Worst Centers & Docs for Breast Cancer

The one that I went to & wrongly trusted, the one that determined my
cancer treatments & got me so badly harmed, .... was the Breast Cancer
Center at Methodist Hospital in Houston TX, the one staffed by Baylor
College of Medicine professors & asst professors.

The oncologist who harmed me so badly, & then refused to help me at all,
was Jenny Chang.

She lied to me, over & over, about the chances of the chemo treatments
to work, to do some good, .... & did Not inform me of their extremely
bad & deadly side effects, of the risks I'd be taking. I was also lied
to by the Longview onc, about this. [All they've got to sell, is the
harm-filled cr@p-care (PHARMA). If they can't find a way to sell it,
then they don't get paid.]

In doing this, she took away my choice to make an informed decision
about cancer care.

She had her head up her behind so hard, pushing the bad chemos &
Arimidex, .... that she would never get a clue, never wise-up.

After I was harmed so badly by the chemo, radiation & Arimidex, .... the
treatments that she'd dictated & that the Longview Cancer Center had
followed thru on, .... after my heart & health were destroyed by this, &
I was being refused all medical care, .... Jenny Chang refused to help
me in any way, refused to refer me for help, refused to order testing to
see harm done.

She's proved one lying, disgusting, low-life, skank-ho b1tch. May she
only rot in hell, both in this life & the next, for the harm she's
knowingly & deliberately done. May only hate & harm find her. May she
never know a moment's peace.

There's also the butcher surgeon there, Anthony Lucci, who chopped up my
right breast, instead of removing it. [When he came back from lunch to
perform the surgery, he was very late (hours?) & giggling, & his asst
(minder) wasn't with him. I should have realized, there was something
wrong with him.]

I'd not recommend Baylor in Houston or Dallas, for any reason. Nor M D
Anderson (UT).

From what others say, Methodist is supposed to be the last good hospital
left in Texas, .... but it's very important Not to use any university
doctors, partly due to the PHARMA companies influence over them, over
their research & treatments.

It's also important Not to ask for or take any doctor referrals, from
Methodist hospital.

You'll need to find a doctor on your own, who has a good reputation.

Also, don't use the Methodist Hospital staff doctors at all. I found
them extremely uniformed, poor quality, harmful.

It's very difficult to navigate the Medical Industry, & try to find &
get to any legit care, .... esp. in states like Texas & Lousiana, where
there are no quality controls, & you have no rights.

I hope that others won't be harmed as badly as I have been, & esp. Not
by the same individuals or med schools.

I also know from experience, that Baylor has one of the worst Neurology
Depts going. [William Ondo, Rachel Doody, & such]

Also, Methodist won't do anything, when you're harmed by the Baylor
docs, or by the quack-docs they (Methodist) recommend.

And I'd super-not-recommend LSU in Shreveport La, for any reason. Esp.
not for surgery. It's an extremely dangerous area & campus.

I'm listing some my experiences here, in the hope it will help others to
avoid the worst med care, rip-offs in $$$, physical suffering & pain.

It's horrible to have been lied to & backstabbed by the docs about
cancer care, in & since 2001, .... & to be suffering to death like this,
because of it.

This degree of betrayal, does hurt a great deal.

One thing that helps some, is to hope & pray many times daily, that
those responsible for doing this harm, face far worse, .... that they
face only justice without mercy, .... & that they know in the next life,
we'll be waiting, to rip them to pieces for all eternity.

---------------------

Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions

Added Info:

Anthony Lucci, the butcher surgeon

In Dec 2001, Lucci removed my left breast, the one with the huge lump in
it, & he seemed to do OK. The other docs said he left way too much
breast material under my left arm, & this has proved painful &
uncomfortable.

At that time, the university had a female assistant that accompanied
Lucci at all times, to help him think, organize, stay focused, make it
from room to room. He seemed like an effeminate, unorganized
genius-type, .... but likeable & bright.

I was very grateful to get that surgery, & have it go mostly right,
which is Very good (& rare) for surgeries done in Texas.

So I recommended Lucci as being a good surgeon, .... something which I
deeply regret & apologize for.

------------------

In April (?) 2003, Lucci butchered my right breast, instead of removing
it.

The right breast was huge, dense & heavy, very bad for my neck & other
spine injuries, .... but had no cancer in it.

That time, he showed up very late for surgery, acting oddly (jerkish &
impaired), & had no assistant with him.

-----------------

I'm surprised that Baylor kept Lucci on staff, or allowed him to keep
performing surgeries at all, .... but that's the way they are.

Baylor's standards are so low, that they'll even take those body parts
which other medical facilities reject, like those from someone who died
of rabies, to implant in other people, .... people who want to live, are
struggling hard to.

They just can't seem to cause enough pain, suffering & loss.

I hope they get sued & often. But in states like Texas (corrupt,
crime-rule, crime-ridden), it's almost impossible to get a lawyer to
take a medical malpractice case & pursue it thru the courts, the very
failed court systems.

I'm hopeful this will change. That enough people will demand change, &
not take No for an answer.

----------------

I read that a billionaire, Dan Duncan, donated $100 million to Baylor in
2006.

Why?! What the heck for? Why reward them?

Hopefully, most of it can go to those victims, whom Baylor has harmed &
betrayed so badly, or to their survivors, .... & esp. to those who died
of rabies.

---------------

When I first went there, the school (Baylor) was scrambling. They'd lost
their star player, a famous heart surgeon (?), .... & said they were
still struggling to come up with some other star-player-type care to
offer, to try to bring in more attention & funds.

Too bad they still had nothing to offer, only fraud & harm for $$$.

Sad.

----------------

Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions

Susan,

I was sorry to read about all your problems. Obviously you're very
bitter. Perhaps you have reason, perhaps you don't. We should all be aware
there are two sides to every story.

For the benefit of those new to the group, I'd like to state right here
that not all cancer doctors are ".lying, disgusting, low-life, skank-ho
b1tch"'s. Or "butcher surgeons." In my six-year battle with bc, I
haven't found a one who wasn't compassionate, knowledgeable, and caring. I
remember the oncologist I had when I lived in Oklahoma and went through my
chemo at Integris Baptist Hospital. Her name was Dr. Aleda Toma. I used to
make it rhyme: "Doctor Toma from Oklahoma." One day I was moved to tears
when I learned Dr. Toma and her staff met for prayer before they started
each working day.

Oncologists are a special, tough breed. They have to be. Unlike
pediatricians, plastic surgeons, etc., they don't see a whole lot of happy
endings. Instead, they must deal with heartbreak, suffering, and death
every day. They must constantly look into anguished eyes and answer the
question, "What are my chances?" Frankly I don't know how they do it,
especially when they're blamed and vilified by people like you.

Today we look back in horror at the "old days" of medicine: blood
letting, no anesthetic, no washing hands. I have no doubt that a hundred
years from now people will look back with the same kind of horror at the
"primitive" cancer treatments we have today. But I'll tell you what...it's
all we have and I honor and deeply appreciate those doctors who work with
what they have to save our lives.

Six years ago I was diagnosed Stage IIIA. I'm still here. Thank you
and God bless you, Dr. Toma, and all the oncologists who devote their lives
to save ours.

S.K.









<su-texas@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:13660-4548942A-1545@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net...
> The one that I went to & wrongly trusted, the one that determined my
> cancer treatments & got me so badly harmed, .... was the Breast Cancer
> Center at Methodist Hospital in Houston TX, the one staffed by Baylor
> College of Medicine professors & asst professors.
>
> The oncologist who harmed me so badly, & then refused to help me at all,
> was Jenny Chang.
>
> She lied to me, over & over, about the chances of the chemo treatments
> to work, to do some good, .... & did Not inform me of their extremely
> bad & deadly side effects, of the risks I'd be taking. I was also lied
> to by the Longview onc, about this. [All they've got to sell, is the
> harm-filled cr@p-care (PHARMA). If they can't find a way to sell it,
> then they don't get paid.]
>
> In doing this, she took away my choice to make an informed decision
> about cancer care.
>
> She had her head up her behind so hard, pushing the bad chemos &
> Arimidex, .... that she would never get a clue, never wise-up.
>
> After I was harmed so badly by the chemo, radiation & Arimidex, .... the
> treatments that she'd dictated & that the Longview Cancer Center had
> followed thru on, .... after my heart & health were destroyed by this, &
> I was being refused all medical care, .... Jenny Chang refused to help
> me in any way, refused to refer me for help, refused to order testing to
> see harm done.
>
> She's proved one lying, disgusting, low-life, skank-ho b1tch. May she
> only rot in hell, both in this life & the next, for the harm she's
> knowingly & deliberately done. May only hate & harm find her. May she
> never know a moment's peace.
>
> There's also the butcher surgeon there, Anthony Lucci, who chopped up my
> right breast, instead of removing it. [When he came back from lunch to
> perform the surgery, he was very late (hours?) & giggling, & his asst
> (minder) wasn't with him. I should have realized, there was something
> wrong with him.]
>
> I'd not recommend Baylor in Houston or Dallas, for any reason. Nor M D
> Anderson (UT).
>
> From what others say, Methodist is supposed to be the last good hospital
> left in Texas, .... but it's very important Not to use any university
> doctors, partly due to the PHARMA companies influence over them, over
> their research & treatments.
>
> It's also important Not to ask for or take any doctor referrals, from
> Methodist hospital.
>
> You'll need to find a doctor on your own, who has a good reputation.
>
> Also, don't use the Methodist Hospital staff doctors at all. I found
> them extremely uniformed, poor quality, harmful.
>
> It's very difficult to navigate the Medical Industry, & try to find &
> get to any legit care, .... esp. in states like Texas & Lousiana, where
> there are no quality controls, & you have no rights.
>
> I hope that others won't be harmed as badly as I have been, & esp. Not
> by the same individuals or med schools.
>
> I also know from experience, that Baylor has one of the worst Neurology
> Depts going. [William Ondo, Rachel Doody, & such]
>
> Also, Methodist won't do anything, when you're harmed by the Baylor
> docs, or by the quack-docs they (Methodist) recommend.
>
> And I'd super-not-recommend LSU in Shreveport La, for any reason. Esp.
> not for surgery. It's an extremely dangerous area & campus.
>
> I'm listing some my experiences here, in the hope it will help others to
> avoid the worst med care, rip-offs in $$$, physical suffering & pain.
>
> It's horrible to have been lied to & backstabbed by the docs about
> cancer care, in & since 2001, .... & to be suffering to death like this,
> because of it.
>
> This degree of betrayal, does hurt a great deal.
>
> One thing that helps some, is to hope & pray many times daily, that
> those responsible for doing this harm, face far worse, .... that they
> face only justice without mercy, .... & that they know in the next life,
> we'll be waiting, to rip them to pieces for all eternity.
>
> ---------------------
>
> Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions
>

Sorry to hear that your experiences with cancer docs were so bad.
For balance, I should relate my late wife's experiences.
Her oncologists, surgeons, and medical staff were mostly caring
and compassionate. Incidentally, this was at Kaiser Permanente
(HMO) facilities in northern California. In the end, the treatments
were ineffective, but I don't blame the medical establishment
for that. There's much about breast cancer that still remains a
mystery, and there certainly are no guarantees that a particular
treatment will be effective or free from side effects.

--
John Richards

SK,
We've been at this for "years" [yes, years!] with "Sue from Texas"
We've repeatedly told her that this was not a productive way to
contribute to a news group. We've [me/other "oldies here] have told her
[asked her] to please not post this way. We in NO way are trying to
stifle her participation in this group, nor have we ever during the
last [at least 6 years that I rmember] We only wanted her to be fair to
those that were new, coming here needing solid information, with their
hearts filled with fear. We've had posters from Texas that have posted
that this is not the way it is in the area of Texas she says she's
from, because they are from this area as well.
We've tried various approaches and none so far have done us any good.
She is going to keep doing what's she's doing no matter who it scares
or hurts.
We've told her time and time again that we are very sorry for the
things she's been through during the times she's been going through
treatment for breast cancer. But, having said that, we've also told her
that despite the fact she's apparrently [?] had bad care, that's not
the norm.

We've tried to help her in various ways and recommeneded several things
she could do to correct this treatment. We've offered ideas to help her
get through what we ALL know is a terrible thing to have to go through.
When we've tried to help her all she does is attack us and call us
"vile" names. Just ask me. I'm sure you'll see proof of this when she
reads this.
She likes me alot....;-) [not!]
I've not posted in a long time, but check in every now and then to see
how others are doing.
I've been through this twice [99/02] and have had the same expierences
that you posted about. I don't think I've had but maybe a couple
problems in the last 7 years that I've been going through this mess.
And those have not been the doctors, they were low level hospital
staff, and those problems were solved upon reporting them to the
doctors or higher level staff, but I'd like to add without the tactics
that "Sue from Texas" claims she has used in the care she's recieved.
I'm sorry for anyone that gets less that adequate care from whatever
hospital or cancer center they go to for their care. I'm from Northwest
Ohio and have had what I consider the best there is regarding breast
cancer. I know not everyone is lucky enough to get the best there
is....but most of the facilities that are in this country are
impressive centers and lots of people are alive today due to those
dedicated people that work at the various cancer care centers around
this country.

I will close with the hopes that in posting this, that new comers will
not take what she says as gospel and perhaps not seek out the care they
need. That's what alot of us have told her might happen given the type
of posts she submits here.

Take care there dear/God bless
annie

p.s I always get it for the way I close my posts...stay tuned.





SK wrote:
> Susan,
>
> I was sorry to read about all your problems. Obviously you're very
> bitter. Perhaps you have reason, perhaps you don't. We should all be aware
> there are two sides to every story.
>
> For the benefit of those new to the group, I'd like to state right here
> that not all cancer doctors are ".lying, disgusting, low-life, skank-ho
> b1tch"'s. Or "butcher surgeons." In my six-year battle with bc, I
> haven't found a one who wasn't compassionate, knowledgeable, and caring. I
> remember the oncologist I had when I lived in Oklahoma and went through my
> chemo at Integris Baptist Hospital. Her name was Dr. Aleda Toma. I used to
> make it rhyme: "Doctor Toma from Oklahoma." One day I was moved to tears
> when I learned Dr. Toma and her staff met for prayer before they started
> each working day.
>
> Oncologists are a special, tough breed. They have to be. Unlike
> pediatricians, plastic surgeons, etc., they don't see a whole lot of happy
> endings. Instead, they must deal with heartbreak, suffering, and death
> every day. They must constantly look into anguished eyes and answer the
> question, "What are my chances?" Frankly I don't know how they do it,
> especially when they're blamed and vilified by people like you.
>
> Today we look back in horror at the "old days" of medicine: blood
> letting, no anesthetic, no washing hands. I have no doubt that a hundred
> years from now people will look back with the same kind of horror at the
> "primitive" cancer treatments we have today. But I'll tell you what...it's
> all we have and I honor and deeply appreciate those doctors who work with
> what they have to save our lives.
>
> Six years ago I was diagnosed Stage IIIA. I'm still here. Thank you
> and God bless you, Dr. Toma, and all the oncologists who devote their lives
> to save ours.
>
> S.K.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <su-texas@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13660-4548942A-1545@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net...
> > The one that I went to & wrongly trusted, the one that determined my
> > cancer treatments & got me so badly harmed, .... was the Breast Cancer
> > Center at Methodist Hospital in Houston TX, the one staffed by Baylor
> > College of Medicine professors & asst professors.
> >
> > The oncologist who harmed me so badly, & then refused to help me at all,
> > was Jenny Chang.
> >
> > She lied to me, over & over, about the chances of the chemo treatments
> > to work, to do some good, .... & did Not inform me of their extremely
> > bad & deadly side effects, of the risks I'd be taking. I was also lied
> > to by the Longview onc, about this. [All they've got to sell, is the
> > harm-filled cr@p-care (PHARMA). If they can't find a way to sell it,
> > then they don't get paid.]
> >
> > In doing this, she took away my choice to make an informed decision
> > about cancer care.
> >
> > She had her head up her behind so hard, pushing the bad chemos &
> > Arimidex, .... that she would never get a clue, never wise-up.
> >
> > After I was harmed so badly by the chemo, radiation & Arimidex, .... the
> > treatments that she'd dictated & that the Longview Cancer Center had
> > followed thru on, .... after my heart & health were destroyed by this, &
> > I was being refused all medical care, .... Jenny Chang refused to help
> > me in any way, refused to refer me for help, refused to order testing to
> > see harm done.
> >
> > She's proved one lying, disgusting, low-life, skank-ho b1tch. May she
> > only rot in hell, both in this life & the next, for the harm she's
> > knowingly & deliberately done. May only hate & harm find her. May she
> > never know a moment's peace.
> >
> > There's also the butcher surgeon there, Anthony Lucci, who chopped up my
> > right breast, instead of removing it. [When he came back from lunch to
> > perform the surgery, he was very late (hours?) & giggling, & his asst
> > (minder) wasn't with him. I should have realized, there was something
> > wrong with him.]
> >
> > I'd not recommend Baylor in Houston or Dallas, for any reason. Nor M D
> > Anderson (UT).
> >
> > From what others say, Methodist is supposed to be the last good hospital
> > left in Texas, .... but it's very important Not to use any university
> > doctors, partly due to the PHARMA companies influence over them, over
> > their research & treatments.
> >
> > It's also important Not to ask for or take any doctor referrals, from
> > Methodist hospital.
> >
> > You'll need to find a doctor on your own, who has a good reputation.
> >
> > Also, don't use the Methodist Hospital staff doctors at all. I found
> > them extremely uniformed, poor quality, harmful.
> >
> > It's very difficult to navigate the Medical Industry, & try to find &
> > get to any legit care, .... esp. in states like Texas & Lousiana, where
> > there are no quality controls, & you have no rights.
> >
> > I hope that others won't be harmed as badly as I have been, & esp. Not
> > by the same individuals or med schools.
> >
> > I also know from experience, that Baylor has one of the worst Neurology
> > Depts going. [William Ondo, Rachel Doody, & such]
> >
> > Also, Methodist won't do anything, when you're harmed by the Baylor
> > docs, or by the quack-docs they (Methodist) recommend.
> >
> > And I'd super-not-recommend LSU in Shreveport La, for any reason. Esp.
> > not for surgery. It's an extremely dangerous area & campus.
> >
> > I'm listing some my experiences here, in the hope it will help others to
> > avoid the worst med care, rip-offs in $$$, physical suffering & pain.
> >
> > It's horrible to have been lied to & backstabbed by the docs about
> > cancer care, in & since 2001, .... & to be suffering to death like this,
> > because of it.
> >
> > This degree of betrayal, does hurt a great deal.
> >
> > One thing that helps some, is to hope & pray many times daily, that
> > those responsible for doing this harm, face far worse, .... that they
> > face only justice without mercy, .... & that they know in the next life,
> > we'll be waiting, to rip them to pieces for all eternity.
> >
> > ---------------------
> >
> > Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions
> >

SK,
I wanted to add that we've also told her it's not a good idea to post
doctors names and facilities of those that have treated her, as she
might just incur a law suit as she's putting this information on a
public website that anyone can read and therefore come across this
information. But obviously that hasn't worked either, not that we
thought it would.
Take care dear/God bless
annie


SK wrote:
> Susan,
>
> I was sorry to read about all your problems. Obviously you're very
> bitter. Perhaps you have reason, perhaps you don't. We should all be aware
> there are two sides to every story.
>
> For the benefit of those new to the group, I'd like to state right here
> that not all cancer doctors are ".lying, disgusting, low-life, skank-ho
> b1tch"'s. Or "butcher surgeons." In my six-year battle with bc, I
> haven't found a one who wasn't compassionate, knowledgeable, and caring. I
> remember the oncologist I had when I lived in Oklahoma and went through my
> chemo at Integris Baptist Hospital. Her name was Dr. Aleda Toma. I used to
> make it rhyme: "Doctor Toma from Oklahoma." One day I was moved to tears
> when I learned Dr. Toma and her staff met for prayer before they started
> each working day.
>
> Oncologists are a special, tough breed. They have to be. Unlike
> pediatricians, plastic surgeons, etc., they don't see a whole lot of happy
> endings. Instead, they must deal with heartbreak, suffering, and death
> every day. They must constantly look into anguished eyes and answer the
> question, "What are my chances?" Frankly I don't know how they do it,
> especially when they're blamed and vilified by people like you.
>
> Today we look back in horror at the "old days" of medicine: blood
> letting, no anesthetic, no washing hands. I have no doubt that a hundred
> years from now people will look back with the same kind of horror at the
> "primitive" cancer treatments we have today. But I'll tell you what...it's
> all we have and I honor and deeply appreciate those doctors who work with
> what they have to save our lives.
>
> Six years ago I was diagnosed Stage IIIA. I'm still here. Thank you
> and God bless you, Dr. Toma, and all the oncologists who devote their lives
> to save ours.
>
> S.K.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <su-texas@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13660-4548942A-1545@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net...
> > The one that I went to & wrongly trusted, the one that determined my
> > cancer treatments & got me so badly harmed, .... was the Breast Cancer
> > Center at Methodist Hospital in Houston TX, the one staffed by Baylor
> > College of Medicine professors & asst professors.
> >
> > The oncologist who harmed me so badly, & then refused to help me at all,
> > was Jenny Chang.
> >
> > She lied to me, over & over, about the chances of the chemo treatments
> > to work, to do some good, .... & did Not inform me of their extremely
> > bad & deadly side effects, of the risks I'd be taking. I was also lied
> > to by the Longview onc, about this. [All they've got to sell, is the
> > harm-filled cr@p-care (PHARMA). If they can't find a way to sell it,
> > then they don't get paid.]
> >
> > In doing this, she took away my choice to make an informed decision
> > about cancer care.
> >
> > She had her head up her behind so hard, pushing the bad chemos &
> > Arimidex, .... that she would never get a clue, never wise-up.
> >
> > After I was harmed so badly by the chemo, radiation & Arimidex, .... the
> > treatments that she'd dictated & that the Longview Cancer Center had
> > followed thru on, .... after my heart & health were destroyed by this, &
> > I was being refused all medical care, .... Jenny Chang refused to help
> > me in any way, refused to refer me for help, refused to order testing to
> > see harm done.
> >
> > She's proved one lying, disgusting, low-life, skank-ho b1tch. May she
> > only rot in hell, both in this life & the next, for the harm she's
> > knowingly & deliberately done. May only hate & harm find her. May she
> > never know a moment's peace.
> >
> > There's also the butcher surgeon there, Anthony Lucci, who chopped up my
> > right breast, instead of removing it. [When he came back from lunch to
> > perform the surgery, he was very late (hours?) & giggling, & his asst
> > (minder) wasn't with him. I should have realized, there was something
> > wrong with him.]
> >
> > I'd not recommend Baylor in Houston or Dallas, for any reason. Nor M D
> > Anderson (UT).
> >
> > From what others say, Methodist is supposed to be the last good hospital
> > left in Texas, .... but it's very important Not to use any university
> > doctors, partly due to the PHARMA companies influence over them, over
> > their research & treatments.
> >
> > It's also important Not to ask for or take any doctor referrals, from
> > Methodist hospital.
> >
> > You'll need to find a doctor on your own, who has a good reputation.
> >
> > Also, don't use the Methodist Hospital staff doctors at all. I found
> > them extremely uniformed, poor quality, harmful.
> >
> > It's very difficult to navigate the Medical Industry, & try to find &
> > get to any legit care, .... esp. in states like Texas & Lousiana, where
> > there are no quality controls, & you have no rights.
> >
> > I hope that others won't be harmed as badly as I have been, & esp. Not
> > by the same individuals or med schools.
> >
> > I also know from experience, that Baylor has one of the worst Neurology
> > Depts going. [William Ondo, Rachel Doody, & such]
> >
> > Also, Methodist won't do anything, when you're harmed by the Baylor
> > docs, or by the quack-docs they (Methodist) recommend.
> >
> > And I'd super-not-recommend LSU in Shreveport La, for any reason. Esp.
> > not for surgery. It's an extremely dangerous area & campus.
> >
> > I'm listing some my experiences here, in the hope it will help others to
> > avoid the worst med care, rip-offs in $$$, physical suffering & pain.
> >
> > It's horrible to have been lied to & backstabbed by the docs about
> > cancer care, in & since 2001, .... & to be suffering to death like this,
> > because of it.
> >
> > This degree of betrayal, does hurt a great deal.
> >
> > One thing that helps some, is to hope & pray many times daily, that
> > those responsible for doing this harm, face far worse, .... that they
> > face only justice without mercy, .... & that they know in the next life,
> > we'll be waiting, to rip them to pieces for all eternity.
> >
> > ---------------------
> >
> > Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions
> >

The following is very bad news.

I was hopeful that Baylor had dismissed her, or put her on research
duties only, in order to better protect the cancer patients from her.

The main problem with her was, that she seemed to totally lack the
judgement or morals necessary, to work with cancer patients. She proved
hard, cold, cruel, arrogant.

She lies in presenting cancer treatments, flat-out lies about them, ....
deals in extremes & verbal nonsense, won't make sense, acts preoccupied
(sorta not in the present) & pompous, .... acts impatient, illogical &
irrational, .... refuses to answer questions, demands blind trust,
proclaims that she knows best, .... & then ignores the deadly serious
problems that happen during treatment & those that continue afterwards,
refuses to change anything, refuses to help or refer for help, refuses
to take any responsibility for harm done. Refuses to wise-up or get a
clue, regardless.

She's probably the worst choice possible, for any charity hospital. She
seems to enjoy harming others, enjoy abusing power.

It's also sad, & a comment about Baylor, that they've kept her on
regardless.

I keep working for & hoping, that the Medical Industry will change for
the better in Texas, .... that it will be forced to by the patients
(making better choices with their $$$) or by the legal system (lawsuits
for damages), .... but it doesn't & hasn't.

This is frustrating & frightening. Sad.

The very last thing that a person who is in last (or any) stage cancer,
needs to meet or try to deal with, is this lying sadistic doc.

Why do things like her, keep getting promoted & not punished, in the
current Medical Industry in Texas? Are only money & meanness, & abuse of
power, valued by them? Only bad mindset & morals, hypocrisy?

So sad.

Have all the years of hard work & sacrifice, .... of trying to get info,
& then inform & help/empower others with it, of trying to get things to
change for the better, .... been for nothing?

------------------------------------------------

quote:

Dr. Chang is the Chief of Breast Medical Oncology in Ben Taub General
Hospital, and an Associate Professor in the Breast Center, Baylor
College of Medicine, Houston, Texas.

Ben Taub General Hospital is an under-served inner city hospital, where
the lack of screening services has resulted in 60% of patients
presenting with locally advanced and metastatic disease, which is
generally incurable.

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Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions

I just looked up this doctors credentials and information. I've also
read bits of a few of her publications.

Wow. I would go to her for a consultation without question.

Su, I think you're treading on dangerous water here by posting the full
name.

Annie wrote:
> SK,
> I wanted to add that we've also told her it's not a good idea to post
> doctors names and facilities of those that have treated her, as she
> might just incur a law suit as she's putting this information on a
> public website that anyone can read and therefore come across this
> information. But obviously that hasn't worked either, not that we
> thought it would.
> Take care dear/God bless
> annie
>


Annie,

It's difficult to sue someone who doesn't have anything. However, it
probably wouldn't be beyond the realm of things for a judge to order no
more computer/web access.

Marie

SK said:

> I was sorry to read about all your problems. Obviously you're very
> bitter. Perhaps you have reason, perhaps you don't. We should all be
> aware there are two sides to every story.

Indeed. If a patient has a record of a hostile approach it's not going to
endear him/her to any medic, no matter how caring they are.
>
> For the benefit of those new to the group, I'd like to state right here
> that not all cancer doctors are ".lying, disgusting, low-life, skank-ho
> b1tch"'s. Or "butcher surgeons." In my six-year battle with bc, I
> haven't found a one who wasn't compassionate, knowledgeable, and caring.

Nor have I, in eight years. But those accusations were quite mild compared
with some we've heard from Su.
>
> Oncologists are a special, tough breed. They have to be. Unlike
> pediatricians, plastic surgeons, etc., they don't see a whole lot of happy
> endings. Instead, they must deal with heartbreak, suffering, and death
> every day. They must constantly look into anguished eyes and answer the
> question, "What are my chances?" Frankly I don't know how they do it,
> especially when they're blamed and vilified by people like you.

Courageously said, S.K. but expect to be added to the list of evil people
for saying that :-)
>
> Today we look back in horror at the "old days" of medicine: blood
> letting, no anesthetic, no washing hands. I have no doubt that a hundred
> years from now people will look back with the same kind of horror at the
> "primitive" cancer treatments we have today. But I'll tell you
> what...it's all we have and I honor and deeply appreciate those doctors
> who work with what they have to save our lives.

And so do I and so do most of the people on this group.

Annie said:

> We've been at this for "years" [yes, years!] with "Sue from Texas"
We've repeatedly told her that this was not a productive way to
contribute to a news group. We've [me/other "oldies here] have told her
[asked her] to please not post this way.

That's true, and we've been vilified for it. This is a cancer SUPPORT group,
we old survivors are used to Su's outbursts but I dread to think what
newcomers, seeking help, advice and solace, must think when they read such
vituperative words.

> We in NO way are trying to
stifle her participation in this group, nor have we ever during the
last [at least 6 years that I rmember] We only wanted her to be fair to
those that were new, coming here needing solid information, with their
hearts filled with fear.

That's right.

> We've tried various approaches and none so far have done us any good.
She is going to keep doing what's she's doing no matter who it scares
or hurts.

Yes, but it's up to us occasionally to point out the facts to newcomers.

> We've tried to help her in various ways and recommeneded several things
she could do to correct this treatment. We've offered ideas to help her
get through what we ALL know is a terrible thing to have to go through.
When we've tried to help her all she does is attack us and call us
"vile" names. Just ask me. I'm sure you'll see proof of this when she
reads this.

> She likes me alot....;-) [not!]

Me too. But she thinks that I have psychiatric problems because I once
(1993) had brain surgery :-)

> ... I know not everyone is lucky enough to get the best there
is....but most of the facilities that are in this country are
impressive centers and lots of people are alive today due to those
dedicated people that work at the various cancer care centers around
this country.

> I will close with the hopes that in posting this, that new comers will
not take what she says as gospel and perhaps not seek out the care they
need. That's what alot of us have told her might happen given the type
of posts she submits here.

Well said, Annie.

It's necessary sometimes to point out to newcomers that sometimes you
shouldn't believe everything you read here, sadly.

Hugs to all,

Mary

Annie, Mary, and All:

Thanks for the insights. If I've joined the "evil" ones, so be it. I'm
no legal expert, but I, too, think that lawsuit-wise, the lady is on very
shaky ground.

S.K.

"SK" <shirleyken@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> Annie, Mary, and All:
>
> Thanks for the insights. If I've joined the "evil" ones, so be it.
> I'm no legal expert, but I, too, think that lawsuit-wise, the lady is on
> very shaky ground.
>
> S.K.

I suspect that the members of the medical profession who have met Su are
confident in the knowledge that her claims are baseless and that their other
patients won't be affected. There'd be no point in going to law about her.

My concern, and Annie's, I'm sure, is about the effect on newcomers to this
group. They are often nervous and distraught, they need reassurance, comfort
and encouragement, not the Su's rantings.

It's up to us to give what they need, we're not going to have any influence
on Su but from time to time I believe that those of us who've been around
for some years should make the point that breast cancer doctors and nurses
are skilled and very caring.

It has been said by some in the past that Su 'contributes' to other
newsgroups in much the same manner as she does here, with as little
credence. It's only on this support group, however, that real damage to
vulnerable people could be caused.

We can't stop her posting, we wouldn't want to - if we can be of any help.
We'd very much like her to stop posting in the way that she does.

Mary
>
>

mariestrack@yahoo.com wrote:

> Su, I think you're treading on dangerous water here
>

I always suspected that Susan walked on water!

;-)

Tim

Annie,
Long time no postings, hope all is going well for you. Alex
"

From: tim@tim-jackson.co.uk (Tim*Jackson)

mariestrack@yahoo.com wrote:

Su, I think you're treading on dangerous water here

--------------------------

I always suspected that Susan walked on water!

;-)

Tim

---------------------------

(((Tim)))

Susan Wms, Su_Texas

In article <hed2h.9$9v5.7@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, jr70
@blackhole.invalid says...
> Sorry to hear that your experiences with cancer docs were so bad.
> For balance, I should relate my late wife's experiences.
> Her oncologists, surgeons, and medical staff were mostly caring
> and compassionate. ..

I also have to chime in with a good report. My wife's cancer was
herceptin sensitive,and just yesterday, after 6 months of chemo followed
by a quadranectomy and axillary dissection, the pathology report came
back that there were no more cancer cells to be found. We won this
battle, and the oncologist and surgeon did their job well. Now we face
radiation and some possibly some more chemo (to insure medical
menopause), but that is to reduce chances of local recurrence, not to
kill the cancer itself. It's all probability, it seems, and this time,
the dice came up with a payoff for us. I hope others have as much luck,
and I thank science for this blessing.

--
chagin1 at yahoo dot com

"full name" <chagin1@removethisyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>. We won this
> battle, and the oncologist and surgeon did their job well. Now we face
> radiation and some possibly some more chemo (to insure medical
> menopause), but that is to reduce chances of local recurrence, not to
> kill the cancer itself. It's all probability, it seems, and this time,
> the dice came up with a payoff for us. I hope others have as much luck,
> and I thank science for this blessing.

Good news, good news -- hooray! Congratulations! Thanks for letting us
know.

Ann T.
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<chagin1@removethisyahoo.com> wrote:


>I also have to chime in with a good report. My wife's cancer was
>herceptin sensitive,and just yesterday, after 6 months of chemo followed
>by a quadranectomy and axillary dissection, the pathology report came
>back that there were no more cancer cells to be found. We won this
>battle, and the oncologist and surgeon did their job well. Now we face
>radiation and some possibly some more chemo (to insure medical
>menopause), but that is to reduce chances of local recurrence, not to
>kill the cancer itself. It's all probability, it seems, and this time,
>the dice came up with a payoff for us. I hope others have as much luck,
>and I thank science for this blessing.

I look back at radiation as a delightful experience, after chemo. I hope
your wife has the same experience.

Marilyn

Thanks Mary! for the kind words about what I posted. I just get very
frustrated with what she posts. I know what's it like [as do others
here] to come looking for information when you're hit with this dx. I
can't thank everyone here enough for the hope and support that I got
when I logged on here 61/2 years ago. [whoa!] I feel truly blessed to
have gotten to know all of you. I don't think I'd have gotten along as
well, as I did without all of you here.

I hope you're doing well dear. I've tried to keep up with posts here,
but sometimes I get behind reading them.

I just had surgeon's appt today [11/3] and everything is going well. I
had my mammogram in Sept and that was good also. {YEAH!!!}
I had my bone density test and it looks like I've got the beginning of
osteopenia [sp?] mild so far. I was kidding with my mother the other
day and told her "my bones are thinning, too bad the outside isn't
doing the same thing...LOL!

And on the 21st of this month I'll be 4 years out from the second dx. I
am three years out from chemo [second time] as of June 6th this year.
That was a mile stone for me, as I only made it 2 years 11 months last
time.
I'm just now getting ready for the rest of the recon. It took me almost
4 years to get this approved, as the HMO I have as my insurance has got
a real jack@ for it's medical director.
But that's behind me now...Surgery is 11/27. I'm looking forward to
getting this finished.

Thanks again for your kind words and support regarding this matter.
God bless/You take care there dear
annie

Mary Fisher wrote:
> "SK" <shirleyken@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:yvI2h.4749$ya1.2133@news02.roc.ny...
> > Annie, Mary, and All:
> >
> > Thanks for the insights. If I've joined the "evil" ones, so be it.
> > I'm no legal expert, but I, too, think that lawsuit-wise, the lady is on
> > very shaky ground.
> >
> > S.K.
>
> I suspect that the members of the medical profession who have met Su are
> confident in the knowledge that her claims are baseless and that their other
> patients won't be affected. There'd be no point in going to law about her.
>
> My concern, and Annie's, I'm sure, is about the effect on newcomers to this
> group. They are often nervous and distraught, they need reassurance, comfort
> and encouragement, not the Su's rantings.
>
> It's up to us to give what they need, we're not going to have any influence
> on Su but from time to time I believe that those of us who've been around
> for some years should make the point that breast cancer doctors and nurses
> are skilled and very caring.
>
> It has been said by some in the past that Su 'contributes' to other
> newsgroups in much the same manner as she does here, with as little
> credence. It's only on this support group, however, that real damage to
> vulnerable people could be caused.
>
> We can't stop her posting, we wouldn't want to - if we can be of any help.
> We'd very much like her to stop posting in the way that she does.
>
> Mary
> >
> >

"Annie" <missannie50@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Mary! for the kind words about what I posted. I just get very
> frustrated with what she posts.

I know ... :-(

But at least we've warned newcomers for a while, until it starts again.

>
> I hope you're doing well dear. I've tried to keep up with posts here,
> but sometimes I get behind reading them.

I have no symptoms of bc but am still having symtoms 'down there!' of an
over abundance of oestrogen. At my age!
>
> I just had surgeon's appt today [11/3] and everything is going well. I
> had my mammogram in Sept and that was good also. {YEAH!!!}
> I had my bone density test and it looks like I've got the beginning of
> osteopenia [sp?] mild so far. I was kidding with my mother the other
> day and told her "my bones are thinning, too bad the outside isn't
> doing the same thing...LOL!

I've never had a bone density test but if I do I hope I remember that!
>
> And on the 21st of this month I'll be 4 years out from the second dx. I
> am three years out from chemo [second time] as of June 6th this year.
> That was a mile stone for me, as I only made it 2 years 11 months last
> time.
> I'm just now getting ready for the rest of the recon. It took me almost
> 4 years to get this approved, as the HMO I have as my insurance has got
> a real jack@ for it's medical director.
> But that's behind me now...Surgery is 11/27. I'm looking forward to
> getting this finished.

I don't understand this, Annie, what surgery?
>
> Thanks again for your kind words and support regarding this matter.
> God bless/You take care there dear

And you , keep us posted.

Mary

Hello Annie,
I too, hope that all is well with you (and family).

Barb

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>
>
> I have no symptoms of bc but am still having symtoms 'down there!' of an
> over abundance of oestrogen. At my age!
>>

<Puzzled>

Australia?!??

<G>

Ann T.
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>>
>> I have no symptoms of bc but am still having symptoms 'down there!' of an
>> over abundance of oestrogen. At my age!
>>>
>
> <Puzzled>
>
> Australia?!??
>
> <G>

:-)))))

Just in case you don't have the same long standing joke over there, it's an
old British euphemism, beloved of comedians, to indicate "wimmins'
troubles".

But recently, since Spouse has had his hydrocele (sounds like something
you'd buy at a plumbers' merchant) and diagnosis of prostate cancer and
surgery we've referred to his problems as 'down there'.

Mary

The "evil" ones are the fun crowd...LOL! Take care there dear/God bless
annie
SK wrote:
> Annie, Mary, and All:
>
> Thanks for the insights. If I've joined the "evil" ones, so be it. I'm
> no legal expert, but I, too, think that lawsuit-wise, the lady is on very
> shaky ground.
>
> S.K.

Mary,
I haven't been reading all that often in here, and didn't know about
your hubby. I'm so sorry to hear that this has happenned. I truly hope
that surgery and treatment go well for him. Please know that you're
both in my thoughts and prayers for him for a speedy recovery, and a
good outcome once you both get through what's ahead.
Take care there dear/God bless
annie


Mary Fisher wrote:
> "A.P. Thorsen" <annthorsendontsendspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >>
> >>
> >> I have no symptoms of bc but am still having symptoms 'down there!' of an
> >> over abundance of oestrogen. At my age!
> >>>
> >
> > <Puzzled>
> >
> > Australia?!??
> >
> > <G>
>
> :-)))))
>
> Just in case you don't have the same long standing joke over there, it's an
> old British euphemism, beloved of comedians, to indicate "wimmins'
> troubles".
>
> But recently, since Spouse has had his hydrocele (sounds like something
> you'd buy at a plumbers' merchant) and diagnosis of prostate cancer and
> surgery we've referred to his problems as 'down there'.
>
> Mary

"Annie" <missannie50@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Mary,
> I haven't been reading all that often in here, and didn't know about
> your hubby. I'm so sorry to hear that this has happenned. I truly hope
> that surgery and treatment go well for him.

It has done - so far! Don't be sorry about it, we're au fait with cancer and
know that it needn't be the end of the world. He made a very swift recovery,
was 100% continent after a few days, has a beautiful neat scar which looks
like a fine weld from belly to willy and now, after eight weeks, he's back
to full working condition apart from the impotency and we're working on that
:-) I'd rather be a celibate wife than any kind of widow.

> Please know that you're
> both in my thoughts and prayers for him for a speedy recovery, and a
> good outcome once you both get through what's ahead.

Thank you! We'll be seeing the surgeon soon and see what he has to say. I'll
let you know.

Mary

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>> "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>> I have no symptoms of bc but am still having symptoms 'down there!' of
>>> an over abundance of oestrogen. At my age!
>>>>
>>
>> <Puzzled>
>>
>> Australia?!??
>>
>> <G>
>
> :-)))))
>
> Just in case you don't have the same long standing joke over there, it's
> an old British euphemism, beloved of comedians, to indicate "wimmins'
> troubles".

Vernacular here, also - but I couldn't resist (bad Ann! naughty Ann!)
especially as I've always found the expression a curious one.

> But recently, since Spouse has had his hydrocele (sounds like something
> you'd buy at a plumbers' merchant) and diagnosis of prostate cancer and
> surgery we've referred to his problems as 'down there'.

Y'all have had more than your share of troubles recently - "down there" or
elsewhere!

Hoping things will assume a more placid state soon . . . .

Ann T.
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>>
>> Just in case you don't have the same long standing joke over there, it's
>> an old British euphemism, beloved of comedians, to indicate "wimmins'
>> troubles".
>
> Vernacular here, also - but I couldn't resist (bad Ann! naughty Ann!)<