prayers would be much appreciated

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 2:17:28 -0400, Carole wrote
(in message <6e5i3oF5da8pU1@mid.individual.net>):

> A lot of people are finding that out and we are now on the list of the
> top ten places to live in the US.

A, it's awful when a good place gets "discovered"! I remember the years
Gainesville was high on Money magazines top cities there was serious conflict
for all of us. We were proud to have it recognized, but we really didn't
want everyone and his brother moving in. Growth is already big enough with
folks coming for school and never quite leaving because they like it so much.
--
Nann
remove the Gator cheer to email me
Change everything. Love & forgive.

shenmei9wise@gmail.com wrote:

> Carole,
> I am so considering it!
>
> m

How is this for convincing? :-))))

http://www.carolemay.com/images/MtBaker.jpg

Carole

"Carole" <TheNewCarole@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> shenmei9wise@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Carole,
>> I am so considering it!
>>
>> m
>
> How is this for convincing? :-))))
>
> http://www.carolemay.com/images/MtBaker.jpg
>
> Carole

Quit trying to lure her into Washington!lol

M, Oregon has no sales tax, and somebody else always pumps your gas for you.

There, that oughta do it.LOL

Kelly C.

We had such a late spring this year, that we're all hoping we also have a
longer than usual summer. Otherwise, all these plants will die before
they're ready to harvest.

It has been an interesting weather year, to be sure. And not always in a
good way.

Kelly C.

"Nann Bell" <hanbellGOGATORS@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C4A36DFC0287C6CBF0284550@news.east.ear thlink.net...
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:56:11 -0400, Kelly C. wrote
> (in message <kcmdnXgcH64TJ-HVnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com>):
>
>> Mom has a big garden every year, but grows mainly tomatoes, beans, peas,
>> and
>> squash.
>
> I had to admit defeat this year - keeping up with a larger vegetable
> garden
> has been too difficult the past two years. I'm back to just peppers &
> tomatoes - and the perennial asparagus bed. I can load up on summer squash
> from other locals - if the weather will co-operate! I never did get peas
> to
> take off sadly. Uless there's a big change before next summer, I'll just
> do
> a container garden on the deck then as weeding even the smaller garden as
> become a lick & a promise type thing. It's time to let the grass take
> over
> again.
>>
>> Yesterday Rach and I made a box cheesecake, but I made a compote out of
>> fresh blueberries from my neighbor's yard.
>
> Yum! We're still waiting for decent raspberry picking weather. Had big
> storms last night, which probably ruined the Mosquito Barrier i sprayed
> yesterday morning. The 60% chance day, we had no rain. The 30% chance,
> we
> had severe storms. Murphy strikes again!
> --
> Nann
> remove the Gator cheer to email me
> Change everything. Love & forgive.
>
>

On Jul 16, 9:30 am, "Kelly C." <kellc...@hotmail.comspamtrap> wrote:
> "Carole" <TheNewCar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6e6i3fF5hmcgU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > shenmei9w...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> Carole,
> >> I am so considering it!
>
> >> m
>
> > How is this for convincing? :-))))
>
> >http://www.carolemay.com/images/MtBaker.jpg
>
> > Carole
>
> Quit trying to lure her into Washington!lol
>
> M, Oregon has no sales tax, and somebody else always pumps your gas for you.
>
> There, that oughta do it.LOL
>
> Kelly C.

here's the thing-do you guys get winter? I mean the "snow can't go
out too rainy" sort of winter? I am so cold weather phobic. I am
dead in cold-however if it is 110 I am very very happy. I have had
the best time in the micro climate of the Santa Cruz Mountains which
is above the fog line and often hits 90 and at least 15 times a summer
is 100+. Back in the days when I could not imagine not having money
(you know, three years ago before Megan's medical bills and my 22,000
a year insurance-those days) I always thought I would live in Arkansas
in the spring, summer and fall and head on over to Arizona in the
winter. Yes Carole, bellingham is gorgeous but that is snow on that
mountain!

DeeTee, I know that Ohio is cold in the winter

However, I do know that I can handle Vancouver in the winter and
Seattle for that matter.

Well the beat goes on...

Diane,

How do you feel about the Pacific ocean? I have never been an
Atlantic sort of person with the exception of the Floriday Keys, but
you made me almost want to at least visit!

m

Well, it was worth a shot. I also remembered after posting that we have a
cot. I have absolutely no idea why we have so many sleeping possibilities.
When we make our next move (in a few years from now), I think we'll do away
with so many variations.

DeeTee

<lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cd1dbb15-c0e3-445b-a8d0-c32b1461c575@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 16, 9:30 am, "Kelly C." <kellc...@hotmail.comspamtrap> wrote:
>> "Carole" <TheNewCar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:6e6i3fF5hmcgU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> > shenmei9w...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >> Carole,
>> >> I am so considering it!
>>
>> >> m
>>
>> > How is this for convincing? :-))))
>>
>> >http://www.carolemay.com/images/MtBaker.jpg
>>
>> > Carole
>>
>> Quit trying to lure her into Washington!lol
>>
>> M, Oregon has no sales tax, and somebody else always pumps your gas for
>> you.
>>
>> There, that oughta do it.LOL
>>
>> Kelly C.
>
> here's the thing-do you guys get winter? I mean the "snow can't go
> out too rainy" sort of winter? I am so cold weather phobic. I am
> dead in cold-however if it is 110 I am very very happy. I have had
> the best time in the micro climate of the Santa Cruz Mountains which
> is above the fog line and often hits 90 and at least 15 times a summer
> is 100+. Back in the days when I could not imagine not having money
> (you know, three years ago before Megan's medical bills and my 22,000
> a year insurance-those days) I always thought I would live in Arkansas
> in the spring, summer and fall and head on over to Arizona in the
> winter. Yes Carole, bellingham is gorgeous but that is snow on that
> mountain!
>
> DeeTee, I know that Ohio is cold in the winter
>
> However, I do know that I can handle Vancouver in the winter and
> Seattle for that matter.
>
> Well the beat goes on...
>

<lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f176038f-8902-4d2f-8fdd-9744d8fa1fff@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Diane,
>
> How do you feel about the Pacific ocean? I have never been an
> Atlantic sort of person with the exception of the Floriday Keys, but
> you made me almost want to at least visit!
>
> m

Di, she would so love Cape Hatteras. You tell her about it!

Of course I love the Atlantic. And real beaches.

Jo

bite your tongue Kelly, we have already had too many days above 100 and I am
so ready for fall months. so don't curse us here. ;0)


--
Love and hugs to all
Love Squirrely

> We had such a late spring this year, that we're all hoping we also have a
> longer than usual summer. Otherwise, all these plants will die before
> they're ready to harvest.
>
> It has been an interesting weather year, to be sure. And not always in a
> good way.
>
> Kelly C.

you would love it here then M, so come on over and get a place. We could be
neighbors. LOL

we have had so many above 100 days already I am not doing good with it this
year at all for some reason. we had two days of 111, and 112 right up your
alley.


--
Love and hugs to all
Love Squirrely
>
> here's the thing-do you guys get winter? I mean the "snow can't go
> out too rainy" sort of winter? I am so cold weather phobic. I am
> dead in cold-however if it is 110 I am very very happy. I have had
> the best time in the micro climate of the Santa Cruz Mountains which
> is above the fog line and often hits 90 and at least 15 times a summer
> is 100+. Back in the days when I could not imagine not having money
> (you know, three years ago before Megan's medical bills and my 22,000
> a year insurance-those days) I always thought I would live in Arkansas
> in the spring, summer and fall and head on over to Arizona in the
> winter. Yes Carole, bellingham is gorgeous but that is snow on that
> mountain!
>
> DeeTee, I know that Ohio is cold in the winter
>
> However, I do know that I can handle Vancouver in the winter and
> Seattle for that matter.
>
> Well the beat goes on...
>

lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com wrote:

> Diane,
>
> How do you feel about the Pacific ocean? I have never been an
> Atlantic sort of person with the exception of the Floriday Keys, but
> you made me almost want to at least visit!
>
> m

The Atlantic is nice. I used to LOVE to go out to Montauk Point when I
lived on Long Island. It's not like the Pacific though...they don't have
orcas

Carole

lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com wrote:

> winter. Yes Carole, bellingham is gorgeous but that is snow on that
> mountain!

Yes, there is snow on the mountain, but you're not going up there,
believe me! In fact, you can only go so far and then no farther (unless
you are into mountain climbing with snow shoes, LOL I drove up there
last March and could only drive a certain distance and then the roads
were closed. It was nice here, and freezing up there. So the snow on the
mountain is nice to look at but we don't get it here. We get rain

Carole

> The Atlantic is nice. But the Pacific has these:

http://www.carolemay.com/images/L41_maleorca_small.jpg

Me
who LOVES them!

Cowichan Bay in BC Canada has this
http://www.cowichanbay.com/gallery.p...hoto%20Gallery and it is
on the Pacific side. Those whales of Carole's go right by us! Of course we
also have very little cold in the winter (not that you could tell this
year), vineyards near by, lots of B & B's, kayacking etc. Near perfect!

Kelly

"Carole" <TheNewCarole@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>> The Atlantic is nice. But the Pacific has these:
>
> http://www.carolemay.com/images/L41_maleorca_small.jpg
>
> Me
> who LOVES them!

On Jul 16, 2:01 pm, Carole <TheNewCar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The Atlantic is nice. But the Pacific has these:
>
> http://www.carolemay.com/images/L41_maleorca_small.jpg
>
> Me
> who LOVES them!

I'm with you on the whales! It's grey whales for us and O lknow their
migration patterns as well as i know my own! I do love the ocean but
our ocean is so cold. I learned to surf in florida; I got good at it
in Hawaii. When I first moved here, I was stunned that I would have
to surf in a wet suit and have really not loved the process of wet
suits at all. So I have a question: does the atlantic have a marine
layer like we do? Is there relentless fog in the summer?

m

Kelly wrote:

> Cowichan Bay in BC Canada has this
> http://www.cowichanbay.com/gallery.p...hoto%20Gallery and it is
> on the Pacific side. Those whales of Carole's go right by us! Of course we
> also have very little cold in the winter (not that you could tell this
> year), vineyards near by, lots of B & B's, kayacking etc. Near perfect!
>
> Kelly

Oooo, I have to come up there and do some photography! How far is that
from B'ham?

Carole

M.

I would hardly say that having a roof over your head is mundane! Wow,
that is a scary situation to be in and to have to worry about being
homeless. You know you have a whole huge extended family with members
in just about every state who would all gladly open their homes and
their hearts to you anytime!!!

Prayers definitely being lifted for your situation as well as for all
those fighting and dealing with the multiple fires in your area!

..
..
..
..

Donna
..
..
..
..
1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......


2.) J.K.M.A.

Kelly,
I am actually seriously thinking about a move to Canada. I did the
test to see if Canada would take me and I got a very high score. Your
area is just beautiful. I am going to google it tonight and just
spend some cyber time there.

m

shenmei9wise@gmail.com wrote:

> Kelly,
> I am actually seriously thinking about a move to Canada. I did the
> test to see if Canada would take me and I got a very high score. Your
> area is just beautiful. I am going to google it tonight and just
> spend some cyber time there.
>
> m

Aren't rents higher in Canada? I looked at a few towns just across the
border and it was MUCH cheaper to live here in B'ham, not to mention
that everyone comes down here to shop as our prices and I think sales
tax are less. I know when I go shopping around here, there are a LOT of
BC license plates in the parking lot!

Carole

lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm with you on the whales! It's grey whales for us and O lknow their
> migration patterns as well as i know my own! I do love the ocean but
> our ocean is so cold. I learned to surf in florida; I got good at it
> in Hawaii. When I first moved here, I was stunned that I would have
> to surf in a wet suit and have really not loved the process of wet
> suits at all. So I have a question: does the atlantic have a marine
> layer like we do? Is there relentless fog in the summer?
>
> m

Not sure what a marine layer is. But you can surf in the summer on Long
Island without a wet suit. There are certain beaches where it is
allowed, so if that's important, find a place in the Township of Babylon
as those beaches belong to that township. We used to go and watch, but
we always had to pay to get in. Not sure how much it is now, but it was
like $7 when I moved in 2003. There is no fog in the summer on Long
Island

Carole

M, the article probably said, but I'm sorry I don't remember if it did.
Gwen

--
The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
<shenmei9wise@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 14, 5:28 pm, <sweetpickl...@SPAMknology.net> wrote:
> Not mundane at all, M. This is very important and certainly needs to be a
> big part of our prayers from now until you find just the right place that
> you can afford. Have been praying about the fires and for all the
> firefighters. Another group left from Alabama yesterday.
> Gwen
>
> <shenmei9w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:93836ab0-9682-43b6-a5f4-3e9e5d516121@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> I hate to bring something this mundane to this group but i am just two
> weeks away from being homeless and i need prayers that I find a
> house. I live in an area where even rental prices are going up. A
> studio here is going for 1500.00 and a 2 bedroom apartment for
> 2000.00. I am finding just horrifying crap for this much money. I am
> also competing with the students who are all looking for housing. You
> would think that my housing karma would be good as I have opened my
> house always to people who have needed it, but alas, I think this
> karma thing is not quite that linear.
>
> I think after my little five month stint of being homeless in 2006,
> this is by biggest fear. This time it is worse because of the air
> quality from the fires makes even camping in my van impossible and I
> really feel like I have to be centered to be able to continue doing
> support work for our first responders.
>
> So I would love prayers for finding an affordable home. Barring that,
> any of you who live someplace affordable that isn't burning, talk me
> into moving <g>! And since I am in an asking mode, a few prayers that
> these fires get under control and for our wonderful fire fighters
> would also be appreciated.
>
> m

Gwen,
dp upi know where they are headed? I have met firefighters from as
far away as New Zealand. IIt is psycologically very important for
those crews from out of state to be here-makes us all feel a little
less lost.
m

On Jul 16, 5:50 pm, Carole <TheNewCar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> shenmei9w...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Kelly,
> > I am actually seriously thinking about a move to Canada. I did the
> > test to see if Canada would take me and I got a very high score. Your
> > area is just beautiful. I am going to google it tonight and just
> > spend some cyber time there.
>
> > m
>
> Aren't rents higher in Canada? I looked at a few towns just across the
> border and it was MUCH cheaper to live here in B'ham, not to mention
> that everyone comes down here to shop as our prices and I think sales
> tax are less. I know when I go shopping around here, there are a LOT of
> BC license plates in the parking lot!
>
> Carole

Carole,
I think no rents are higher anywhere than in san frnacisco and santa
cruz (well and Manhatten). just for the fun of it, go on craigslist
and select bay area and look at the santa cruz rents-keep in mind that
those houses going for 3 and 5 thousand dollars a month are not
special-they just are houses.

m

"Carole" <TheNewCarole@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6e7j9sF5q1fcU2@mid.individual.net...
> shenmei9wise@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Kelly,
>> I am actually seriously thinking about a move to Canada. I did the
>> test to see if Canada would take me and I got a very high score.
>> Your
>> area is just beautiful. I am going to google it tonight and just
>> spend some cyber time there.
>>
>> m
>
> Aren't rents higher in Canada? I looked at a few towns just across
> the border and it was MUCH cheaper to live here in B'ham, not to
> mention that everyone comes down here to shop as our prices and I
> think sales tax are less. I know when I go shopping around here,
> there are a LOT of BC license plates in the parking lot!
>
> Carole

A lot of it is to avoid the Value Added Tax. It pushes up the cost of
consumer goods for them. Also to avoid very high liquor taxes.

Trust me it is interesting, but no fun to travel in Canada with a
cheep scate alcoholic.

Those are both exaggerations about Charlie, but he does like his beer,
and blanched at the price in Canada.

Jo

shenmei9wise@gmail.com wrote:

> Carole,
> I think no rents are higher anywhere than in san frnacisco and santa
> cruz (well and Manhatten). just for the fun of it, go on craigslist
> and select bay area and look at the santa cruz rents-keep in mind that
> those houses going for 3 and 5 thousand dollars a month are not
> special-they just are houses.
>
> m

Sounds like NYC . . . one of the reasons I got out of there. My best
friend had one hell of a time finding a place to live. The rents in NYC
are affordable only if you are a doctor or a lawyer!

Carole

Jofirey wrote:

> A lot of it is to avoid the Value Added Tax. It pushes up the cost of
> consumer goods for them. Also to avoid very high liquor taxes.
>
> Trust me it is interesting, but no fun to travel in Canada with a
> cheep scate alcoholic.
>
> Those are both exaggerations about Charlie, but he does like his beer,
> and blanched at the price in Canada.
>
> Jo


Yea, they have VAT in England as well. I only used to shop in places
where I could get the VAT back at the airport when I was coming home
Or in the duty free shops at Heathrow where there was no VAT )))

Carole

In article <0001HW.C4A36DFA0287C662F0284550@news.east.earthli nk.net>,
hanbellGOGATORS@earthlink.net says...
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 6:59:08 -0400, Di wrote
> (in message <MPG.22e79e86fb9cebbc98976b@news.optonline.net>) :
>
> > Barrier islands come and go. It's only since the arrogant white settlers
> > with
> > lots of money and the desire to kill every whale that passed by decided to
> > settle and make this place "permanent". Now, we fight a political battle
> > trying to maintain a naturally shifting shoreline while houses and their
> > inhabitants fight to stabilize, and in my opinion, ruin what was once so
> > beautiful about his place.
>
> Oh, boy, don't get me started! I grew up in Florida back in the days when
> the only thing youbuilt on the barrier islands were what I call "Florida
> Funky" style places. You KNEW they'd be blown away by a hurricane one day,
> so you didn't invest too much. You just wanted a place to sleep without the
> bugs getting in - and maybe the ability to close it off on cool nights. Now
> I hear people whining about not being able to insure multi-million dollar
> places that they never should have been allowed to build in that location.
> And all those trailer parks full of retirees on the coast who didn't think
> about hurricanes when they bought - and now can't get insurance because of
> that. At the least FULL disclosure of the risks should hvae been required.
> But I'd best step off the soap box before I wear out my already aching
> fingers! lol
>
>
>
Full disclosure is a concept that is heartily fought off by real estate agents
and sellers. There's money to be made in duping people. But, the taxpayer
ends up with the tab. Sucks........
--
Di
zinkadoodle at gmail dot com
www.dustydogdigital.com

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:14:30 -0400, Di wrote
(in message <MPG.22ef0c8f7f3740db98976c@news.optonline.net>) :

> Full disclosure is a concept that is heartily fought off by real estate
> agents
> and sellers. There's money to be made in duping people. But, the taxpayer
> ends up with the tab. Sucks........
>

Ain't it the truth? Let the real estate folks make their buck, then take it
away from everyone to pay for the inevitable damages. And now folks with
modest homes inland are paying incredible insurance rates because of the high
risk places right on the coast.

In my perversity, I was really irked at Hurricane Andrew for hitting the
lower income, more modestly housed Homestead, FL instead of whallopping the
foolishly built Miami Beach. And the Gulf Coast suffering from Katrina is a
subject I'd best leave alone.

--
Nann
remove the Gator cheer to email me
Change everything. Love & forgive.