communication slim - sorry

I feel I have been out of communication for too long but couldn't be helped.
Rose - I have your letter and will phone one of these nights - as soon as I
stop hacking.

I had my first of the second round of rituxan almost 2 weeks ago. The first
date was cancelled due to a uti (again) but the second went away. Still
couldn't get past 37.5 mg an hour rate of infusion so 2 days was necessary.
I got the same throat irritation and bronchospasms as last time which lasted
at least 7 days. Anyhow last day was the 19th. By the 21st I felt a cold
coming on and also was feeling lousy. Of course we had lots to do
(christmas etc.) and although I tried staying away from people it was
impossible. By the 27th I knew I was sick. Waited until it was obviously
not going away on the 31st went to a clinic. Ear infection, sinus
infection, bronchitis but not in lungs. Prescribed cipro. Took it to the
pharmacist and she took one look at my charts (new town, new pharmacist who
I will definitely switch to) and read me the act. My immune system was
probably in the basement, I should have had blood tests and chest xrays if
it hadn't been a holiday and she was doubtful cipro would do the trick.
Told me to get immediately into er if felt worse not to wait at all! good
thing.

So new Year's day woke up so mucky in the chest I had trouble breathing, was
dizzy and my chest ached. Off to ER - stopped pat from cooking breakfast so
nothing to eat, no meds. 3 hours until they moved me into an isolation room
to wait for ER doctor. Chest xRays, blood tests (more waiting for test
results.) Chest xrays clear thank goodness but doctor did not feel cipro
was right. The blood tests showed bacterial infection, definintely the
bronchitis was worse and worsening to quote her. The potassium levels are
again in the basement. So she switches antibiotics to stronger one, gives
me potassium pills and demands that I tell my doctor I need monthly checks
on it and then gives me my new best friend - a puffer. Wow inhaled steroids
clear a chest quickly! Since I don't usually have any bronchial crap this
was an eye opener.

Feel slightly better this morning and this evening but all I have done since
the morning of the 27th is sleep, hack, etc. Have been on the computer
little.

So a late Happy New Year to all. This is going to be a great year for me
(as soon as I can get the second dose of rituxan down me after all signs of
infection are gone.) Will luck the spammers and MI5 and ironmen can go away
eventually (January and December always bring them out so I feel sorry for
those that come needing help.) Hopefully most of you will get things a bit
under control this year. I have to say the rituxan has been my miracle drug
despite the infection problem after the treatment. My joints are incredible
even with an immediate 1.25 mg drop in prednisone. I don't think I have an
inflammed joint in my body (some sore tendons and muscles and definitely
some inflamed tendons but we hope that will disappear with this treatment -
that is always my major problem.) The next test will be to see if we can
get my prednisone down as it is still at 8.75 mg

Anyhow been thinking of all of you and will be hoping that flood area holds
M. Best for the new years to all of you. The good thing about the numbers
dropping on the newsgroup from a few years ago is that finally I think
people are seeing differences in their treatment - enbrel, remicade,
orencia, arava, humira, rituxan. All have helped with people like KJ, Lake
Goddess etc. Would love to hear from Walt and a few others though. Hope
the fact that they are quiet means things are going well.

Take care,
Kelly

Oh Kelly

you sure have been thru the wringer, I hope you are healing now and that
things go well for you. Will keep you in my prayers and thoughts. You take
care and hang in there.


--
Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one
I am nuts about you.

>I feel I have been out of communication for too long but couldn't be
>helped. Rose - I have your letter and will phone one of these nights - as
>soon as I stop hacking.
>
> I had my first of the second round of rituxan almost 2 weeks ago. The
> first date was cancelled due to a uti (again) but the second went away.
> Still couldn't get past 37.5 mg an hour rate of infusion so 2 days was
> necessary. I got the same throat irritation and bronchospasms as last time
> which lasted at least 7 days. Anyhow last day was the 19th. By the 21st
> I felt a cold coming on and also was feeling lousy. Of course we had lots
> to do (christmas etc.) and although I tried staying away from people it
> was impossible. By the 27th I knew I was sick. Waited until it was
> obviously not going away on the 31st went to a clinic. Ear infection,
> sinus infection, bronchitis but not in lungs. Prescribed cipro. Took it
> to the pharmacist and she took one look at my charts (new town, new
> pharmacist who I will definitely switch to) and read me the act. My
> immune system was probably in the basement, I should have had blood tests
> and chest xrays if it hadn't been a holiday and she was doubtful cipro
> would do the trick. Told me to get immediately into er if felt worse not
> to wait at all! good thing.
>
> So new Year's day woke up so mucky in the chest I had trouble breathing,
> was dizzy and my chest ached. Off to ER - stopped pat from cooking
> breakfast so nothing to eat, no meds. 3 hours until they moved me into an
> isolation room to wait for ER doctor. Chest xRays, blood tests (more
> waiting for test results.) Chest xrays clear thank goodness but doctor
> did not feel cipro was right. The blood tests showed bacterial infection,
> definintely the bronchitis was worse and worsening to quote her. The
> potassium levels are again in the basement. So she switches antibiotics
> to stronger one, gives me potassium pills and demands that I tell my
> doctor I need monthly checks on it and then gives me my new best friend -
> a puffer. Wow inhaled steroids clear a chest quickly! Since I don't
> usually have any bronchial crap this was an eye opener.
>
> Feel slightly better this morning and this evening but all I have done
> since the morning of the 27th is sleep, hack, etc. Have been on the
> computer little.
>
> So a late Happy New Year to all. This is going to be a great year for me
> (as soon as I can get the second dose of rituxan down me after all signs
> of infection are gone.) Will luck the spammers and MI5 and ironmen can go
> away eventually (January and December always bring them out so I feel
> sorry for those that come needing help.) Hopefully most of you will get
> things a bit under control this year. I have to say the rituxan has been
> my miracle drug despite the infection problem after the treatment. My
> joints are incredible even with an immediate 1.25 mg drop in prednisone.
> I don't think I have an inflammed joint in my body (some sore tendons and
> muscles and definitely some inflamed tendons but we hope that will
> disappear with this treatment - that is always my major problem.) The
> next test will be to see if we can get my prednisone down as it is still
> at 8.75 mg
>
> Anyhow been thinking of all of you and will be hoping that flood area
> holds M. Best for the new years to all of you. The good thing about the
> numbers dropping on the newsgroup from a few years ago is that finally I
> think people are seeing differences in their treatment - enbrel, remicade,
> orencia, arava, humira, rituxan. All have helped with people like KJ,
> Lake Goddess etc. Would love to hear from Walt and a few others though.
> Hope the fact that they are quiet means things are going well.
>
> Take care,
> Kelly
>

Good to hear from you Kelly. Hang in there and may your stated wishes come
true.
GaryZ

"Kelly" <kelly.e1@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Om%ej.66923$vd4.60234@pd7urf1no...
>I feel I have been out of communication for too long but couldn't be
>helped. Rose - I have your letter and will phone one of these nights - as
>soon as I stop hacking.
>
> I had my first of the second round of rituxan almost 2 weeks ago. The
> first date was cancelled due to a uti (again) but the second went away.
> Still couldn't get past 37.5 mg an hour rate of infusion so 2 days was
> necessary. I got the same throat irritation and bronchospasms as last time
> which lasted at least 7 days. Anyhow last day was the 19th. By the 21st
> I felt a cold coming on and also was feeling lousy. Of course we had lots
> to do (christmas etc.) and although I tried staying away from people it
> was impossible. By the 27th I knew I was sick. Waited until it was
> obviously not going away on the 31st went to a clinic. Ear infection,
> sinus infection, bronchitis but not in lungs. Prescribed cipro. Took it
> to the pharmacist and she took one look at my charts (new town, new
> pharmacist who I will definitely switch to) and read me the act. My
> immune system was probably in the basement, I should have had blood tests
> and chest xrays if it hadn't been a holiday and she was doubtful cipro
> would do the trick. Told me to get immediately into er if felt worse not
> to wait at all! good thing.
>
> So new Year's day woke up so mucky in the chest I had trouble breathing,
> was dizzy and my chest ached. Off to ER - stopped pat from cooking
> breakfast so nothing to eat, no meds. 3 hours until they moved me into an
> isolation room to wait for ER doctor. Chest xRays, blood tests (more
> waiting for test results.) Chest xrays clear thank goodness but doctor
> did not feel cipro was right. The blood tests showed bacterial infection,
> definintely the bronchitis was worse and worsening to quote her. The
> potassium levels are again in the basement. So she switches antibiotics
> to stronger one, gives me potassium pills and demands that I tell my
> doctor I need monthly checks on it and then gives me my new best friend -
> a puffer. Wow inhaled steroids clear a chest quickly! Since I don't
> usually have any bronchial crap this was an eye opener.
>
> Feel slightly better this morning and this evening but all I have done
> since the morning of the 27th is sleep, hack, etc. Have been on the
> computer little.
>
> So a late Happy New Year to all. This is going to be a great year for me
> (as soon as I can get the second dose of rituxan down me after all signs
> of infection are gone.) Will luck the spammers and MI5 and ironmen can go
> away eventually (January and December always bring them out so I feel
> sorry for those that come needing help.) Hopefully most of you will get
> things a bit under control this year. I have to say the rituxan has been
> my miracle drug despite the infection problem after the treatment. My
> joints are incredible even with an immediate 1.25 mg drop in prednisone.
> I don't think I have an inflammed joint in my body (some sore tendons and
> muscles and definitely some inflamed tendons but we hope that will
> disappear with this treatment - that is always my major problem.) The
> next test will be to see if we can get my prednisone down as it is still
> at 8.75 mg
>
> Anyhow been thinking of all of you and will be hoping that flood area
> holds M. Best for the new years to all of you. The good thing about the
> numbers dropping on the newsgroup from a few years ago is that finally I
> think people are seeing differences in their treatment - enbrel, remicade,
> orencia, arava, humira, rituxan. All have helped with people like KJ,
> Lake Goddess etc. Would love to hear from Walt and a few others though.
> Hope the fact that they are quiet means things are going well.
>
> Take care,
> Kelly
>

Kelly, ditto Jo's email.
Gwen

"Squirrely" <sqjo@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:477cccb7$0$36407$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Oh Kelly
>
> you sure have been thru the wringer, I hope you are healing now and that
> things go well for you. Will keep you in my prayers and thoughts. You take
> care and hang in there.
>
>
> --
> Love and Hugs to all
> Jo the squirrely one
> I am nuts about you.
>
>>I feel I have been out of communication for too long but couldn't be
>>helped. Rose - I have your letter and will phone one of these nights - as
>>soon as I stop hacking.
>>
>> I had my first of the second round of rituxan almost 2 weeks ago. The
>> first date was cancelled due to a uti (again) but the second went away.
>> Still couldn't get past 37.5 mg an hour rate of infusion so 2 days was
>> necessary. I got the same throat irritation and bronchospasms as last
>> time which lasted at least 7 days. Anyhow last day was the 19th. By the
>> 21st I felt a cold coming on and also was feeling lousy. Of course we
>> had lots to do (christmas etc.) and although I tried staying away from
>> people it was impossible. By the 27th I knew I was sick. Waited until
>> it was obviously not going away on the 31st went to a clinic. Ear
>> infection, sinus infection, bronchitis but not in lungs. Prescribed
>> cipro. Took it to the pharmacist and she took one look at my charts (new
>> town, new pharmacist who I will definitely switch to) and read me the
>> act. My immune system was probably in the basement, I should have had
>> blood tests and chest xrays if it hadn't been a holiday and she was
>> doubtful cipro would do the trick. Told me to get immediately into er if
>> felt worse not to wait at all! good thing.
>>
>> So new Year's day woke up so mucky in the chest I had trouble breathing,
>> was dizzy and my chest ached. Off to ER - stopped pat from cooking
>> breakfast so nothing to eat, no meds. 3 hours until they moved me into
>> an isolation room to wait for ER doctor. Chest xRays, blood tests (more
>> waiting for test results.) Chest xrays clear thank goodness but doctor
>> did not feel cipro was right. The blood tests showed bacterial
>> infection, definintely the bronchitis was worse and worsening to quote
>> her. The potassium levels are again in the basement. So she switches
>> antibiotics to stronger one, gives me potassium pills and demands that I
>> tell my doctor I need monthly checks on it and then gives me my new best
>> friend - a puffer. Wow inhaled steroids clear a chest quickly! Since I
>> don't usually have any bronchial crap this was an eye opener.
>>
>> Feel slightly better this morning and this evening but all I have done
>> since the morning of the 27th is sleep, hack, etc. Have been on the
>> computer little.
>>
>> So a late Happy New Year to all. This is going to be a great year for me
>> (as soon as I can get the second dose of rituxan down me after all signs
>> of infection are gone.) Will luck the spammers and MI5 and ironmen can
>> go away eventually (January and December always bring them out so I feel
>> sorry for those that come needing help.) Hopefully most of you will get
>> things a bit under control this year. I have to say the rituxan has been
>> my miracle drug despite the infection problem after the treatment. My
>> joints are incredible even with an immediate 1.25 mg drop in prednisone.
>> I don't think I have an inflammed joint in my body (some sore tendons and
>> muscles and definitely some inflamed tendons but we hope that will
>> disappear with this treatment - that is always my major problem.) The
>> next test will be to see if we can get my prednisone down as it is still
>> at 8.75 mg
>>
>> Anyhow been thinking of all of you and will be hoping that flood area
>> holds M. Best for the new years to all of you. The good thing about the
>> numbers dropping on the newsgroup from a few years ago is that finally I
>> think people are seeing differences in their treatment - enbrel,
>> remicade, orencia, arava, humira, rituxan. All have helped with people
>> like KJ, Lake Goddess etc. Would love to hear from Walt and a few others
>> though. Hope the fact that they are quiet means things are going well.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Kelly
>>
>
>

Thanks Gwen and Jo. Slowly entering the land of the living except for the
side effects of the meds and the fact that the bronchitis is still pretty
bad. If anyone gets fairly sudden muscle weakness - get your potassium
checked especially if on HCL or steroids. Boy does that do a number on you.
I was blaming the steroid drop and the fact that with all the problems I was
out of shape which I knew in the back of my mind really wasn't true. The
extra potassium is definitely helping. Now to get my gp to help me figure
out why I am losing it this time. I am off the HCL so that isn't it.

Hope that storm isn't hitting you too hard Jo.

Take care,
Kelly

<sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net> wrote in message
news:497e8$477da7cf$45491df5$1070@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Kelly, ditto Jo's email.
> Gwen
>
> "Squirrely" <sqjo@sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:477cccb7$0$36407$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> Oh Kelly
>>
>> you sure have been thru the wringer, I hope you are healing now and that
>> things go well for you. Will keep you in my prayers and thoughts. You
>> take care and hang in there.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Love and Hugs to all
>> Jo the squirrely one
>> I am nuts about you.
>>
>>>I feel I have been out of communication for too long but couldn't be
>>>helped. Rose - I have your letter and will phone one of these nights - as
>>>soon as I stop hacking.
>>>
>>> I had my first of the second round of rituxan almost 2 weeks ago. The
>>> first date was cancelled due to a uti (again) but the second went away.
>>> Still couldn't get past 37.5 mg an hour rate of infusion so 2 days was
>>> necessary. I got the same throat irritation and bronchospasms as last
>>> time which lasted at least 7 days. Anyhow last day was the 19th. By
>>> the 21st I felt a cold coming on and also was feeling lousy. Of course
>>> we had lots to do (christmas etc.) and although I tried staying away
>>> from people it was impossible. By the 27th I knew I was sick. Waited
>>> until it was obviously not going away on the 31st went to a clinic. Ear
>>> infection, sinus infection, bronchitis but not in lungs. Prescribed
>>> cipro. Took it to the pharmacist and she took one look at my charts
>>> (new town, new pharmacist who I will definitely switch to) and read me
>>> the act. My immune system was probably in the basement, I should have
>>> had blood tests and chest xrays if it hadn't been a holiday and she was
>>> doubtful cipro would do the trick. Told me to get immediately into er if
>>> felt worse not to wait at all! good thing.
>>>
>>> So new Year's day woke up so mucky in the chest I had trouble breathing,
>>> was dizzy and my chest ached. Off to ER - stopped pat from cooking
>>> breakfast so nothing to eat, no meds. 3 hours until they moved me into
>>> an isolation room to wait for ER doctor. Chest xRays, blood tests (more
>>> waiting for test results.) Chest xrays clear thank goodness but doctor
>>> did not feel cipro was right. The blood tests showed bacterial
>>> infection, definintely the bronchitis was worse and worsening to quote
>>> her. The potassium levels are again in the basement. So she switches
>>> antibiotics to stronger one, gives me potassium pills and demands that I
>>> tell my doctor I need monthly checks on it and then gives me my new best
>>> friend - a puffer. Wow inhaled steroids clear a chest quickly! Since I
>>> don't usually have any bronchial crap this was an eye opener.
>>>
>>> Feel slightly better this morning and this evening but all I have done
>>> since the morning of the 27th is sleep, hack, etc. Have been on the
>>> computer little.
>>>
>>> So a late Happy New Year to all. This is going to be a great year for
>>> me (as soon as I can get the second dose of rituxan down me after all
>>> signs of infection are gone.) Will luck the spammers and MI5 and
>>> ironmen can go away eventually (January and December always bring them
>>> out so I feel sorry for those that come needing help.) Hopefully most
>>> of you will get things a bit under control this year. I have to say the
>>> rituxan has been my miracle drug despite the infection problem after the
>>> treatment. My joints are incredible even with an immediate 1.25 mg drop
>>> in prednisone. I don't think I have an inflammed joint in my body (some
>>> sore tendons and muscles and definitely some inflamed tendons but we
>>> hope that will disappear with this treatment - that is always my major
>>> problem.) The next test will be to see if we can get my prednisone down
>>> as it is still at 8.75 mg
>>>
>>> Anyhow been thinking of all of you and will be hoping that flood area
>>> holds M. Best for the new years to all of you. The good thing about
>>> the numbers dropping on the newsgroup from a few years ago is that
>>> finally I think people are seeing differences in their treatment -
>>> enbrel, remicade, orencia, arava, humira, rituxan. All have helped with
>>> people like KJ, Lake Goddess etc. Would love to hear from Walt and a
>>> few others though. Hope the fact that they are quiet means things are
>>> going well.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Glad you are joining the land of the living again. ;-)

Yeah this bronchitis stuff is wicked. I can't seem to shake mine.

Thanks for the tip on the potassium. I need mine checked again. It is hard
to tell with the dehydration issues and what is making me weak and not.

I heard it was coming from your end Kelly, so hopefully the winds and heavy
rains didn't do you in too.

Drew had an accident because of it. Dad in law lost a fence and the top to
the shed. Just what they needed when mom is still in hospital. Never a dull
moment. But as far as us personally we made it thru it ok. Just a mess to
clean up in the yards if it ever gets clear enough for us to get out there.
;-)
so we were blessed.

--
Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one
I am nuts about you.

> Thanks Gwen and Jo. Slowly entering the land of the living except for the
> side effects of the meds and the fact that the bronchitis is still pretty
> bad. If anyone gets fairly sudden muscle weakness - get your potassium
> checked especially if on HCL or steroids. Boy does that do a number on
> you. I was blaming the steroid drop and the fact that with all the
> problems I was out of shape which I knew in the back of my mind really
> wasn't true. The extra potassium is definitely helping. Now to get my gp
> to help me figure out why I am losing it this time. I am off the HCL so
> that isn't it.
>
> Hope that storm isn't hitting you too hard Jo.
>
> Take care,
> Kelly

oh, Kelly, so sorry to hear you've had yet another battle to fight! It's
time to stop competing for the "Year from Hell" prize! Kudos to that winner
of a pharmacist an I surely hope and pray that this doesn't stop the rituxan
treatment. it must be such a relief to have something improving!

--
Nann
remove the Gator cheer to email me
Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare

It really is working Nann so am going to fight to the end to make sure I am
very well before I get my next treatment (hopefully next week). The
pharmacist was incredible and I am now going to move my prescriptions here
from my old hometown. Now is I could only find out if the ER doctor has a
practice somewhere I might change doctors too but maybe not. GP are really
hard to find here especially ones who will treat chronically ill (would that
be me?????)

As for the Year from Hell prize - I heard they were going to actually start
making mine from aluminium foil. The silver cost was getting too high. But
that is okay because next year I am giving it away - as a matter of fact
there are some people here who definintely deserve it better - any takers??
it comes with a block of cheese to go with the whine.

Oh and what is this I read about another move for you??? Ugh!

Kelly
"Nann Bell" <hanbellGOGATORS@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C3A8FB890033C72AF0284550@news.east.ear thlink.net...
> oh, Kelly, so sorry to hear you've had yet another battle to fight! It's
> time to stop competing for the "Year from Hell" prize! Kudos to that
> winner
> of a pharmacist an I surely hope and pray that this doesn't stop the
> rituxan
> treatment. it must be such a relief to have something improving!
>
> --
> Nann
> remove the Gator cheer to email me
> Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare
>

That's all good to hear. Personally, I'm eaving the "Year from Hell"
competition to others and sugget you try that from now on also!

as for a move, I'll get into that on its own therad.

--
Nann
remove the Gator cheer to email me
Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:48:19 -0500, Kelly wrote
(in message <TzPgj.29931$uV6.12535@pd7urf1no>):

> It really is working Nann so am going to fight to the end to make sure I am
> very well before I get my next treatment (hopefully next week). The
> pharmacist was incredible and I am now going to move my prescriptions here
> from my old hometown. Now is I could only find out if the ER doctor has a
> practice somewhere I might change doctors too but maybe not. GP are really
> hard to find here especially ones who will treat chronically ill (would that
> be me?????)
>
> As for the Year from Hell prize - I heard they were going to actually start
> making mine from aluminium foil. The silver cost was getting too high. But
> that is okay because next year I am giving it away - as a matter of fact
> there are some people here who definintely deserve it better - any takers??
> it comes with a block of cheese to go with the whine.
>
> Oh and what is this I read about another move for you??? Ugh!
>
> Kelly
>
>

>
> As for the Year from Hell prize - I heard they were going to actually
> start making mine from aluminium foil. The silver cost was getting too
> high. But that is okay because next year I am giving it away - as a
> matter of fact there are some people here who definintely deserve it
> better - any takers?? it comes with a block of cheese to go with the
> whine.
>
> Oh and what is this I read about another move for you??? Ugh!
>
> Kelly

Just remember Kelly, the shiney side goes up!!
:-)
GaryZ

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:33:02 -0500, Nann Bell wrote
(in message <0001HW.C3A9725E00400BB8F0284550@news.east.earthli nk.net>):

> That's all good to hear. Personally, I'm eaving the "Year from Hell"
> competition to others and sugget you try that from now on also!
>
> as for a move, I'll get into that on its own therad.
>
>

Argh! with all the computer changes, we have a new keyboard - and our mac
and pc keyboards have very different feels. Eventually I'll adjust to this
one and there should be fewer dropped letters!

--
Nann
remove the Gator cheer to email me
Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare

thnaks Gary - will remember that. If I do that it might even reflect the
sun a bit and give me some more vitamin D!

I did have an all clear on the infection today so we can rebook the
infusion - hopefully for next week. The interesting thing is that in 12
years of RA my sed rate has always been really low (including when my RA was
so bad I could barely move and my joints were visibly swollen and the "mush"
as my nurse practitioner says was very noticable.) Last month at my check
my sed rate was the highest ever at 16 (and only one swollen joint although
lots of swollen ligaments and tendons. Today my sed rate was 22 - over
range and never ever ever that high. Will be interesting to hear what the
rd says about all that. Another wierd one for me - what else is new.

Will be glad when all this winter stuff is done though - you must be
counting days until golf again Gary.

Kelly
"Gary Z" <dadandone@N_O_S_P_A_Mverizon.net> wrote in message
news:fm2m5v$451$1@usenet.cso.niu.edu...
>
>>
>> As for the Year from Hell prize - I heard they were going to actually
>> start making mine from aluminium foil. The silver cost was getting too
>> high. But that is okay because next year I am giving it away - as a
>> matter of fact there are some people here who definintely deserve it
>> better - any takers?? it comes with a block of cheese to go with the
>> whine.
>>
>> Oh and what is this I read about another move for you??? Ugh!
>>
>> Kelly
>
> Just remember Kelly, the shiney side goes up!!
> :-)
> GaryZ
>