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OTP: Skin Cancer
  1. #1
    Donna G. Guest

    Default OTP: Skin Cancer





    For those of you who have had areas of skin cancer removed, how did you
    have it done and did it take long for it to heal?

    I just had a small are of squamous cell cancer treated with somthing
    called a cryogun on my face. Is that (the cryogun) the freeze stuff?

    The area is now quite red and ugly, but I know it will take some time to
    heal.

    Weird how things can change. I had had the spot of my face for a couple
    of years and it was just the last couple of weeks that I noticed out of
    the blue that it turned so dark and ugly looking. Funny that I never
    noticed it before.

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    Donna
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    1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    call them FRIENDS......


    2.) May God's richest blessings be
    upon you both today and
    throughout the year.
    May His blessings flow through
    you to touch the lives of
    everyone you meet.


  2. #2
    Paul T Holland Guest

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    hey there donna
    i am healing from my third go round over past two years

    been 3 weeks, top of head, forehead, are almost healed

    right forearm, for me, takes a bit longer

    Donna G. wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > For those of you who have had areas of skin cancer removed, how did you
    > have it done and did it take long for it to heal?
    >
    > I just had a small are of squamous cell cancer treated with somthing
    > called a cryogun on my face. Is that (the cryogun) the freeze stuff?
    >
    > The area is now quite red and ugly, but I know it will take some time to
    > heal.
    >
    > Weird how things can change. I had had the spot of my face for a couple
    > of years and it was just the last couple of weeks that I noticed out of
    > the blue that it turned so dark and ugly looking. Funny that I never
    > noticed it before.
    >
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > .
    >
    > Donna
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > 1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    > call them FRIENDS......
    >
    >
    > 2.) May God's richest blessings be
    > upon you both today and
    > throughout the year.
    > May His blessings flow through
    > you to touch the lives of
    > everyone you meet.
    >


  3. #3
    ANN M Guest

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    It took some weeks for the redness to go away, Donna. I've had several
    removed over the years. I have some now I'm sure, but can't find a
    dermatologist. They are all not taking new patients in a 3 city area
    nearby. I think I will have to make up my mind to travel further.
    Ann


  4. #4
    Donna G. Guest

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    Thanks for the info Ann and Paul.

    Wow, Paul, you sound like you have really had quite a few spots removed.

    Hope this latest batch clears up completely for you!

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    Donna
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    1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    call them FRIENDS......


    2.) May God's richest blessings be
    upon you both today and
    throughout the year.
    May His blessings flow through
    you to touch the lives of
    everyone you meet.


  5. #5
    Don Kirkman Guest

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    It seems to me I heard somewhere that Donna G. wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:

    >For those of you who have had areas of skin cancer removed, how did you
    >have it done and did it take long for it to heal?


    >I just had a small are of squamous cell cancer treated with somthing
    >called a cryogun on my face. Is that (the cryogun) the freeze stuff?


    >The area is now quite red and ugly, but I know it will take some time to
    >heal.


    >Weird how things can change. I had had the spot of my face for a couple
    >of years and it was just the last couple of weeks that I noticed out of
    >the blue that it turned so dark and ugly looking. Funny that I never
    >noticed it before.


    I grew up on a farm where we were mostly shoeless and shirtless in the
    long hot summers, and we went hatless as well sometimes.

    I've had three squamous lesions off by surgery, as well as one
    pre-cancerous one around the head and face--one spot was approaching
    the danger stage. For several years I was routinely seeing a
    dermatologist who froze off suspicious spots (actinic keratoses) with
    liquid nitrogen.

    In the past two or three years my PCP has prescribed efudex
    (fluorouracil*), a cream that is applied for two to four weeks (varies
    with skin's sensitivity). It selectively attacks the cancer and
    pre-cancerous cells by interfering with their growth, killing them
    with little or no harm to normal skin. A short time after treatment
    ends the lesions dry up and drop off, replaced by clean new skin.

    My doctor prefers this to nitrogen because there is less discomfort,
    and the effect reaches deeper into the skin than a nitrogen freeze
    does. It also means the patient can self-medicate as needed without
    scheduling a doctor's appointment.

    * A stronger fluorouracil compound has been available as a
    chemotherapy medication for about 40 years.
    --
    Don Kirkman
    [email protected]

  6. #6
    Donna G. Guest

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    Don,


    Like you, I grew up in the country and we spend every waking hour our
    doors pretty much. After slopping the hogs, gathering the eggs, and
    putting in a certain amount of time out in the garden, then you had to
    take care of the fields and work some play time in there as well.

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    Donna
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    1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    call them FRIENDS......


    2.) May God's richest blessings be
    upon you both today and
    throughout the year.
    May His blessings flow through
    you to touch the lives of
    everyone you meet.


  7. #7
    Donna G. Guest

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    Hmmmmmmm...........that is very interesting, Don. Thanks for sharing.

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    Donna
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    1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    call them FRIENDS......


    2.) May God's richest blessings be
    upon you both today and
    throughout the year.
    May His blessings flow through
    you to touch the lives of
    everyone you meet.


  8. #8
    Harvey R. Stone Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer



    >
    > I grew up on a farm where we were mostly shoeless and shirtless in the
    > long hot summers, and we went hatless as well sometimes.
    >


    I knew there was something about you I liked. There is something about a
    person that grew up on a real farm..... Hhhhm, burnt up from the sun,, I
    guess and skin on the bottom of their feet tougher than nails. Did I ever
    tell you about the time that I was bare foot skating on a tar road after a
    rain when I went over some barbed wired in the road,,,, almost through my
    foot. I could not pull it out and cars were coming and going. I pulled up
    about 12 or 14 feet of wire out of the tar and made my way home,,, about 3
    city blocks. Mom called daddy home from work and I just knew I was going
    to get a whippen. He cut off the wire about a foot from my foot and put me
    in the car. Off to the doctors office we went. Old doctor Wensley said we
    had to find out if a barb was inside my foot on a bone. I nearly fainted
    when he said that. He shot my foot about 3 times with something to deaden
    it because there was a barb on the very end of the wire that had gone all
    the way through my foot. He pushed it out the top after making a little cut
    for it to come out of and he snipped the barb off and pulled the wire out of
    my foot the way it went in. I am glad I did not spend any time trying to
    pull it out when I was pinned down on the road.
    I think the tetnous (sp) shot hurt worse than the 3 shots in my foot,,, I
    think. Dad said he was proud of me not raising a fuss in the doctors
    office and I felt very good about him saying that because dad did not hand
    out compliments very often. He said, show me where you were when this
    happened and we drove over there. He could see the marks in the road where
    I had pulled up the wire. All he said was that I was lucky I did not get
    run over by a car. So it goes for a farm boy in the city on a hot rainy
    summer day.

    Harv



  9. #9
    Nann Bell Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer

    On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 8:13:04 -0400, Harvey R. Stone wrote
    (in message <[email protected]>) :

    >
    >
    >>
    >> I grew up on a farm where we were mostly shoeless and shirtless in the
    >> long hot summers, and we went hatless as well sometimes.
    >>

    >
    > I knew there was something about you I liked. There is something about a
    > person that grew up on a real farm..... Hhhhm, burnt up from the sun,, I
    > guess and skin on the bottom of their feet tougher than nails. Did I ever
    > tell you about the time that I was bare foot skating on a tar road after a
    > rain when I went over some barbed wired in the road,,,, (snip painful

    story!)

    Wow, what a story, Harv! That must have hurt like the dickens. You make me
    glad we had no asphalt roads in our neightborhood! (were all tar & limerock
    back then.) This sounds like something I or one of my friends would have
    done if we had the chance. Then again, there was very little barbed wire in
    our area, so we wouldn't have had such a dramatic injury!

    --
    Nann
    remove the Gator cheer to email me
    You can see a lot by just looking --- Yogi Berra


  10. #10
    Don Kirkman Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer

    It seems to me I heard somewhere that Harvey R. Stone wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:

    >I think the tetnous (sp) shot hurt worse than the 3 shots in my foot,,, I
    >think. Dad said he was proud of me not raising a fuss in the doctors
    >office and I felt very good about him saying that because dad did not hand
    >out compliments very often. He said, show me where you were when this
    >happened and we drove over there. He could see the marks in the road where
    >I had pulled up the wire. All he said was that I was lucky I did not get
    >run over by a car. So it goes for a farm boy in the city on a hot rainy
    >summer day.


    Barbed wire and asphalt roads on a hot summer day are two of the
    hazards of summer, even when you don't combine them, Harv. We never
    had barbed wire in our roads; the nearest we had was puncture vines,
    sometimes called goat heads, that grew next to the roads and punctured
    our bike tires or the soles of our feet.
    --
    Don Kirkman
    [email protected]

  11. #11
    Paul T Holland Guest

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    thanks donna - working on it!

    Donna G. wrote:
    >
    >
    > Thanks for the info Ann and Paul.
    >
    > Wow, Paul, you sound like you have really had quite a few spots removed.
    >
    > Hope this latest batch clears up completely for you!
    >
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > .
    >
    > Donna
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > 1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    > call them FRIENDS......
    >
    >
    > 2.) May God's richest blessings be
    > upon you both today and
    > throughout the year.
    > May His blessings flow through
    > you to touch the lives of
    > everyone you meet.
    >


  12. #12
    Paul T Holland Guest

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    hey don

    like you, came off the farm - we're from iowa

    you grow up doing diff tasks based upon how big you are

    start off gathering eggs as soon as your hands and co-ordination is good
    enough so won't break 'em - slopping hogs - shoot anyone is big enough
    to carry scraps out to the pen

    carrying milk pails to the separator

    get to be - oh - about 7 or so and you're big enough to walk ahead of
    the hay wagon and turn the bails up on end so that older brother can
    snag with a hook without having to climb down off the wagon.

    you can't drive the tractor until you're big [and heavy] enough to keep
    the dead man clutch depressed

    worst was having to walk the corn rows cutting out thistle with a corn
    knife [ a type of machete] - made you prefer the barb wire! not to
    mention having to tussle with the possums that thought they had right of
    way.

    did you have hogs? durn things would go right thru 5 strand wire,
    pulling down fence posts to boot, and be out on the road - that where
    having a good dog was necessary to herd 'em back

    re the fluorouracil - i got a heck of kick back - guess i'm one of
    those sensitive to it

    Don Kirkman wrote:
    > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Donna G. wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >> For those of you who have had areas of skin cancer removed, how did you
    >> have it done and did it take long for it to heal?

    >
    >> I just had a small are of squamous cell cancer treated with somthing
    >> called a cryogun on my face. Is that (the cryogun) the freeze stuff?

    >
    >> The area is now quite red and ugly, but I know it will take some time to
    >> heal.

    >
    >> Weird how things can change. I had had the spot of my face for a couple
    >> of years and it was just the last couple of weeks that I noticed out of
    >> the blue that it turned so dark and ugly looking. Funny that I never
    >> noticed it before.

    >
    > I grew up on a farm where we were mostly shoeless and shirtless in the
    > long hot summers, and we went hatless as well sometimes.
    >
    > I've had three squamous lesions off by surgery, as well as one
    > pre-cancerous one around the head and face--one spot was approaching
    > the danger stage. For several years I was routinely seeing a
    > dermatologist who froze off suspicious spots (actinic keratoses) with
    > liquid nitrogen.
    >
    > In the past two or three years my PCP has prescribed efudex
    > (fluorouracil*), a cream that is applied for two to four weeks (varies
    > with skin's sensitivity). It selectively attacks the cancer and
    > pre-cancerous cells by interfering with their growth, killing them
    > with little or no harm to normal skin. A short time after treatment
    > ends the lesions dry up and drop off, replaced by clean new skin.
    >
    > My doctor prefers this to nitrogen because there is less discomfort,
    > and the effect reaches deeper into the skin than a nitrogen freeze
    > does. It also means the patient can self-medicate as needed without
    > scheduling a doctor's appointment.
    >
    > * A stronger fluorouracil compound has been available as a
    > chemotherapy medication for about 40 years.


  13. #13
    Paul T Holland Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer

    harvey - i think there's more than a couple of us farm kids - but
    getting fewer as the youngsters join the grouop and us old fa--- age! <G>

    Harvey R. Stone wrote:
    >> I grew up on a farm where we were mostly shoeless and shirtless in the
    >> long hot summers, and we went hatless as well sometimes.
    >>

    >
    > I knew there was something about you I liked. There is something about a
    > person that grew up on a real farm..... Hhhhm, burnt up from the sun,, I
    > guess and skin on the bottom of their feet tougher than nails. Did I ever
    > tell you about the time that I was bare foot skating on a tar road after a
    > rain when I went over some barbed wired in the road,,,, almost through my
    > foot. I could not pull it out and cars were coming and going. I pulled up
    > about 12 or 14 feet of wire out of the tar and made my way home,,, about 3
    > city blocks. Mom called daddy home from work and I just knew I was going
    > to get a whippen. He cut off the wire about a foot from my foot and put me
    > in the car. Off to the doctors office we went. Old doctor Wensley said we
    > had to find out if a barb was inside my foot on a bone. I nearly fainted
    > when he said that. He shot my foot about 3 times with something to deaden
    > it because there was a barb on the very end of the wire that had gone all
    > the way through my foot. He pushed it out the top after making a little cut
    > for it to come out of and he snipped the barb off and pulled the wire out of
    > my foot the way it went in. I am glad I did not spend any time trying to
    > pull it out when I was pinned down on the road.
    > I think the tetnous (sp) shot hurt worse than the 3 shots in my foot,,, I
    > think. Dad said he was proud of me not raising a fuss in the doctors
    > office and I felt very good about him saying that because dad did not hand
    > out compliments very often. He said, show me where you were when this
    > happened and we drove over there. He could see the marks in the road where
    > I had pulled up the wire. All he said was that I was lucky I did not get
    > run over by a car. So it goes for a farm boy in the city on a hot rainy
    > summer day.
    >
    > Harv
    >
    >


  14. #14
    Donna G. Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer




    LOL............ya know, Paul, I just crack up when my niece, rather
    dramatically tells me how early she has to get up in the morning and
    that no one has ever had to get up THAT early in the morning!!! I tell
    her, we had to not only get up as early, but before you could even take
    your shower, you had to go out and gather the eggs, slop the hogs and
    take care of the other animals. Then you could come in and take your
    shower and get ready for school, and we didn't have parents driving us
    to school or even driving us to the bus stop so we could sit in a nice
    warm vehicle while waiting for the bus. LOL When I tell my niece
    this, she always looks at me like I just grew and extra head and some
    horns as well. LOLOLOL............guess every generation goes through
    that.

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    Donna
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    1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    call them FRIENDS......


    2.) May God's richest blessings be
    upon you both today and
    throughout the year.
    May His blessings flow through
    you to touch the lives of
    everyone you meet.


  15. #15
    Squirrely Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer

    Well Harv, you win in the foot department. I thought it was bad when I got
    spanked for not wearing my shoes in Nov. My parents had told me to keep my
    shoes on when I went to a school bonfire. I didnt and I stepped on rebarb
    and cut my foot pretty good. Put my shoes back on went home got doctored up
    and spanked because I said had my shoes on and my dad turned over my shoe
    and said oh yeah where is the hole where the rebar cut your foot. I never
    made a convincing liar. ;-)

    --
    Love and hugs to all
    Love Squirrely Jo
    "Harvey R. Stone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ...
    >
    >
    >>
    >> I grew up on a farm where we were mostly shoeless and shirtless in the
    >> long hot summers, and we went hatless as well sometimes.
    >>

    >
    > I knew there was something about you I liked. There is something about a
    > person that grew up on a real farm..... Hhhhm, burnt up from the sun,, I
    > guess and skin on the bottom of their feet tougher than nails. Did I
    > ever tell you about the time that I was bare foot skating on a tar road
    > after a rain when I went over some barbed wired in the road,,,, almost
    > through my foot. I could not pull it out and cars were coming and going.
    > I pulled up about 12 or 14 feet of wire out of the tar and made my way
    > home,,, about 3 city blocks. Mom called daddy home from work and I just
    > knew I was going to get a whippen. He cut off the wire about a foot from
    > my foot and put me in the car. Off to the doctors office we went. Old
    > doctor Wensley said we had to find out if a barb was inside my foot on a
    > bone. I nearly fainted when he said that. He shot my foot about 3 times
    > with something to deaden it because there was a barb on the very end of
    > the wire that had gone all the way through my foot. He pushed it out the
    > top after making a little cut for it to come out of and he snipped the
    > barb off and pulled the wire out of my foot the way it went in. I am
    > glad I did not spend any time trying to pull it out when I was pinned down
    > on the road.
    > I think the tetnous (sp) shot hurt worse than the 3 shots in my foot,,, I
    > think. Dad said he was proud of me not raising a fuss in the doctors
    > office and I felt very good about him saying that because dad did not hand
    > out compliments very often. He said, show me where you were when this
    > happened and we drove over there. He could see the marks in the road
    > where I had pulled up the wire. All he said was that I was lucky I did
    > not get run over by a car. So it goes for a farm boy in the city on a
    > hot rainy summer day.
    >
    > Harv
    >
    >




  16. #16
    dhuit Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer


    "Harvey R. Stone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ...


    >
    > I grew up on a farm where we were mostly shoeless and shirtless in the
    > long hot summers, and we went hatless as well sometimes.
    >


    I knew there was something about you I liked. There is something about a
    person that grew up on a real farm..... Hhhhm, burnt up from the sun,, I
    guess and skin on the bottom of their feet tougher than nails. Did I ever
    tell you about the time that I was bare foot skating on a tar road after a
    rain when I went over some barbed wired in the road,,,, almost through my
    foot. I could not pull it out and cars were coming and going. I pulled up
    about 12 or 14 feet of wire out of the tar and made my way home,,, about 3
    city blocks. Mom called daddy home from work and I just knew I was going
    to get a whippen. He cut off the wire about a foot from my foot and put me
    in the car. Off to the doctors office we went. Old doctor Wensley said we
    had to find out if a barb was inside my foot on a bone. I nearly fainted
    when he said that. He shot my foot about 3 times with something to deaden
    it because there was a barb on the very end of the wire that had gone all
    the way through my foot. He pushed it out the top after making a little cut
    for it to come out of and he snipped the barb off and pulled the wire out of
    my foot the way it went in. I am glad I did not spend any time trying to
    pull it out when I was pinned down on the road.
    I think the tetnous (sp) shot hurt worse than the 3 shots in my foot,,, I
    think. Dad said he was proud of me not raising a fuss in the doctors
    office and I felt very good about him saying that because dad did not hand
    out compliments very often. He said, show me where you were when this
    happened and we drove over there. He could see the marks in the road where
    I had pulled up the wire. All he said was that I was lucky I did not get
    run over by a car. So it goes for a farm boy in the city on a hot rainy
    summer day.

    Harv

    sounds like you had a very sensible and good man for a father, harv.

    kate




  17. #17
    dhuit Guest

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    LOL! they all look at us that way, at one time or another, donnag!LOL

    kate


    "Donna G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..



    LOL............ya know, Paul, I just crack up when my niece, rather
    dramatically tells me how early she has to get up in the morning and
    that no one has ever had to get up THAT early in the morning!!! I tell
    her, we had to not only get up as early, but before you could even take
    your shower, you had to go out and gather the eggs, slop the hogs and
    take care of the other animals. Then you could come in and take your
    shower and get ready for school, and we didn't have parents driving us
    to school or even driving us to the bus stop so we could sit in a nice
    warm vehicle while waiting for the bus. LOL When I tell my niece
    this, she always looks at me like I just grew and extra head and some
    horns as well. LOLOLOL............guess every generation goes through
    that.

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    ..

    Donna
    ..
    ..
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    ..
    1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    call them FRIENDS......


    2.) May God's richest blessings be
    upon you both today and
    throughout the year.
    May His blessings flow through
    you to touch the lives of
    everyone you meet.



  18. #18
    dhuit Guest

    Default Re: Skin Cancer


    "Donna G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..




    For those of you who have had areas of skin cancer removed, how did you
    have it done and did it take long for it to heal?

    I just had a small are of squamous cell cancer treated with somthing
    called a cryogun on my face. Is that (the cryogun) the freeze stuff?

    The area is now quite red and ugly, but I know it will take some time to
    heal.

    Weird how things can change. I had had the spot of my face for a couple
    of years and it was just the last couple of weeks that I noticed out of
    the blue that it turned so dark and ugly looking. Funny that I never
    noticed it before.

    ..

    well, my dermatologist kind of just injected the area with lidocaine or some
    such numbing agent. and then, she literally just whacked the mole off the
    bridge of my nose with a scapel. and then, she spray froze the area with
    something that stopped the bleeding instantly. i had been expecting that a
    biopsy on my face would be a bit more ceremonious than that!

    then she handed me a mirror and asked if it looked ok to me. i looked at
    the blur in the mirror and said, "i can hardly tell you did a thing!" i
    intentionally waited for her to put the mirror back on the countertop. and
    then, i asked her for the return of my glasses so i could see. she laughed
    her butt off and said, "you're droll! i didn't expect you to be." and she
    laughed again and handed me the mirror. and i thought . . . should i tell
    her? "no. i'm just short and live in a house." but i didn't.<smile>

    kate
    ..
    ..
    ..

    Donna
    ..
    ..
    ..
    ..
    1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    call them FRIENDS......


    2.) May God's richest blessings be
    upon you both today and
    throughout the year.
    May His blessings flow through
    you to touch the lives of
    everyone you meet.



  19. #19
    Don Kirkman Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer

    It seems to me I heard somewhere that Paul T Holland wrote in article
    <h71g8m$bl1$[email protected]>:

    >hey don


    Hey yourself and every other farmer in here. :-)

    You guys have reminded me again of why we remember that times as the
    good old days. I won't go off into too many more details, but we got
    up early--my dad was an early riser even after he didn't need to be.
    For several years we drove our cows several miles over country road to
    spring pasture for the two or three months the hillside grass was
    lush--and we milked 'em outside by hand rain or shine. When they were
    on the home pasture they came into the barn, but we milked by hand for
    quite a few years before we got machines.

    I rode the hay wagon when I was grammar school age, "helping" to stack
    the hay neatly on the wagon so it wouldn't slide off (no baling for
    us). I shocked hay after it had dried in the fields for a few days,
    and drove our horses pulling the mower and, later, the rake when I was
    about twelve or so. I and my two older brothers irrigated the alfalfa
    and kitchen orchard irrigation ditches moving water from one spot to
    another so everything watered evenly. (We called them "checks," level
    ground surrounded by little levees a foot or two high to hold the
    water in, and irrigated by flooding the checks.)

    We had hogs occasionally for butchering, but not regularly.

    By high school age I was driving the old John Deere (had to crank it
    by pulling the flywheel by hand) plowing or harrowing fields for
    planting. I picked cotton for the next door black family one summer;
    fitty cent cotton don't make no-one rich. :-)

    And that was just the chores, mind you. :-)

    Our two-room school was a learning experience--we usually had about
    fifty or sixty kids in first to eighth grade. In the seven years I
    spent there we had the three black kids from next door only a year or
    so--they were renters--, a couple of Chinese families, two or three
    Japanese kids, three American Indians from a local tribe (one was
    killed his first day on the line in Korea), several Portuguese
    families, and other European types including German and English.

    Ah, good times all. And we're better for it, aren't we?

    >like you, came off the farm - we're from iowa
    >
    >you grow up doing diff tasks based upon how big you are
    >
    >start off gathering eggs as soon as your hands and co-ordination is good
    >enough so won't break 'em - slopping hogs - shoot anyone is big enough
    >to carry scraps out to the pen
    >
    >carrying milk pails to the separator
    >
    >get to be - oh - about 7 or so and you're big enough to walk ahead of
    >the hay wagon and turn the bails up on end so that older brother can
    >snag with a hook without having to climb down off the wagon.
    >
    >you can't drive the tractor until you're big [and heavy] enough to keep
    >the dead man clutch depressed
    >
    >worst was having to walk the corn rows cutting out thistle with a corn
    >knife [ a type of machete] - made you prefer the barb wire! not to
    >mention having to tussle with the possums that thought they had right of
    >way.
    >
    >did you have hogs? durn things would go right thru 5 strand wire,
    >pulling down fence posts to boot, and be out on the road - that where
    >having a good dog was necessary to herd 'em back
    >
    >re the fluorouracil - i got a heck of kick back - guess i'm one of
    >those sensitive to it


    I assume you mean the cream compound?
    --
    Don Kirkman
    [email protected]

  20. #20
    Harvey R. Stone Guest

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    "Don Kirkman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Harvey R. Stone wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >>I think the tetnous (sp) shot hurt worse than the 3 shots in my foot,,, I
    >>think. Dad said he was proud of me not raising a fuss in the doctors
    >>office and I felt very good about him saying that because dad did not hand
    >>out compliments very often. He said, show me where you were when this
    >>happened and we drove over there. He could see the marks in the road
    >>where
    >>I had pulled up the wire. All he said was that I was lucky I did not get
    >>run over by a car. So it goes for a farm boy in the city on a hot rainy
    >>summer day.

    >
    > Barbed wire and asphalt roads on a hot summer day are two of the
    > hazards of summer, even when you don't combine them, Harv. We never
    > had barbed wire in our roads; the nearest we had was puncture vines,
    > sometimes called goat heads, that grew next to the roads and punctured
    > our bike tires or the soles of our feet.
    > --
    > Don Kirkman
    > [email protected]


    East Texas roads are made up of sand and oil tar. It makes a firm road but
    not a firm as asphalt. In the winter, I could not of pulled up the barbed
    wire. In the summer it is a whole lot softer road. Who knows where the
    wire came from. I have not seen it before or after this happened. :-) I
    can not even find the scar now. The doctor cleaned the hole several times
    and no infection.......
    Harv



  21. #21
    Harvey R. Stone Guest

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    > did you have hogs? durn things would go right thru 5 strand wire, pulling
    > down fence posts to boot, and be out on the road - that where having a
    > good dog was necessary to herd 'em back
    >


    Oh, that beings back a memory. My father in law always put the hog that
    was in his final days in a pen that had three rails. One day my BIL was
    going to do the final shot to kill the hog and missed the kill shot and sure
    POed the hog. My FIL was 80 years old at the time and in the pen when he
    made the bad shot. LOL He put one hand on the top board and he cleared that
    pen. The hog came smashing into the fence breaking two of those 1-6 boards
    and when he tried to back up they pinched on him holding the hog still for a
    second or two which was long enough for my BIL to put a shot in his brain.
    We already had the 50 gallon barrel boiling with hot water ready to scald
    the hair off the hog. Roy and I pulled that hog up with a block and tackle
    and had dipped him twice and began the scraping when my FIL returned with a
    fifth of Old Crow having hit it a couple of times. Roy kept saying he was
    sorry for the bad shot. Old Carl said that if there is blood in the
    sausage,,, it was his part. I told him to go easy on that whiskey if he
    was going to do the hog. He just grumbled something about having not moved
    that fast in 20 years. Roy and I strung up the hog and Carl went to work
    on him and he was fast,,,,, real fast with that blade. I was just standing
    there not doing anything when he turned and said,,, hold out your hand,,, I
    did. Whap,,,, a hot liver,,, he said take that up to the house and don't
    let any of that bile get on the meat. I did that while that bile ran down
    off my arm to the elbow. My arm had a yellow streak down it for two months.
    Yeah they looked at it but never said anything. :-)
    Harv



  22. #22
    Harvey R. Stone Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer


    "Paul T Holland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:h71h88$igg$[email protected]..
    > harvey - i think there's more than a couple of us farm kids - but getting
    > fewer as the youngsters join the grouop and us old fa--- age! <G>
    >


    Yes, and something is lost. Neighbor helping neighbor,,,, sharing at a
    time of loss,,, being there when you are needed without being asked.
    America is changing and not for the better but that is another story.
    Harv



  23. #23
    Harvey R. Stone Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer


    "Squirrely" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4a945913$0$2005$[email protected]..
    > Well Harv, you win in the foot department. I thought it was bad when I got
    > spanked for not wearing my shoes in Nov. My parents had told me to keep my
    > shoes on when I went to a school bonfire. I didnt and I stepped on rebarb
    > and cut my foot pretty good. Put my shoes back on went home got doctored
    > up and spanked because I said had my shoes on and my dad turned over my
    > shoe and said oh yeah where is the hole where the rebar cut your foot. I
    > never made a convincing liar. ;-)
    >
    > --
    > Love and hugs to all
    > Love Squirrely Jo


    Don't feel bad,,, I never got away with a fib and paid for telling,,,,,
    every time, even when I was 20 years old and married. LOL
    Harv

    Ps not going to tell that story....



  24. #24
    Harvey R. Stone Guest

    Default Re: OTP: Skin Cancer


    "dhuit" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:h71prs$p1d$[email protected]..
    >
    > "Harvey R. Stone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected] ...
    >
    >
    >>
    >> I grew up on a farm where we were mostly shoeless and shirtless in the
    >> long hot summers, and we went hatless as well sometimes.
    >>

    >
    > I knew there was something about you I liked. There is something about a
    > person that grew up on a real farm..... Hhhhm, burnt up from the sun,, I
    > guess and skin on the bottom of their feet tougher than nails. Did I
    > ever
    > tell you about the time that I was bare foot skating on a tar road after a
    > rain when I went over some barbed wired in the road,,,, almost through my
    > foot. I could not pull it out and cars were coming and going. I pulled
    > up
    > about 12 or 14 feet of wire out of the tar and made my way home,,, about 3
    > city blocks. Mom called daddy home from work and I just knew I was going
    > to get a whippen. He cut off the wire about a foot from my foot and put
    > me
    > in the car. Off to the doctors office we went. Old doctor Wensley said
    > we
    > had to find out if a barb was inside my foot on a bone. I nearly fainted
    > when he said that. He shot my foot about 3 times with something to
    > deaden
    > it because there was a barb on the very end of the wire that had gone all
    > the way through my foot. He pushed it out the top after making a little
    > cut
    > for it to come out of and he snipped the barb off and pulled the wire out
    > of
    > my foot the way it went in. I am glad I did not spend any time trying to
    > pull it out when I was pinned down on the road.
    > I think the tetnous (sp) shot hurt worse than the 3 shots in my foot,,, I
    > think. Dad said he was proud of me not raising a fuss in the doctors
    > office and I felt very good about him saying that because dad did not hand
    > out compliments very often. He said, show me where you were when this
    > happened and we drove over there. He could see the marks in the road
    > where
    > I had pulled up the wire. All he said was that I was lucky I did not get
    > run over by a car. So it goes for a farm boy in the city on a hot rainy
    > summer day.
    >
    > Harv
    >
    > sounds like you had a very sensible and good man for a father, harv.
    >
    > kate


    He was but he was a hard, hard man who never told you something twice
    without you paying for it,,, right then.
    Harv



  25. #25
    Donna G. Guest

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    Don't think I realized we had so many good ole country farm people here!

    ..
    ..
    ..
    ..

    Donna
    ..
    ..
    ..
    ..
    1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    call them FRIENDS......


    2.) May God's richest blessings be
    upon you both today and
    throughout the year.
    May His blessings flow through
    you to touch the lives of
    everyone you meet.


  26. #26
    janers Guest

    Default Re: Skin Cancer

    My hubby has had 4 of them removed at different times, with different ways.
    Most of the time the dermy numbs the area and cuts it out. Then tells him
    to keep it dry and apply antibiotic ointment to it. Usually it will start
    to look ugly with yellow center then start to dry up and turn a brownish
    color. Once that scab comes off there is the area where doc removed the
    squamous cell ca and it looks like it is a RED to light brown colored
    spot...for a long long time.
    Depends on how deep it was to end up saying how long it will heal.

    His was on his back, his arm and one on middle of his chest.

    He has also had precancerous lesions burned with that dry ice type stuff.
    Where it looks like it is smokin!! Well that burns it off and then again
    it is not deep so it don't take too long but the color changes are pretty
    much like the above. Do not pick it off, let it dry and fall off...
    He again used antibiotic ointment to keep it from getting infected. NO
    bandaide on his face but he did have to on the other 3 lesions. I bet he
    has had about 8 to 10 of them removed on his face, ears, neck and those
    areas.

    Give it time....
    good luck
    janers



  27. #27
    Donna G. Guest

    Default Re: Skin Cancer




    Thanks, Janers!

    ..
    ..
    ..
    ..

    Donna
    ..
    ..
    ..
    ..
    1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    call them FRIENDS......


    2.) May God's richest blessings be
    upon you both today and
    throughout the year.
    May His blessings flow through
    you to touch the lives of
    everyone you meet.


  28. #28
    loujeanb Guest

    Default Re: Skin Cancer

    Mom has had a couple on her nose and it takes about three weeks to heal up
    to the point where it's not so noticeable. Then, if you are unlucky, the
    dermy scrapes the area around it to make sure she got it all! So, that
    means another three weeks or so to heal up the second time. Mom used a
    bandaid on her face. I haven't had one of those yet, I take that back, I've
    had a couple of suspicious spots taken off and checked. One was above my
    eyebrow and I still have a scar there. I've been using one of those "scar
    off" things and it works fairly well, though very slow. It is getting less
    obvious. Of course, it is more obvious to me than to other people. It
    won't take long, Donna, and I think everybody knows what they are by now, so
    their sympathy is with you. It'll get better. I don't like the gun, but I
    think the dermy does! I think she has fun with it. Mom and I call it our
    once a year facial. LOL

    --
    Navy
    Take out the FISH to email me.
    "Donna G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > For those of you who have had areas of skin cancer removed, how did you
    > have it done and did it take long for it to heal?
    >
    > I just had a small are of squamous cell cancer treated with somthing
    > called a cryogun on my face. Is that (the cryogun) the freeze stuff?
    >
    > The area is now quite red and ugly, but I know it will take some time to
    > heal.
    >
    > Weird how things can change. I had had the spot of my face for a couple
    > of years and it was just the last couple of weeks that I noticed out of
    > the blue that it turned so dark and ugly looking. Funny that I never
    > noticed it before.
    >
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > .
    >
    > Donna
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > 1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    > call them FRIENDS......
    >
    >
    > 2.) May God's richest blessings be
    > upon you both today and
    > throughout the year.
    > May His blessings flow through
    > you to touch the lives of
    > everyone you meet.
    >




  29. #29
    MZB Guest

    Default Re: Skin Cancer

    Had a small basal cell from my wrist excised. It took 4 weeks to totally
    heal

    Mel
    "Donna G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > For those of you who have had areas of skin cancer removed, how did you
    > have it done and did it take long for it to heal?
    >
    > I just had a small are of squamous cell cancer treated with somthing
    > called a cryogun on my face. Is that (the cryogun) the freeze stuff?
    >
    > The area is now quite red and ugly, but I know it will take some time to
    > heal.
    >
    > Weird how things can change. I had had the spot of my face for a couple
    > of years and it was just the last couple of weeks that I noticed out of
    > the blue that it turned so dark and ugly looking. Funny that I never
    > noticed it before.
    >
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > .
    >
    > Donna
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > 1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    > call them FRIENDS......
    >
    >
    > 2.) May God's richest blessings be
    > upon you both today and
    > throughout the year.
    > May His blessings flow through
    > you to touch the lives of
    > everyone you meet.
    >




  30. #30
    Peter Guest

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    On 25 Aug, 04:09, DKGBee...@webtv.net (Donna G.) wrote:
    > Thanks for the info Ann and Paul.
    >
    > Wow, Paul, you sound like you have really had quite a few spots removed. *
    >
    > Hope this latest batch clears up completely for you!
    >
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > .
    >
    > Donna
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > .
    > 1.) * ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
    > call them FRIENDS......
    >
    > 2.) * *May God's richest blessings be
    > upon you both today and
    > throughout the year.
    > May His blessings flow through
    > you to touch the lives of
    > everyone you meet.


    The cryo just freezes it with liquid nitrogen and kills the offending
    cells.
    Might have to be done again, but usually heals in two to three weeks.
    As far as I can see it is a very effective way of treating small moles
    etc.

    Peter

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