qksexndayhen@yahoo.com wrote:
> People commonly handle phobias in one of three ways. First, they
> completely avoid dealing with it because they believe it would be too
> painful to handle. Second, they try to "live with it" because they
> don't know how or where to seek help for the fear...or they can't
> afford it, or feel too embarrassed. Finally, some people do seek
> professional help, usually therapy, to help eliminate their phobia.
i feel'ah "my way or tha highway" speech comin' on. cuz so far,
kookysexinday, yer limiting options severely. do people deal with
hunger 3 ways or what. lemme guess... mickey d's, red lobster, or food
stamps. of course there's NO other options.
> Traditional therapy may work in some cases, however, it usually takes a
> long time, months or even years, and can be quite expensive.
takes about 10 minutes in some cases and there's free psych treatment
available in every city in the US.
> An additional problem is that some therapists will prescribe drugs such
> as tranquilizers or antidepressants to deal with the phobia. However,
> the drugs will only cover up the symptoms of a phobia - they don't
> address the cause.
kinda like high blood pressure? they prescribe drugs to deal with that
and it covers up the symptoms. and hey... all i want is the symptoms
covered up. ain't that the point in medication?
pain pills do the same thing. addressing the cause of the pain with a
patient with a broken ankle would be to possible address that patch of
ice he slipped on. i'd like to be in on that conversation. i'm
supposing that it the ice melted you'd address water?
do you talk to plants, by any chance?
is stewart smalley someone you can relate to?
> Furthermore, these drugs can have side effects that
> are worse than the phobia itself.
chemotherapy has side effects that are generally worse than the cancer,
itself.
> Taking drugs to help a phobia would
> be like trying to fix a leak in a pipe by putting your finger on the
> leak. It can stop the leak for a while, but it is not a good solution
> long-term.
so i should advocate for my Mom to get off her
insulin? it's just a
finger on her leak?
sorrrrrrrrrrrrry there, hot stuff, but you are about as informed as'ah
bag'ah hair.
medication can be and often is a lifelong agenda.
my ex had a liver transplant and he'll be on steroids for the rest of
his life. ya gonna tell ME, who took care of him for his entire
recovery process and was his sole connection with the transplant team
that these rejection meds introduced and prescribed for his lifetime as
a mere bandaid on the REAL problem? his barrage of meds were good for
"a while", but not a good long-term solution or are you hand-picking
and choosing the medication and the condition to suit your agenda?
shampoo's a temporary solution to the real problem. the real problem
is your fucking hair's dirty. what's the long-term fix for that, miss
finger on the leak hygiene gal? or do ya wask your hair daily and
intend to for the rest of your life.
maybe eating is a finger on a leak. a temporary solution for a
long-term issue. yup, that ole daily dining ain't gettin' nobody
NOwhere, i tell ya, that dang "temporary fix." how bout you tell me
how you make it through your life without that temporary solution.
i'm all ears.
> If you have enough patience, you could stay there long enough that
> there may not even seem to be a leak. But the moment you take your
> finger off, the leak comes back. The smart thing to do is call a
> plumber and have him repair or replace the pipe that is the source of
> the leak.
is that pseudo-plumber gonna provide you a permanent solution to that
nasty hair of yours? is he gonna provide you an everlasting
gobstopper-esque candy bar that'll last forever and you'll never have
to eat again????? oh wait. the everylasting gobstopper lasts forever,
it doesn't eliminate hunger forever.
is ole boy gonna cure cancer while he's at it or HIV or the common
cold, for that matter?
gurl... let me letcha in on a fact of life, k?
cuz you are worryin' me.
EVERYTHING IS TEMPORARY.
i'm thinkin' you may wanna seek'ah bit of therapy to deal with the
issue you have regarding permanency. tell me ONE thing that isn't
temporary, tell me ONE thing that isn't repaired, either mechanically
or physically or emotionally or structurally, etc., temporarily.
i'm waiting.
> Some therapists also use exposure or desensitization therapy, in which
> they try to help you relax and then expose you - either gradually or
> all at once - to the stimulus that creates fear.
and some farmers kick cows.
some firemen put fuel on flames.
some politicians fuck girls in little black dresses.
some veterinarians kill cats.
some chicks with hidden agendas make poor work of hiding them.
some chicks have sales pitches as effective as a soap bubble under a
cowboy boot.
some people aren't smart enough to know they're ignorant.
some people don't realize this and i can't even dig into the depths of
my personal mental or internet or encyclopedic or medical resources to
come up with even an obvious temporary solution for the ole "presenting
obvious fiction as fact disease."
> This process, to me,
> seems violent,
hockey games seem violent to me. i like violence. i stay.
you have the same options... go or stay.
> and while it may help you to cope with the fear, it does
> not actually eliminate the source of the fear
what's the difference? you cope with it or you eliminate it. either
way, the result is comfort, who gives a shit how you reach that soft
place.
eliminate the source of the fear would be your first-line tratment, eh?
let's say the Trade Center Bombing ignited fear in an individual. to
eliminate that fear would be to turn back the hands of time and change
the course of events on the day in question. any other solution would
be merely "coping."
let's pretend you're scared to get your tongue pierced... (god, i'm
lame.) do you think you can eliminate the source of that fear? what IS
the source of that fear? i swear to god i can't think of one and after
16 years and hundreds of thousands of tongue piercings i'd lay odds
that i'd have figgured it out, as stupid as i am, even... or do you see
"coping" as an option that is workable?
> - which is the energetic
> blockage.
could you be a bit more vague?
energetic blockage? are you saying fear blocks energy or is the
"source" of the fear that blocks energy? if it's fear that blocks
energy, you couldn't have dug a more appropriate grave to bury yourself
in. KUDOS. fear creates energy of major proportions. ask a
sky-diver. ask someone that just performed on Broadway. ask someone
that has just experienced a traumatic event. ask someone that just
found out they have 4 months to live. ask someone that has experienced
"paralyzing" fear. the paralyzing effect is chock-full of energy.
nowhere is it written that energy has to be pleasant, nor is pleasant
"across the board." one man's displeasure is another man's pleasure.
on the other hand, if the source of the fear is known or found out,
which is simple in some cases, possible in many, probable in some and
impossible in a certain percentage of cases. on rare, very rare
occasions is the source capable of being eliminated.
my Dad instills fear in me. should we eliminate him? eliminate his
behavior? eliminate my relationship with him? i mean.... what's your
answer there, sistah?
And in some cases this process can create additional trauma
> for the client.
yanno what creates trauma for me? NOT GETTING MY MEDICATION !
everything out of your mouth is open to being played on both sides of
the fence. you should really get a presentation with way less holes in
it. it doesn't become your agenda and i'm sure it's quite embarrassing
to prove yourself so utterly unworthy of having a voice in the field
you chose to sell your wares.
lemme help ya out here, k?
fear is never going to go away. for anyone. living with an underlying
fear that comes from helplessness is more frightening than pushing
through fear.
in my world... if it doesn't feel good, do something to remedy that.
if running a marathon does it, run like the wind. if taking medication
does it? :
opyaselfahcouplahbluez:: if bootin' heroin takes away the
feeling of fright via helplessness, BREAK OUT tha HYPOS, and be done
with it. of course i don't imagine heroin would eliminate fear,
fright, or eliminate angst, but i've been wrong once before and this
could be #2, i simply don't know.
again, fear is NOT GOING AWAY... EVER... if you were fearful of making
a speech at the local Chamber of Commerce or heading city council
meetings, that fear is, again, much less uncomfortable that running and
hiding from the fear as failure to face the fear creates a feeling of
helplessness, MUCH more difficult to overcome than the external fear of
public speaking. i know. i was president of the Chamber of Commerce
for many years and chaired the city counsil in several towns i had a
small business in. in 16 years the fear NEVER WENT AWAY. when it got
more comfortable, another fear was there to take it's place, and for
ALL OF US, there will be fear to confront or medicate or deal with
hoever we see fit for the rest of our born days.
for fear you aren't capable of managing without medication, take
medication. that's why god made scientists and researchers and even
Mistah Big..... for. medication is a bad thing in your book. how do
you feel about the creation of penycillin that eliminated diseases that
were once a death sentence? fast-forward researchers that have landed a
vaccine for HIV, even f/b AIDS, an anti-viral that is as close to a
cure as is humanly possible without it being approved as one. you are
so wide open that i could go on for days. this lengthy post has taken
me all of 9 minutes so far to type, it's such easy pickins.
by the way.... people in my little block of life or those i know with
anxiety do NOT seek therapy as a cure for anything, much less a phobia.
what most of us are seeking is managability with a ray of hope that
there's a "cure" for our respective conditions/disorders always looming
in the background of our hopeful minds.
regarding this fear issue you seem to be hawking in anxiety forums
among others, i'm sure, you can boil this all down very easily and
succinctly without losing any of your dignity. it's also the title of
a book i highly suggest you peruse.
FEEL the FEAR and DO IT ANYWAY.
do it with grace.
do it with vigor.
do it horiffied.
do it solo
do it stupid.
do it medicated.
just... do it.
that about sums it up
thank you for coming in here this morning, it's been a pleasure, don't
forget to tip your waiter/waitress and...
thank you for not smoking.
nite *
~t
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