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Old 12-02-2006, 12:47 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15990645/

Experimental ultrasound method could mean fewer biopsies for women

CHICAGO - An experimental ultrasound technique that measures how easily
breast lumps compress and bounce back could enable doctors to determine
instantly whether a woman has cancer or not without doing a biopsy.

In a small study of 80 women, the technique — called “elastography” —
distinguished harmless lumps from malignant ones with nearly 100 percent
accuracy.

If the results hold up in a larger study, elastography could save
thousands of women from the waiting, cost, discomfort and anxiety of a
biopsy, in which cells are removed from the breast — sometimes with a
needle, sometimes with a scalpel — and examined under a microscope.

“There’s a lot of anxiety, a lot of stress, a lot of fear involved” with
biopsies, said Susan Brown, manager of health education for the Susan G.
Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. “And there’s the cost of leaving work to
make a second appointment. If this can be done instead of a biopsy,
there would be a real cost reduction.”

Up to 1 million biopsies are performed each year on suspicious breast
tissue detected by mammograms and self-exams, but as many as eight out
of 10 of these biopsies find that the lumps are benign.

Rapid results
Biopsies can cost $200 to $1,000, depending on whether some fluid or an
entire lump is removed, and it can take days or weeks to get the
results. The cost of elastography is not yet clear, but some experts
said the procedure might run $100 to $200. And it can yield results in
minutes.

When checked against biopsies of women’s breast tissue, the ultrasound
technique correctly identified 17 out of 17 cancerous tumors, and 105
out of 106 harmless lesions. The findings were reported at a national
radiology meeting in Chicago this week.

Scientists said the approach may also be used someday to rapidly
diagnose damaged hearts and guide the treatment of prostate cancer.

The technique was pioneered during the 1990s at the University of Texas
Medical School at Houston by Jonathan Ophir and his colleagues.

Ophir describes elastography as a way to measure and picture the
elasticity of body tissue. In effect, it is an extension of one of the
oldest tools in medicine, palpation, in which a doctor feels the shape
and firmness of body tissue.

To explain elastography, Ophir likens the body to a box-spring mattress,
but “a crazy mattress made out of millions of small springs and each one
is a little different. Each is moving around at a different rate,
depending on their individual stiffness.” Cancerous tumors are like
stiff springs. Normal tissue and benign lesions compress more easily.

Both traditional ultrasound and elastography use echoes from
high-frequency sound waves to create pictures of what is going on inside
the body, but elastography goes a step further.

In traditional ultrasound, a doctor or technician places a handheld
device on the skin that sends high-frequency sound waves into the body.
Organs and tissue reflect the sound back as echoes, which are sent to a
computer that turns them into a picture. Many people have seen
ultrasound images of fetuses in the womb.

Echos and movement
Elastography, though, also gauges movement. As the doctor moves the
handheld device against the breast, the device collects echoes before
and after the compression or movement of the breast tissue. The
resulting images show stiff tissues as dark areas and soft tissues as
light areas.

Breast cancer shows up larger on an elastogram than it does on a
traditional ultrasound image, perhaps because the elastogram can “see”
the scar tissue around the cancer, Ophir said.

“It’s like finding a marble in Jell-O,” said Dr. Richard Barr, a
professor of radiology at Northeastern Ohio Universities College of
Medicine who reported his findings at the Radiological Society of North
America annual meeting. Germany-based Siemens AG provided the ultrasound
equipment and software for Barr’s study.

Ophir and other researchers said breast cancer diagnosis will be
elastography’s first real-world application.

“If it doesn’t fly there, it won’t fly anywhere,” said Elisa Konofagou
of Columbia University, who is testing elastography on animals and
humans to determine the extent of damage after a heart attack. Uses in
prostate cancer and thyroid cancer also are under study elsewhere.

Dr. Constantine Godellas, a cancer surgeon at Rush University Medical
Center, said some patients and doctors would have trouble giving up
biopsies, even if further research confirmed elastography’s accuracy.
Doctors may fear lawsuits if they do not order biopsies, he said.
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This new non-invasive test sounds excellent.

There are so many problems with biopsies (needle, hole punch), including
that they might cause the cancer to spread. And some biopsies are quite
painful.

Plus, there's the fraud on the part of those surgeons, who don't send
the fluid to the lab for analysis (like Charles Kilp@trick in Marshall
TX), who lie & say they have, & that there's no cancer. And the FP/GP
docs like Suzane Bl@ke, who back up this type of fraud & cruelty. Who
get off, get high on abuse of power.

The ultrasound, sonogram type tests can be done at hospitals & medical
centers, not doctors' offices, .... & therefore, may be subject to less
fraud. We can also pay to get a copy of the results from the hospital,
.... when the docs refuse, won't give a copy or info about lab, & keep
saying: "Trust me".


Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions

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Old 12-07-2006, 02:49 PM
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Again Sue...we're sorry for the care [or lack there of] that you
recieved. But I'd hate to think you'd leave some one with the
impression that this goes on everywhere, which you and I both know is
not true. There are lots of truly amazing facilities around this
country and the survivors are here to prove it.

I've had all my ultrasounds and biopsies in my breast surgeons office.
Labs go out from there and results are sent back there [usually by fax]
and I've never waited more then 5 days for any of the results.
Alot of breast surgeons around the country do these proceedures right
in their offices.
Most times this makes it more comfortable for the patient. [quieter
atmosphere]

I'm very sure there are bad doctors [had a couple myself, but their not
my doctors anymore], bad hospitals, and lax attitudes towards patients.
But those are not the norm in this country.
Posting here is everyones right, but we are expected to post legit
information and probably at times use disclaimers to the fact that
everyone will not expierence what we have, because "everybody's
different" and obviously different areas of the country handle things
differently.

Again I'm very sorry[as are otheres] for what you've been through and
are still going through. BuT! to rant and scare others is not going to
change things for you. You might try being a little more compassionate
for the new ones coming in here and try to post without going off on
some rant. It serves absolutely no purpose.
Take care there/God bless
annie





su-texas@webtv.net wrote:
> This new non-invasive test sounds excellent.
>
> There are so many problems with biopsies (needle, hole punch), including
> that they might cause the cancer to spread. And some biopsies are quite
> painful.
>
> Plus, there's the fraud on the part of those surgeons, who don't send
> the fluid to the lab for analysis (like Charles Kilp@trick in Marshall
> TX), who lie & say they have, & that there's no cancer. And the FP/GP
> docs like Suzane Bl@ke, who back up this type of fraud & cruelty. Who
> get off, get high on abuse of power.
>
> The ultrasound, sonogram type tests can be done at hospitals & medical
> centers, not doctors' offices, .... & therefore, may be subject to less
> fraud. We can also pay to get a copy of the results from the hospital,
> ... when the docs refuse, won't give a copy or info about lab, & keep
> saying: "Trust me".
>
>
> Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions


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Old 12-07-2006, 02:49 PM
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Annie wrote:
> I've had all my ultrasounds and biopsies in my breast surgeons office.
> Labs go out from there and results are sent back there [usually by fax]
> and I've never waited more then 5 days for any of the results.
> Alot of breast surgeons around the country do these proceedures right
> in their offices.
> Most times this makes it more comfortable for the patient. [quieter
> atmosphere]



Annie,

Thank you for pointing this out.

I also have not had to wait more than 5 days for either
mammo/ultrasound results, nor pathology results.

I've also asked for copies to be left at the receptionists desk for me
to pick up. At 3 different doctors offices/clinics and one hospital
I've never had anyone deny my polite request. I have had to provide
identification or sign a release, but that is the norm and only
protects my privacy. I have never been charged for copies of my test
information, not even a token "paper" charge or processing charge.



> I'm very sure there are bad doctors [had a couple myself, but their not
> my doctors anymore], bad hospitals, and lax attitudes towards patients.
> But those are not the norm in this country.
> Posting here is everyones right, but we are expected to post legit
> information and probably at times use disclaimers to the fact that
> everyone will not expierence what we have, because "everybody's
> different" and obviously different areas of the country handle things
> differently.



Actually, with the competition in health care, I'm finding more and
more doctors and hospitals competing for a patients business and the
standard of care raised even higher.

I have met one seemingly "cold" radiologist, but he could be cold to me
and not chatty for all I cared. He was darned good at his work and
went the extra mile to make sure I understood everything he was seeing
after a routine mammo. I didn't have to like his personality, nor he
mine. He did his job, very professionally and responsibly and I am
grateful for that.

Marie

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