OTP: Who is in Australia?

From: "Alan Erskine"
Newsgroups: alt.firefighters, alt.wildland.firefighting
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007
Subject: Victorian Fires Update - 07-01-08


Fires in Eastern Victoria have now burned (2,230,904 acres)
since being started by lightening strikes at the beginning of
December.

--
Alan Erskine

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From: "Alan Erskine"
Newsgroups: alt.firefighters, alt.wildland.firefighting
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007
Subject: Victorian Fires Update - 07-01-09


Temperatures are expected to soar into the high 30's and low 40's (100+
F)
in the next two days, with the possibility of strong winds. Visibility
in
Melbourne, normally up to 60km, was just 3km today due to smoke from
fires
over 250km away.

--
Alan Erskine

I'm in Australia, but I'm in Sydney, New South Wales. With the drought
biting so hard after so many years without rain, the situation is really
critical. (I save my laundry water to water my plants). Although
Victoria is having it bad with the bushfires, it is slightly better in
New South Wales. Still, we have 2 more months to ride out the summer
heat! But some days it has been cool -- a breather. The weather is
really "unpredictable". And weather north of the equator is not much
better, is it?

When are our politicians going to get serious about global warming???



--
Sanchona
http://www.sanchona.com
"A Family Of Strangers" ISBN: 1-59414-543-1
Published by Five Star/Thomson Gale Publishing



Fire Chief wrote:
>
> From: "Alan Erskine"
> Newsgroups: alt.firefighters, alt.wildland.firefighting
> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007
> Subject: Victorian Fires Update - 07-01-08
>
> Fires in Eastern Victoria have now burned (2,230,904 acres)
> since being started by lightening strikes at the beginning of
> December.
>
> --
> Alan Erskine
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: "Alan Erskine"
> Newsgroups: alt.firefighters, alt.wildland.firefighting
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007
> Subject: Victorian Fires Update - 07-01-09
>
> Temperatures are expected to soar into the high 30's and low 40's (100+
> F)
> in the next two days, with the possibility of strong winds. Visibility
> in
> Melbourne, normally up to 60km, was just 3km today due to smoke from
> fires
> over 250km away.
>
> --
> Alan Erskine

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:39:56 -0800, Sanchona <sanchona@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
alt.support.arthritis:

>When are our politicians going to get serious about global warming???

About the same time ours here in Canada are. When they're driven screaming and
kicking to do it.
---
Joan

i live in canberra, and for the past 6 weeks, I have been suffering
from the smokes coming from victoria and neighbouring NSW borders. I
have asthma and emyhsema. On Friday, the temperature reached 40
degrees. I thought that was it, I was going to die. Saturday night was
mad, cold wind we had to close all windows. today was tolelarable. I
also suffer from arthritis, osteoarthritis, poor circulation, high
blood pressure and cholestrol. In summer I am ok with these symtoms,
but I suffer from the bloody bushfires and i can't do anything during
this period. We have bad smokes coming from Victoria on Monday and
tuesday and then later on we had smokes coming from cooma and lake
george. It is never ending.
On the subject of water, we are a family of 5 and in the summer we need
showers everday. the water bill keeps sky rocketing every year. I save
the water from the dishes and use it for the flowers. Over the past 5
years I have lost all my plants except for the roses who seem to want
to stay there. As for Victoria, I really feel bad for them and
especially the firefighters who have been there since December. Thanks
to you guys for saving lives and properties. we love you dearly.our
politicians just started now after years of drought to consider other
options. We are so far behind, the world is behind in saving the
planet, yet they kill everyone to get their hands on OIL. STUFF YOU
LEADERS.
Sanchona wrote:
> I'm in Australia, but I'm in Sydney, New South Wales. With the drought
> biting so hard after so many years without rain, the situation is really
> critical. (I save my laundry water to water my plants). Although
> Victoria is having it bad with the bushfires, it is slightly better in
> New South Wales. Still, we have 2 more months to ride out the summer
> heat! But some days it has been cool -- a breather. The weather is
> really "unpredictable". And weather north of the equator is not much
> better, is it?
>
> When are our politicians going to get serious about global warming???
>
>
>
> --
> Sanchona
> http://www.sanchona.com
> "A Family Of Strangers" ISBN: 1-59414-543-1
> Published by Five Star/Thomson Gale Publishing
>
>
>
> Fire Chief wrote:
> >
> > From: "Alan Erskine"
> > Newsgroups: alt.firefighters, alt.wildland.firefighting
> > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007
> > Subject: Victorian Fires Update - 07-01-08
> >
> > Fires in Eastern Victoria have now burned (2,230,904 acres)
> > since being started by lightening strikes at the beginning of
> > December.
> >
> > --
> > Alan Erskine
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Alan Erskine"
> > Newsgroups: alt.firefighters, alt.wildland.firefighting
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007
> > Subject: Victorian Fires Update - 07-01-09
> >
> > Temperatures are expected to soar into the high 30's and low 40's (100+
> > F)
> > in the next two days, with the possibility of strong winds. Visibility
> > in
> > Melbourne, normally up to 60km, was just 3km today due to smoke from
> > fires
> > over 250km away.
> >
> > --
> > Alan Erskine

zena wrote:
> i live in canberra, and for the past 6 weeks, I have been suffering
> from the smokes coming from victoria and neighbouring NSW borders. I
> have asthma and emyhsema. On Friday, the temperature reached 40
> degrees. I thought that was it, I was going to die. Saturday night was
> mad, cold wind we had to close all windows. today was tolelarable. I
> also suffer from arthritis, osteoarthritis, poor circulation, high
> blood pressure and cholestrol. In summer I am ok with these symtoms,
> but I suffer from the bloody bushfires and i can't do anything during
> this period. We have bad smokes coming from Victoria on Monday and
> tuesday and then later on we had smokes coming from cooma and lake
> george. It is never ending.
> On the subject of water, we are a family of 5 and in the summer we need
> showers everday. the water bill keeps sky rocketing every year. I save
> the water from the dishes and use it for the flowers. Over the past 5
> years I have lost all my plants except for the roses who seem to want
> to stay there. As for Victoria, I really feel bad for them and
> especially the firefighters who have been there since December. Thanks
> to you guys for saving lives and properties. we love you dearly.our
> politicians just started now after years of drought to consider other
> options. We are so far behind, the world is behind in saving the
> planet, yet they kill everyone to get their hands on OIL. STUFF YOU
> LEADERS.

WA here (Perth) and our summer has been crazy. From warm to cold and
wintery and now very hot (42 today). We haven't had terrible bush fires
yet, and we're in a suburb removed from bushland, but when the fires do
happen our area is blanketed in smoke that just seems to form a pocket
and takes a long time to dissipate.

At least this year they've extended the sprinkler ban to certain days of
the week for bore owners as well in order to reduce the drain on the
water table. I'm not sure if the reservoir and the bore water tables
even effect each other, though, so this may be a not so good thing. They
might have done this so there's no need to spend the money on extra
enforcement where people running bores were getting fined as well as
people breaking the sprinkler ban, and then having to use more man hours
to weed out the two groups.

Ari


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>
> At least this year they've extended the sprinkler ban to certain days of
> the week for bore owners as well in order to reduce the drain on the water
> table. I'm not sure if the reservoir and the bore water tables even effect
> each other, though, so this may be a not so good thing. They might have
> done this so there's no need to spend the money on extra enforcement where
> people running bores were getting fined as well as people breaking the
> sprinkler ban, and then having to use more man hours to weed out the two
> groups.
>
> Ari
>
Hi Ari,
Is this an el nino thing? I read yesterday that the forecasters believe it
has peaked and will now start to dissipate. Things should get back to normal
some. Who knows what effect low-term drought has on weather though. I'm no
weather man, but I play one on tv! (Was a weather person in the Navy so I
have some rudimentary knowledge.) I also read where global warming is
supposed to cause our deserts to expand here. Living in the northern
country, I personally have welcomed the warmer winters. Doc said yesterday
though he wished for some freezing temps to kill some of the germs going
around. They have been unusually buried with troubles this year.
GaryZ

WA here (Perth) and our summer has been crazy. From warm to cold and
wintery and now very hot (42 today). We haven't had terrible bush fires
yet, and we're in a suburb removed from bushland, but when the fires do
happen our area is blanketed in smoke that just seems to form a pocket
and takes a long time to dissipate.

>
> At least this year they've extended the sprinkler ban to certain days
> of the week for bore owners as well in order to reduce the drain on
> the water table. I'm not sure if the reservoir and the bore water
> tables even effect each other, though, so this may be a not so good
> thing. They might have done this so there's no need to spend the money
> on extra enforcement where people running bores were getting fined as
> well as people breaking the sprinkler ban, and then having to use more
> man hours to weed out the two groups.
>
> Ari
>
> I am from Willagee (Perth suburb) live here in Tucson AZ. My sister
> sent an article regarding a desalinization plant being built by
> Kwinana. Should help eventually.


Lyn

zena wrote:

> I have asthma and emyhsema.


Funny how you never mentioned that when you spammed
the group 2 months ago with your supplement crap.

Tues, Nov 7 2006 2:13 am

Hi friends

A few months ago, I closed down my business due
to several reasons.
The major reason that I could not longer physically
operate it. I have been diagnosed with arthritis first
and then osteoarthritis.


.... Why don't you sue your brain for non-support?

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 8:21:32 -0500, GARY Z wrote
(in message <w7qqh.9073$Ch1.4180@trndny04>):

> Hi Ari,
> Is this an el nino thing? I read yesterday that the forecasters believe it
> has peaked and will now start to dissipate. Things should get back to normal
> some. Who knows what effect low-term drought has on weather though. I'm no
> weather man, but I play one on tv! (Was a weather person in the Navy so I
> have some rudimentary knowledge.) I also read where global warming is
> supposed to cause our deserts to expand here. Living in the northern
> country, I personally have welcomed the warmer winters. Doc said yesterday
> though he wished for some freezing temps to kill some of the germs going
> around. They have been unusually buried with troubles this year.
> GaryZ
>
>

I know it seems like every kind of crud is going around up here and at my
mom's in FLorida we had 2 or 3 viruses in the house. I'm still trying to get
over this nasty one that my mom's doc says "pretends it's the flu". I had a
real scare for about 12 hours when my fever was 101.7 and didn't respond to
tylenol. We were set to call the doc in the morning, but it finally came
down.

It seems too that a lot of folks have had major health things happen over the
past month. I'm beginning to wonder if this weird weather completely throws
off our bodies.

well, the tip of the mitt finally got some snow last night and we're finally
predicted to stay below freezing all week - weather we should have had for
the past month. STill, southern Michigan had more snow than we did and the
upper peninsula got almost none. sigh...... we still want to snow shoe at
the falls this winter - winter must arrive up there some time - it was a dry
summer for them and they need winter moisture.

--
Nann
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Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare

It has been raining & warm here in TN. My daffodils are coming up out
of the ground - it is waaaay too early.

We have a cold front moving through today, which should wreak all kinds
of havoc, since it has been raining for the past 3 days - we will
probably get iced in. Fun, fun.

I am hoping that the freeze will kill off all the germs, though -
everyone in my office has been sick, including me. I don't want to
spend any more time off my Humira this winter - it hurts too much.

Shannnon

GARY Z wrote:
>> At least this year they've extended the sprinkler ban to certain days of
>> the week for bore owners as well in order to reduce the drain on the water
>> table. I'm not sure if the reservoir and the bore water tables even effect
>> each other, though, so this may be a not so good thing. They might have
>> done this so there's no need to spend the money on extra enforcement where
>> people running bores were getting fined as well as people breaking the
>> sprinkler ban, and then having to use more man hours to weed out the two
>> groups.
>>
>> Ari
>>
> Hi Ari,
> Is this an el nino thing?

Seems like a global warming thing. Not to open the kettle of worms
regarding the 20k year cycle theory of temperature fluctuations or
carbon emissions as being the source.

Australia's weather is generally becoming warmer and drier, like we
needed that! This is on average, so in Perth we may not be getting the
more severe heat waves, but our winters are not as cold, bringing the
average up.

The weather is just odd, and each year it gets more unusual from the way
this place has been since colonisation.

> I read yesterday that the forecasters believe it
> has peaked and will now start to dissipate. Things should get back to normal
> some. Who knows what effect low-term drought has on weather though. I'm no
> weather man, but I play one on tv! (Was a weather person in the Navy so I
> have some rudimentary knowledge.)

The drought is destroying our farming communities over east.

> I also read where global warming is
> supposed to cause our deserts to expand here. Living in the northern
> country, I personally have welcomed the warmer winters. Doc said yesterday
> though he wished for some freezing temps to kill some of the germs going
> around. They have been unusually buried with troubles this year.

Climate change is going to make a lot of changes all across the
ecosystem, including microorganisms. We're already fighting a lot of man
made environmental damage in Australia (salinity, etc) without having
climate change to really stick the boot in. The Australian ecosystems
are more fragile than people might expect, due in part to the long
evolutionary isolation of this continent.

Regards,

Ari



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Reminds me of Larry too. Thanks.




Fire Chief wrote:
>
> zena wrote:
>
> > I have asthma and emyhsema.
>
> Funny how you never mentioned that when you spammed
> the group 2 months ago with your supplement crap.
>
> Tues, Nov 7 2006 2:13 am
>
> Hi friends
>
> A few months ago, I closed down my business due
> to several reasons.
> The major reason that I could not longer physically
> operate it. I have been diagnosed with arthritis first
> and then osteoarthritis.
>
> ... Why don't you sue your brain for non-support?

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http://www.sanchona.com
http://www.myspace.com/sanchona
"A Family Of Strangers" ISBN: 1-59414-543-1
Published by Five Star/Thomson Gale Publishing

Lyn wrote:

> WA here (Perth) and our summer has been crazy.

Lyn, I thought you were in Tucson, Arizona.

Is there another "Lyn" in the group? <g>


.... As American as English muffins and French toast.

Fire Chief wrote:

> Lyn, I thought you were in Tucson, Arizona.
>
> Is there another "Lyn" in the group? <g>
>
>
>... As American as English muffins and French toast.
>
>
Just like to confuse the issue when ever possible. Yes, I live here in
Tucson, but I am from Perth, Western Australia. My family is in
Australia, just my husband's family here. Sometimes I don't know where
I belong.

Lyn

You belong in asa!
GaryZ

"Lyn" <aussielyn@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:12r02rkd92a4c16@corp.supernews.com...
> Fire Chief wrote:
>
>> Lyn, I thought you were in Tucson, Arizona.
>>
>> Is there another "Lyn" in the group? <g>
>>
>>
>>... As American as English muffins and French toast.
>>
> Just like to confuse the issue when ever possible. Yes, I live here in
> Tucson, but I am from Perth, Western Australia. My family is in
> Australia, just my husband's family here. Sometimes I don't know where I
> belong.
>
> Lyn

GARY Z wrote:

>You belong in asa!
>GaryZ
>
>
>
Good answer. Thanks.

Lyn