Best Gimp Thing Ever!!!!

My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one that
is Chair Height. My knees have never been so happy!!!! It's a larger
unit, takes up more space, costs more money than a standard one, but is
soooo worth it. I highly recommend it to any one with arthritis.
It's been here for less than a week and already my girlfriend and my
cousin have both told their husbands that this is a "must have" item for
their homes too.

Ann

ANN M wrote:
> My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one that
> is Chair Height. My knees have never been so happy!!!! It's a larger
> unit, takes up more space, costs more money than a standard one, but is
> soooo worth it. I highly recommend it to any one with arthritis.
> It's been here for less than a week and already my girlfriend and my
> cousin have both told their husbands that this is a "must have" item for
> their homes too.
>
> Ann
>
When my Mom turned 85, her knees had really become a problem, so
we installed a 'high boy' toilet for her.
Have to admit, it's a treat for me to use as well, and I've considered
replacing one of the toilets here with one I could get up from without
"leaning" on something for a push.

Dorothy

In article <tIKdnTNFNt40-r7VnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@comcast.com>,
High Miles <2Blues17@comcast.net> wrote:

> ANN M wrote:
> > My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one that
> > is Chair Height. My knees have never been so happy!!!! It's a larger
> > unit, takes up more space, costs more money than a standard one, but is
> > soooo worth it. I highly recommend it to any one with arthritis.
> > It's been here for less than a week and already my girlfriend and my
> > cousin have both told their husbands that this is a "must have" item for
> > their homes too.
> >
> > Ann
> >
> When my Mom turned 85, her knees had really become a problem, so
> we installed a 'high boy' toilet for her.
> Have to admit, it's a treat for me to use as well, and I've considered
> replacing one of the toilets here with one I could get up from without
> "leaning" on something for a push.
>

I'm redoing my bathrooms. (Well, I'm doing one this year and I'll do the
other one next year.) I really want one of the higher toilets; my
parents have them in their retirement cottage, and it makes such a
difference. Since I'm getting a new toilet anyway, it only adds about
$100 to the price. My only worry is that a family with kids wouldn't
want to buy a house with a raised toilet in the main bathroom.

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

Alice Faber wrote:
> In article <tIKdnTNFNt40-r7VnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> High Miles <2Blues17@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> ANN M wrote:
>>> My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one that
>>> is Chair Height. My knees have never been so happy!!!! It's a larger
>>> unit, takes up more space, costs more money than a standard one, but is
>>> soooo worth it. I highly recommend it to any one with arthritis.
>>> It's been here for less than a week and already my girlfriend and my
>>> cousin have both told their husbands that this is a "must have" item for
>>> their homes too.
>>>
>>> Ann
>>>
>> When my Mom turned 85, her knees had really become a problem, so
>> we installed a 'high boy' toilet for her.
>> Have to admit, it's a treat for me to use as well, and I've considered
>> replacing one of the toilets here with one I could get up from without
>> "leaning" on something for a push.
>>
>
> I'm redoing my bathrooms. (Well, I'm doing one this year and I'll do the
> other one next year.) I really want one of the higher toilets; my
> parents have them in their retirement cottage, and it makes such a
> difference. Since I'm getting a new toilet anyway, it only adds about
> $100 to the price. My only worry is that a family with kids wouldn't
> want to buy a house with a raised toilet in the main bathroom.
>
Screw 'em.

It's your home now, and your time to live a comfortable life in it.

They can give the short leggers a little step stool, the way we did
when our kids were little.
It's unlikely to keep folks from buying a house they like.

Dorothy

t's an easy enough change that I, too, doubt it would keep folks from buying.
Alternatively, you could just put the raised seat in the bathroom you use
most often - or at least use most often during the most painful part of the
day.

--
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On Thu, 8 May 2008 21:35:00 -0400, High Miles wrote
(in message <p8KdnXmZjPMyN77VnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast.com>):

> Alice Faber wrote:
>> I'm redoing my bathrooms. (Well, I'm doing one this year and I'll do the
>> other one next year.) I really want one of the higher toilets; my
>> parents have them in their retirement cottage, and it makes such a
>> difference. Since I'm getting a new toilet anyway, it only adds about
>> $100 to the price. My only worry is that a family with kids wouldn't
>> want to buy a house with a raised toilet in the main bathroom.
>>
> Screw 'em.
>
> It's your home now, and your time to live a comfortable life in it.
>
> They can give the short leggers a little step stool, the way we did
> when our kids were little.
> It's unlikely to keep folks from buying a house they like.
>
> Dorothy
>

I

When I did the remodeling of the whole house (ugh never again, living in one
half while they work on the other half), I had everything that was replaced
done with handicapped people in mind. I've not hear any complaints from
visitors about the height of the toilets. My mom still had to put a riser
on hers, but at least it's not so far for her to get up. I did want to get
all remote controlled ceiling fans, but got rather complicated in getting
the switch for them, etc, so now we have to pull chains. One thing we do do
is, where the chain would be awkward to reach, is to just turn off the light
at the wall switch, if available. The only problem with that is, we can't
leave the fan on.


--
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"Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
news:afaber-077E61.20060308052008@reader2.panix.com...
> In article <tIKdnTNFNt40-r7VnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> High Miles <2Blues17@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> ANN M wrote:
>> > My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one
>> > that
>> > is Chair Height. My knees have never been so happy!!!! It's a larger
>> > unit, takes up more space, costs more money than a standard one, but is
>> > soooo worth it. I highly recommend it to any one with arthritis.
>> > It's been here for less than a week and already my girlfriend and my
>> > cousin have both told their husbands that this is a "must have" item
>> > for
>> > their homes too.
>> >
>> > Ann
>> >
>> When my Mom turned 85, her knees had really become a problem, so
>> we installed a 'high boy' toilet for her.
>> Have to admit, it's a treat for me to use as well, and I've considered
>> replacing one of the toilets here with one I could get up from without
>> "leaning" on something for a push.
>>
>
> I'm redoing my bathrooms. (Well, I'm doing one this year and I'll do the
> other one next year.) I really want one of the higher toilets; my
> parents have them in their retirement cottage, and it makes such a
> difference. Since I'm getting a new toilet anyway, it only adds about
> $100 to the price. My only worry is that a family with kids wouldn't
> want to buy a house with a raised toilet in the main bathroom.
>
> --
> "[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
> This, apparently, upsets the fools."
> ---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

A year ago, my son replaced one of mine and we used a "comfort
height". It is convenient for me and I don't remember it being more
than a few dollars more!

Vickie B.

I remember when Duckie got her bathroom remodled when they still lived
in MA and she did lots of investigating before chosing one that was
raised, but not so much that most people would even really notice. She
didn't want one that was too high. There are so many options out there
now adays!

And, as far as children go, my parents have two raised toilets and both
are raised considerable, and the grandkids as they were getting potty
trained, just used a little step stool. No big deal for them and then
they would slide the step stool over to the sink so they could wash up
afterwards. Worked well for all concerned.

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call them FRIENDS......


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"Nann Bell" <hanbellGOGATORS@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C449C47600529F51F0284550@news.east.ear thlink.net...
t's an easy enough change that I, too, doubt it would keep folks from
buying.
Alternatively, you could just put the raised seat in the bathroom you use
most often - or at least use most often during the most painful part of the
day.

--
Nann

i, too, agree. it wouldn't stop anyone with half a brain from buying a
house. toilets are not that big a deal to change at all. i even did it
once, all by myself. it was just a matter of turning off the water main and
the supply line water, flushing the water out of the tank, uncoupling the
old supply line (letting the residual water drain into a bucket or dishpan)
and removing base nuts, scraping out the old wax donut, popping in a new wax
donut, positioning the new toilet, tightening up the new nuts on the bolts
with an alternating and equal number of turns/equal pressure (so you don't
crack the base), putting the caps on the nuts, reconnecting a new supply
line (with some teflon tape on the threads, so it doesn't leak) and turning
on the water main and the supply line water again. that's all there is to
it. definitely does not take genius to do.

and heck, didn't most of us who grew up in the '40s and '50s have little
step stools anyway, when we were children, so we could use the comode? i
know we did.

kate
(who is now thinking about a new and higher toilet for here. sounds like a
great idea and a back saver to me! i often jar my back sitting down, when
i'm stoved up. but i'll let my son install the new one, this time.<smile>)


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On Thu, 8 May 2008 21:35:00 -0400, High Miles wrote
(in message <p8KdnXmZjPMyN77VnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast.com>):

> Alice Faber wrote:
>> I'm redoing my bathrooms. (Well, I'm doing one this year and I'll do the
>> other one next year.) I really want one of the higher toilets; my
>> parents have them in their retirement cottage, and it makes such a
>> difference. Since I'm getting a new toilet anyway, it only adds about
>> $100 to the price. My only worry is that a family with kids wouldn't
>> want to buy a house with a raised toilet in the main bathroom.
>>
> Screw 'em.
>
> It's your home now, and your time to live a comfortable life in it.
>
> They can give the short leggers a little step stool, the way we did
> when our kids were little.
> It's unlikely to keep folks from buying a house they like.
>
> Dorothy
>

I

The new toilet is only about 2 inches higher than a standard one. The
seat extenders that you can add to the present toilet are more like 4
inches higher if I remember correctly. I wouldn't think that anyone
looking to buy a house would pay much attention to it unless they were
gimps too.
Ann

In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:

> The new toilet is only about 2 inches higher than a standard one. The
> seat extenders that you can add to the present toilet are more like 4
> inches higher if I remember correctly. I wouldn't think that anyone
> looking to buy a house would pay much attention to it unless they were
> gimps too.
> Ann

OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model today.

Now, does anybody have any thoughts on white vs cream/beige?

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

"Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:

> The new toilet is only about 2 inches higher than a standard one. The
> seat extenders that you can add to the present toilet are more like 4
> inches higher if I remember correctly. I wouldn't think that anyone
> looking to buy a house would pay much attention to it unless they were
> gimps too.
> Ann

OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model today.

Now, does anybody have any thoughts on white vs cream/beige?


uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first try to
match those as closely in color as possible.

only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color of
either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that is
not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion, for the
almost 2 cents it's worth.


kate

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

In article <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:

> "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
> In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
> ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:
>
> > The new toilet is only about 2 inches higher than a standard one. The
> > seat extenders that you can add to the present toilet are more like 4
> > inches higher if I remember correctly. I wouldn't think that anyone
> > looking to buy a house would pay much attention to it unless they were
> > gimps too.
> > Ann
>
> OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model today.
>
> Now, does anybody have any thoughts on white vs cream/beige?
>
>
> uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first try to
> match those as closely in color as possible.
>
> only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color of
> either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
> formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that is
> not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
> permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion, for the
> almost 2 cents it's worth.
>

Tub is white, with tiling around it that is off-white with speckles. The
new floor is a light beige tile, and the vanity top is a multi-colored
with white, beige, and specks of brown and orange. Right now, towels and
mats are burgundy and rose, but that can change; I've held off on new
towels until I did the rest. And I haven't chosen paint for the walls
yet. Right now it's pink, but I'm not going to stick with that. It will
probably be beige or a light melon.

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

"Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
news:afaber-37B0D2.14052710052008@reader2.panix.com...
In article <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:

> "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
> In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
> ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:
>
> > The new toilet is only about 2 inches higher than a standard one. The
> > seat extenders that you can add to the present toilet are more like 4
> > inches higher if I remember correctly. I wouldn't think that anyone
> > looking to buy a house would pay much attention to it unless they were
> > gimps too.
> > Ann
>
> OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model today.
>
> Now, does anybody have any thoughts on white vs cream/beige?
>
>
> uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first try to
> match those as closely in color as possible.
>
> only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color
> of
> either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
> formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that
> is
> not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
> permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion, for
> the
> almost 2 cents it's worth.
>

Tub is white, with tiling around it that is off-white with speckles. The
new floor is a light beige tile, and the vanity top is a multi-colored
with white, beige, and specks of brown and orange. Right now, towels and
mats are burgundy and rose, but that can change; I've held off on new
towels until I did the rest. And I haven't chosen paint for the walls
yet. Right now it's pink, but I'm not going to stick with that. It will
probably be beige or a light melon.

***as you've already likely surmised, you want to match permanent to
permanent. non-permanent colors are considered to be things like
paint/wallpaper, accents, accessories and flooring (i know. i thought that
flooring should be considered permanent, too.<smile>). tile falls into the
either/or catagory, depending upon application.

if your sink itself, not just the top, is white like your tub, then i'd
stick with white for the commode. if it's a one-piece top and sink, i think
you might get away with a beige toilet, if beige is the dominant color of
the one-piece sink/top, also depending on the tub tiles' dominant color.

however, its easier to mismatch permanent fixtures and still tie it all
together, if the toilet is on the opposite wall to the sink and tub and if
the bathroom is large enough. one of my bathrooms is roughly 8'x17' and my
commode and bidet are on the opposing wall. so i could get away with white
for those, even though the shower stall, one-piece double sink and jacuzzi
tub are dominantly beige. i was also careful to match all the metal
fixtures and accents (including toilet flushing handle), visible toilet
supply line, and the style line of the bases (the shape that touches the
floor) of both the bidet and toilet, to help tie it all together.

hope that helps and that i haven't confused you. i'm not very good at
"telling", better at "showing".<smile>

kate

--
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This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

In article <VdSdnTnvJvMcaLjVnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:

> "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:afaber-37B0D2.14052710052008@reader2.panix.com...
> In article <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:
>
> > "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
> > In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
> > ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:
> >
> > > The new toilet is only about 2 inches higher than a standard one. The
> > > seat extenders that you can add to the present toilet are more like 4
> > > inches higher if I remember correctly. I wouldn't think that anyone
> > > looking to buy a house would pay much attention to it unless they were
> > > gimps too.
> > > Ann
> >
> > OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model today.
> >
> > Now, does anybody have any thoughts on white vs cream/beige?
> >
> >
> > uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first try to
> > match those as closely in color as possible.
> >
> > only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color
> > of
> > either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
> > formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that
> > is
> > not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
> > permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion, for
> > the
> > almost 2 cents it's worth.
> >
>
> Tub is white, with tiling around it that is off-white with speckles. The
> new floor is a light beige tile, and the vanity top is a multi-colored
> with white, beige, and specks of brown and orange. Right now, towels and
> mats are burgundy and rose, but that can change; I've held off on new
> towels until I did the rest. And I haven't chosen paint for the walls
> yet. Right now it's pink, but I'm not going to stick with that. It will
> probably be beige or a light melon.
>
> ***as you've already likely surmised, you want to match permanent to
> permanent. non-permanent colors are considered to be things like
> paint/wallpaper, accents, accessories and flooring (i know. i thought that
> flooring should be considered permanent, too.<smile>). tile falls into the
> either/or catagory, depending upon application.
>
> if your sink itself, not just the top, is white like your tub, then i'd
> stick with white for the commode. if it's a one-piece top and sink, i think
> you might get away with a beige toilet, if beige is the dominant color of
> the one-piece sink/top, also depending on the tub tiles' dominant color.
>
> however, its easier to mismatch permanent fixtures and still tie it all
> together, if the toilet is on the opposite wall to the sink and tub and if
> the bathroom is large enough. one of my bathrooms is roughly 8'x17' and my
> commode and bidet are on the opposing wall. so i could get away with white
> for those, even though the shower stall, one-piece double sink and jacuzzi
> tub are dominantly beige. i was also careful to match all the metal
> fixtures and accents (including toilet flushing handle), visible toilet
> supply line, and the style line of the bases (the shape that touches the
> floor) of both the bidet and toilet, to help tie it all together.
>
> hope that helps and that i haven't confused you. i'm not very good at
> "telling", better at "showing".<smile>

No, this is good. Unfortunately, my bathroom is tiny. There's barely
room to turn around. I hated everything about it when I moved into the
house (7 years ago!), but just *had* to do the tile around the tub,
which entailed removing the glass shower door on top of it. There's a
ghastly linoleum on the floor (beige with blue flowers), and the
built-ins (vanity, medicine chest, and light bar) are cheap wood; the
shelves are particle board. So all of that is going, and I'm working out
a way to add some additional storage space. The only thing that I'd
consider keeping is the sink-top.

Part of the reason that it took so long for me to get around to this is
the difficulty of finding a contractor/remodeler who will take small
jobs. I finally have one, and it's great!

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

I have been very happy with my chair height one that also has bars on it.
The bars take weight off hips and knees. It can be installed on a regular
toilet.


Abby
On Thu, 8 May 2008, ANN M wrote:

> My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one that
> is Chair Height. My knees have never been so happy!!!! It's a larger
> unit, takes up more space, costs more money than a standard one, but is
> soooo worth it. I highly recommend it to any one with arthritis.
> It's been here for less than a week and already my girlfriend and my
> cousin have both told their husbands that this is a "must have" item for
> their homes too.
>
> Ann
>
>

>
> > "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
> > In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
> > ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:
> ><gentle snip>
> > > OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model
> > > today.
> >
> > Now, does anybody have any thoughts on white vs cream/beige?
> >
> >
> > uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first try
> > to
> > match those as closely in color as possible.
> >
> > only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color
> > of
> > either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
> > formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that
> > is
> > not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
> > permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion, for
> > the
> > almost 2 cents it's worth.
> >
>
> Tub is white, with tiling around it that is off-white with speckles. The
> new floor is a light beige tile, and the vanity top is a multi-colored
> with white, beige, and specks of brown and orange. Right now, towels and
> mats are burgundy and rose, but that can change; I've held off on new
> towels until I did the rest. And I haven't chosen paint for the walls
> yet. Right now it's pink, but I'm not going to stick with that. It will
> probably be beige or a light melon.
>
> ***as you've already likely surmised, you want to match permanent to
> permanent. non-permanent colors are considered to be things like
> paint/wallpaper, accents, accessories and flooring (i know. i thought
> that
> flooring should be considered permanent, too.<smile>). tile falls into
> the
> either/or catagory, depending upon application.
>
> if your sink itself, not just the top, is white like your tub, then i'd
> stick with white for the commode. if it's a one-piece top and sink, i
> think
> you might get away with a beige toilet, if beige is the dominant color of
> the one-piece sink/top, also depending on the tub tiles' dominant color.
>
> however, its easier to mismatch permanent fixtures and still tie it all
> together, if the toilet is on the opposite wall to the sink and tub and if
> the bathroom is large enough. one of my bathrooms is roughly 8'x17' and
> my
> commode and bidet are on the opposing wall. so i could get away with
> white
> for those, even though the shower stall, one-piece double sink and jacuzzi
> tub are dominantly beige. i was also careful to match all the metal
> fixtures and accents (including toilet flushing handle), visible toilet
> supply line, and the style line of the bases (the shape that touches the
> floor) of both the bidet and toilet, to help tie it all together.
>
> hope that helps and that i haven't confused you. i'm not very good at
> "telling", better at "showing".<smile>

No, this is good. Unfortunately, my bathroom is tiny. There's barely
room to turn around. I hated everything about it when I moved into the
house (7 years ago!), but just *had* to do the tile around the tub,
which entailed removing the glass shower door on top of it. There's a
ghastly linoleum on the floor (beige with blue flowers), and the
built-ins (vanity, medicine chest, and light bar) are cheap wood; the
shelves are particle board. So all of that is going, and I'm working out
a way to add some additional storage space. The only thing that I'd
consider keeping is the sink-top.

Part of the reason that it took so long for me to get around to this is
the difficulty of finding a contractor/remodeler who will take small
jobs. I finally have one, and it's great!

***you're virtually doing a whole redo. so, you're keeping sink-top and the
tub with tiling, if i'm reading you right? sounds like a fun project.

for storage spaces, consider taking advantage of the spaces between your
studs that don't have wiring or plumbing in them for either the bathroom or
the abutting room (less expensive that way). check out both sides of the
wall, you are considering for storage. (we did a built-in, flush with wall,
pass-through linen cupboard and laundry hamper that you can load and unload
in the bathroom and in the laundry room, utilizing the stud space in this
house. i did a similar thing in my cabin before i met butch, but created a
pass-through linen cabinet into the hallway from the bathroom, cuz there was
only one bathroom. that way i didn't have to wait until someone was done in
the bathroom to put towels away. i always consider hallways wasted space
anyway.<g>)

you are sooo right about finding contractors/remodelers. tough to do.
wintertime is their slow time of the year and best time to find and hire
them. the good ones are generally booked solid during the better weather
seasons.

good luck with your project and make sure you have fun with it, alice. i
bet it will turn out lovely! i hope you'll share pix with us, when it's
finished.

kate

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

In article <sP2dnVMs_feAjrvVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:

> >
> > > "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
> > > news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
> > > In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
> > > ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:
> > ><gentle snip>
> > > > OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model
> > > > today.
> > >
> > > Now, does anybody have any thoughts on white vs cream/beige?
> > >
> > >
> > > uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first try
> > > to
> > > match those as closely in color as possible.
> > >
> > > only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color
> > > of
> > > either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
> > > formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that
> > > is
> > > not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
> > > permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion, for
> > > the
> > > almost 2 cents it's worth.
> > >
> >
> > Tub is white, with tiling around it that is off-white with speckles. The
> > new floor is a light beige tile, and the vanity top is a multi-colored
> > with white, beige, and specks of brown and orange. Right now, towels and
> > mats are burgundy and rose, but that can change; I've held off on new
> > towels until I did the rest. And I haven't chosen paint for the walls
> > yet. Right now it's pink, but I'm not going to stick with that. It will
> > probably be beige or a light melon.
> >
> > ***as you've already likely surmised, you want to match permanent to
> > permanent. non-permanent colors are considered to be things like
> > paint/wallpaper, accents, accessories and flooring (i know. i thought
> > that
> > flooring should be considered permanent, too.<smile>). tile falls into
> > the
> > either/or catagory, depending upon application.
> >
> > if your sink itself, not just the top, is white like your tub, then i'd
> > stick with white for the commode. if it's a one-piece top and sink, i
> > think
> > you might get away with a beige toilet, if beige is the dominant color of
> > the one-piece sink/top, also depending on the tub tiles' dominant color.
> >
> > however, its easier to mismatch permanent fixtures and still tie it all
> > together, if the toilet is on the opposite wall to the sink and tub and if
> > the bathroom is large enough. one of my bathrooms is roughly 8'x17' and
> > my
> > commode and bidet are on the opposing wall. so i could get away with
> > white
> > for those, even though the shower stall, one-piece double sink and jacuzzi
> > tub are dominantly beige. i was also careful to match all the metal
> > fixtures and accents (including toilet flushing handle), visible toilet
> > supply line, and the style line of the bases (the shape that touches the
> > floor) of both the bidet and toilet, to help tie it all together.
> >
> > hope that helps and that i haven't confused you. i'm not very good at
> > "telling", better at "showing".<smile>
>
> No, this is good. Unfortunately, my bathroom is tiny. There's barely
> room to turn around. I hated everything about it when I moved into the
> house (7 years ago!), but just *had* to do the tile around the tub,
> which entailed removing the glass shower door on top of it. There's a
> ghastly linoleum on the floor (beige with blue flowers), and the
> built-ins (vanity, medicine chest, and light bar) are cheap wood; the
> shelves are particle board. So all of that is going, and I'm working out
> a way to add some additional storage space. The only thing that I'd
> consider keeping is the sink-top.
>
> Part of the reason that it took so long for me to get around to this is
> the difficulty of finding a contractor/remodeler who will take small
> jobs. I finally have one, and it's great!
>
> ***you're virtually doing a whole redo. so, you're keeping sink-top and the
> tub with tiling, if i'm reading you right? sounds like a fun project.
>
> for storage spaces, consider taking advantage of the spaces between your
> studs that don't have wiring or plumbing in them for either the bathroom or
> the abutting room (less expensive that way). check out both sides of the
> wall, you are considering for storage. (we did a built-in, flush with wall,
> pass-through linen cupboard and laundry hamper that you can load and unload
> in the bathroom and in the laundry room, utilizing the stud space in this
> house. i did a similar thing in my cabin before i met butch, but created a
> pass-through linen cabinet into the hallway from the bathroom, cuz there was
> only one bathroom. that way i didn't have to wait until someone was done in
> the bathroom to put towels away. i always consider hallways wasted space
> anyway.<g>)

I wish I could do that! The only wall that can get storage is shared
with the kitchen, and it's the side of the kitchen where the stove and
refrigerator are. I'll be putting a wall cabinet above the toilet, and
we're figuring out how to put a narrow cabinet right by the door;
there's total dead space there now, that's 17.5" wide and 15" deep. The
only thing in that space is a loop rack for a hand towel. When the total
bathroom is 82"x54" (not counting the tub), you *have* to make better
use of the space.
>
> you are sooo right about finding contractors/remodelers. tough to do.
> wintertime is their slow time of the year and best time to find and hire
> them. the good ones are generally booked solid during the better weather
> seasons.
>
> good luck with your project and make sure you have fun with it, alice. i
> bet it will turn out lovely! i hope you'll share pix with us, when it's
> finished.

I will!

I was going to go toilet shopping this afternoon, but I got busy in the
yard, and my toe doesn't want me to go walking through Home Depot right
now.

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

I have a Toto low flush handicap toilet and I love it! Wouldn't do without
it. The handicap toilets now are a little lower than the old ones and for
people like me 5'3" they are perfect. One thing I would try to do in my
bathroom and one day probably will is put a small cabinet between my tub and
my toilet to put toilet paper, tissue, stuff that I need while there (a gimp
friendly cupboard) and somewhere to put my book. It would also act as a
grab area to stand with. Just my change. I do have a tile floor in my
bathroom with the heat underneath and I love it. It saves having to put a
baseboard heater in there (a problem for small bathrooms), keeps the
bathroom toasty warm and the floor warm in the middle of the night (as I
always seem to be there at some part of the night. I hate pedestal sinks as
there is no storage and am partial to white or beige fixtures as they never
go out of style (remember the avocado ones - out of style definitely.)

Sounds exciting. Don't forget - you can research these online now - easier
than traipsing through home depot in person! What did we do without research
online! And purchasing! Gimp friendly!!

I envy you your yard. My soil in my raised beds went in this morning so
next week I get to plant again. Can reach some by scooter, some by sitting
on the walls and some I will have to get Pat or someone to plant for me. I
will be able to weed from my scooter with tools. The paths are 4' wide
(which my husband keeps harping that it looks too wide - less to weed and
nothing to mow and will allow my scooter and one person to walk side by
side. what not to like. when I eventually get thyme etc planted between -
well it will look great!

Take care Alice - sounds like an exciting and doeable job.

Kelly
"Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
news:afaber-A881DF.18372210052008@reader2.panix.com...
> In article <sP2dnVMs_feAjrvVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > > "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
>> > > In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
>> > > ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:
>> > ><gentle snip>
>> > > > OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model
>> > > > today.
>> > >
>> > > Now, does anybody have any thoughts on white vs cream/beige?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first
>> > > try
>> > > to
>> > > match those as closely in color as possible.
>> > >
>> > > only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary
>> > > color
>> > > of
>> > > either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
>> > > formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround
>> > > (that
>> > > is
>> > > not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the
>> > > new
>> > > permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion,
>> > > for
>> > > the
>> > > almost 2 cents it's worth.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Tub is white, with tiling around it that is off-white with speckles.
>> > The
>> > new floor is a light beige tile, and the vanity top is a multi-colored
>> > with white, beige, and specks of brown and orange. Right now, towels
>> > and
>> > mats are burgundy and rose, but that can change; I've held off on new
>> > towels until I did the rest. And I haven't chosen paint for the walls
>> > yet. Right now it's pink, but I'm not going to stick with that. It will
>> > probably be beige or a light melon.
>> >
>> > ***as you've already likely surmised, you want to match permanent to
>> > permanent. non-permanent colors are considered to be things like
>> > paint/wallpaper, accents, accessories and flooring (i know. i thought
>> > that
>> > flooring should be considered permanent, too.<smile>). tile falls into
>> > the
>> > either/or catagory, depending upon application.
>> >
>> > if your sink itself, not just the top, is white like your tub, then i'd
>> > stick with white for the commode. if it's a one-piece top and sink, i
>> > think
>> > you might get away with a beige toilet, if beige is the dominant color
>> > of
>> > the one-piece sink/top, also depending on the tub tiles' dominant
>> > color.
>> >
>> > however, its easier to mismatch permanent fixtures and still tie it
>> > all
>> > together, if the toilet is on the opposite wall to the sink and tub and
>> > if
>> > the bathroom is large enough. one of my bathrooms is roughly 8'x17'
>> > and
>> > my
>> > commode and bidet are on the opposing wall. so i could get away with
>> > white
>> > for those, even though the shower stall, one-piece double sink and
>> > jacuzzi
>> > tub are dominantly beige. i was also careful to match all the metal
>> > fixtures and accents (including toilet flushing handle), visible toilet
>> > supply line, and the style line of the bases (the shape that touches
>> > the
>> > floor) of both the bidet and toilet, to help tie it all together.
>> >
>> > hope that helps and that i haven't confused you. i'm not very good at
>> > "telling", better at "showing".<smile>
>>
>> No, this is good. Unfortunately, my bathroom is tiny. There's barely
>> room to turn around. I hated everything about it when I moved into the
>> house (7 years ago!), but just *had* to do the tile around the tub,
>> which entailed removing the glass shower door on top of it. There's a
>> ghastly linoleum on the floor (beige with blue flowers), and the
>> built-ins (vanity, medicine chest, and light bar) are cheap wood; the
>> shelves are particle board. So all of that is going, and I'm working out
>> a way to add some additional storage space. The only thing that I'd
>> consider keeping is the sink-top.
>>
>> Part of the reason that it took so long for me to get around to this is
>> the difficulty of finding a contractor/remodeler who will take small
>> jobs. I finally have one, and it's great!
>>
>> ***you're virtually doing a whole redo. so, you're keeping sink-top and
>> the
>> tub with tiling, if i'm reading you right? sounds like a fun project.
>>
>> for storage spaces, consider taking advantage of the spaces between your
>> studs that don't have wiring or plumbing in them for either the bathroom
>> or
>> the abutting room (less expensive that way). check out both sides of the
>> wall, you are considering for storage. (we did a built-in, flush with
>> wall,
>> pass-through linen cupboard and laundry hamper that you can load and
>> unload
>> in the bathroom and in the laundry room, utilizing the stud space in this
>> house. i did a similar thing in my cabin before i met butch, but created
>> a
>> pass-through linen cabinet into the hallway from the bathroom, cuz there
>> was
>> only one bathroom. that way i didn't have to wait until someone was done
>> in
>> the bathroom to put towels away. i always consider hallways wasted space
>> anyway.<g>)
>
> I wish I could do that! The only wall that can get storage is shared
> with the kitchen, and it's the side of the kitchen where the stove and
> refrigerator are. I'll be putting a wall cabinet above the toilet, and
> we're figuring out how to put a narrow cabinet right by the door;
> there's total dead space there now, that's 17.5" wide and 15" deep. The
> only thing in that space is a loop rack for a hand towel. When the total
> bathroom is 82"x54" (not counting the tub), you *have* to make better
> use of the space.
>>
>> you are sooo right about finding contractors/remodelers. tough to do.
>> wintertime is their slow time of the year and best time to find and hire
>> them. the good ones are generally booked solid during the better weather
>> seasons.
>>
>> good luck with your project and make sure you have fun with it, alice. i
>> bet it will turn out lovely! i hope you'll share pix with us, when it's
>> finished.
>
> I will!
>
> I was going to go toilet shopping this afternoon, but I got busy in the
> yard, and my toe doesn't want me to go walking through Home Depot right
> now.
>
> --
> "[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
> This, apparently, upsets the fools."
> ---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:37:10 -0400, d'huit wrote
(in message <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>):

> uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first try to
> match those as closely in color as possible.
>
> only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color of
> either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
> formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that is
> not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
> permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion, for the
> almost 2 cents it's worth.
>

yuppers - I agree with kate. Thank you kate for saying it as I am way too
tired to type it out. It's been a very busy week of getting stuff done
before vacation (leave for Paris on tuesday!) (yes, France, not Paris
Tennessee, where we happen to haev friends.)


--
Nann
remove the Gator cheer to email me
Change everything. Love & forgive.

Nann, don't be too tired when you leave for Paris even if you don't get
everything done. It will be there when you get back. Hope you two will
have a wonderful time and you will not be bothered with pain while gone.
Just think of all of us while there and how much we would like to be with
you!
Gwen


"Nann Bell" <hanbellGOGATORS@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C44BD45200680B40F0284550@news.east.ear thlink.net...
On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:37:10 -0400, d'huit wrote
(in message <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>):

> uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first try to
> match those as closely in color as possible.
>
> only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color
> of
> either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
> formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that
> is
> not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
> permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion, for
> the
> almost 2 cents it's worth.
>

yuppers - I agree with kate. Thank you kate for saying it as I am way too
tired to type it out. It's been a very busy week of getting stuff done
before vacation (leave for Paris on tuesday!) (yes, France, not Paris
Tennessee, where we happen to haev friends.)


--
Nann
remove the Gator cheer to email me
Change everything. Love & forgive.

"Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
news:afaber-A881DF.18372210052008@reader2.panix.com...
> In article <sP2dnVMs_feAjrvVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > > "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
>> > > In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
>> > > ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:
>> > ><gentle snip>
>> > > > OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model
>> > > > today.
>> > >

>>
>> good luck with your project and make sure you have fun with it, alice.
>> i
>> bet it will turn out lovely! i hope you'll share pix with us, when it's
>> finished.
>
> I will!
>
> I was going to go toilet shopping this afternoon, but I got busy in the
> yard, and my toe doesn't want me to go walking through Home Depot right
> now.
>

That is what the electric carts are for!

Jo

Can I go too? I will be with you in spirit Nann - have a great time!

Kelly

and those are my thoughts too.
Harv

<sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net> wrote in message
news:3c042$48265d3c$45491df5$25450@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Nann, don't be too tired when you leave for Paris even if you don't get
> everything done. It will be there when you get back. Hope you two will
> have a wonderful time and you will not be bothered with pain while gone.
> Just think of all of us while there and how much we would like to be with
> you!
> Gwen
>
>
> "Nann Bell" <hanbellGOGATORS@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:0001HW.C44BD45200680B40F0284550@news.east.ear thlink.net...
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:37:10 -0400, d'huit wrote
> (in message <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>):
>
>> uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first try to
>> match those as closely in color as possible.
>>
>> only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color
>> of
>> either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
>> formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that
>> is
>> not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
>> permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion, for
>> the
>> almost 2 cents it's worth.
>>
>
> yuppers - I agree with kate. Thank you kate for saying it as I am way too
> tired to type it out. It's been a very busy week of getting stuff done
> before vacation (leave for Paris on tuesday!) (yes, France, not Paris
> Tennessee, where we happen to haev friends.)
>
>
> --
> Nann
> remove the Gator cheer to email me
> Change everything. Love & forgive.
>
>
>

Have a great vacation, enjoy Paris.
Ann

"Nann Bell" <hanbellGOGATORS@earthlink.net> skrev i melding
news:0001HW.C44BD45200680B40F0284550@news.east.ear thlink.net...
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:37:10 -0400, d'huit wrote
> (in message <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>):
>
>> uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower? i'd first try to
>> match those as closely in color as possible.
>>
>> only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color
>> of
>> either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
>> formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that
>> is
>> not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
>> permanent to the old permanent with color choice. just my opinion, for
>> the
>> almost 2 cents it's worth.
>>
>
> yuppers - I agree with kate. Thank you kate for saying it as I am way too
> tired to type it out. It's been a very busy week of getting stuff done
> before vacation (leave for Paris on tuesday!) (yes, France, not Paris
> Tennessee, where we happen to haev friends.)
>
>


Bonne voyage!!! :-)
Aina
the lurker in Norway

Have fun Nann also have safe travel there and back.

--
Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one
I am nuts about you.
>
> yuppers - I agree with kate. Thank you kate for saying it as I am way too
> tired to type it out. It's been a very busy week of getting stuff done
> before vacation (leave for Paris on tuesday!) (yes, France, not Paris
> Tennessee, where we happen to haev friends.)
>
>
> --
> Nann

Get white. If things have to be changed in the future -- you KNOW you
will be able to match the white and that the white will be available.
Can't tell you of the number of bubblegum pink or harvest gold toilets I
have seen come out of remodeling houses. White is good for another thing
as well -- my mother had about 28 kidney stones before they figured out
where they were coming from and fixed things. A white toilet lets you
see blood in the urine easily.
Duckie

d'huit wrote:

> "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:afaber-37B0D2.14052710052008@reader2.panix.com...
> In article <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote