11 / 11 / 11

[Steve Kramer]

Today, it is Veteran's Day in the United States. You may find splashed on
FaceBook that a Veteran is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
wrote a blank check made payable to the people of the United States of
America for an amount "up to, and including my life. While, this is true,
it also describes police officers, fire fighters, and most any man of decent
character who runs into a life threatening situation. To me, however, a man
of decent character will usually never have the occasion to write the check.
The fire fighter will usually be able to manage the situation. Police
Officers will invariably write the check, but try to avoid doing so. A
Veteran writes the check with every intention of going into harm's way.
Some are even disappointed when they leave and the check hasn't been cashed.

So, a salute to the Veterans of the United States and those who have served
to fight with the United States in order to manage, if not actually bring,
justice in the world.

And those of whom I have known on this newsgroup:

William Boyd, 1953 to 1983
Jeff, U.S. Airborne
Taz92652, Army
Dan S, Army, Majory, 1967 to 1986
Limey, Her British Royal Navy WWII, 1942 to 1945
Arnie, Army Atomic Veteran, 1952
H. Sharrott, Army and Air Force, 1961 to 1977
JerryW, Army, 1969 to 1972, Captain
Larry Dick, 1964 to 1971
Jeanne Dick, 1967 to 1968
John Preston, Her Majesty’s Royal Air Force (Deceased)
ChuckP, Marines, Lance Corporal
Don Reese, MN National Guard
Bob C, Navy, 1966 to 1969
Steve Tew, Navy Chief
Quillback, Navy, Submariner
Wick, Navy, WWII
MikeHi, Royal Air Force
Bruce the Muce, Royacl Canadian Air Force
Newsguy, Air Force
Ron Brown, Air Force, Viet Nam (Deceased)
Naaman, Air Force, 1956 to 1960
Danger Mouse, Air Force, 1968 to 1972
Vince, Air Force, 1969 to 1973
I P Freely, Air Force, Ret Major 1988
Robert Young, Marine (Deceased)
Dave LaCourse, Navy
Scrapiro, Navy
Ronju99, Navy, 1959 to 1963, MM 2/c
Califchief, Naval Reserve, 1953 to 1979
C palmer, Navy
Starrin
RJ
Canada Bob
David S
P. Parker
Number 9
Danny McCarty
Gary Nichols (Deceased)
Mary K. Farrell
Jim Thomas
Iowa
Steve Jordan (Deceased)
Hugh Kearnley (Playing God’s organ for Steve)
WebDon

And, my father, Robert S. Kramer, Marine, 1951 to 1953, SSgt, Korea
(Deceased)

[Gourd Dancer]

Me too..... Army, 1969-1972, Captain currently IRR



GD

"Steve Kramer" wrote in message news:j9j8fc$bm4$[email protected]..

Today, it is Veteran's Day in the United States. You may find splashed on
FaceBook that a Veteran is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
wrote a blank check made payable to the people of the United States of
America for an amount "up to, and including my life. While, this is true,
it also describes police officers, fire fighters, and most any man of decent
character who runs into a life threatening situation. To me, however, a man
of decent character will usually never have the occasion to write the check.
The fire fighter will usually be able to manage the situation. Police
Officers will invariably write the check, but try to avoid doing so. A
Veteran writes the check with every intention of going into harm's way.
Some are even disappointed when they leave and the check hasn't been cashed.

So, a salute to the Veterans of the United States and those who have served
to fight with the United States in order to manage, if not actually bring,
justice in the world.

And those of whom I have known on this newsgroup:

William Boyd, 1953 to 1983
Jeff, U.S. Airborne
Taz92652, Army
Dan S, Army, Majory, 1967 to 1986
Limey, Her British Royal Navy WWII, 1942 to 1945
Arnie, Army Atomic Veteran, 1952
H. Sharrott, Army and Air Force, 1961 to 1977
JerryW, Army, 1969 to 1972, Captain
Larry Dick, 1964 to 1971
Jeanne Dick, 1967 to 1968
John Preston, Her Majesty’s Royal Air Force (Deceased)
ChuckP, Marines, Lance Corporal
Don Reese, MN National Guard
Bob C, Navy, 1966 to 1969
Steve Tew, Navy Chief
Quillback, Navy, Submariner
Wick, Navy, WWII
MikeHi, Royal Air Force
Bruce the Muce, Royacl Canadian Air Force
Newsguy, Air Force
Ron Brown, Air Force, Viet Nam (Deceased)
Naaman, Air Force, 1956 to 1960
Danger Mouse, Air Force, 1968 to 1972
Vince, Air Force, 1969 to 1973
I P Freely, Air Force, Ret Major 1988
Robert Young, Marine (Deceased)
Dave LaCourse, Navy
Scrapiro, Navy
Ronju99, Navy, 1959 to 1963, MM 2/c
Califchief, Naval Reserve, 1953 to 1979
C palmer, Navy
Starrin
RJ
Canada Bob
David S
P. Parker
Number 9
Danny McCarty
Gary Nichols (Deceased)
Mary K. Farrell
Jim Thomas
Iowa
Steve Jordan (Deceased)
Hugh Kearnley (Playing God’s organ for Steve)
WebDon

And, my father, Robert S. Kramer, Marine, 1951 to 1953, SSgt, Korea
(Deceased)

[c palmer]

and not all wounds are physical. a lot of them have mental issues with
what they did or saw.... and they will have to live with this for as
long as they live.

they are truly america's heroes. more so than the sports figures, or
race car drivers that get paid big bucks to entertain the fans....

our military did their jobs in the most dirty, grimy and the worst of
conditions and never got paid for what the job was really worth in terms
of money....

even now, the iraqi vets are coming back home to america, only to find
out that they can't get a job and are homeless.

as i slowly stand up on those old arthritic knees and stand at attention
- i proudly lift my hand to salute all my fellow brothers and sisters
that served with me and to remember those who did not come back alive to
be with their families..... you will not be forgotten.

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc

[Steve Kramer]

Iknewdat!

Very sorry, Mike. Somehow I skipped you.

Thank you too for your service.







"Gourd Dancer" wrote in message news:j9kc6m$v0p$[email protected]..

Me too..... Army, 1969-1972, Captain currently IRR



GD

"Steve Kramer" wrote in message news:j9j8fc$bm4$[email protected]..

Today, it is Veteran's Day in the United States. You may find splashed on
FaceBook that a Veteran is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
wrote a blank check made payable to the people of the United States of
America for an amount "up to, and including my life. While, this is true,
it also describes police officers, fire fighters, and most any man of decent
character who runs into a life threatening situation. To me, however, a man
of decent character will usually never have the occasion to write the check.
The fire fighter will usually be able to manage the situation. Police
Officers will invariably write the check, but try to avoid doing so. A
Veteran writes the check with every intention of going into harm's way.
Some are even disappointed when they leave and the check hasn't been cashed.

So, a salute to the Veterans of the United States and those who have served
to fight with the United States in order to manage, if not actually bring,
justice in the world.

And those of whom I have known on this newsgroup:

William Boyd, 1953 to 1983
Jeff, U.S. Airborne
Taz92652, Army
Dan S, Army, Majory, 1967 to 1986
Limey, Her British Royal Navy WWII, 1942 to 1945
Arnie, Army Atomic Veteran, 1952
H. Sharrott, Army and Air Force, 1961 to 1977
JerryW, Army, 1969 to 1972, Captain
Larry Dick, 1964 to 1971
Jeanne Dick, 1967 to 1968
John Preston, Her Majesty’s Royal Air Force (Deceased)
ChuckP, Marines, Lance Corporal
Don Reese, MN National Guard
Bob C, Navy, 1966 to 1969
Steve Tew, Navy Chief
Quillback, Navy, Submariner
Wick, Navy, WWII
MikeHi, Royal Air Force
Bruce the Muce, Royacl Canadian Air Force
Newsguy, Air Force
Ron Brown, Air Force, Viet Nam (Deceased)
Naaman, Air Force, 1956 to 1960
Danger Mouse, Air Force, 1968 to 1972
Vince, Air Force, 1969 to 1973
I P Freely, Air Force, Ret Major 1988
Robert Young, Marine (Deceased)
Dave LaCourse, Navy
Scrapiro, Navy
Ronju99, Navy, 1959 to 1963, MM 2/c
Califchief, Naval Reserve, 1953 to 1979
C palmer, Navy
Starrin
RJ
Canada Bob
David S
P. Parker
Number 9
Danny McCarty
Gary Nichols (Deceased)
Mary K. Farrell
Jim Thomas
Iowa
Steve Jordan (Deceased)
Hugh Kearnley (Playing God’s organ for Steve)
WebDon

And, my father, Robert S. Kramer, Marine, 1951 to 1953, SSgt, Korea
(Deceased)

[Jeff]

On 11/11/2011 5:51 PM, Steve Kramer wrote:
> Iknewdat!
>
> Very sorry, Mike. Somehow I skipped you.
>
> Thank you too for your service.
>
>
Well, you don't really "know" me since I'm a newcomer but I'll weighin
with UK Parachute Regiment Capt (Ret'd)

[Gourd Dancer]

Steve, NP... actually smiled..... You never forget Veterans Day. God Bless
you.

Mike

"Steve Kramer" wrote in message news:j9kjeb$arn$[email protected]..

Iknewdat!

Very sorry, Mike. Somehow I skipped you.

Thank you too for your service.







"Gourd Dancer" wrote in message news:j9kc6m$v0p$[email protected]..

Me too..... Army, 1969-1972, Captain currently IRR



GD

"Steve Kramer" wrote in message news:j9j8fc$bm4$[email protected]..

Today, it is Veteran's Day in the United States. You may find splashed on
FaceBook that a Veteran is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
wrote a blank check made payable to the people of the United States of
America for an amount "up to, and including my life. While, this is true,
it also describes police officers, fire fighters, and most any man of decent
character who runs into a life threatening situation. To me, however, a man
of decent character will usually never have the occasion to write the check.
The fire fighter will usually be able to manage the situation. Police
Officers will invariably write the check, but try to avoid doing so. A
Veteran writes the check with every intention of going into harm's way.
Some are even disappointed when they leave and the check hasn't been cashed.

So, a salute to the Veterans of the United States and those who have served
to fight with the United States in order to manage, if not actually bring,
justice in the world.

And those of whom I have known on this newsgroup:

William Boyd, 1953 to 1983
Jeff, U.S. Airborne
Taz92652, Army
Dan S, Army, Majory, 1967 to 1986
Limey, Her British Royal Navy WWII, 1942 to 1945
Arnie, Army Atomic Veteran, 1952
H. Sharrott, Army and Air Force, 1961 to 1977
JerryW, Army, 1969 to 1972, Captain
Larry Dick, 1964 to 1971
Jeanne Dick, 1967 to 1968
John Preston, Her Majesty’s Royal Air Force (Deceased)
ChuckP, Marines, Lance Corporal
Don Reese, MN National Guard
Bob C, Navy, 1966 to 1969
Steve Tew, Navy Chief
Quillback, Navy, Submariner
Wick, Navy, WWII
MikeHi, Royal Air Force
Bruce the Muce, Royacl Canadian Air Force
Newsguy, Air Force
Ron Brown, Air Force, Viet Nam (Deceased)
Naaman, Air Force, 1956 to 1960
Danger Mouse, Air Force, 1968 to 1972
Vince, Air Force, 1969 to 1973
I P Freely, Air Force, Ret Major 1988
Robert Young, Marine (Deceased)
Dave LaCourse, Navy
Scrapiro, Navy
Ronju99, Navy, 1959 to 1963, MM 2/c
Califchief, Naval Reserve, 1953 to 1979
C palmer, Navy
Starrin
RJ
Canada Bob
David S
P. Parker
Number 9
Danny McCarty
Gary Nichols (Deceased)
Mary K. Farrell
Jim Thomas
Iowa
Steve Jordan (Deceased)
Hugh Kearnley (Playing God’s organ for Steve)
WebDon

And, my father, Robert S. Kramer, Marine, 1951 to 1953, SSgt, Korea
(Deceased)

[Tom Cular]

"c palmer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> and not all wounds are physical. a lot of them have mental issues with
> what they did or saw.... and they will have to live with this for as
> long as they live.
>
> they are truly america's heroes. more so than the sports figures, or
> race car drivers that get paid big bucks to entertain the fans....
>
> our military did their jobs in the most dirty, grimy and the worst of
> conditions and never got paid for what the job was really worth in terms
> of money....
>
> even now, the iraqi vets are coming back home to america, only to find
> out that they can't get a job and are homeless.
>
> as i slowly stand up on those old arthritic knees and stand at attention
> - i proudly lift my hand to salute all my fellow brothers and sisters
> that served with me and to remember those who did not come back alive to
> be with their families..... you will not be forgotten.
>
> ~ curtis
>
> knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
> "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
> invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
> http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
>
Curtis,

Great to hear from you, I pray that all is well for you and yours.

Steve,

There are many more that have not mentioned their military background in
this forum.


Tom
1st. Air Cav. 63-66
A.A 66-69

[Steve Kramer]

Thanks to you too, Tom



PSA OCT 2000 @ 46
Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c
RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7), T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years
Lupron started JULY 2003 @ 48
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
PSA <0.1 since Next draw AUG 2012 @ 57
Illegitimati non carborundum




"Tom Cular" wrote in message
news:201111120757.UTC.j9l8sv$4g3$[email protected]..


"c palmer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> and not all wounds are physical. a lot of them have mental issues with
> what they did or saw.... and they will have to live with this for as
> long as they live.
>
> they are truly america's heroes. more so than the sports figures, or
> race car drivers that get paid big bucks to entertain the fans....
>
> our military did their jobs in the most dirty, grimy and the worst of
> conditions and never got paid for what the job was really worth in terms
> of money....
>
> even now, the iraqi vets are coming back home to america, only to find
> out that they can't get a job and are homeless.
>
> as i slowly stand up on those old arthritic knees and stand at attention
> - i proudly lift my hand to salute all my fellow brothers and sisters
> that served with me and to remember those who did not come back alive to
> be with their families..... you will not be forgotten.
>
> ~ curtis
>
> knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
> "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
> invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
> http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
>
Curtis,

Great to hear from you, I pray that all is well for you and yours.

Steve,

There are many more that have not mentioned their military background in
this forum.


Tom
1st. Air Cav. 63-66
A.A 66-69

[Steve Kramer]

I DID include you, Jeff. Airborne.



PSA OCT 2000 @ 46
Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c
RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7), T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years
Lupron started JULY 2003 @ 48
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
PSA <0.1 since Next draw AUG 2012 @ 57
Illegitimati non carborundum




"Jeff" wrote in message news:j9knpb$bt6$[email protected]..

On 11/11/2011 5:51 PM, Steve Kramer wrote:
> Iknewdat!
>
> Very sorry, Mike. Somehow I skipped you.
>
> Thank you too for your service.
>
>
Well, you don't really "know" me since I'm a newcomer but I'll weighin
with UK Parachute Regiment Capt (Ret'd)

[Jeff]

On 12/11/2011 1:52 PM, Steve Kramer wrote:
> I DID include you, Jeff. Airborne.
>
Indeed you did, I missed it because it said US Airborne. Actually I was
UK Airborne but I have cross trained with 82nd and 101st - both great
outfits.