Arthritis

Quick Question: How does a doctor find out what kind of arthritis you
have? Blood test? MRI? Cat Scan? My FP just said arthritis. I have
had all of these tests.

I'm excited to have found this site. Thank you for your previous
posts.

NotYet1121

On Aug 24, 2:12 pm, NotYet1121 <NotYet1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Quick Question: How does a doctor find out what kind of arthritis you
> have? Blood test? MRI? Cat Scan? My FP just said arthritis. I have
> had all of these tests.
>
> I'm excited to have found this site. Thank you for your previous
> posts.
>
> NotYet1121

Welcome to the group, NotYet! As always, I'm sorry you have to be
here, but I'm glad you found us.

There are literally hundreds of kinds of arthritis. Some can show up
on special blood tests, others do not. Some of the ones that are
supposed to show up on blood tests don't. A Rheumatologist ("RD" -
doctor of rheumatology, which Medline says is the study of "any of
several diseases characterized by inflammation and pain in muscles or
joints") would be the best person to identify specifically what type
of arthritis you have and the severity/progress of the disease, as
well as underlying causes. An RD will use x-rays, blood tests, a past
medical history, and all sorts of other diagnostic tools to determine
what type of arthritis you have. It is very important to stop the
progressive joint destruction of arthritis. A rheumatologist will
best be able to help you with that, hopefully working in concert with
your other doctor(s).

Personally, I have Psoriatic Arthritis, which is related to the skin
condition Psoriasis. Basically, in my case, my immune system decided
a long time ago that my skin was an invader (like a virus or
bacterium) and started attacking it. After a while, my immune system
got tired of just attacking my skin & decided to go after my joints,
too, thus becoming PA.

The Arthritis Foundation website is a helpful resource, as is this
newsgroup. Here, we talk about our experiences with all the different
DMARD's (disease-modifying anti-rheumatic drugs), like Alieve,
Naprosyn, Ibuprofen, etc., that we have tried, as well as the other
ways we have tried (diet, exercise, acupuncture, massage, meditation,
etc.) to alleviate our symptoms. Depending on which type of arthritis
you have, there are people on the group who are practically experts in
the "been there, tried that" group. None of us are rheumatologists,
though. We come here to support one another through good times &
bad. We share our experiences with different medications, doctors &
life in general.

Anyway, now that I've been all long-winded & hopefully helpful, I will
sign off. Welcome to our sandbox.

Shannon/Plantmistress

PS: A good site is www.arthritis.ca and a great book for any type of
arthritis is the Arthritis Helpbook by Fries - a bible for me!

Kelly

"Plantmistress" <plantmistress@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Aug 24, 2:12 pm, NotYet1121 <NotYet1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Quick Question: How does a doctor find out what kind of arthritis you
>> have? Blood test? MRI? Cat Scan? My FP just said arthritis. I have
>> had all of these tests.
>>
>> I'm excited to have found this site. Thank you for your previous
>> posts.
>>
>> NotYet1121
>
> Welcome to the group, NotYet! As always, I'm sorry you have to be
> here, but I'm glad you found us.
>
> There are literally hundreds of kinds of arthritis. Some can show up
> on special blood tests, others do not. Some of the ones that are
> supposed to show up on blood tests don't. A Rheumatologist ("RD" -
> doctor of rheumatology, which Medline says is the study of "any of
> several diseases characterized by inflammation and pain in muscles or
> joints") would be the best person to identify specifically what type
> of arthritis you have and the severity/progress of the disease, as
> well as underlying causes. An RD will use x-rays, blood tests, a past
> medical history, and all sorts of other diagnostic tools to determine
> what type of arthritis you have. It is very important to stop the
> progressive joint destruction of arthritis. A rheumatologist will
> best be able to help you with that, hopefully working in concert with
> your other doctor(s).
>
> Personally, I have Psoriatic Arthritis, which is related to the skin
> condition Psoriasis. Basically, in my case, my immune system decided
> a long time ago that my skin was an invader (like a virus or
> bacterium) and started attacking it. After a while, my immune system
> got tired of just attacking my skin & decided to go after my joints,
> too, thus becoming PA.
>
> The Arthritis Foundation website is a helpful resource, as is this
> newsgroup. Here, we talk about our experiences with all the different
> DMARD's (disease-modifying anti-rheumatic drugs), like Alieve,
> Naprosyn, Ibuprofen, etc., that we have tried, as well as the other
> ways we have tried (diet, exercise, acupuncture, massage, meditation,
> etc.) to alleviate our symptoms. Depending on which type of arthritis
> you have, there are people on the group who are practically experts in
> the "been there, tried that" group. None of us are rheumatologists,
> though. We come here to support one another through good times &
> bad. We share our experiences with different medications, doctors &
> life in general.
>
> Anyway, now that I've been all long-winded & hopefully helpful, I will
> sign off. Welcome to our sandbox.
>
> Shannon/Plantmistress
>
>
>
>
>
>

Just a quick correction to Shannon's post (sorry Shannon but didn't want any
mis information out there and this one is an important one - might have been
a misprint on your part - that brain fog that all of us get.)

DMARD's include methotrexate, plaquenil, sulfasalazine etc - lots there.
They are not given for all arthritis's - but for RA, PA (psoriatic), AS
(anklyosysis spondolaprothry), etc. NSAID (non steroid anti inflammatory
drugs are the alieve, naproxyn, ibuprofen etc that are used to in
conjunction quite often for the above arthritis's but also first line for
most of the kinds of osteoarthritis and some of the other non inflammatory
arthritis's. Some kinds of osteoarthritis just to confuse the issue do
attack the joints and are inflammatory in nature and are treated with dmards
but in general the NSAIDS and some of the cox 2 meds that are still on the
market such as celebrex are used for osteoarthritis.

Blood tests can be markers of inflammatory actions such as sed rate, x rays
and mri's can spot the different kinds of degeneration of bone. Sometimes
where the inflammation is can tell more than the tests. For example if your
end joints of your fingers are the only inflamed area it is likely an
osteoarthritis. If you have certain kinds of urinary tract infections,
complete with sausage like fingers and toes you might have an arthritis
called reiters. So many factors and so many tests. Also due to the many
kinds of arthritis's and the way they present themself it can take several
years to see a pattern and decide exactly which kind it is. Quick action on
a good RD (rheumatologist) can usually get the inflammation under control at
least to begin with and help stop any joint damage. That is the reason
people with problems should get immediately to a rheumatologist for
diagnosis and not simply use some of the "natural" products instead of being
started on dmards if they are needed. We see many people who have regretted
not seeing a rheumatologist right away or delayed taking the meds they
suggested and have gone the "natural" or alternate root. I am not saying
that isn't valid but in conjunction with information and meds from the
conventional line. Finger joint replacements are unfortunately hard to do
and results are not great - same goes for feet and toes. The new meds are
incredible and in general stop this damage.

More information than you probably needed but don't give up. Also please
don't disappear without letting us know what happens. Be educated before
you go in, think the best, find out everything you can about what they tell
you and watch that any information you are looking at is the latest. Things
are changing so fast now in this field and information is outdated so
quickly. Don't take as gospel anything that is more than a year old. Also
in whatever you have exercise and diet is important - don't push to the
point of pain, heat and swelling but keep regular exercise and range of
motion (preferably under the care of a physio). A special diet is not
needed - just a balanced healthy one and one that will help to reduce weight
if you need to - that is especially important so more pressure is not put on
the joints.

Good luck and stick around - we aren't a bad group.

Kelly in BC Canada
"Plantmistress" <plantmistress@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1187989232.599607.56790@e9g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Aug 24, 2:12 pm, NotYet1121 <NotYet1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Quick Question: How does a doctor find out what kind of arthritis you
>> have? Blood test? MRI? Cat Scan? My FP just said arthritis. I have
>> had all of these tests.
>>
>> I'm excited to have found this site. Thank you for your previous
>> posts.
>>
>> NotYet1121
>
> Welcome to the group, NotYet! As always, I'm sorry you have to be
> here, but I'm glad you found us.
>
> There are literally hundreds of kinds of arthritis. Some can show up
> on special blood tests, others do not. Some of the ones that are
> supposed to show up on blood tests don't. A Rheumatologist ("RD" -
> doctor of rheumatology, which Medline says is the study of "any of
> several diseases characterized by inflammation and pain in muscles or
> joints") would be the best person to identify specifically what type
> of arthritis you have and the severity/progress of the disease, as
> well as underlying causes. An RD will use x-rays, blood tests, a past
> medical history, and all sorts of other diagnostic tools to determine
> what type of arthritis you have. It is very important to stop the
> progressive joint destruction of arthritis. A rheumatologist will
> best be able to help you with that, hopefully working in concert with
> your other doctor(s).
>
> Personally, I have Psoriatic Arthritis, which is related to the skin
> condition Psoriasis. Basically, in my case, my immune system decided
> a long time ago that my skin was an invader (like a virus or
> bacterium) and started attacking it. After a while, my immune system
> got tired of just attacking my skin & decided to go after my joints,
> too, thus becoming PA.
>
> The Arthritis Foundation website is a helpful resource, as is this
> newsgroup. Here, we talk about our experiences with all the different
> DMARD's (disease-modifying anti-rheumatic drugs), like Alieve,
> Naprosyn, Ibuprofen, etc., that we have tried, as well as the other
> ways we have tried (diet, exercise, acupuncture, massage, meditation,
> etc.) to alleviate our symptoms. Depending on which type of arthritis
> you have, there are people on the group who are practically experts in
> the "been there, tried that" group. None of us are rheumatologists,
> though. We come here to support one another through good times &
> bad. We share our experiences with different medications, doctors &
> life in general.
>
> Anyway, now that I've been all long-winded & hopefully helpful, I will
> sign off. Welcome to our sandbox.
>
> Shannon/Plantmistress
>
>
>
>
>
>

"Kelly" <kelly.e1@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> PS: A good site is www.arthritis.ca and a great book for any type of
> arthritis is the Arthritis Helpbook by Fries - a bible for me!
>
> Kelly
>

And drdocs site buttttt I have lost it again.

Harv

http://www.arthritis.co.za/Default.htm Another bible page for us. Lots of
questions to answer and give to your doctor.

Kelly

"Harvey R. Stone" <hrstone@swbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Kelly" <kelly.e1@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news1Jzi.90130$fJ5.51462@pd7urf1no...
>> PS: A good site is www.arthritis.ca and a great book for any type of
>> arthritis is the Arthritis Helpbook by Fries - a bible for me!
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>
> And drdocs site buttttt I have lost it again.
>
> Harv
>

I am one of those that has no blood work which proves that I have RA.
I have serum-negative RA. In fact I don't fit the Academy of R. list
either. Well I do now as I have had a boat load of surgery so that my
x-rays now show damage. lol
Took 15 years for me to be diagnosed. The diagnosis name has changed 3
times but treatment carries on. The DMARDs have changed with research
and the unraveling of the DNA coil.
I had to have my first wrist joint collapse and the surgeon go in to
operate to finally get the true diagnosis of RA. He sent tissue
samples to the lab and they came back as R. tissue.
If you have a RD and he/she has said arthritis, I assume he has also
said 'here is your first medication - DMARD'. The latest train of
thought which was not there when I was first diagnosed is to treat
hard and heavy right away to prevent the kind of damage this body has
seen.
I still get damage now - just had my left knee replaced in March and I
take Remicade, Arava, and have also had one round of Rituxan to help
the Remicade still work well. I also take an NSAID and 6mg of pred
every day. Then there are several other drugs I take for other
ailments as I age. I have a stubborn case and part of its stubborness
is how hard it was to diagnose. I surely hope you have a good RD
treating you. That is the key these days.
Duckie

On Aug 24, 1:12 pm, NotYet1121 <NotYet1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Quick Question: How does a doctor find out what kind of arthritis you
> have? Blood test? MRI? Cat Scan? My FP just said arthritis. I have
> had all of these tests.
>
> I'm excited to have found this site. Thank you for your previous
> posts.
>
> NotYet1121

"Duckie" <duckie412@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188008864.778075.145390@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>I am one of those that has no blood work which proves that I have RA.
> I have serum-negative RA. In fact I don't fit the Academy of R. list
> either. Well I do now as I have had a boat load of surgery so that my
> x-rays now show damage. lol
> Took 15 years for me to be diagnosed. The diagnosis name has changed 3
> times but treatment carries on. The DMARDs have changed with research
> and the unraveling of the DNA coil.
> I had to have my first wrist joint collapse and the surgeon go in to
> operate to finally get the true diagnosis of RA. He sent tissue
> samples to the lab and they came back as R. tissue.
> If you have a RD and he/she has said arthritis, I assume he has also
> said 'here is your first medication - DMARD'. The latest train of
> thought which was not there when I was first diagnosed is to treat
> hard and heavy right away to prevent the kind of damage this body has
> seen.


Just want to emphasize how important that hard and heavy part can be. (For
anyone who knows they have arthritis but want to "wait and see" on the good
drugs)

My neighbor was camping with his family last summer when he was
incapacitated by psoriatic arthritis. A particularly sudden and vicious
case. He couldn't even drive home. It was a couple of weeks for him to get
into a RD and get a firm diagnosis. His was so severe that at least it was
an easy and quick diagnosis. He was still unable to drive at that point and
was practically bedridden. He is self employed and not much in the way of
insurance, but they got him on one of the new generation DMARDS right away.
He couldn't work for several months, but then the meds started to kick in.
By Christmas he was back to work on a partial schedule, and by this spring
was back to working full time.

Without quick and effective treatment he could have been permanently
disabled.

Jo

Kelly --I have three finger joint replacements. Swanson replacements
done while I lived in Mass. They work well for me. I have one thumb
fusion which I hate. I have one wrist fusion and one wrist which has
been replaced twice now. And I have two total knee replacements. Left
ankle is trying to play and I was told by my knee guy that they have
an ankle guy here [now in CA] who does ankle replacements. Since I
dance, I had no desire to have an ankle fused so this is good news.
Think that is all the bionic parts now... if you don't count the lens
implant from the cataract surgery.
Duckie -- Bionic Duckie


...... Finger joint replacements are unfortunately hard to do
> and results are not great - same goes for feet and toes. The new meds are
> incredible and in general stop this damage.
>
> More information than you probably needed but don't give up. Also please
> don't disappear without letting us know what happens. Be educated before
> you go in, think the best, find out everything you can about what they tell
> you and watch that any information you are looking at is the latest. Things
> are changing so fast now in this field and information is outdated so
> quickly. Don't take as gospel anything that is more than a year old. Also
> in whatever you have exercise and diet is important - don't push to the
> point of pain, heat and swelling but keep regular exercise and range of
> motion (preferably under the care of a physio). A special diet is not
> needed - just a balanced healthy one and one that will help to reduce weight
> if you need to - that is especially important so more pressure is not put on
> the joints.
>
> Good luck and stick around - we aren't a bad group.
>
> Kelly in BC Canada

It is great to hear those finger joint replacements are working well for you
Duckie. We hear about so many feet and hand things that just don't work so
well - Walt's feet operations come to mind.

Bionic is the word for it Duckie. It always amazes me that you can still
ballroom dance after all this.

Kelly

"Duckie" <duckie412@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188009599.599105.156940@l22g2000prc.googlegr oups.com...
> Kelly --I have three finger joint replacements. Swanson replacements
> done while I lived in Mass. They work well for me. I have one thumb
> fusion which I hate. I have one wrist fusion and one wrist which has
> been replaced twice now. And I have two total knee replacements. Left
> ankle is trying to play and I was told by my knee guy that they have
> an ankle guy here [now in CA] who does ankle replacements. Since I
> dance, I had no desire to have an ankle fused so this is good news.
> Think that is all the bionic parts now... if you don't count the lens
> implant from the cataract surgery.
> Duckie -- Bionic Duckie
>
>
> ..... Finger joint replacements are unfortunately hard to do
>> and results are not great - same goes for feet and toes. The new meds
>> are
>> incredible and in general stop this damage.
>>
>> More information than you probably needed but don't give up. Also please
>> don't disappear without letting us know what happens. Be educated before
>> you go in, think the best, find out everything you can about what they
>> tell
>> you and watch that any information you are looking at is the latest.
>> Things
>> are changing so fast now in this field and information is outdated so
>> quickly. Don't take as gospel anything that is more than a year old.
>> Also
>> in whatever you have exercise and diet is important - don't push to the
>> point of pain, heat and swelling but keep regular exercise and range of
>> motion (preferably under the care of a physio). A special diet is not
>> needed - just a balanced healthy one and one that will help to reduce
>> weight
>> if you need to - that is especially important so more pressure is not put
>> on
>> the joints.
>>
>> Good luck and stick around - we aren't a bad group.
>>
>> Kelly in BC Canada
>

On Aug 24, 5:33 pm, "Kelly" <kelly...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Just a quick correction to Shannon's post (sorry Shannon but didn't want any
> mis information out there and this one is an important one - might have been
> a misprint on your part - that brain fog that all of us get.)

Thanks Kelly - I was writing at work & was a little distracted.

Shannon

Thanks for your support everyone. I will keep coming back here to read
all the advice and experience that is offered and try to wait patiently till
my visit with the RD. I tried a different pillow last night, one that
was much firmer and I think this helped my neck pain a little. I felt as if
I had a bit more sleep anyway. I wonder if my landlord would be
prepared to change all the door handles in the house?? LOL :-)

"jofirey" <jofirey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Duckie" <duckie412@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1188008864.778075.145390@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> >I am one of those that has no blood work which proves that I have RA.
> > I have serum-negative RA. In fact I don't fit the Academy of R. list
> > either. Well I do now as I have had a boat load of surgery so that my
> > x-rays now show damage. lol
> > Took 15 years for me to be diagnosed. The diagnosis name has changed 3
> > times but treatment carries on. The DMARDs have changed with research
> > and the unraveling of the DNA coil.
> > I had to have my first wrist joint collapse and the surgeon go in to
> > operate to finally get the true diagnosis of RA. He sent tissue
> > samples to the lab and they came back as R. tissue.
> > If you have a RD and he/she has said arthritis, I assume he has also
> > said 'here is your first medication - DMARD'. The latest train of
> > thought which was not there when I was first diagnosed is to treat
> > hard and heavy right away to prevent the kind of damage this body has
> > seen.
>
>
> Just want to emphasize how important that hard and heavy part can be.
(For
> anyone who knows they have arthritis but want to "wait and see" on the
good
> drugs)
>
> My neighbor was camping with his family last summer when he was
> incapacitated by psoriatic arthritis. A particularly sudden and vicious
> case. He couldn't even drive home. It was a couple of weeks for him to
get
> into a RD and get a firm diagnosis. His was so severe that at least it
was
> an easy and quick diagnosis. He was still unable to drive at that point
and
> was practically bedridden. He is self employed and not much in the way of
> insurance, but they got him on one of the new generation DMARDS right
away.
> He couldn't work for several months, but then the meds started to kick in.
> By Christmas he was back to work on a partial schedule, and by this spring
> was back to working full time.
>
> Without quick and effective treatment he could have been permanently
> disabled.
>
> Jo
>
>

NotYet1121 wrote:

> Quick Question: How does a doctor find out what kind of arthritis
> you have? Blood test? MRI? Cat Scan? My FP just said arthritis.
> I have had all of these tests.

X-rays, blood tests, palpation, PAIN (how long ago did it start, time of
day, where, duration), stiffness, range of motion measurements, limitations
on your activities (walking, keyboarding, dancing, preparing meals). And
yes, MRI, CT scans.

One clinic I visited in the early stage of AS even took cultures.

A doctor who just says "arthritis" is a quack with absolutely no training,
education or experience in diagnosing and treating the more than 100 types
of arthritis.

Granny, when I bought this house almost 7 years ago, my son changed all the
inside handles for me
so now I can just push with my elbow if I need to..
Should I ever move again (though that's very doubtful) I will surely invest
in changing them again.
Also had the locks changed to one key, and that really helps when you have
four outside doors.!
Gwen


"Granny V" <veeross@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:46d0a7ae$0$19339$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Thanks for your support everyone. I will keep coming back here to read
> all the advice and experience that is offered and try to wait patiently
> till
> my visit with the RD. I tried a different pillow last night, one that
> was much firmer and I think this helped my neck pain a little. I felt as
> if
> I had a bit more sleep anyway. I wonder if my landlord would be
> prepared to change all the door handles in the house?? LOL :-)
>
> "jofirey" <jofirey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5j9j1iF3t34hlU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Duckie" <duckie412@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1188008864.778075.145390@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>> >I am one of those that has no blood work which proves that I have RA.
>> > I have serum-negative RA. In fact I don't fit the Academy of R. list
>> > either. Well I do now as I have had a boat load of surgery so that my
>> > x-rays now show damage. lol
>> > Took 15 years for me to be diagnosed. The diagnosis name has changed 3
>> > times but treatment carries on. The DMARDs have changed with research
>> > and the unraveling of the DNA coil.
>> > I had to have my first wrist joint collapse and the surgeon go in to
>> > operate to finally get the true diagnosis of RA. He sent tissue
>> > samples to the lab and they came back as R. tissue.
>> > If you have a RD and he/she has said arthritis, I assume he has also
>> > said 'here is your first medication - DMARD'. The latest train of
>> > thought which was not there when I was first diagnosed is to treat
>> > hard and heavy right away to prevent the kind of damage this body has
>> > seen.
>>
>>
>> Just want to emphasize how important that hard and heavy part can be.
> (For
>> anyone who knows they have arthritis but want to "wait and see" on the
> good
>> drugs)
>>
>> My neighbor was camping with his family last summer when he was
>> incapacitated by psoriatic arthritis. A particularly sudden and vicious
>> case. He couldn't even drive home. It was a couple of weeks for him to
> get
>> into a RD and get a firm diagnosis. His was so severe that at least it
> was
>> an easy and quick diagnosis. He was still unable to drive at that point
> and
>> was practically bedridden. He is self employed and not much in the way
>> of
>> insurance, but they got him on one of the new generation DMARDS right
> away.
>> He couldn't work for several months, but then the meds started to kick
>> in.
>> By Christmas he was back to work on a partial schedule, and by this
>> spring
>> was back to working full time.
>>
>> Without quick and effective treatment he could have been permanently
>> disabled.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>>
>
>

I figured that but also figured I should correct it. Been there done that!
That is why we all stand beside each other and prop each other up!

Kelly

"Plantmistress" <plantmistress@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Aug 24, 5:33 pm, "Kelly" <kelly...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Just a quick correction to Shannon's post (sorry Shannon but didn't want
>> any
>> mis information out there and this one is an important one - might have
>> been
>> a misprint on your part - that brain fog that all of us get.)
>
> Thanks Kelly - I was writing at work & was a little distracted.
>
> Shannon
>

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:33:51 -0400, sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net wrote
(in message <de96e$46d0bc4e$45491df5$28354@KNOLOGY.NET>):

> Granny, when I bought this house almost 7 years ago, my son changed all the
> inside handles for me
> so now I can just push with my elbow if I need to..

I wanted to start doing that with the house we are in now, but then Puddin'
arrived and someone told me their cat had learned to open all the lever
handles in their house!

Does anyone know if it is possible to have a knob on one side and a lever on
the other side? That's what we'd need to provide people with some easier
privacy when visiting. I struggle with our bathroom doorknob, but Puddin'
pushes the door open if I don't shut it completely. It's one thing with just
Mike here, but doesn't work when we have visitors!

--
Nann
remove the Gator cheer to email me
Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare

Nann, on each of my outside doors, I have a knob to turn on the outside and
a handle on the inside. Works fine.
Gwen


"Nann Bell" <hanbellGOGATORS@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C2F839B80010970F12865430@news.east.ear thlink.net...
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:33:51 -0400, sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net wrote
> (in message <de96e$46d0bc4e$45491df5$28354@KNOLOGY.NET>):
>
>> Granny, when I bought this house almost 7 years ago, my son changed all
>> the
>> inside handles for me
>> so now I can just push with my elbow if I need to..
>
> I wanted to start doing that with the house we are in now, but then
> Puddin'
> arrived and someone told me their cat had learned to open all the lever
> handles in their house!
>
> Does anyone know if it is possible to have a knob on one side and a lever
> on
> the other side? That's what we'd need to provide people with some easier
> privacy when visiting. I struggle with our bathroom doorknob, but Puddin'
> pushes the door open if I don't shut it completely. It's one thing with
> just
> Mike here, but doesn't work when we have visitors!
>
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> Nann
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>

Nann Bell wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:33:51 -0400, sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net
> wrote (in message <de96e$46d0bc4e$45491df5$28354@KNOLOGY.NET>):
>
>> Granny, when I bought this house almost 7 years ago, my son changed
>> all the inside handles for me so now I can just push with my elbow
>> if I need to..
>
> I wanted to start doing that with the house we are in now, but then
> Puddin' arrived and someone told me their cat had learned to open all
> the lever handles in their house!

Cats, like children, can learn to open almost any type of door if they
aren't taught that closed doors are meant to keep them out of that room
at times.

I put lever handles on all the interior doors when I built our home 35
years ago and after the kids and cats were taught that a closed door
meant *Stay out* we didn't have any problems. :-)

> Does anyone know if it is possible to have a knob on one side and a
> lever on the other side?

Yes, but why bother?

> That's what we'd need to provide people with some easier privacy when
> visiting.

Lever lock sets can be bought with a push button lock or twist lock, I
recommend the push button lock for people with arthritic hands.

> I struggle with our bathroom doorknob, but Puddin' pushes
> the door open if I don't shut it completely. It's one thing with
> just Mike here, but doesn't work when we have visitors!

Keep a spray bottle in the bathroom where it is handy and after hearing
the Ssss of the spray a few times Puddin will learn to not push the door
open. Also a leaver handle makes it easier to close a door as well as
open one. :-)

GrampaHugs,
Alex,

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Gwen I have been in so many hardware stores since our move. Have been
looking at the pushbutton door locks. Used to be one that had a remote
like the car but I haven't seen that in the hardware stores. Does
anyone know if these work well. I hate keys and they hate me back.
Duckie


........
> Also had the locks changed to one key, and that really helps when you have
> four outside doors.!
> Gwen

Duckie wrote:
> Gwen I have been in so many hardware stores since our move. Have been
> looking at the pushbutton door locks. Used to be one that had a
> remote like the car but I haven't seen that in the hardware stores.
> Does anyone know if these work well. I hate keys and they hate me
> back. Duckie
>
>
> .......
>> Also had the locks changed to one key, and that really helps when
>> you have four outside doors.! Gwen

Hi Dickie,

Try at a larger home improvement store like lowes or Home Depot. Here is
a web site with Keyless Touchpad Lever Locksets;

http://www.homeproductsnmore.com/doo...setslevers.htm
if the link wraps;
http://tinyurl.com/2d2ysw

another place; http://www.gokeyless.com/?gclid=CNrx...FQYjWAod_0f-Yg

The mechanical type work when the power is out but the buttons can be
hard to push.

If there is a locksmith in your area check with them to see what they
recommend for security and ease of use.

GrampaHugs,
Alex,

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