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Old 03-26-2007, 09:24 AM
ironjustice
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Default Anemia and iron in arthritis

This article shows .. clearly .. the TARGETING of the .. iron .. IN
those with arthritis leads to improved .. i-m-p-r-o-v-e-d ..
anemia ..

Clin Exp Rheumatol. 1986
Jan-Mar;4(1):25-9. Related Articles, Links


Antianemic and potential anti-inflammatory activity of
desferrioxamine:


possible usefulness in rheumatoid arthritis.


Giordano N, Sancasciani S, Borghi C, Fioravanti A, Marcolongo R.


In order to study the role of excessive synovial iron sequestration
in
the
production of anemia in rheumatoid arthritis (RA), the antianemic
efficacy and
anti-inflammatory effect of desferrioxamine administered in a
short-term
treatment (14 days), were evaluated in 10 patients suffering from
classic or
definite RA and hyposideremic anemia. Treatment with desferrioxamine
showed an
elevated urinary iron excretion, a significant increase of serum
iron,
UIBC and
hemoglobin, and a marked progressive decrease of serum ferritin. A
moderate
improvement of the pain intensity, morning stiffness and Ritchie's
index was
also observed. The results obtained suggest that excessive
reticuloendothelial
iron deposits occur in RA and that the iron uptake can be an
important
factor
in the production of anemia. Desferrioxamine seems to be useful in
the
treatment of patients suffering from RA and anemia, in order to
release
iron
from synovial tissue, reduce the inflammatory process and improve
anemia,
changing an anemia which is typically resistant to the martial
therapy
into an
iron-sensitive anemia.


Publication Types:
Clinical Trial


PMID: 3516495 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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Old 03-26-2007, 09:24 AM
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Clearly shows???? I don't think so little Tommy two-shoes.

The whole post is littered with sentences like seems to, may help,
suggests, possible usefulness, etc. That does not show CLEAR evidence
of anything. Just a possibility and the study was only done on a mere
10 people for a mere 14 days.

Sheesh, Tommy, go cut yourself and let go of some of that iron that is
clogging your brain!!!



.........possible usefulness in rheumatoid arthritis.

The results obtained suggest................


..........can be an important
factor

seems to be useful in the
treatment of.............

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Old 03-26-2007, 09:24 AM
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Hi Donna G.,,,,, As right as what you might say, I do not think I could
put up with one of his vindictive replies to you. To be honest,,, I just
do not need the anger. I think you know that you are dealing with a person
who can not help doing what he does. Lets just feel sorry for him and let
him rattle on in his world of compulsion. I am not saying that a warning
to new people should not be done every now and then. I hope you
understand.
Harv



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Old 03-27-2007, 12:55 PM
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On Mar 25, 3:55 pm, numbnuts wrote:

> This article shows .. clearly .. the TARGETING of the .. iron .. IN
> those with arthritis leads to improved .. i-m-p-r-o-v-e-d ..
> anemia ..


Define "improved anemia."

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Old 03-27-2007, 08:52 PM
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On Mar 25, 6:14 pm, DKGBee...@webtv.net (Donna G.) wrote:
Clearly shows???? I don't think so little Tommy two-shoes.

The whole post is littered with sentences like seems to, may help,
> suggests, possible usefulness, etc. <<


Heh .. heh ..

Again .. someone uses the .. tired .. old .. "may help,
suggests, possible usefulness, etc.." ..

Oldest .. attack .. in the .. book ..


>>That does not show CLEAR evidence

of anything. Just a possibility and the study was only done on a
mere
10 people for a mere 14 days. <<

All the patients .. 100% .. had recovery .. r-e-c-o-v-e-r-y ..

That would be .. what .. ?

"improvement of the **pain intensity**, **morning stiffness** and
**Ritchie's
index** "

>> Sheesh, Tommy, go cut yourself and let go of some of that iron that is

clogging your brain!!!<<

Real .. supportive .. stuff ..

Oh .. yeah .. almost .. forgot .. "improved .. anemia" .. in ALL ..
**100% ** .. of rheumatoid arthritis .. sufferers ..

Heh .. heh ..

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Old 03-27-2007, 08:52 PM
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Rusty the Singing Enema Nozzle <teamtanner@hotmail.com> timewasted:

> Donna G. wrote:


>> The whole post is littered with sentences like seems to, may help,
>> suggests, possible usefulness, etc.


> Heh .. heh ..


That embarrassed laugh is just so "you," Tommy Troller. Even you
know that your maunderings sound like lunacy.

> Again .. someone uses the .. tired .. old .. "may help,
> suggests, possible usefulness, etc.." ..


The argument is tired because it's called on to deal with your rubbish
so often. Let's see you post material which proves that any of the research
you cite was confirmed by scientists--or even noticed by real scientists.
Find something definite instead of your usual weasel-words. Otherwise
all you're doing is citing quacks who obfuscate their claims to avoid
legal prosecution.

> Oldest .. attack .. in the .. book ..


What would a subliterate like you know about books, Rusty?

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Old 03-27-2007, 08:52 PM
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>>On Mar 27, 9:19 am, "William R Thompson" <wrtho...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: What would a subliterate like you know about books, Rusty?<<

Well let's .. compare .. you and .. me ..

You and the OTHER .. **dckhds** .. ON .. this particular .. thread ..
say .. "the iron binding substances did NOT .. cause a significant
recovery in the patients" .. when in FACT .. **all** .. a-l-l .. the
patients .. did .. **better** .. b-e-t-t-e-r .. IN .. only .. **two
weeks** .. t-w-o / 2 .. weeks .. w-e-e-k-s ..

Hell I can't even work up a good spit .. in .. TWO weeks ..

Now .. who can't read .. OR .. comprehend ..?

Obviously .. you .. AND your buddies ..

Now why can't you SEE that you and your buddies ARE .. stupid .. ?

It is that big circle of life .. dealy .. you are too STUPID to
realize .. you ARE .. stupid ..

Heh .. heh ..

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Old 03-28-2007, 04:03 AM
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Rusty the Crossposting Crossdresser <teamtroller@hotmail.com> trolled:

> Now .. who can't read .. OR .. comprehend ..?


You. Everyone else is right, Rusty. You're a boring,
obnoxious, ignorant, lying troll with nothing but an
oversupply of ego. I won't feed you again until I
get a fresh shipment of iron-impregnated ground glass.

As for your scientific claims, your word is worth its weight
in hot air. Now turn around, bend over and get

PLONKED.

--Bill Thompson



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Old 03-28-2007, 01:09 PM
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On Mar 27, 11:47 am, numbnutz wrote::

> Now .. who can't read .. OR .. comprehend ..?


You're the only one who has a problem there, numbnutz.

You can't read.

You can't comprehend the medical crap you're posting.



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Born with canine and incisor teeth to rip apart, chew, and enjoy
MEAT.


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Old 03-28-2007, 01:09 PM
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On Mar 27, 11:47 am, numbnutz wrote:

> It is that big circle of life .. dealy .. you are too STUPID to
> realize .. you ARE .. stupid ..



There you go again, looking in a mirror and bragging about yourself.



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Born with canine and incisor teeth to rip apart, chew, and enjoy
MEAT.


.... If we're supposed to be vegetarian, why are animals made of meat?

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Old 03-29-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Anemia and iron in arthritis

Ironic Injustice (AKA: Rust Bucket, Two brain-cell Tommy, Troll Boy, etc.) DOES
serve a purpose (besides being the Ultimate Bad Example); no matter how bad
your headache or how long you've been without sleep, you still make more sense
and have a better connection to reality than he does.

Also, he's a perfect target for a vent; no matter what you say, it's not
slander or libel since he is even worse.
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