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  1. #1
    Steve Kramer Guest

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    Today, it is Veteran's Day in the United States. You may find splashed on
    FaceBook that a Veteran is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
    wrote a blank check made payable to the people of the United States of
    America for an amount "up to, and including my life. While, this is true,
    it also describes police officers, fire fighters, and most any man of decent
    character who runs into a life threatening situation. To me, however, a man
    of decent character will usually never have the occasion to write the check.
    The fire fighter will usually be able to manage the situation. Police
    Officers will invariably write the check, but try to avoid doing so. A
    Veteran writes the check with every intention of going into harm's way.
    Some are even disappointed when they leave and the check hasn't been cashed.

    So, a salute to the Veterans of the United States and those who have served
    to fight with the United States in order to manage, if not actually bring,
    justice in the world.

    And those of whom I have known on this newsgroup:

    William Boyd, 1953 to 1983
    Jeff, U.S. Airborne
    Taz92652, Army
    Dan S, Army, Majory, 1967 to 1986
    Limey, Her British Royal Navy WWII, 1942 to 1945
    Arnie, Army Atomic Veteran, 1952
    H. Sharrott, Army and Air Force, 1961 to 1977
    JerryW, Army, 1969 to 1972, Captain
    Larry Dick, 1964 to 1971
    Jeanne Dick, 1967 to 1968
    John Preston, Her Majesty’s Royal Air Force (Deceased)
    ChuckP, Marines, Lance Corporal
    Don Reese, MN National Guard
    Bob C, Navy, 1966 to 1969
    Steve Tew, Navy Chief
    Quillback, Navy, Submariner
    Wick, Navy, WWII
    MikeHi, Royal Air Force
    Bruce the Muce, Royacl Canadian Air Force
    Newsguy, Air Force
    Ron Brown, Air Force, Viet Nam (Deceased)
    Naaman, Air Force, 1956 to 1960
    Danger Mouse, Air Force, 1968 to 1972
    Vince, Air Force, 1969 to 1973
    I P Freely, Air Force, Ret Major 1988
    Robert Young, Marine (Deceased)
    Dave LaCourse, Navy
    Scrapiro, Navy
    Ronju99, Navy, 1959 to 1963, MM 2/c
    Califchief, Naval Reserve, 1953 to 1979
    C palmer, Navy
    Starrin
    RJ
    Canada Bob
    David S
    P. Parker
    Number 9
    Danny McCarty
    Gary Nichols (Deceased)
    Mary K. Farrell
    Jim Thomas
    Iowa
    Steve Jordan (Deceased)
    Hugh Kearnley (Playing God’s organ for Steve)
    WebDon

    And, my father, Robert S. Kramer, Marine, 1951 to 1953, SSgt, Korea
    (Deceased)





  2. #2
    Gourd Dancer Guest

    Default Re: 11 / 11 / 11

    Me too..... Army, 1969-1972, Captain currently IRR



    GD

    "Steve Kramer" wrote in message news:j9j8fc$bm4$[email protected]..

    Today, it is Veteran's Day in the United States. You may find splashed on
    FaceBook that a Veteran is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
    wrote a blank check made payable to the people of the United States of
    America for an amount "up to, and including my life. While, this is true,
    it also describes police officers, fire fighters, and most any man of decent
    character who runs into a life threatening situation. To me, however, a man
    of decent character will usually never have the occasion to write the check.
    The fire fighter will usually be able to manage the situation. Police
    Officers will invariably write the check, but try to avoid doing so. A
    Veteran writes the check with every intention of going into harm's way.
    Some are even disappointed when they leave and the check hasn't been cashed.

    So, a salute to the Veterans of the United States and those who have served
    to fight with the United States in order to manage, if not actually bring,
    justice in the world.

    And those of whom I have known on this newsgroup:

    William Boyd, 1953 to 1983
    Jeff, U.S. Airborne
    Taz92652, Army
    Dan S, Army, Majory, 1967 to 1986
    Limey, Her British Royal Navy WWII, 1942 to 1945
    Arnie, Army Atomic Veteran, 1952
    H. Sharrott, Army and Air Force, 1961 to 1977
    JerryW, Army, 1969 to 1972, Captain
    Larry Dick, 1964 to 1971
    Jeanne Dick, 1967 to 1968
    John Preston, Her Majesty’s Royal Air Force (Deceased)
    ChuckP, Marines, Lance Corporal
    Don Reese, MN National Guard
    Bob C, Navy, 1966 to 1969
    Steve Tew, Navy Chief
    Quillback, Navy, Submariner
    Wick, Navy, WWII
    MikeHi, Royal Air Force
    Bruce the Muce, Royacl Canadian Air Force
    Newsguy, Air Force
    Ron Brown, Air Force, Viet Nam (Deceased)
    Naaman, Air Force, 1956 to 1960
    Danger Mouse, Air Force, 1968 to 1972
    Vince, Air Force, 1969 to 1973
    I P Freely, Air Force, Ret Major 1988
    Robert Young, Marine (Deceased)
    Dave LaCourse, Navy
    Scrapiro, Navy
    Ronju99, Navy, 1959 to 1963, MM 2/c
    Califchief, Naval Reserve, 1953 to 1979
    C palmer, Navy
    Starrin
    RJ
    Canada Bob
    David S
    P. Parker
    Number 9
    Danny McCarty
    Gary Nichols (Deceased)
    Mary K. Farrell
    Jim Thomas
    Iowa
    Steve Jordan (Deceased)
    Hugh Kearnley (Playing God’s organ for Steve)
    WebDon

    And, my father, Robert S. Kramer, Marine, 1951 to 1953, SSgt, Korea
    (Deceased)




  3. #3
    c palmer Guest

    Default Re: 11 / 11 / 11

    and not all wounds are physical. a lot of them have mental issues with
    what they did or saw.... and they will have to live with this for as
    long as they live.

    they are truly america's heroes. more so than the sports figures, or
    race car drivers that get paid big bucks to entertain the fans....

    our military did their jobs in the most dirty, grimy and the worst of
    conditions and never got paid for what the job was really worth in terms
    of money....

    even now, the iraqi vets are coming back home to america, only to find
    out that they can't get a job and are homeless.

    as i slowly stand up on those old arthritic knees and stand at attention
    - i proudly lift my hand to salute all my fellow brothers and sisters
    that served with me and to remember those who did not come back alive to
    be with their families..... you will not be forgotten.

    ~ curtis

    knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
    "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
    invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
    http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc


  4. #4
    Steve Kramer Guest

    Default Re: 11 / 11 / 11

    Iknewdat!

    Very sorry, Mike. Somehow I skipped you.

    Thank you too for your service.







    "Gourd Dancer" wrote in message news:j9kc6m$v0p$[email protected]..

    Me too..... Army, 1969-1972, Captain currently IRR



    GD

    "Steve Kramer" wrote in message news:j9j8fc$bm4$[email protected]..

    Today, it is Veteran's Day in the United States. You may find splashed on
    FaceBook that a Veteran is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
    wrote a blank check made payable to the people of the United States of
    America for an amount "up to, and including my life. While, this is true,
    it also describes police officers, fire fighters, and most any man of decent
    character who runs into a life threatening situation. To me, however, a man
    of decent character will usually never have the occasion to write the check.
    The fire fighter will usually be able to manage the situation. Police
    Officers will invariably write the check, but try to avoid doing so. A
    Veteran writes the check with every intention of going into harm's way.
    Some are even disappointed when they leave and the check hasn't been cashed.

    So, a salute to the Veterans of the United States and those who have served
    to fight with the United States in order to manage, if not actually bring,
    justice in the world.

    And those of whom I have known on this newsgroup:

    William Boyd, 1953 to 1983
    Jeff, U.S. Airborne
    Taz92652, Army
    Dan S, Army, Majory, 1967 to 1986
    Limey, Her British Royal Navy WWII, 1942 to 1945
    Arnie, Army Atomic Veteran, 1952
    H. Sharrott, Army and Air Force, 1961 to 1977
    JerryW, Army, 1969 to 1972, Captain
    Larry Dick, 1964 to 1971
    Jeanne Dick, 1967 to 1968
    John Preston, Her Majesty’s Royal Air Force (Deceased)
    ChuckP, Marines, Lance Corporal
    Don Reese, MN National Guard
    Bob C, Navy, 1966 to 1969
    Steve Tew, Navy Chief
    Quillback, Navy, Submariner
    Wick, Navy, WWII
    MikeHi, Royal Air Force
    Bruce the Muce, Royacl Canadian Air Force
    Newsguy, Air Force
    Ron Brown, Air Force, Viet Nam (Deceased)
    Naaman, Air Force, 1956 to 1960
    Danger Mouse, Air Force, 1968 to 1972
    Vince, Air Force, 1969 to 1973
    I P Freely, Air Force, Ret Major 1988
    Robert Young, Marine (Deceased)
    Dave LaCourse, Navy
    Scrapiro, Navy
    Ronju99, Navy, 1959 to 1963, MM 2/c
    Califchief, Naval Reserve, 1953 to 1979
    C palmer, Navy
    Starrin
    RJ
    Canada Bob
    David S
    P. Parker
    Number 9
    Danny McCarty
    Gary Nichols (Deceased)
    Mary K. Farrell
    Jim Thomas
    Iowa
    Steve Jordan (Deceased)
    Hugh Kearnley (Playing God’s organ for Steve)
    WebDon

    And, my father, Robert S. Kramer, Marine, 1951 to 1953, SSgt, Korea
    (Deceased)



  5. #5
    Jeff Guest

    Default Re: 11 / 11 / 11

    On 11/11/2011 5:51 PM, Steve Kramer wrote:
    > Iknewdat!
    >
    > Very sorry, Mike. Somehow I skipped you.
    >
    > Thank you too for your service.
    >
    >

    Well, you don't really "know" me since I'm a newcomer but I'll weighin
    with UK Parachute Regiment Capt (Ret'd)

  6. #6
    Gourd Dancer Guest

    Default Re: 11 / 11 / 11

    Steve, NP... actually smiled..... You never forget Veterans Day. God Bless
    you.

    Mike

    "Steve Kramer" wrote in message news:j9kjeb$arn$[email protected]..

    Iknewdat!

    Very sorry, Mike. Somehow I skipped you.

    Thank you too for your service.







    "Gourd Dancer" wrote in message news:j9kc6m$v0p$[email protected]..

    Me too..... Army, 1969-1972, Captain currently IRR



    GD

    "Steve Kramer" wrote in message news:j9j8fc$bm4$[email protected]..

    Today, it is Veteran's Day in the United States. You may find splashed on
    FaceBook that a Veteran is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
    wrote a blank check made payable to the people of the United States of
    America for an amount "up to, and including my life. While, this is true,
    it also describes police officers, fire fighters, and most any man of decent
    character who runs into a life threatening situation. To me, however, a man
    of decent character will usually never have the occasion to write the check.
    The fire fighter will usually be able to manage the situation. Police
    Officers will invariably write the check, but try to avoid doing so. A
    Veteran writes the check with every intention of going into harm's way.
    Some are even disappointed when they leave and the check hasn't been cashed.

    So, a salute to the Veterans of the United States and those who have served
    to fight with the United States in order to manage, if not actually bring,
    justice in the world.

    And those of whom I have known on this newsgroup:

    William Boyd, 1953 to 1983
    Jeff, U.S. Airborne
    Taz92652, Army
    Dan S, Army, Majory, 1967 to 1986
    Limey, Her British Royal Navy WWII, 1942 to 1945
    Arnie, Army Atomic Veteran, 1952
    H. Sharrott, Army and Air Force, 1961 to 1977
    JerryW, Army, 1969 to 1972, Captain
    Larry Dick, 1964 to 1971
    Jeanne Dick, 1967 to 1968
    John Preston, Her Majesty’s Royal Air Force (Deceased)
    ChuckP, Marines, Lance Corporal
    Don Reese, MN National Guard
    Bob C, Navy, 1966 to 1969
    Steve Tew, Navy Chief
    Quillback, Navy, Submariner
    Wick, Navy, WWII
    MikeHi, Royal Air Force
    Bruce the Muce, Royacl Canadian Air Force
    Newsguy, Air Force
    Ron Brown, Air Force, Viet Nam (Deceased)
    Naaman, Air Force, 1956 to 1960
    Danger Mouse, Air Force, 1968 to 1972
    Vince, Air Force, 1969 to 1973
    I P Freely, Air Force, Ret Major 1988
    Robert Young, Marine (Deceased)
    Dave LaCourse, Navy
    Scrapiro, Navy
    Ronju99, Navy, 1959 to 1963, MM 2/c
    Califchief, Naval Reserve, 1953 to 1979
    C palmer, Navy
    Starrin
    RJ
    Canada Bob
    David S
    P. Parker
    Number 9
    Danny McCarty
    Gary Nichols (Deceased)
    Mary K. Farrell
    Jim Thomas
    Iowa
    Steve Jordan (Deceased)
    Hugh Kearnley (Playing God’s organ for Steve)
    WebDon

    And, my father, Robert S. Kramer, Marine, 1951 to 1953, SSgt, Korea
    (Deceased)


  7. #7
    Tom Cular Guest

    Default Re: 11 / 11 / 11


    "c palmer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > and not all wounds are physical. a lot of them have mental issues with
    > what they did or saw.... and they will have to live with this for as
    > long as they live.
    >
    > they are truly america's heroes. more so than the sports figures, or
    > race car drivers that get paid big bucks to entertain the fans....
    >
    > our military did their jobs in the most dirty, grimy and the worst of
    > conditions and never got paid for what the job was really worth in terms
    > of money....
    >
    > even now, the iraqi vets are coming back home to america, only to find
    > out that they can't get a job and are homeless.
    >
    > as i slowly stand up on those old arthritic knees and stand at attention
    > - i proudly lift my hand to salute all my fellow brothers and sisters
    > that served with me and to remember those who did not come back alive to
    > be with their families..... you will not be forgotten.
    >
    > ~ curtis
    >
    > knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
    > "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
    > invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
    > http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
    >

    Curtis,

    Great to hear from you, I pray that all is well for you and yours.

    Steve,

    There are many more that have not mentioned their military background in
    this forum.


    Tom
    1st. Air Cav. 63-66
    A.A 66-69











  8. #8
    Steve Kramer Guest

    Default Re: 11 / 11 / 11

    Thanks to you too, Tom



    PSA OCT 2000 @ 46
    Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c
    RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7), T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins
    PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
    EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47
    PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years
    Lupron started JULY 2003 @ 48
    PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
    Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
    PSA <0.1 since Next draw AUG 2012 @ 57
    Illegitimati non carborundum




    "Tom Cular" wrote in message
    news:201111120757.UTC.j9l8sv$4g3$[email protected]..


    "c palmer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > and not all wounds are physical. a lot of them have mental issues with
    > what they did or saw.... and they will have to live with this for as
    > long as they live.
    >
    > they are truly america's heroes. more so than the sports figures, or
    > race car drivers that get paid big bucks to entertain the fans....
    >
    > our military did their jobs in the most dirty, grimy and the worst of
    > conditions and never got paid for what the job was really worth in terms
    > of money....
    >
    > even now, the iraqi vets are coming back home to america, only to find
    > out that they can't get a job and are homeless.
    >
    > as i slowly stand up on those old arthritic knees and stand at attention
    > - i proudly lift my hand to salute all my fellow brothers and sisters
    > that served with me and to remember those who did not come back alive to
    > be with their families..... you will not be forgotten.
    >
    > ~ curtis
    >
    > knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
    > "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
    > invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
    > http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
    >

    Curtis,

    Great to hear from you, I pray that all is well for you and yours.

    Steve,

    There are many more that have not mentioned their military background in
    this forum.


    Tom
    1st. Air Cav. 63-66
    A.A 66-69










  9. #9
    Steve Kramer Guest

    Default Re: 11 / 11 / 11

    I DID include you, Jeff. Airborne.



    PSA OCT 2000 @ 46
    Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c
    RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7), T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins
    PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
    EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47
    PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years
    Lupron started JULY 2003 @ 48
    PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
    Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
    PSA <0.1 since Next draw AUG 2012 @ 57
    Illegitimati non carborundum




    "Jeff" wrote in message news:j9knpb$bt6$1@dont-ema[email protected]..

    On 11/11/2011 5:51 PM, Steve Kramer wrote:
    > Iknewdat!
    >
    > Very sorry, Mike. Somehow I skipped you.
    >
    > Thank you too for your service.
    >
    >

    Well, you don't really "know" me since I'm a newcomer but I'll weighin
    with UK Parachute Regiment Capt (Ret'd)

  10. #10
    Jeff Guest

    Default Re: 11 / 11 / 11

    On 12/11/2011 1:52 PM, Steve Kramer wrote:
    > I DID include you, Jeff. Airborne.
    >

    Indeed you did, I missed it because it said US Airborne. Actually I was
    UK Airborne but I have cross trained with 82nd and 101st - both great
    outfits.



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