6 Mths - Still Leaking

I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still
leak. Much of my leaking is due to stress like sneezing, coughing,
bending over to tie my shoe and of course lifting objects.

Is there still hope this will resolve by itself?

Last visit to the urologist suggested that down the road I could
have some surgery to relieve this from happening.

I'm kind of down on more surgery if I can't help it.

Second PSA post surgery was again, 0.01. If it wasn't for the
leaking (and no erection yet), I feel like I never had surgery.

Any suggestions, words of encouragement or advice?

Thanks,
Tony

TonyPA wrote:
> I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still
> leak.

Me, too, at 28 months, after my surgeon said he expected me to be dry
within a few months. He keeps insisting I do my Kegels regularly, I keep
forgetting. Maybe I'll try them for a few months some time if I can ever
form the habit . . .

I.P. Freely

Me too at 43 months. Most guys are pretty dry at 6 months but
improvement can continue up to 18 months. I continued to improve
slightly even after that but still use a couple of pads/day. "Stuff"
happens to paraphrase a popular bumper sticker. Kegels should help
with stress incontinence but my experience says they're not worth a
damn. One side note, my biopsy said I had cancer in the apex of the
prostate. I'm going to ask my surgeon when I see him in another
couple of weeks if my biopsy may have influenced him to dig deeper in
that area which is of course digging right into that last sphincter we
need for continence. While I don't expect him to remember my case
specifically, maybe he can comment generically on whether guys with
apexical (did I just make up a word?) cancer can expect some
leaking.

Anyway, pads are a bit of a bother but not the end of the world and
besides, you still have quite a bit of time for improvement.
Dave Perry

On Feb 25, 3:42 pm, TonyPA <tonyc...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still
> leak. Much of my leaking is due to stress like sneezing, coughing,
> bending over to tie my shoe and of course lifting objects.
>
> Is there still hope this will resolve by itself?
>
> Last visit to the urologist suggested that down the road I could
> have some surgery to relieve this from happening.
>
> I'm kind of down on more surgery if I can't help it.
>
> Second PSA post surgery was again, 0.01. If it wasn't for the
> leaking (and no erection yet), I feel like I never had surgery.
>
> Any suggestions, words of encouragement or advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony

I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still leak. Much
of my leaking is due to stress like sneezing, coughing, bending over to
tie my shoe and of course lifting objects.

Is there still hope this will resolve by
itself?

Any suggestions, words of encouragement or advice?

====> hi tony - at 6 months, i was still leaking. i just had my last
surgery from complications from the scarring of the bladder neck.

in fact, i slowly got a little drier as time went on. by 11 months, i
was about 95% dry.

at the 4 year coming up, i still leak off and on. yes, i leak when i
tie my shoes and sometimes when i lift things. you will find out that
you will adjust your lifestyle to help keep yourself dry. like if you
are going to lay down to work on a car or lift something, you will go to
the bathroom first to make sure you have an empty bladder.

and i still have times, where i will start to leak out of the clear
blue, it happened yesterday for example. just a few drops, and when
i'm really tired, i'll leak.

now, i can't speak for others. some say that they are dry from day one.
and some are leaking so bad that they need a clamp or sling installed.

so i guess the bottom line of all of this is simply the fact that we all
stood at the gambling table of life and shook the dice and whatever you
rolled is what you get.

i want to wish you to have a dry pad soon.

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc

On Feb 25, 6:42 pm, TonyPA <tonyc...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still
> leak. Much of my leaking is due to stress like sneezing, coughing,
> bending over to tie my shoe and of course lifting objects.
>
> Is there still hope this will resolve by itself?
>
> Last visit to the urologist suggested that down the road I could
> have some surgery to relieve this from happening.
>
> I'm kind of down on more surgery if I can't help it.
>
> Second PSA post surgery was again, 0.01. If it wasn't for the
> leaking (and no erection yet), I feel like I never had surgery.
>
> Any suggestions, words of encouragement or advice?

Are you doing the pelvic floor exercises?

There is a chart and discussion of progression of incontinence based
on
a study of 203 patients here:

http://palpable-prostate.blogspot.co...ontinence.html

At 30 weeks 85% of patients had minimal incontinence and at 54 weeks
91%
so there there are still some progress to minimal incontinence in the
second
half year.

In the next link is a discussion of urinary incontinence which
discusses a different
study and in that one after 18 months if one were still incontinence
one could
assume it was permanent:

http://palpable-prostate.blogspot.co...ontinence.html

This last link also gives links to instructions on pelvic floor
exercises and
gives links to sources of treatment for otherwise permanent
incontinence
after RP. If you do wind up permanently incontinent you might follow
up on those.

---
The Palpable Prostate
http://palpable-prostate.blogspot.com

On Feb 25, 7:42 pm, "dave perry" <jud...@aol.com> wrote:
> Me too at 43 months. Most guys are pretty dry at 6 months but
> improvement can continue up to 18 months. I continued to improve
> slightly even after that but still use a couple of pads/day. "Stuff"
> happens to paraphrase a popular bumper sticker. Kegels should help
> with stress incontinence but my experience says they're not worth a
> damn. One side note, my biopsy said I had cancer in the apex of the
> prostate. I'm going to ask my surgeon when I see him in another
> couple of weeks if my biopsy may have influenced him to dig deeper in
> that area which is of course digging right into that last sphincter we
> need for continence. While I don't expect him to remember my case
> specifically, maybe he can comment generically on whether guys with
> apexical (did I just make up a word?) cancer can expect some
> leaking.
>
> Anyway, pads are a bit of a bother but not the end of the world and
> besides, you still have quite a bit of time for improvement.
> Dave Perry
>
> On Feb 25, 3:42 pm, TonyPA <tonyc...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still
> > leak. Much of my leaking is due to stress like sneezing, coughing,
> > bending over to tie my shoe and of course lifting objects.
>
> > Is there still hope this will resolve by itself?
>
> > Last visit to the urologist suggested that down the road I could
> > have some surgery to relieve this from happening.
>
> > I'm kind of down on more surgery if I can't help it.
>
> > Second PSA post surgery was again, 0.01. If it wasn't for the
> > leaking (and no erection yet), I feel like I never had surgery.
>
> > Any suggestions, words of encouragement or advice?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Tony

Dave -

Apical.

-Gordy

On Feb 25, 7:06 pm, "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddabou...@noway.nohow> wrote:
> TonyPA wrote:
> > I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still
> > leak.
>
> Me, too, at 28 months, after my surgeon said he expected me to be dry
> within a few months. He keeps insisting I do my Kegels regularly, I keep
> forgetting. Maybe I'll try them for a few months some time if I can ever
> form the habit . . .

I would at least give the pelvic floor exercises a try although if you
have not
overcome incontinence after 12 - 18 months then its likely permanent.
In that case there are still steps you can take, though they involve
additional
surgery, as discussed in the second link in that post.

---
The Palpable Prostate
http://palpable-prostate.blogspot.com

dave perry wrote:
> pads are a bit of a bother but not the end of the world

I raid all the local Rite-Aids or Walgreens when they offer twofers on
the only pad I consider of any use, the Serenity for Men. That way a
very generous week's supply costs $2-$3.

I.P.

c palmer wrote:

> you will adjust your lifestyle to help keep yourself dry. like if you
> are going to lay down to work on a car or lift something, you will go to
> the bathroom first to make sure you have an empty bladder.

I have better luck with just the opposite: if I'm doing heavy work, I
make sure I keep some urine in my bladder, enough to send a signal to my
sphincter but not enough to stress it. (I stay dry when under stress
with a full bladder, but it harms the bladder to remain full.)

I.P.

"TonyPA" <tonyc150@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:C2078918.1030A%tonyc150@verizon.net...
> I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still
> leak. Much of my leaking is due to stress like sneezing, coughing,
> bending over to tie my shoe and of course lifting objects.
>
> Is there still hope this will resolve by itself?

There is still hope. I'm not sure when my resolved itself. It was one of
those things that after six or seven months, I just realized that my pads
were always dry when I took them off.


> Second PSA post surgery was again, 0.01.

That's the most important thing

Thanks Gordy. I knew "apexical" wasn't correct but I couldn't think
of what the correct word could be and I was too lazy to look it up.
I'll be sure to use "apical" when I see my uro.
Dave Perry

On Feb 25, 5:07 pm, alv...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 25, 7:42 pm, "dave perry" <jud...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Me too at 43 months. Most guys are pretty dry at 6 months but
> > improvement can continue up to 18 months. I continued to improve
> > slightly even after that but still use a couple of pads/day. "Stuff"
> > happens to paraphrase a popular bumper sticker. Kegels should help
> > with stress incontinence but my experience says they're not worth a
> > damn. One side note, my biopsy said I had cancer in the apex of the
> > prostate. I'm going to ask my surgeon when I see him in another
> > couple of weeks if my biopsy may have influenced him to dig deeper in
> > that area which is of course digging right into that last sphincter we
> > need for continence. While I don't expect him to remember my case
> > specifically, maybe he can comment generically on whether guys with
> > apexical (did I just make up a word?) cancer can expect some
> > leaking.
>
> > Anyway, pads are a bit of a bother but not the end of the world and
> > besides, you still have quite a bit of time for improvement.
> > Dave Perry
>
> > On Feb 25, 3:42 pm, TonyPA <tonyc...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still
> > > leak. Much of my leaking is due to stress like sneezing, coughing,
> > > bending over to tie my shoe and of course lifting objects.
>
> > > Is there still hope this will resolve by itself?
>
> > > Last visit to the urologist suggested that down the road I could
> > > have some surgery to relieve this from happening.
>
> > > I'm kind of down on more surgery if I can't help it.
>
> > > Second PSA post surgery was again, 0.01. If it wasn't for the
> > > leaking (and no erection yet), I feel like I never had surgery.

>
> > > Any suggestions, words of encouragement or advice?
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony
>
> Dave -
>
> Apical.
>
> -Gordy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

>
> I raid all the local Rite-Aids or Walgreens when they offer twofers on
> the only pad I consider of any use, the Serenity for Men. That way a
> very generous week's supply costs $2-$3.
>
> I.P.
Thanks for the heads up so to speak. Many of my local suppliers
including Rite-Aids and Walgreens don't often carry Serenity for Men
and when I find them there's only one or two packages on the shelf and
never on sale. My last two packages came from Amazon.com at roughly
$5 less than the retail price around here, no way near two for one.
Free shipping over $20 so that helps. I'll continue to search the
shelves for sales. I still use Depends when "protection" isn't an
issue (around the house) but they are an inferior product especially
since they narrowed their absorbent area resulting in side leaks.

Leaks are becoming a part of my life in other ways. I've been trying
to track down a roof leak for the last two rainy seasons and now
there's a leak at the lower corner of my sliding door the source of
which is also eluding me. I've reduced both to a small trickle but
more goop is on order. At least I know exactly where my urinary leak
is coming from - I haven't tried the goop there yet.
Dave Perry

Steve Kramer wrote:
> after six or seven months, I just realized that my pads
> were always dry when I took them off.

Sometimes mine are dry after a day, sometimes I'm glad I'm at home
wearing sweats rather than out in public wearing khaki trousers . . .
and I can't predict which days will be which.

I.P.

Hello, Tony:
Congratulations on your second PSA test being so low.

I'm still leaking 3.5 months out. From what I've read, it's normal.
I do Kegels, but they don't really seem to improve things.

--charlie

RRP in August 2003. More or less totally incontinent of urine after
the bladder neck resection. Had the AMS 800 artificial urinary
sphincter implanted in September 2005. Did not work for me. Urethra
too small for the device that clamps off the urine flow. Going in a
week from today for a new sling procedure.

Suggest you do some research on the options, e.g., sling, clamps, and
so forth. Sounds to me like your case may be helped by the sling
procedure. That is day surgery that will leave you with black and
blue balls and a lot of soreness for a few days, but in the long run
maybe dry pants! Check it out. From what I saw with my last Google
search there are several new sling type procedures available.

Good luck. And good luck on the erections.

David S.


On Feb 25, 6:42 pm, TonyPA <tonyc...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still
> leak. Much of my leaking is due to stress like sneezing, coughing,
> bending over to tie my shoe and of course lifting objects.
>
> Is there still hope this will resolve by itself?
>
> Last visit to the urologist suggested that down the road I could
> have some surgery to relieve this from happening.
>
> I'm kind of down on more surgery if I can't help it.
>
> Second PSA post surgery was again, 0.01. If it wasn't for the
> leaking (and no erection yet), I feel like I never had surgery.
>
> Any suggestions, words of encouragement or advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony

dave perry wrote:
>> I raid all the local Rite-Aids or Walgreens when they offer twofers on
>> the only pad I consider of any use, the Serenity for Men. That way a
>> very generous week's supply costs $2-$3.
>>
>> I.P.
> Thanks for the heads up so to speak. Many of my local suppliers
> including Rite-Aids and Walgreens don't often carry Serenity for Men
> and when I find them there's only one or two packages on the shelf and
> never on sale.

Walgreens may have stopped carrying them. When the pads show up in
Rite-Aid's nationwide Sunday ad (as they are nationwide this week), we
ask one of the stores to order a case or two. I'm stocked up for several
months now at $3.50 per pack of 20.

Some Rite-Aids do not honor the corporate ads; those are listed on the
nationwide flyers. When I encounter one of those Rite-Aids, I tell them
I'm shopping at other Rite-Aids.

I.P.

Tony:

< .1 is definitely the important issue.

Kegels seem to help in the beginning. I could usually control leakage by
explicitly squeezing when I was doing something thay was prone to leaking.
If I didn't think about it, I would usually leak. I think that what happens
is that the mind/body subconsciously learns to tighten up when you sneeze,
laugh, bend over, etc. This happens over time. For me it took 2-3 months.
YMMV.

I would practise Kegels every now an then and let nature take its course.

David

Thanks to everyone that responded to my post.

I guess time will tell and I'll still have hope. I ran into a friend of mine
that is considerably older than me and he dried up about 8 months
after surgery.

I am VERY grateful for my PSA scoring of 0.01. With only 10% of
my prostate involved with the cancer, I'm trusting (and praying)
that it's gone forever.

In the meantime, I'll deal with the pads and leaks and hope they
stop soon enough.

What's ironic is, prior to my surgery, my surgeon told me in the
10 yrs he's been performing the surgery, only 1 person has had
major leakage problems and most clear up after 8 weeks out
after surgery.

Thanks all again for the help and advice.

I'm sure there are tons of guys with success of clearing up and
it would have been nice hearing from some of those guys.

Take care all,
Tony

> From: "David&Joan" <djmarchand@cox.net>
> Organization: Cox
> Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer.prostate
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:18:31 -0800
> Subject: Re: 6 Mths - Still Leaking
>
> Tony:
>
> < .1 is definitely the important issue.
>
> Kegels seem to help in the beginning. I could usually control leakage by
> explicitly squeezing when I was doing something thay was prone to leaking.
> If I didn't think about it, I would usually leak. I think that what happens
> is that the mind/body subconsciously learns to tighten up when you sneeze,
> laugh, bend over, etc. This happens over time. For me it took 2-3 months.
> YMMV.
>
> I would practise Kegels every now an then and let nature take its course.
>
> David
>
>

It should be of some interest that Rite Aid is selling them, on-line, 2 for
1, and free shipping.

--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05,
2/06, 6/06
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
news:KPMEh.66$xo4.1@newsfe04.lga...
> dave perry wrote:
>>> I raid all the local Rite-Aids or Walgreens when they offer twofers on
>>> the only pad I consider of any use, the Serenity for Men. That way a
>>> very generous week's supply costs $2-$3.
>>>
>>> I.P.
>> Thanks for the heads up so to speak. Many of my local suppliers
>> including Rite-Aids and Walgreens don't often carry Serenity for Men
>> and when I find them there's only one or two packages on the shelf and
>> never on sale.
>
> Walgreens may have stopped carrying them. When the pads show up in
> Rite-Aid's nationwide Sunday ad (as they are nationwide this week), we ask
> one of the stores to order a case or two. I'm stocked up for several
> months now at $3.50 per pack of 20.
>
> Some Rite-Aids do not honor the corporate ads; those are listed on the
> nationwide flyers. When I encounter one of those Rite-Aids, I tell them
> I'm shopping at other Rite-Aids.
>
> I.P.

TonyPA wrote:
>
> What's ironic is, prior to my surgery, my surgeon told me in the
> 10 yrs he's been performing the surgery, only 1 person has had
> major leakage problems and most clear up after 8 weeks out
> after surgery.

My surgeon said that before and after my surgery; he seems genuinely
amazed at my leaky outcome, keeps urging me to get serious about my Kegels.

I.P.

Steve Kramer wrote:
> It should be of some interest that Rite Aid is selling them, on-line, 2 for
> 1, and free shipping.
>
Crap. I didn't realize their shipping was free. Could have saved us an
hour of driving around.

I.P.

"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
news:fd_Eh.44$9Q2.36@newsfe03.lga...
> Steve Kramer wrote:
>> It should be of some interest that Rite Aid is selling them, on-line, 2
>> for 1, and free shipping.
>>
> Crap. I didn't realize their shipping was free. Could have saved us an
> hour of driving around.

Yeah, but what pretty scenery!




--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05,
2/06, 6/06
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

Steve Kramer wrote:
> "I.P. Freely"wrote.
>> Steve Kramer wrote:
>>> It should be of some interest that Rite Aid is selling them, on-line, 2
>>> for 1, and free shipping.
>>>
>> Crap. I didn't realize their shipping was free. Could have saved us an
>> hour of driving around.
>
> Yeah, but what pretty scenery!

Back to bid'ness . . . I had no luck trying to order from them at their
sale price. I was able to get some pads -- but not the 20-packs -- in my
shopping basket, but it was at full price.

I.P.

"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
news:w_sFh.287$S21.248@newsfe05.lga...
> Steve Kramer wrote:
>> "I.P. Freely"wrote.
>>> Steve Kramer wrote:
>>>> It should be of some interest that Rite Aid is selling them, on-line, 2
>>>> for 1, and free shipping.
>>>>
>>> Crap. I didn't realize their shipping was free. Could have saved us an
>>> hour of driving around.
>>
>> Yeah, but what pretty scenery!
>
> Back to bid'ness . . . I had no luck trying to order from them at their
> sale price. I was able to get some pads -- but not the 20-packs -- in my
> shopping basket, but it was at full price.

I guess the sale is over. My need for pads is much less than yours, so I
only ordered two packs.




--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05,
2/06, 6/06
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

Steve Kramer wrote:
> "I.P. Freely" wrote
>> I had no luck trying to order from them at their
>> sale price. I was able to get some pads -- but not the 20-packs -- in my
>> shopping basket, but it was at full price.
>
> I guess the sale is over.

Nope; still on. Just can't put the 20-packs in the cart.

I.P.

"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
news:vfOFh.398$HK7.231@newsfe04.lga...
> Steve Kramer wrote:
>> "I.P. Freely" wrote
> >> I had no luck trying to order from them at their
>>> sale price. I was able to get some pads -- but not the 20-packs -- in my
>>> shopping basket, but it was at full price.
>>
>> I guess the sale is over.
>
> Nope; still on. Just can't put the 20-packs in the cart.

Then buy 10! And, later, buy 10 more.

Or do your Kegels ;-)

--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05,
2/06, 6/06
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

I did not see the 2 for 1 rate on rite-aid.com (drugstore.com). 48 pads is
$16.99 plus shipping. Amazon.com offers them for $13.42 with free shipping
if you "subscribe," that is, agree to buy them on a periodic basis (once a
month, once every two months, etc.).
"Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45e45176$0$18883$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> It should be of some interest that Rite Aid is selling them, on-line, 2
> for 1, and free shipping.
>
> --
> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
> PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05,
> 2/06, 6/06
> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145
> Casodex added daily 07/06
> PSA <0.04
> Non Illegitimi Carborundum
>
> "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
> news:KPMEh.66$xo4.1@newsfe04.lga...
>> dave perry wrote:
>>>> I raid all the local Rite-Aids or Walgreens when they offer twofers on
>>>> the only pad I consider of any use, the Serenity for Men. That way a
>>>> very generous week's supply costs $2-$3.
>>>>
>>>> I.P.
>>> Thanks for the heads up so to speak. Many of my local suppliers
>>> including Rite-Aids and Walgreens don't often carry Serenity for Men
>>> and when I find them there's only one or two packages on the shelf and
>>> never on sale.
>>
>> Walgreens may have stopped carrying them. When the pads show up in
>> Rite-Aid's nationwide Sunday ad (as they are nationwide this week), we
>> ask one of the stores to order a case or two. I'm stocked up for several
>> months now at $3.50 per pack of 20.
>>
>> Some Rite-Aids do not honor the corporate ads; those are listed on the
>> nationwide flyers. When I encounter one of those Rite-Aids, I tell them
>> I'm shopping at other Rite-Aids.
>>
>> I.P.
>
>

It would appear they have a regional identification capability.

See if you can get there by going here

http://www.riteaid.com/stores/weekly...=4&region=west


--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05,
2/06, 6/06
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

"Michael Kiely" <kielymh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ZiWFh.7$it6.6@newsfe12.lga...
>I did not see the 2 for 1 rate on rite-aid.com (drugstore.com). 48 pads is
>$16.99 plus shipping. Amazon.com offers them for $13.42 with free shipping
>if you "subscribe," that is, agree to buy them on a periodic basis (once a
>month, once every two months, etc.).
> "Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:45e45176$0$18883$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> It should be of some interest that Rite Aid is selling them, on-line, 2
>> for 1, and free shipping.
>>
>> --
>> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
>> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
>> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
>> PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
>> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
>> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
>> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05,
>> 2/06, 6/06
>> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145
>> Casodex added daily 07/06
>> PSA <0.04
>> Non Illegitimi Carborundum
>>
>> "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
>> news:KPMEh.66$xo4.1@newsfe04.lga...
>>> dave perry wrote:
>>>>> I raid all the local Rite-Aids or Walgreens when they offer twofers on
>>>>> the only pad I consider of any use, the Serenity for Men. That way a
>>>>> very generous week's supply costs $2-$3.
>>>>>
>>>>> I.P.
>>>> Thanks for the heads up so to speak. Many of my local suppliers
>>>> including Rite-Aids and Walgreens don't often carry Serenity for Men
>>>> and when I find them there's only one or two packages on the shelf and
>>>> never on sale.
>>>
>>> Walgreens may have stopped carrying them. When the pads show up in
>>> Rite-Aid's nationwide Sunday ad (as they are nationwide this week), we
>>> ask one of the stores to order a case or two. I'm stocked up for several
>>> months now at $3.50 per pack of 20.
>>>
>>> Some Rite-Aids do not honor the corporate ads; those are listed on the
>>> nationwide flyers. When I encounter one of those Rite-Aids, I tell them
>>> I'm shopping at other Rite-Aids.
>>>
>>> I.P.
>>
>>
>
>

I just bought two packs, 48 pads each, for $13.32 from Amazon and
there was no mention of req

On Mar 2, 6:14 am, "Michael Kiely" <kiel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I did not see the 2 for 1 rate on rite-aid.com (drugstore.com). 48 pads is
> $16.99 plus shipping. Amazon.com offers them for $13.42 with free shipping
> if you "subscribe," that is, agree to buy them on a periodic basis (once a
> month, once every two months, etc.)."Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45e45176$0$18883$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
>
> > It should be of some interest that Rite Aid is selling them, on-line, 2
> > for 1, and free shipping.
>
> > --
> > PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> > Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
> > RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
> > PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
> > EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
> > PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
> > Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05,
> > 2/06, 6/06
> > PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145
> > Casodex added daily 07/06
> > PSA <0.04
> > Non Illegitimi Carborundum
>
> > "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddabou...@noway.nohow> wrote in message
> >news:KPMEh.66$xo4.1@newsfe04.lga...
> >> dave perry wrote:
> >>>> I raid all the local Rite-Aids or Walgreens when they offer twofers on
> >>>> the only pad I consider of any use, the Serenity for Men. That way a
> >>>> very generous week's supply costs $2-$3.
>
> >>>> I.P.
> >>> Thanks for the heads up so to speak. Many of my local suppliers
> >>> including Rite-Aids and Walgreens don't often carry Serenity for Men
> >>> and when I find them there's only one or two packages on the shelf and
> >>> never on sale.
>
> >> Walgreens may have stopped carrying them. When the pads show up in
> >> Rite-Aid's nationwide Sunday ad (as they are nationwide this week), we
> >> ask one of the stores to order a case or two. I'm stocked up for several
> >> months now at $3.50 per pack of 20.
>
> >> Some Rite-Aids do not honor the corporate ads; those are listed on the
> >> nationwide flyers. When I encounter one of those Rite-Aids, I tell them
> >> I'm shopping at other Rite-Aids.
>
> >> I.P.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

dave perry wrote:
> I just bought two packs, 48 pads each, for $13.32 from Amazon and
> there was no mention of req

I buy 48 pads for $8.36 at local Rite Aids.

I.P.

Steve Kramer wrote:
> "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
> news:vfOFh.398$HK7.231@newsfe04.lga...
>> Steve Kramer wrote:
>>> "I.P. Freely" wrote
>>>> I had no luck trying to order from them at their
>>>> sale price. I was able to get some pads -- but not the 20-packs -- in my
>>>> shopping basket, but it was at full price.
>>> I guess the sale is over.
>> Nope; still on. Just can't put the 20-packs in the cart.
>
> Then buy 10! And, later, buy 10 more.

I'll try again.
Serenity for Men come in two package sizes. One size has 48 pads per
package (the 48-pack), the other size has 20 per package . . . the
20-pack. Only the 20-pack (a single bag of 20 pads) is on sale; the
48-pack (a single pack of 48 pads) is not on sale. But the only size
package I can put into my shopping cart is the 48-pack. I can't put any
quantity -- not one, 10, or 100 -- of 20-packs in the shopping cart.
Other buyers here aren't making that distinction, thus are trying to buy
the 48-packs, not realizing they are not on sale.

I.P.

On 25 Feb 2007, you wrote in alt.support.cancer.prostate:

> I'm closing in on 6 months since my prostatectomy and I still
> leak. Much of my leaking is due to stress like sneezing, coughing,
> bending over to tie my shoe and of course lifting objects.
>
> Is there still hope this will resolve by itself?
>
> Last visit to the urologist suggested that down the road I could
> have some surgery to relieve this from happening.
>
> I'm kind of down on more surgery if I can't help it.
>
> Second PSA post surgery was again, 0.01. If it wasn't for the
> leaking (and no erection yet), I feel like I never had surgery.
>
> Any suggestions, words of encouragement or advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>

Tony,
I had the same problem for a number of months. My RP was in Dec 05 and
I still leaked a bit, as you state, well into May. It progressively got
better until I didn't need any pads at all. It takes time, different
amounts of time for different men. Some uros consider the leaking like
coughing, sneezing, etc as being still fully continent.Only happens
occasionally.

Congrats on the great numbers 0.01 is super! I wasn't so lucky. My first
came back 0.87 and my second 5 weeks after that at 1.1 .

Continued good luck with both the PSA and the continence!!

Russ

What do you guys wear BVD;s or boxer shorts with the pads when leaking?

I was told to get some for after my husbands radiation seed implant on
the 20th of March.
He weighs over 200 lbs and wears boxer shorts.

I was at CVS drugstore and looked for some pads, but came away confused
with the sizes and how the pads will stay in or on .

shirleyann

Hello, Shirley Ann:

I know how you feel. When my father-in-law took me home from the
hospital after my catheter came out, we stopped at a Walgreen's to get
some more pads, as the discharge nurse said I shoudl try something
different than what I had on. So I stood there staring and mostly
feeling like a fool for not knowing what did what.

The pads (or guards) for men are designed to cup the man's testicles
and penis. They're held in place by adhesive that attaches to the
underwear. I do not know if one can wear pads with boxers; I've read
it both ways on this newsgroup -- I've always worn briefs. The
product package will say "for men" on it.

Some of the men on this newsgroup have suggested that using women's
sanitary products work well, also, and that they are cheaper than the
guards. I suspect that their incontinence issues are pretty mild, but
that might be an option if your husband's leakage is minor.

The other products you see are the protective briefs. There are two
styles: either a 'pull-up' that you wear like a brief, or one that
has adhesive strips so that it tapes, like an infant's diaper. The
advantage of the latter (I guess) is that there is less disrobing
required to change them, but I never use them.

I still leak a little too much to trust the pads for my entire work
day (it's been not quite 4 months since my LRP). So, I wear a
protective brief while at work, and change it around lunchtime if I've
leaked a lot. Since I can lock the restroom I use, I can partially
disrobe without problems.

The pads are pretty much a 'one-size-fits'all' thing. But the briefs
come in a couple of sizes and a few absorbency levels. The sizes
correspond to your husband's waist, and the absorbency level would be
determined by his leakage. So, when you see 'Depends Protective
Underwear Extra Absorbency Small/Medium,' that's for someone with
waist under 43 inches (?) and who is leaking enough so that the
regular absorbency level is not enough.

I hope it all goes well for your husband. How old a man is he? What
were the numbers associated with his diagnosis?

All the best,

Charlie

Shirley ann wrote:
> What do you guys wear BVD;s or boxer shorts with the pads when leaking?
>
> I was told to get some for after my husbands radiation seed implant on
> the 20th of March.
> He weighs over 200 lbs and wears boxer shorts.
>
> I was at CVS drugstore and looked for some pads, but came away confused
> with the sizes and how the pads will stay in or on .
>
> shirleyann
>
Briefs or boxer briefs are necessary to hold pads in place. I find boxer
briefs much more comfortable than briefs anyway, because the former
don't dig into the crease between leg and abdomen like briefs can.
And as far as I'm concerned, only one brand of pads is of any use:
Serenity for Men. Everything else is too narrow, allowing even the
smallest of puppies to stick his head out the side windows and drool
down the side of the car.

I.P.