to me.


i'm confused. what'd he do ta you?

> How can I sue the agency he worked for after he
> is now dead?


file a suit.

if yer too dumb ta know that, i'm thinkin' you should die anyway.
stupid people breathin' my air pisses me off.

and whadda ya gonna sue 'em for? KEEPIN' YER ASS OUTTA JAIL FOR
ATTEMPTED MURDER? (suicide is illegal, btw.)

> Anyway I hope none of you have to go through something like this.


me too.

if any of you retard-o-mundos need ta kill yerself, e-mail me and i'll
link ya to'ah website on how ta do it proper and without tha "poor
poor pitiful me" bitch factor.

martyrs make me puke.

> If you do I'd suggest you hire a lawyer early on and not wait around like
> I did.


hmmmmmm.... thassa concept ! hire a lawyer BEFORE tha crime's
committed. (i'm now proud ta be from alabama where tha sheep are
nervous and tha good ole boy network ain't doin' so bad, itself.)

early on?

BEFORE ya whack yerself?

what'd be that legal eagle's job, pray tell.

"HIRE ME ! hire me BEFORE you whack yerself and you don't owe a cent
unless we recover damanges."

(manohman)

> I didn't know what to do because I had never heard of this
> happening to anyone else.


YEAH.... because they're DEAD ! they had tha guts ta PULL THA
TRIGGER, yer just whinin'

............ and hey... what's yer point?

YOU should be sued for abusing the medical system !!!!!!!! there're
people out there with no eyeballs and yer takin' their place in line
to getta suicide note from EPSTIEN'S MOTHER?????????

are you WHACK?

IF I WAS HALF THA WOMAN I WAS 30 YEARS AGO, i'd take a flame-thrower
to ya and say "DON'T FALL IN THA YELLOW SNOWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!!!!!"
cuz i'm a lot nicer'n i used ta be.

> Just my life experience for what in the hell it's worth :-(


my theory is: "if ya can't do tha last act of yer life correctly, yer
not apt ta do much right IN yer life so give'ah mexican yer job."
man... that HURT ta say that, but fuggit, at least they work and we
ain't gotta tie 3 innertubes tagether'n push'em back across tha rio
grande, they now own yachts ta service that lil arena !

i should sue YOU for bringin' that thought to muh mind, (them refried
pieces'ah shit gimme hives, PEDRO ! and nothin' good ever came outta
mexico but CHARRO !)

see? ya dun pissed me off in'ah political arena which i have no
business in cuz i dunno who's president, actually.

if ya wanna kill yerself, look it up on tha internet, i mean hell.....
it tells ya how ta make'ah bomb and shake-n-bake meth, SURELY, it'll
give ya that wherewithall ta whack yerself !

it's up ta you ta come, see, and conquer.

are ya dead yet?

if so, please don't respond.

if ya ain't, please don't respond.

either would FLIP MY SHIT !

i'd hate ta have ta have'ah one on one with sylvia browne, her
fingernails scare me.

(montel makes me hot, but thas another story for another day.)

yer goofy as fuck !

BANG !

(just keepin' it real.)

~tanya

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Old 08-10-2008, 07:31 PM
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~
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"~tanya" <Subnbellle@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 8, 6:25�pm, Always Learning <noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote:
> I had a therapist who was very mean to me about 15 years ago. When I
> informed him of my intentions that I wanted to commit suicide rather
> than try and discourage me he simple wanted to know HOW I had decided
> to commit suicide. I told him I wanted to slit my wrist. He sat back
> for a few seconds and said the most amazing things to me.


well why were ya there? if ya wanted ta whack yerself, i'm thinkin'
his office ain't tha most proficient joint in town ta do tha deed.

> He told me that I had chosen a 'messy' way to commit suicide and
> SUGGEST I use a method that was "faster" and involved "less blood"


yeah, that makes sense ta me.

evidently it did ta you, as well... or we wouldn't be havin' this
conversation, eh?

> This wasn't all either. After crying like a baby knowing my therapist
> was actually playing with me wanting to commit suicide I just had to
> ask him what ideas he had in mind. He just kept saying 'don't make it
> messy' because it disturbs your loved ones when they find you.


translation: he didn't buy inta yer bullshit, and yer presence here
is proof positive it was bullshit.

> Again he toyed with the idea that shooting myself in the head wouldn't
> cause too much blood since you be dead within 5-10 seconds.


WOW ! he even gave ya sane advice.

> HE KNEW
> since he used to be a Police Officer in another city, he worked the
> mental health department where they would talk to hostage takers and
> people attempting to commit suicide like people threatening to jump
> off bridges. He was well aware of what he was saying to me and I found
> out years later that this wasn't a simple case of bad therapy but
> rather it was outright malpractice.


malpractice? why?

yer alive........ i think you'd have a tuff time provin' malpractice.

you'd have an even tuffer time provin' it if *i* had been yer shrink,
cuz it'd take a shovel and lots'ah diggin' ta present my key witness.

it'd been embarrassin' ta you ta be alive while fightin' a malpractice
suit..

plaintiff: YOU, alive.

defendant: tha doctor that wouldn't take yer bullshit.


> I guess you can imagine how difficult it was to find any lawyer to
> help me.


not difficult at all.

> Now after this trauma which haunted me for more than 10 years
> I find out the guy died.


WOW ! he DIED? no way.

actually, dyin's very popular, people are doin' it in droves daily,
and it's a profitable industry, dead people. WHAT'S NOT TA LOVE?

> Now no one is going to take responsibility
> for what he did to me.


i'm confused. what'd he do ta you?

> How can I sue the agency he worked for after he
> is now dead?


file a suit.

if yer too dumb ta know that, i'm thinkin' you should die anyway.
stupid people breathin' my air pisses me off.

and whadda ya gonna sue 'em for? KEEPIN' YER ASS OUTTA JAIL FOR
ATTEMPTED MURDER? (suicide is illegal, btw.)

> Anyway I hope none of you have to go through something like this.


me too.

if any of you retard-o-mundos need ta kill yerself, e-mail me and i'll
link ya to'ah website on how ta do it proper and without tha "poor
poor pitiful me" bitch factor.

martyrs make me puke.

> If you do I'd suggest you hire a lawyer early on and not wait around like
> I did.


hmmmmmm.... thassa concept ! hire a lawyer BEFORE tha crime's
committed. (i'm now proud ta be from alabama where tha sheep are
nervous and tha good ole boy network ain't doin' so bad, itself.)

early on?

BEFORE ya whack yerself?

what'd be that legal eagle's job, pray tell.

"HIRE ME ! hire me BEFORE you whack yerself and you don't owe a cent
unless we recover damanges."

(manohman)

> I didn't know what to do because I had never heard of this
> happening to anyone else.


YEAH.... because they're DEAD ! they had tha guts ta PULL THA
TRIGGER, yer just whinin'

............. and hey... what's yer point?

YOU should be sued for abusing the medical system !!!!!!!! there're
people out there with no eyeballs and yer takin' their place in line
to getta suicide note from EPSTIEN'S MOTHER?????????

are you WHACK?

IF I WAS HALF THA WOMAN I WAS 30 YEARS AGO, i'd take a flame-thrower
to ya and say "DON'T FALL IN THA YELLOW SNOWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!!!!!"
cuz i'm a lot nicer'n i used ta be.

> Just my life experience for what in the hell it's worth :-(


my theory is: "if ya can't do tha last act of yer life correctly, yer
not apt ta do much right IN yer life so give'ah mexican yer job."
man... that HURT ta say that, but fuggit, at least they work and we
ain't gotta tie 3 innertubes tagether'n push'em back across tha rio
grande, they now own yachts ta service that lil arena !

i should sue YOU for bringin' that thought to muh mind, (them refried
pieces'ah shit gimme hives, PEDRO ! and nothin' good ever came outta
mexico but CHARRO !)

see? ya dun pissed me off in'ah political arena which i have no
business in cuz i dunno who's president, actually.

if ya wanna kill yerself, look it up on tha internet, i mean hell.....
it tells ya how ta make'ah bomb and shake-n-bake meth, SURELY, it'll
give ya that wherewithall ta whack yerself !

it's up ta you ta come, see, and conquer.

are ya dead yet?

if so, please don't respond.

if ya ain't, please don't respond.

either would FLIP MY SHIT !

i'd hate ta have ta have'ah one on one with sylvia browne, her
fingernails scare me.

(montel makes me hot, but thas another story for another day.)

yer goofy as fuck !

BANG !

(just keepin' it real.)

~tanya


Tanya??? Dude, I just love you!!! xoxox

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Old 08-13-2008, 02:29 PM
Inky
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On 9 aug, 01:25, Always Learning <noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote:

He achieved what he had to, didn't he? You are still alive. It's
called, reverse psychology..He simply confronted you with what the
effects would be of your act, had you gone through. You didn't, so it
was successful.

> I had a therapist who was very mean to me about 15 years ago. When I
> informed him of my intentions that I wanted to commit suicide rather
> than try and discourage me he simple wanted to know HOW I had decided
> to commit suicide. I told him I wanted to slit my wrist. He sat back
> for a few seconds and said the most amazing things to me.
>
> He told me that I had chosen a 'messy' way to commit suicide and
> SUGGEST I use a method that was "faster" and involved "less blood"
> This wasn't all either. After crying like a baby knowing my therapist
> was actually playing with me wanting to commit suicide I just had to
> ask him what ideas he had in mind. He just kept saying 'don't make it
> messy' because it disturbs your loved ones when they find you.
>
> Again he toyed with the idea that shooting myself in the head wouldn't
> cause too much blood since you be dead within 5-10 seconds. HE KNEW
> since he used to be a Police Officer in another city, he worked the
> mental health department where they would talk to hostage takers and
> people attempting to commit suicide like people threatening to jump
> off bridges. He was well aware of what he was saying to me and I found
> out years later that this wasn't a simple case of bad therapy but
> rather it was outright malpractice.
>
> I guess you can imagine how difficult it was to find any lawyer to
> help me. Now after this trauma which haunted me for more than 10 years
> I find out the guy died. Now no one is going to take responsibility
> for what he did to me. How can I sue the agency he worked for after he
> is now dead?
>
> Anyway I hope none of you have to go through something like this. If
> you do I'd suggest you hire a lawyer early on and not wait around like
> I did. I didn't know what to do because I had never heard of this
> happening to anyone else.
>
> Just my life experience for what in the hell it's worth :-(


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Old 08-26-2008, 04:57 AM
Always Learning
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:11:41 -0700 (PDT), "~tanya"
<Subnbellle@aol.com> wrote this stuff here :

>malpractice? why?


I can promise if what I said had happened to someone you love it
wouldn't be such a joke.

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Old 08-26-2008, 04:57 AM
Always Learning
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:11:41 -0700 (PDT), "~tanya"
<Subnbellle@aol.com> wrote this stuff here :

>if ya wanna kill yerself, look it up on tha internet, i mean hell.....


More advice for me that you'd never give to a loved one.

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Old 08-26-2008, 04:57 AM
Always Learning
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Default Re: A therapist who ENCOURAGED me to commit suicide......

In case you didn't know you're posting 2 replies to my post by using 2
different names.

and your advice is STILL something you'd never give to one of your
loved ones in person.

It's all funny to give out hurtfull advice to people on usenet but
you'd never do this to someone you love or for that matter in person.


well back to the keyboard hero machine for you.


On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:00:45 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
<nobody@myjunkaddy.com> wrote this stuff here :

>"~tanya" <Subnbellle@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:bc994f44-41b3-4d80-9a34-b21997ebcaca@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>On Aug 8, 6:25?pm, Always Learning <noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote:
>> I had a therapist who was very mean to me about 15 years ago. When I
>> informed him of my intentions that I wanted to commit suicide rather
>> than try and discourage me he simple wanted to know HOW I had decided
>> to commit suicide. I told him I wanted to slit my wrist. He sat back
>> for a few seconds and said the most amazing things to me.

>
>well why were ya there? if ya wanted ta whack yerself, i'm thinkin'
>his office ain't tha most proficient joint in town ta do tha deed.
>
>> He told me that I had chosen a 'messy' way to commit suicide and
>> SUGGEST I use a method that was "faster" and involved "less blood"

>
>yeah, that makes sense ta me.
>
>evidently it did ta you, as well... or we wouldn't be havin' this
>conversation, eh?
>
>> This wasn't all either. After crying like a baby knowing my therapist
>> was actually playing with me wanting to commit suicide I just had to
>> ask him what ideas he had in mind. He just kept saying 'don't make it
>> messy' because it disturbs your loved ones when they find you.

>
>translation: he didn't buy inta yer bullshit, and yer presence here
>is proof positive it was bullshit.
>
>> Again he toyed with the idea that shooting myself in the head wouldn't
>> cause too much blood since you be dead within 5-10 seconds.

>
>WOW ! he even gave ya sane advice.
>
>> HE KNEW
>> since he used to be a Police Officer in another city, he worked the
>> mental health department where they would talk to hostage takers and
>> people attempting to commit suicide like people threatening to jump
>> off bridges. He was well aware of what he was saying to me and I found
>> out years later that this wasn't a simple case of bad therapy but
>> rather it was outright malpractice.

>
>malpractice? why?
>
>yer alive........ i think you'd have a tuff time provin' malpractice.
>
>you'd have an even tuffer time provin' it if *i* had been yer shrink,
>cuz it'd take a shovel and lots'ah diggin' ta present my key witness.
>
>it'd been embarrassin' ta you ta be alive while fightin' a malpractice
>suit..
>
>plaintiff: YOU, alive.
>
>defendant: tha doctor that wouldn't take yer bullshit.
>
>
>> I guess you can imagine how difficult it was to find any lawyer to
>> help me.

>
>not difficult at all.
>
>> Now after this trauma which haunted me for more than 10 years
>> I find out the guy died.

>
>WOW ! he DIED? no way.
>
>actually, dyin's very popular, people are doin' it in droves daily,
>and it's a profitable industry, dead people. WHAT'S NOT TA LOVE?
>
>> Now no one is going to take responsibility
>> for what he did to me.

>
>i'm confused. what'd he do ta you?
>
>> How can I sue the agency he worked for after he
>> is now dead?

>
>file a suit.
>
>if yer too dumb ta know that, i'm thinkin' you should die anyway.
>stupid people breathin' my air pisses me off.
>
>and whadda ya gonna sue 'em for? KEEPIN' YER ASS OUTTA JAIL FOR
>ATTEMPTED MURDER? (suicide is illegal, btw.)
>
>> Anyway I hope none of you have to go through something like this.

>
>me too.
>
>if any of you retard-o-mundos need ta kill yerself, e-mail me and i'll
>link ya to'ah website on how ta do it proper and without tha "poor
>poor pitiful me" bitch factor.
>
>martyrs make me puke.
>
>> If you do I'd suggest you hire a lawyer early on and not wait around like
>> I did.

>
>hmmmmmm.... thassa concept ! hire a lawyer BEFORE tha crime's
>committed. (i'm now proud ta be from alabama where tha sheep are
>nervous and tha good ole boy network ain't doin' so bad, itself.)
>
>early on?
>
>BEFORE ya whack yerself?
>
>what'd be that legal eagle's job, pray tell.
>
>"HIRE ME ! hire me BEFORE you whack yerself and you don't owe a cent
>unless we recover damanges."
>
>(manohman)
>
>> I didn't know what to do because I had never heard of this
>> happening to anyone else.

>
>YEAH.... because they're DEAD ! they had tha guts ta PULL THA
>TRIGGER, yer just whinin'
>
>............ and hey... what's yer point?
>
>YOU should be sued for abusing the medical system !!!!!!!! there're
>people out there with no eyeballs and yer takin' their place in line
>to getta suicide note from EPSTIEN'S MOTHER?????????
>
>are you WHACK?
>
>IF I WAS HALF THA WOMAN I WAS 30 YEARS AGO, i'd take a flame-thrower
>to ya and say "DON'T FALL IN THA YELLOW SNOWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!!!!!"
>cuz i'm a lot nicer'n i used ta be.
>
>> Just my life experience for what in the hell it's worth :-(

>
>my theory is: "if ya can't do tha last act of yer life correctly, yer
>not apt ta do much right IN yer life so give'ah mexican yer job."
>man... that HURT ta say that, but fuggit, at least they work and we
>ain't gotta tie 3 innertubes tagether'n push'em back across tha rio
>grande, they now own yachts ta service that lil arena !
>
>i should sue YOU for bringin' that thought to muh mind, (them refried
>pieces'ah shit gimme hives, PEDRO ! and nothin' good ever came outta
>mexico but CHARRO !)
>
>see? ya dun pissed me off in'ah political arena which i have no
>business in cuz i dunno who's president, actually.
>
>if ya wanna kill yerself, look it up on tha internet, i mean hell.....
>it tells ya how ta make'ah bomb and shake-n-bake meth, SURELY, it'll
>give ya that wherewithall ta whack yerself !
>
>it's up ta you ta come, see, and conquer.
>
>are ya dead yet?
>
>if so, please don't respond.
>
>if ya ain't, please don't respond.
>
>either would FLIP MY SHIT !
>
>i'd hate ta have ta have'ah one on one with sylvia browne, her
>fingernails scare me.
>
>(montel makes me hot, but thas another story for another day.)
>
>yer goofy as fuck !
>
>BANG !
>
>(just keepin' it real.)
>
>~tanya
>
>
>Tanya??? Dude, I just love you!!! xoxox


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Old 08-26-2008, 04:57 AM
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:22:19 -0700 (PDT), Inky <InkyNL@gmail.com>
wrote this stuff here :

>He achieved what he had to, didn't he? You are still alive. It's
>called, reverse psychology..He simply confronted you with what the
>effects would be of your act, had you gone through. You didn't, so it
>was successful.


OH! He was doing me a favor? This is silly and I shouldn't have went
through hell for nearly 20 years after he said these things to me.
SIlly old me..silly old me with feelings and a heart...silly me.

Why I should dig him up again to thank him perhaps.

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