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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
necros
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Someone please help me here. I am so screwed, I have a medical
procedure to do this Thursday to see if I have cancer (I've had traces
of blood in my urine for 5 months) and I'm so damn terrified to go. I
went in there once already and had to reschedule because I was
panicking so bad. The doctor wanted to give me Valium but I have two
bottles full of .25mgs of Xanax that a psychiatrist has been trying to
get me on.

I have been sitting here with a 1/2 .25mg next to me all night. I have
less than two full days to get myself to take xanax and convince myself
I can use it to get this procedure done. I am terrified of being put
under so I'm planning on taking the xanax so I can stay awake (it won't
be too painful supposedly).

I am almost just as terrified of taking the xanax and feeling out of
control. I'm scared I'll feel high. I'm scared I'll feel like I'm not
myself. I'm scared I'll have seizures. I'm scared I'll have scary
dreams. I'm scared if I take it tomorrow morning I'll get in a car
crash from being too tired.

I'm scared of all this stuff, someone please help me. All I need are
some positive experiences... please tell me I can start .25mg or half
of a .25 and still drive to work and to the hospital to get this done.
I just want to get this over with because I'm really freaked as is my
doctor that I might have cancer. If I don't do this, he won't see me
again and I'll need to find another specialist. I could be playing
russian roulette with my life but I'm too scared to help myself not be
scared with xanax.

Anyone, please help. I don't care about addiction, I just care about
not feeling high, being in control and not being too tired.

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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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necros wrote:
> I have been sitting here with a 1/2 .25mg next to me all night. I have
> less than two full days to get myself to take xanax and convince myself
> I can use it to get this procedure done. I am terrified of being put
> under so I'm planning on taking the xanax so I can stay awake (it won't
> be too painful supposedly).
>
> I am almost just as terrified of taking the xanax and feeling out of
> control. I'm scared I'll feel high. I'm scared I'll feel like I'm not
> myself. I'm scared I'll have seizures. I'm scared I'll have scary
> dreams. I'm scared if I take it tomorrow morning I'll get in a car
> crash from being too tired.


dude... ya may have cancer.

weigh yer angst.

take tha xanax... GOD !

> I'm scared of all this stuff, someone please help me. All I need are
> some positive experiences... please tell me I can start .25mg or half
> of a .25 and still drive to work and to the hospital to get this done.
> I just want to get this over with because I'm really freaked as is my
> doctor that I might have cancer. If I don't do this, he won't see me
> again and I'll need to find another specialist. I could be playing
> russian roulette with my life but I'm too scared to help myself not be
> scared with xanax.


tell me you ain't serious.

> Anyone, please help. I don't care about addiction, I just care about
> not feeling high, being in control and not being too tired.


lord.

take me now.

::shakin' head:::

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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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necros wrote:
> Someone please help me here. I am so screwed, I have a medical
> procedure to do this Thursday to see if I have cancer (I've had traces
> of blood in my urine for 5 months) and I'm so damn terrified to go. I
> went in there once already and had to reschedule because I was
> panicking so bad. The doctor wanted to give me Valium but I have two
> bottles full of .25mgs of Xanax that a psychiatrist has been trying to
> get me on.
>
> I have been sitting here with a 1/2 .25mg next to me all night. I have
> less than two full days to get myself to take xanax and convince myself
> I can use it to get this procedure done. I am terrified of being put
> under so I'm planning on taking the xanax so I can stay awake (it won't
> be too painful supposedly).
>
> I am almost just as terrified of taking the xanax and feeling out of
> control. I'm scared I'll feel high. I'm scared I'll feel like I'm not
> myself. I'm scared I'll have seizures. I'm scared I'll have scary
> dreams. I'm scared if I take it tomorrow morning I'll get in a car
> crash from being too tired.
>
> I'm scared of all this stuff, someone please help me. All I need are
> some positive experiences... please tell me I can start .25mg or half
> of a .25 and still drive to work and to the hospital to get this done.
> I just want to get this over with because I'm really freaked as is my
> doctor that I might have cancer. If I don't do this, he won't see me
> again and I'll need to find another specialist. I could be playing
> russian roulette with my life but I'm too scared to help myself not be
> scared with xanax.
>
> Anyone, please help. I don't care about addiction, I just care about
> not feeling high, being in control and not being too tired.


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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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When I was on Valium I took 30mg a day. During a brief period, I took .5mg
of Xanax 3-4x a day. I *never* felt "high", felt a "buzz", felt "out of
control", nor was I ever incapable of driving. Nor did I ever feel sedated,
although some people do get sleepy when they first start taking benzos.
Just have a back-up plan (like call a cab) in case you do.

The effective period for Xanax is only about 4-6 hours. Try taking the
..25mg today. If you work, you can wait until you get home. Don't wait
until tomorrow to try your first dose; try it in advance in an environment
where it won't matter if you do turn out to be sensitive -- a most unlikely
event. .25 is a low dose for most anxiety sufferers.

You don't *know* what you reaction to Xanax will be until you try it.
Right you you are catastrophizing the worst case, which almost never
happens.

Hope your tests don't indicate cancer.

Fig

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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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Hi, Seems no one here has experienced this phobia. I have and still do
when it comes to taking new medications. I just go very slow....taking
1/4 the amount recommended and work my way up. As it turns out, Xanax
is fine and works quickly for me, and you'll be glad you tried it.
BUT, if you have a problem with addiction, it can be hard to get off of
down the line. If you plan to take it once or twice for the procedure,
I think you'll be fine, in my opinion. If you normally don't require
as much medication as most people, it's good to try 1/2 Xanax even
during the day when you don't have to drive......just to see how you
react to it.

I never had a problem with it at all, though I didn't drive for a while
- to be sure. I'm very cautious like you. I'm also afraid to be put
under because I get sick to my stomach coming out of it, but if it's a
quick procedure then they would likely give you something short acting.
My husband was put under anesthesia, had a colonoscopy and walked
right out. Why don't you ask about that, but in the meantime, take
your half Xanax and don't worry. It's not going to hurt you.

I had to take Xanax when I was having panic attacks. I only took 1/2
and it brought me back. I was so thankful for knowing about Xanax. My
80 year old mother takes 1/2 Xanax when she has trouble getting to
sleep. If you experience any strange dreams, don't give up - it may
not be the Xanax. It could be your fears.

Try it during the day. I know how you're feeling..afraid of the
unknown, especially if you've had bad experiences in the past with
drugs or medications. Let me know on the forum if you'd like to email
me personally or I can email you. Personally I'd take Valium instead.
It has a longer half life, so you can get wean yourself off of it
easier.

About 4 years ago, I started having panic attacks. My doctor
recommended a psychiatrist who put me on Xanax along with Zoloft.
After 3 years I slowly went off Zoloft and Xanax and started taking
small doses of valium instead. The Zoloft only gave me headaches. I
started needing more Xanax....therefore the change. I don't want an
addiction. I've been off valium for a week, but something triggered my
anxiety, so I took a Valium. I am going to find a Cognitive Behavioral
Therapist today, as a matter of fact. That's why I saw your
posting....I'm online looking for natural help with a little Valium if
needed. Good luck and take 1/4 even, but take it today so you'll KNOW
how you will react. I have a feeling you'll be glad you did it.


necros wrote:
> Someone please help me here. I am so screwed, I have a medical
> procedure to do this Thursday to see if I have cancer (I've had traces
> of blood in my urine for 5 months) and I'm so damn terrified to go. I
> went in there once already and had to reschedule because I was
> panicking so bad. The doctor wanted to give me Valium but I have two
> bottles full of .25mgs of Xanax that a psychiatrist has been trying to
> get me on.
>
> I have been sitting here with a 1/2 .25mg next to me all night. I have
> less than two full days to get myself to take xanax and convince myself
> I can use it to get this procedure done. I am terrified of being put
> under so I'm planning on taking the xanax so I can stay awake (it won't
> be too painful supposedly).
>
> I am almost just as terrified of taking the xanax and feeling out of
> control. I'm scared I'll feel high. I'm scared I'll feel like I'm not
> myself. I'm scared I'll have seizures. I'm scared I'll have scary
> dreams. I'm scared if I take it tomorrow morning I'll get in a car
> crash from being too tired.
>
> I'm scared of all this stuff, someone please help me. All I need are
> some positive experiences... please tell me I can start .25mg or half
> of a .25 and still drive to work and to the hospital to get this done.
> I just want to get this over with because I'm really freaked as is my
> doctor that I might have cancer. If I don't do this, he won't see me
> again and I'll need to find another specialist. I could be playing
> russian roulette with my life but I'm too scared to help myself not be
> scared with xanax.
>
> Anyone, please help. I don't care about addiction, I just care about
> not feeling high, being in control and not being too tired.


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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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"necros" <mysticism@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Someone please help me here. I am so screwed, I have a medical
> procedure to do this Thursday to see if I have cancer (I've had traces
> of blood in my urine for 5 months) and I'm so damn terrified to go. I
> went in there once already and had to reschedule because I was
> panicking so bad. The doctor wanted to give me Valium but I have two
> bottles full of .25mgs of Xanax that a psychiatrist has been trying to
> get me on.
>
> I have been sitting here with a 1/2 .25mg next to me all night. I have
> less than two full days to get myself to take xanax and convince myself
> I can use it to get this procedure done. I am terrified of being put
> under so I'm planning on taking the xanax so I can stay awake (it won't
> be too painful supposedly).
>
> I am almost just as terrified of taking the xanax and feeling out of
> control. I'm scared I'll feel high. I'm scared I'll feel like I'm not
> myself. I'm scared I'll have seizures. I'm scared I'll have scary
> dreams. I'm scared if I take it tomorrow morning I'll get in a car
> crash from being too tired.
>
> I'm scared of all this stuff, someone please help me. All I need are
> some positive experiences... please tell me I can start .25mg or half
> of a .25 and still drive to work and to the hospital to get this done.
> I just want to get this over with because I'm really freaked as is my
> doctor that I might have cancer. If I don't do this, he won't see me
> again and I'll need to find another specialist. I could be playing
> russian roulette with my life but I'm too scared to help myself not be
> scared with xanax.
>
> Anyone, please help. I don't care about addiction, I just care about
> not feeling high, being in control and not being too tired.
>

I sympathize with you. I once had to be wheeled out of surgery just prior to
a procedure because of a panic attack. Later I was humiliated by my actions
and regretted the cancellation, but it was too late to proceed that day. I
had to reschedule it and go through several more weeks of anticipatory
anxiety. I wish I had a xanax to take prior to going to the hospital; I
could have gotten it over with the first time. I've had many more surgeries
and procedures since and I always take a benzo to relieve the anticipatory
anxiety.

As for Thursday's procedure, you really have no choice. If you have the
procedure you will either be greatly relieved knowing that you don't have
cancer; or, if you do have cancer, you will be properly informed and in a
position to get the appropriate treatment. The only alternative is to not
have the procedure and continue to panic over the possibility of cancer.
But, if you do that and actually have cancer, it will be left untreated and
continue to get worse. This is a no brainer - take whatever you need to
allow you to GET THE PROCEDURE!

Most everyone on this board is or has been on xanax or some other
benzodiazapine without any serious side effects. It is a very safe drug for
short term use. And many of us use it long term without negative effect,
though there is risk of dependence or addiction (I'm not totally clear on
the distinction). Nobody can assure you that you will be unaffected and able
to drive safely, especially when first starting the med. It may make you
drowsy. Arrange for someone to drive you or call a taxi and that will be one
less worry. Someone else gave you good advice: try the xanax today and see
how you react.

Good luck and let us know how you are.

Roscoe


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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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I am going to take 1/4 of a .25mg tonight.. I'm totally freaking out
about this already. My heart is racing. I'll let you know

Roscoe wrote:
> "necros" <mysticism@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162357215.785512.298110@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> > Someone please help me here. I am so screwed, I have a medical
> > procedure to do this Thursday to see if I have cancer (I've had traces
> > of blood in my urine for 5 months) and I'm so damn terrified to go. I
> > went in there once already and had to reschedule because I was
> > panicking so bad. The doctor wanted to give me Valium but I have two
> > bottles full of .25mgs of Xanax that a psychiatrist has been trying to
> > get me on.
> >
> > I have been sitting here with a 1/2 .25mg next to me all night. I have
> > less than two full days to get myself to take xanax and convince myself
> > I can use it to get this procedure done. I am terrified of being put
> > under so I'm planning on taking the xanax so I can stay awake (it won't
> > be too painful supposedly).
> >
> > I am almost just as terrified of taking the xanax and feeling out of
> > control. I'm scared I'll feel high. I'm scared I'll feel like I'm not
> > myself. I'm scared I'll have seizures. I'm scared I'll have scary
> > dreams. I'm scared if I take it tomorrow morning I'll get in a car
> > crash from being too tired.
> >
> > I'm scared of all this stuff, someone please help me. All I need are
> > some positive experiences... please tell me I can start .25mg or half
> > of a .25 and still drive to work and to the hospital to get this done.
> > I just want to get this over with because I'm really freaked as is my
> > doctor that I might have cancer. If I don't do this, he won't see me
> > again and I'll need to find another specialist. I could be playing
> > russian roulette with my life but I'm too scared to help myself not be
> > scared with xanax.
> >
> > Anyone, please help. I don't care about addiction, I just care about
> > not feeling high, being in control and not being too tired.
> >

> I sympathize with you. I once had to be wheeled out of surgery just prior to
> a procedure because of a panic attack. Later I was humiliated by my actions
> and regretted the cancellation, but it was too late to proceed that day. I
> had to reschedule it and go through several more weeks of anticipatory
> anxiety. I wish I had a xanax to take prior to going to the hospital; I
> could have gotten it over with the first time. I've had many more surgeries
> and procedures since and I always take a benzo to relieve the anticipatory
> anxiety.
>
> As for Thursday's procedure, you really have no choice. If you have the
> procedure you will either be greatly relieved knowing that you don't have
> cancer; or, if you do have cancer, you will be properly informed and in a
> position to get the appropriate treatment. The only alternative is to not
> have the procedure and continue to panic over the possibility of cancer.
> But, if you do that and actually have cancer, it will be left untreated and
> continue to get worse. This is a no brainer - take whatever you need to
> allow you to GET THE PROCEDURE!
>
> Most everyone on this board is or has been on xanax or some other
> benzodiazapine without any serious side effects. It is a very safe drug for
> short term use. And many of us use it long term without negative effect,
> though there is risk of dependence or addiction (I'm not totally clear on
> the distinction). Nobody can assure you that you will be unaffected and able
> to drive safely, especially when first starting the med. It may make you
> drowsy. Arrange for someone to drive you or call a taxi and that will be one
> less worry. Someone else gave you good advice: try the xanax today and see
> how you react.
>
> Good luck and let us know how you are.
>
> Roscoe


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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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Oh and I just want to say I really hate the fact that I get in a near
panic attack state just from anticipating taking a new medicine. It's
like I can't even get myself to take what would help me because I panic
about that too. I just hate the unknown.

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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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I just took it.. I'm totally nervous... seriously I need to chill out.
Ahhh damnit my heart is flipping and my mind is racing, this is pretty
much a full blown panic attack from just swallowing. I seriously want
to stick my fingers down my throat and make myself throw it up.

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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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"necros" <mysticism@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just took it.. I'm totally nervous... seriously I need to chill out.
> Ahhh damnit my heart is flipping and my mind is racing, this is pretty
> much a full blown panic attack from just swallowing. I seriously want
> to stick my fingers down my throat and make myself throw it up.
>


I would be surprised if in your present state of anxiety you even notice 1/4
of a .25 Xanax. Even a whole .25mg Xanax is just a moderate dose. But any
effects should be felt in the first 30-45 minutes. So after the first hour
you should know the limits to your reaction. Perhaps then you will calm
yourself enough to try the prescribed dose. You are receiving professional
medical advice from your MD and your psychiatrist. Unless you have reason to
doubt them, you should probably trust them and follow their
recommendations/prescriptions. I suspect that your own judgment may be
clouded by your anxiety level.

Roscoe


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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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The first 20-30 minutes were uneasy. I was really worked up, kept
pacing, got really sweaty and just overall nervous. Then a tiredness
kind of started sweeping over me and I felt the anxiety coming and
going for the next half hour. Then after the hour mark, I got quite
relaxed and was happy to feel the way I was. That's to say, I wasn't
really scared anymore.

I think it was a good experience for me to take it tonight. I also
think it's really going to help me tomorrow. I sat here trying to
freak myself out even with this low dose and I find it very very hard
to even summon any sort of fear like feelings. It's almost as if my
brain temporarily has lost the ability to truly feel crippling fear.
It's quite interesting.

I don't feel high, just tired. Maybe slightly dreamy but very very
minor. I'm very sensitive about my mental state and being in control
so I'm happy about feeling like I'm still me and not messed up.

The goal is to get myself to take a half tab tomorrow instead of a
quarter of .25mg. I think with the procedure itself, it'll be worth
taking that little extra so I'm even less scared. I'm thinking the
more loose and relaxed I am, the easier the test is going to be and the
less likely there could be complications.

Time will tell how my dreams and sleep are. I'm going to find out in
about 10 minutes. Hopefully this turns out to be an excellent
experience so maybe I can use it to face other anxiety / panic triggers
like flying. All these years I've been terrified of taking it.

My only concern now is how safe this is from reading all the seizure
stuff. I play a lot of games and games have seizure warnings. Will
xanax make me more likely to have seizures or is that only for people
who have addictions to high doses and then stop abruptly?

Roscoe wrote:
> "necros" <mysticism@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162432938.387347.289960@f16g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >I just took it.. I'm totally nervous... seriously I need to chill out.
> > Ahhh damnit my heart is flipping and my mind is racing, this is pretty
> > much a full blown panic attack from just swallowing. I seriously want
> > to stick my fingers down my throat and make myself throw it up.
> >

>
> I would be surprised if in your present state of anxiety you even notice 1/4
> of a .25 Xanax. Even a whole .25mg Xanax is just a moderate dose. But any
> effects should be felt in the first 30-45 minutes. So after the first hour
> you should know the limits to your reaction. Perhaps then you will calm
> yourself enough to try the prescribed dose. You are receiving professional
> medical advice from your MD and your psychiatrist. Unless you have reason to
> doubt them, you should probably trust them and follow their
> recommendations/prescriptions. I suspect that your own judgment may be
> clouded by your anxiety level.
>
> Roscoe


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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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Sometimes we just need to go ahead and proceed. All sorts of planning
can be useful in life, but ultimately we cannot control EVERYTHING, and
we can certainly manage risks. Initially when taking Xanax you might
be a little tired now & then, and it is no harm to call a taxi, or have
someone drive you to a hospital. I'm sure that once you're a little
less anxious you will be able to clearly see why you DO want this
procedure and that it really is folly to think we can prevent all
difficulty - we cannot. You cannot, I cannot, and this simply has to
be accepted. Managing risk is necessary, but it is not possible to
eliminate ALL risk. You can, for example, wear a seat belt in whatever
seat you sit in on the way to the hospital - an example of managing
risk. The hospital does hundreds of things to manage risk for you, so
you can have a safe procedure, so that you can manage whatever your
health situation really is. Obviously, this cannot be known without
having the procedure, or your MD would not have ordered it (more than
likely) and that's why they only let THEM order procedures and/or do
them, yet another example of managing risk on a larger scale.

Listen carefully to the things you tell yourself (self-talk) - and make
sure whenever it's negative that you mentally challenge it. Consider
all the ways you have managed various things in life before, and
realize that future things can also be managed by you, very possibly
better than you're crediting yourself for.

Avoid "what if" type thinking. You can "what-if" yourself right into
being insane, but there is no prize for coming up with the worst
possible thing in your thoughts about a potential problem. When
problems arise (which they sometimes will - which we cannot totally
control) you can handle them. Many times, NO problem will arise.
Remind yourself of these things as often as you need to. What if an
airplane hits your house? What if the taxi driver is a terrorist?
What if a terrorist breaks into the procedure area? What if the entire
universe explodes? Do you see how ridiculous this can become?

I think it is probably very important for really anxious people to have
the cycle of anxiety broken/stopped/arrested -whatever term you
like.... Often this is achieved by the short term use of medicines,
often medicines like Xanax etc. THE VAST MAJORITY of people who take
Xanax do not end up needing it for extended periods of time, but if you
do turn out to be one, you will not mind - trust me on this. Again, we
cannot control everything - including how long we might want to be
treated with medicines, or need to be.

You sound very anxious, and will probably be feeling much better very
soon by simply using the prescription you obtained (by managing risk,
and asking a doctor what to do, rather than simply proceeding blindly
..... see? You DO manage risk well ! ). The people who get into
trouble with Xanax are the people who derive fun from it - and this
population rarely sprouts from the "anxious crowd" - you will VERY
likely derive no such fun, and will simply feel a little better, a
little more focused, a little more able to say "whatever happens, I
will manage it, just like I always have done, and I can always improve
the way I do that, just like I can improve anything else if I want to".

Consider all the ways you ARE normal. Focus on evidence around you,
rather than possibility. Evidence can be obtained in all sorts of
ways, but education and information-gathering -- the discovery process
-- is often the most accurate. I will give you one piece of
information immediately: we are very capable of making ourselves
really anxious, therefore a reasonable inference can be drawn that we
can create other emotion states as well (like peace, for example).
Often, before we become better skilled at creation of emotion states on
our own, we use meds to help kick-start the process. It is this
process that you probably should focus a lot of energy on (the process
of how to think with less fear and worry) - rather than the process of
engaging and indulging worry-thoughts that will pop up. Give them no
value, challenge them, destroy their power - they do not even have
basis most all of the time.

Xanax will not take over the operation of what goes on inside your
head, it will merely allow YOU to do a somewhat better job of keeping
the whole thing running more smoothly. It may be more smoothly than
you have ever been able to run it, if you have been suffering with
anxiety for a long time. You do NOT have to continue doing that.

The world, and the majority of its inhabitants do not care how (or even
IF) we thrive and survive and enjoy our lives (within legal
parameters...) So why not just decide that it's GOING to be more fun
now, instead of less fun, and that you WILL have what you want, and
that you DESERVE, as much as anyone else, the opportunity to engage in
sane thinking, productive and goal-oriented thinking, and fun thinking.

As to cancer - my grandmother in New York had that when I was 12 (31
years ago) she is now 92, and while stiff and not as mobile as she once
was, she still enjoys her life - most of the time. She accepts (as
sane people do) that sometimes it is good, and at other times it's "not
so good", but that we just sort of have to say "yes" to the whole
package. I could cite numerous other treatment successes just from my
own lineage, but that seems unnecesssary. They are all still doing
fine. OH, and grandmaw, she even tried tamoxifen, as a study patient -
knowing nothing about what was going to happen. This paved the way for
others, and for FDA approval, and for countless mothers who will show
up at the holiday and enjoy their family. Interestingly, she is an
anxiety-ridden person, but can step up to the plate when the time comes
- and so can you. There is just as much likelihood that your test will
be negative, and then your only "worry" will be to pay the fees in a
timely manner.

I do recommend that you get a ride, take your prescribed dose 2 hours
prior to the test time, and try to be interested in what's going on
around you - all the marvel that has been created (with risk) by
bio-medical engineering people, healthcare educators, hundreds of other
entities, all of which helps thousands of people heal illness -
assuming you have an illness, which you don't even know yet (hence need
for discovery process here - getting the test).

I will think of you today, and know that you are going to do just fine.
Take the prescribed dose, ok? Just do that. It will give you power,
not take it away.

Kindly,
Gary

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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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"Will
xanax make me more likely to have seizures"

There are some drugs that actually do raise the seizure threshold, but
Xanax is not one of them.

"or is that only for people
who have addictions to high doses and then stop abruptly"

any dose of Xanax if taken for over a month or so will require taper,
and most of the people doing their taper off will not have been on
Xanax very long, and most are not "addicted". They have some physical
dependence, yes. That is not the same as "addiction".
Me personally? I'd rather have a physical dependence on a safe
medicine than to depend on a thinking style that made me unhappy.

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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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Well, I honestly cannot remember my dreams and I've awoken a bit more
tired than normal. I started to wonder if I really slept deeply or if
I was in a semi-sleep all night due to the tiredness. I wouldn't say
it's discouraged me from xanax, it just made me wonder if my brain
doesn't recharge as well with xanax floating around. Who knows, I
can't remember waking up once all night.

I feel the anxiety of the procedure coming back all morning full
strength. I'm getting very nervous again and a bit part of me just
wants to skip it and never get it done but it's really critical that I
do. I think xanax this afternoon will help with that again. I just
can't believe it's today, hopefully with xanax in me I can face the
fear and be strong headed. It just kind of sucks that I can't be
strong enough without a medication in me. I was really trying to find
the strength myself like I've always done since I was diagnosed with
anxiety / panic disorder. As one doctor told me, if I wasn't going to
be medicated I'd have to force myself to face my fears but this one
just isn't doable without help.

So I plan on taking 1/2 of a .25 at about 3pm CST. My procedure is at
5pm. I'll be driving myself and going alone. I think I'd be more
anxious if someone was with me because I really need to feel in
control. I'd feel like I HAD to and would be too embarrassed if I went
and couldn't do it with someone else coming. This way deep inside I
know I can chicken out even though I don't think I will. I just like
reassuring myself that I never have to do anything.

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions. My mother is extremely
proud that I did this because I've been somewhat crippled in some ways
by anxiety / panic disorder due to my avoidance behavior of my
triggers. So with your help, you made one of my mom's dreams come true
- to see me do something that may help me be normal again. I used to
be fearless, I really don't know what happened. Anxiety and panic
disorder hit me out of no where after I had quit smoking and to this
day I don't understand it.

I am heading off to work now but thanks again to everyone. I'm happy
to report that I didn't die, I didn't go into seizures, I didn't flip
out or anything else after the xanax hit. I can rest a little more
easy today when I take it and perhaps I've taken a first step into
becoming the man I used to be. I've always wanted to travel again and
maybe now I can with xanax.


Gary wrote:
> "Will
> xanax make me more likely to have seizures"
>
> There are some drugs that actually do raise the seizure threshold, but
> Xanax is not one of them.
>
> "or is that only for people
> who have addictions to high doses and then stop abruptly"
>
> any dose of Xanax if taken for over a month or so will require taper,
> and most of the people doing their taper off will not have been on
> Xanax very long, and most are not "addicted". They have some physical
> dependence, yes. That is not the same as "addiction".
> Me personally? I'd rather have a physical dependence on a safe
> medicine than to depend on a thinking style that made me unhappy.


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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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Well I can tell you that you aren't going to grow a pair of horns
protruding from your forehead from taking them. I've been on 2 mg of
Xanax three times a day for over ten years. They haven't impaired me
from driving or turned me into the last junkie from Hell. You'll have
some side effects when you first start taking them, but the side
effects only last for the first two to three weeks you begin taking
them, while your body gets used to them. If you are wondering about
what they'll do then wait and take them at the end of your work week.
You'll have the weekend to let you see how they work with you. And .25
mg is a very mild amount. I function on 6 mg a day with no problems.
I'd probably brick up the windows and never leave my house without my
Xanax. It calms my anxiety and helps me deal with my dread of being
around in public. I obviously can't give out medical advice since I'm
not a doctor. But I'm glad I made the decision to take it. It's worked
wonders for me.

necros wrote:
> Someone please help me here. I am so screwed, I have a medical
> procedure to do this Thursday to see if I have cancer (I've had traces
> of blood in my urine for 5 months) and I'm so damn terrified to go. I
> went in there once already and had to reschedule because I was
> panicking so bad. The doctor wanted to give me Valium but I have two
> bottles full of .25mgs of Xanax that a psychiatrist has been trying to
> get me on.
>
> I have been sitting here with a 1/2 .25mg next to me all night. I have
> less than two full days to get myself to take xanax and convince myself
> I can use it to get this procedure done. I am terrified of being put
> under so I'm planning on taking the xanax so I can stay awake (it won't
> be too painful supposedly).
>
> I am almost just as terrified of taking the xanax and feeling out of
> control. I'm scared I'll feel high. I'm scared I'll feel like I'm not
> myself. I'm scared I'll have seizures. I'm scared I'll have scary
> dreams. I'm scared if I take it tomorrow morning I'll get in a car
> crash from being too tired.
>
> I'm scared of all this stuff, someone please help me. All I need are
> some positive experiences... please tell me I can start .25mg or half
> of a .25 and still drive to work and to the hospital to get this done.
> I just want to get this over with because I'm really freaked as is my
> doctor that I might have cancer. If I don't do this, he won't see me
> again and I'll need to find another specialist. I could be playing
> russian roulette with my life but I'm too scared to help myself not be
> scared with xanax.
>
> Anyone, please help. I don't care about addiction, I just care about
> not feeling high, being in control and not being too tired.


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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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I'm taking my pre-procedure tab of xanax now. I'm doing 1/2 of a
..25mg. It's about double what I did yesterday but I'm thinking I'll
need that much. Hopefully this works out. I just need to relax for 45
minutes or so and it will be done.

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Old 11-09-2006, 02:04 PM
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necros wrote:
"Well, I honestly cannot remember my dreams and I've awoken a bit more
tired than normal."

Xanax initially causes some sedation, less than most drugs in its
class, and it's temporary. Like all other annoyances, that too can be
'managed'.

"I started to wonder if I really slept deeply or if
I was in a semi-sleep all night due to the tiredness."

Does it matter?

"I wouldn't say
it's discouraged me from xanax, it just made me wonder if my brain
doesn't recharge as well with xanax floating around. Who knows, I
can't remember waking up once all night."

That seems like a good thing to me.

"I feel the anxiety of the procedure coming back all morning full
strength. I'm getting very nervous again and a bit part of me just
wants to skip it and never get it done but it's really critical that I
do. I think xanax this afternoon will help with that again. I just
can't believe it's today, hopefully with xanax in me I can face the
fear and be strong headed. It just kind of sucks that I can't be
strong enough without a medication in me."

There are plenty of things that happen to people that really suck, but
they learn to accept them. There are also plenty of good things that
happen in life; it's really just one big package of stuff that happens,
some good, some not so good.

"I was really trying to find
the strength myself like I've always done since I was diagnosed with
anxiety / panic disorder. As one doctor told me, if I wasn't going to
be medicated I'd have to force myself to face my fears but this one
just isn't doable without help."

I can't fix my car without help most of the time, but I don't beat
myself up for that; and I can't think of any good reason that you
should either - sometimes we just need some help.
Somehow, you are capable of making this discernment, which seems good
(at least on the face of it). The thing with fears is that once we
realize we CAN manage whatever the situation du jour is, fears tend to
have less dominion and tend to feel sort of diluted.

"So I plan on taking 1/2 of a .25 at about 3pm CST. My procedure is at
5pm. I'll be driving myself and going alone. I think I'd be more
anxious if someone was with me"

Maybe.

"because I really need to feel in control."

That's really the core of much of this problem. We don't have control
over a whole lot, and want to, and "control of things" is really very
much an illusion. As we learn more and more about this whole "control"
thing, we tend to seek it less, realizing it's a somewhat futile
effort.

"I'd feel like I HAD to and would be too embarrassed if I went
and couldn't do it with someone else coming. This way deep inside I
know I can chicken out even though I don't think I will. I just like
reassuring myself that I never have to do anything".

You can reassure yourself all day long about that, but that is a false
message; there ARE plenty of things that you (and me, and everyone
else) HAVE TO DO, and certainly you are no exception. There are also
things you will HAVE to face, some of them are really, really
unpleasant, but it doesn't change the fact. This is why it would be
good to start working on this issue now, rather than ....let's say,
tomorrow. The whole concept of 'necessary suffering' is coming to mind
all of a sudden, as I write this to you. One prolific psych
author/physician suggested that it is the avoidance of necessary
suffering which is the cause of much mental illness.

"Thanks for all the advice and suggestions. My mother is extremely
proud that I did this because I've been somewhat crippled in some ways
by anxiety / panic disorder due to my avoidance behavior of my
triggers."

I'm glad that your mother is feeling good. How are YOU feeling? How
do these feelings affect your thoughts? How do your thoughts affect
your actions (or non-actions) ? The answers to those questions are of
most importance to you, and don't require response in this forum,
unless you think that would help you in some way.

"So with your help, you made one of my mom's dreams come true"

Well, technically, YOU did that.

"to see me do something that may help me be normal again."

There are probably many, many ways in which you ARE normal, and
'normal' is somewhat relative anyway. I prefer the idea of "adaptive",
as opposed to "maladaptive".

"I used to be fearless, I really don't know what happened."

I'm thinking that "fearless" is just as bad as "anxiety-ridden" is,
except perhaps for the simple fact that "fearless" isn't real - all
people have fears, it's about what we do with them - what we do in
response to them - that is going to play a huge role in determining the
quality of our lives. As to 'what happened', it may just be as simple
as *life happened* (I learned this from an excellent physician...) -
the trick is to have as much impact on your life as your life has on
you, or even more of the former. There are plenty of victims, some
practice it to an art - you do not have to be one of them.

"Anxiety and panic
disorder hit me out of no where after I had quit smoking and to this
day I don't understand it."

I'm sure there is some fascinating neurochemical explanatory
possibility here - others are better at that than I am - but you
probably relied on smoking for something, and didn't replace it. The
reason isn't terribly important - not smoking is really important, and
I'd urge you to remain smoke-free at almost any cost - the results of
tobacco use are disastrous, and you wouldn't wish them on anyone.
Focus on the fact that you took care of yourself, made a healthy
decision, and will manage the sequelae of it - "no matter what".

"I am heading off to work now but thanks again to everyone. I'm happy
to report that I didn't die, I didn't go into seizures, I didn't flip
out or anything else after the xanax hit."

Of course you didn't. A full half of the people with panic disorder
are unable to even keep a job - realize, be aware of, and capitalize on
your strengths. Also, try to listen to your own self-talk more. The
Xanax "hit" - sounds like a missile or bomb. It's a medicine, and it
didn't "hit" you, it simply "worked for you". As to not dying, most
dead people do not post here.

"I can rest a little more
easy today when I take it and perhaps I've taken a first step into
becoming the man I used to be."

Or maybe just "the person you are", who doesn't worry about everything
under the sun.

"I've always wanted to travel again and
maybe now I can with xanax."

Of course you can travel, and you certainly can take some Xanax if you
want to.

Consider a scale of "control", since that topic seems a germane one
here. Feelings get a value of "1", thoughts get a value of "10", and
behaviors get a value of "100". Think of them sorta/kinda like
percentage, but not exactly/precisely in that way. It's also a
somewhat multi-dimensional model, where you could equally substitute
the idea of "results" for the idea of control. We have very little
control over feelings/emotions, they vary sometimes by the minute, and
we really can't act on too many of them because if we did, we'd be
running around in circles all day long. Thoughts we have somewhat more
control over, and we can become better practiced at the process of
creating affirming and useful thoughts, as opposed to frightening and
self-defeating ones. Behaviors and Actions obviously are the thing we
have the most control over, and also the things that yield the highest
level of result (good or bad result still = result). This little model
certainly is rather blunt in many ways, and certainly does not cover
all aspects of those three items (emotions, thoughts and actions) -
e.g. feelings certainly do sometimes have a great deal of value,
depending on the context.... But.... you can use this to examine how
you are reacting to feelings and subsequent thoughts that are
destructive to you/your life. Consider getting some therapy.
Cognitive-Behavioral and Rational-Emotive are the two most studied and
seem to yield the best results, but I've been noticing that just about
any decent therapy will help someone to some extent; often quite a bit.
An interesting side-note about the feeling/thought/behavior model I
presented is that behaviors also have the highest VALUE, and thus when
refined to our advantage (from a psych standpoint) will often reduce
the number of negative feelings we have --- which is good, because they
only have a value of "1".

Consider buying this CD, and listening to it every day for a week, then
twice a week, then weekly for several months -
Title: "Feel the fear and Do it Anyway"
Author: Dr. Susan Jeffers
ISBN number: 0-7435-0918-8

You can have amazon.com ship this to you for less than 15 bucks - I
assure you it will be of value to you, it's amply apparent to me. Here
is a convenient link to ordering it, if you are pressed for time:

http://www.amazon.com/Feel-Fear-Anyw...891105-2628164

The abridged audio-book version is better, in my opinion, because it
cuts to the chase and the longer version tends to get distracting. It
costs $11.90. Another very good book is called Feeling Good, by Dr.
David D. Burns, costs $7.99 in paperback and is an excellent
examination of thinking styles, thinking errors etc. (ISBN number
0-380-81033-6). Much fear and anxiety is a direct result of thinking
errors, so the more you know about all that, the less of this problem
you will experience.

I know that I recommend these items to people all the time, and it may
be thought that I have some connection to the authors or something - I
assure you I do not-- as much as I might like to have them as lunch
buddies, I've never met either of them.

I hope that you will be feeling better soon. It is certainly within
your grasp, and we only get one life in this realm, so why not start
now? In the process, you can create much joy for yourself and your
family, and really the whole human community. (sorry, I tend to think
a little expansively at times...) Best wishes to you in your journey
on the road to wellness!

Kindly,
Gary

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Old 11-11-2006, 08:30 AM
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Hope everything went well with your procedure---QUESTION-- Why were you
afraid you were going to have a seizure from that xanax pill???

On Oct 31, 9:00*pm, "necros" <mystic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone please help me here. *I am so screwed, I have a medical
> procedure to do this Thursday to see if I have cancer (I've had traces
> of blood in my urine for 5 months) and I'm so damn terrified to go. *I
> went in there once already and had to reschedule because I was
> panicking so bad. *The doctor wanted to give me Valium but I have two
> bottles full of .25mgs of Xanax that a psychiatrist has been trying to
> get me on.
>
> I have been sitting here with a 1/2 .25mg next to me all night. *I have
> less than two full days to get myself to take xanax and convince myself
> I can use it to get this procedure done. *I am terrified of being put
> under so I'm planning on taking the xanax so I can stay awake (it won't
> be too painful supposedly).
>
> I am almost just as terrified of taking the xanax and feeling out of
> control. *I'm scared I'll feel high. *I'm scared I'll feel like I'm not
> myself. *I'm scared I'll have seizures. *I'm scared I'll have scary
> dreams. *I'm scared if I take it tomorrow morning I'll get in a car
> crash from being too tired.
>
> I'm scared of all this stuff, someone please help me. *All I need are
> some positive experiences... please tell me I can start .25mg or half
> of a .25 and still drive to work and to the hospital to get this done.
> I just want to get this over with because I'm really freaked as is my
> doctor that I might have cancer. *If I don't do this, he won't see me
> again and I'll need to find another specialist. *I could be playing
> russian roulette with my life but I'm too scared to help myself not be
> scared with xanax.
>
> Anyone, please help. *I don't care about addiction, I just care about
> not feeling high, being in control and not being too tired.


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