Don Imus: "We're making tremendous progress"

Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:


Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
day....they kill cancer cells.

Shieffer: How are you doing with that?

Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.


"We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.

On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.

Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
one week:

http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807

Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
listen for themselves.

On Jun 4, 10:35*am, awthrawthr <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>
> Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
> what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
> planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
> day....they kill cancer cells.
>
> Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>
> Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
> tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>
> "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>
> On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
> score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
> and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>
> Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
> one week:
>
> http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>
> Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
> listen for themselves.

This is the third instance I've read of someone with prostate disease
using habaneros. But a search of medline and google scholar showed no
papers published that show burning your lips off can cure prostate
cancer.

kpo

In article
<88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec9dd@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
awthrawthr <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>
>
> Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
> what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
> planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
> day....they kill cancer cells.
>
> Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>
> Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
> tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>
>
> "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>
> On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
> score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
> and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>
> Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
> one week:
>
> http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>
> Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
> listen for themselves.

Don really needs to see a doctor and get that treated soon, unless he
just feels like giving up altogether.
--


"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

"The Captain"

"kaypeeoh" <kevinoneall@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:106620b0-a606-4c7f-ab53-5c095c0dbc99@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 4, 10:35 am, awthrawthr <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>
> Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
> what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
> planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
> day....they kill cancer cells.
>
> Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>
> Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
> tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>
> "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>
> On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
> score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
> and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>
> Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
> one week:
>
> http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>
> Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
> listen for themselves.

This is the third instance I've read of someone with prostate disease
using habaneros. But a search of medline and google scholar showed no
papers published that show burning your lips off can cure prostate
cancer.

kpo

Source: Reuters
WASHINGTON, March 15 (Reuters) - 16 Mar 2006 00:33:22 GMT - Capsaicin, which
makes peppers hot, can cause prostate cancer cells to kill themselves, U.S.
and Japanese researchers said on Wednesday. Capsaicin led 80 percent of
human prostate cancer cells growing in mice to commit suicide in a process
known as apoptosis, the researchers said. Prostate cancer tumors in mice fed
capsaicin were about one-fifth the size of tumors in untreated mice, they
reported in the journal Cancer Research.

"Capsaicin had a profound anti-proliferative effect on human prostate cancer
cells in culture," said Dr. Soren Lehmann of the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center
and the University of California Los Angeles School of Medicine. "It also
dramatically slowed the development of prostate tumors formed by those human
cell lines grown in mouse models."

While it is far easier to cure cancer in mice infected with human tumors
than it is in human beings, the findings suggest a possible future
treatment. They also may offer a good excuse for men who like spicy food to
eat more of it. Lehmann estimated that the mice ate the human equivalent of
400 milligrams of capsaicin three times a week. That is about the amount
found in three to eight fresh habanero peppers, depending on how hot the
peppers are.

The capsaicin inhibited the activity of NF-kappa beta, a molecular mechanism
that helps lead to apoptosis in many cell types. Prostate cancer is the most
common malignant cancer in U.S. men. It is diagnosed in 232,000 men every
year and kills up to 30,000 of them. Worldwide, 221,000 men die every year
from prostate cancer.

On Jun 4, 5:09*pm, dbu' <nos...@nobama.com.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> *awthrawthr <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>
> > Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
> > what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
> > planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
> > day....they kill cancer cells.
>
> > Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>
> > Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
> > tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>
> > "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>
> > On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
> > score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
> > and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>
> > Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
> > one week:
>
> >http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>
> > Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
> > listen for themselves.
>
> Don really needs to see a doctor and get that treated soon, unless he
> just feels like giving up altogether.
> --
>
> "What we've got here is failure to communicate"
>
> "The Captain"- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Don Imus is having his case overseen by two of the top urologists in
the US, according to Don's own words in the audio. One is at Columbia
University and the other is at UCLA. They are the ones who have
conducted the tests such as the c-reacive protein and SED rates which
are now zero, and the PSA-3 urinalysis which is moving dramatically in
the right direction, down from 200 to now 59.

In other words, the physicians are observing and charting his cure -
my cure - instead of causing his demise.

dbu' wrote:
> In article
> <88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec9dd@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> awthrawthr <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>>
>>
>> Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
>> what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
>> planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
>> day....they kill cancer cells.
>>
>> Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>>
>> Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
>> tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>>
>>
>> "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>>
>> On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
>> score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
>> and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>>
>> Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
>> one week:
>>
>> http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>>
>> Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
>> listen for themselves.
>
> Don really needs to see a doctor and get that treated soon, unless he
> just feels like giving up altogether.

he has been, and continues to to receive, treatment(s) per his doctor(s)
advice.

On Jun 4, 5:42*pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:
> dbu' wrote:
> > In article
> > <88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> > *awthrawthr <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>
> >> Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
> >> what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
> >> planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
> >> day....they kill cancer cells.
>
> >> Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>
> >> Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
> >> tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>
> >> "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>
> >> On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
> >> score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
> >> and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>
> >> Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
> >> one week:
>
> >>http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>
> >> Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
> >> listen for themselves.
>
> > Don really needs to see a doctor and get that treated soon, unless he
> > just feels like giving up altogether.
>
> he has been, and continues to to receive, treatment(s) per his doctor(s)
> advice.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If you listen to the audio, you will hear Imus state, "You know,
actually the early indications are that we're making tremendous
progress with a COMPLETELY holistic approach."

The doctors' ONLY role has been to monitor his improvement through
various tests. He has received NO TREATMENT from the doctors. In that
regardin Imus is like Chuck Kinsey, who also received NO MEDICAL
TREATMENTS. He had boipsies before and after and various bloodwork in
between.

His first biopsy was a Gleason 6 (3+3). His second biopsy found no
malaignancy. One of the doctors wrote "Wow" on the biopsy report.

In other words, Imus (Gleason 7) is on his way to becoming the second
cured prostate cancer case without accepting ANY medical treatment
using my recipe. In fact, he is only the second prostate cancer
patient I am aware of who has tried my recipe.

Let me take that back. When I was still working, I knew a man whose
father had prostate cancer. His PSA dropped from around 8+ to 4. I
retired and didn't keep in touch. But I have little doubt the outcome
was like Chuck's and Don's.

awthrawthr wrote:
> On Jun 4, 5:42 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> wrote:
>> dbu' wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
>>> awthrawthr <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>>>> Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
>>>> what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
>>>> planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
>>>> day....they kill cancer cells.
>>>> Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>>>> Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
>>>> tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>>>> "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>>>> On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
>>>> score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
>>>> and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>>>> Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
>>>> one week:
>>>> http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>>>> Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
>>>> listen for themselves.
>>> Don really needs to see a doctor and get that treated soon, unless he
>>> just feels like giving up altogether.
>> he has been, and continues to to receive, treatment(s) per his doctor(s)
>> advice.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> If you listen to the audio, you will hear Imus state, "You know,
> actually the early indications are that we're making tremendous
> progress with a COMPLETELY holistic approach."

"Holism is primarily associated with healing processes and advocates
patient-centered medicine in which the physician treats the person as a
whole being, rather than focusing on a set of symptoms. It promotes
preventative medicine by maintaining the health of all aspects of the
self—physical, mental, emotional, spiritual. Generally, however,
holistic medicine is simply a generic phrase referring to a variety of
healing practices, some beneficial and some questionable."
>
> The doctors' ONLY role has been to monitor his improvement through
> various tests. He has received NO TREATMENT from the doctors.

provide verifiable citations for this assertion

>In that
> regardin Imus is like Chuck Kinsey, who also received NO MEDICAL
> TREATMENTS. He had boipsies before and after and various bloodwork in
> between.
>
> His first biopsy was a Gleason 6 (3+3). His second biopsy found no
> malaignancy. One of the doctors wrote "Wow" on the biopsy report.
>
> In other words, Imus (Gleason 7) is on his way to becoming the second
> cured prostate cancer case without accepting ANY medical treatment
> using my recipe. In fact, he is only the second prostate cancer
> patient I am aware of who has tried my recipe.
>
> Let me take that back. When I was still working, I knew a man whose
> father had prostate cancer. His PSA dropped from around 8+ to 4. I
> retired and didn't keep in touch. But I have little doubt the outcome
> was like Chuck's and Don's.

On Jun 4, 5:15*pm, kaypeeoh <kevinone...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 10:35*am, awthrawthr <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>
> > Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
> > what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
> > planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
> > day....they kill cancer cells.
>
> > Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>
> > Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
> > tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>
> > "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>
> > On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
> > score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
> > and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>
> > Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
> > one week:
>
> >http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>
> > Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
> > listen for themselves.
>
> This is the third instance I've read of someone with prostate disease
> using habaneros. *But a search of medline and google scholar showed no
> papers published that show burning your lips off can cure prostate
> cancer.
>
> kpo

Depends on where your lips are.

On Jun 4, 7:58*pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:
> awthrawthr wrote:
> > On Jun 4, 5:42 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> > wrote:
> >> dbu' wrote:
> >>> In article
> >>> <88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> >>> *awthrawthr <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
> >>>> Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
> >>>> what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
> >>>> planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
> >>>> day....they kill cancer cells.
> >>>> Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
> >>>> Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
> >>>> tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
> >>>> "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
> >>>> On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
> >>>> score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
> >>>> and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
> >>>> Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
> >>>> one week:
> >>>>http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
> >>>> Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
> >>>> listen for themselves.
> >>> Don really needs to see a doctor and get that treated soon, unless he
> >>> just feels like giving up altogether.
> >> he has been, and continues to to receive, treatment(s) per his doctor(s)
> >> advice.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > If you listen to the audio, you will hear Imus state, "You know,
> > actually the early indications are that we're making tremendous
> > progress with a COMPLETELY holistic approach."
>
> "Holism is primarily associated with healing processes and advocates
> patient-centered medicine in which the physician treats the person as a
> whole being, rather than focusing on a set of symptoms. It promotes
> preventative medicine by maintaining the health of all aspects of the
> self—physical, mental, emotional, spiritual. Generally, however,
> holistic medicine is simply a generic phrase referring to a variety of
> healing practices, some beneficial and some questionable."

You hang onto that sliver of nonsense if it makes you happy.

Don and Deirdre Imus are totally into orgainic food, etc. He wouldn't
have used the word comletely if he meant he as doing something else,
which he mentioned in this case was radiation, which he SAID he was
refusing.

He also SAID his doctors were hysterical about the course of treatment
he had decided on which is my recipe. Do you think they would have
been hysterical if he was combining it with THEIR treatment??

What in the hell would they care if he wanted to eat a pepper and a
couple cloves of garlic while they were treating him with any of their
methods. They could care less. The only thing that would make them
hysterical would be for him to exclude ALL of their treatments.


> > The doctors' ONLY role has been to monitor his improvement through
> > various tests. He has received NO TREATMENT from the doctors.
>
> provide verifiable citations for this assertion

Listen to the audio of Don Imus's own words...it's all there. There
would be no documents of methods NOT used.

>
>
>
> >In that
> > regardin Imus is like Chuck Kinsey, who also received NO MEDICAL
> > TREATMENTS. He had boipsies before and after and various bloodwork in
> > between.
>
> > His first biopsy was a Gleason 6 (3+3). His second biopsy found no
> > malaignancy. One of the doctors wrote "Wow" on the biopsy report.
>
> > In other words, Imus (Gleason 7) is on his way to becoming the second
> > cured prostate cancer case without accepting ANY medical treatment
> > using my recipe. In fact, he is only the second prostate cancer
> > patient I am aware of who has tried my recipe.
>
> > Let me take that back. When I was still working, I knew a man whose
> > father had prostate cancer. His PSA dropped from around 8+ to 4. I
> > retired and didn't keep in touch. But I have little doubt the outcome
> > was like Chuck's and Don's.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

awthrawthr wrote:

> On Jun 4, 5:42 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> wrote:
>
> > he has been, and continues to to receive, treatment(s) per his doctor(s)
> > advice.- Hide quoted text -
>
> If you listen to the audio, you will hear Imus state, "You know,
> actually the early indications are that we're making tremendous
> progress with a COMPLETELY holistic approach."
>
> The doctors' ONLY role has been to monitor his improvement through
> various tests. He has received NO TREATMENT from the doctors. In that
> regardin Imus is like Chuck Kinsey, who also received NO MEDICAL
> TREATMENTS. He had boipsies before and after and various bloodwork in
> between.
>
> His first biopsy was a Gleason 6 (3+3). His second biopsy found no
> malaignancy. One of the doctors wrote "Wow" on the biopsy report.
>
> In other words, Imus (Gleason 7) is on his way to becoming the second
> cured prostate cancer case without accepting ANY medical treatment
> using my recipe. In fact, he is only the second prostate cancer
> patient I am aware of who has tried my recipe.
>
> Let me take that back. When I was still working, I knew a man whose
> father had prostate cancer. His PSA dropped from around 8+ to 4. I
> retired and didn't keep in touch. But I have little doubt the outcome
> was like Chuck's and Don's.

News items say Gleason 6 (3+3) - low grade cancer.
Biopsies can miss. You'd know that if you were paying attention on the
prostate cancer newsgroup.
He'll be 69 in July. He looks awful here (like poor lung function); but looks
like he has something to sell.
So loves the publicity.
<
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03172009...ker_159960.htm
>

Regarding poor lung function
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Imus,_Don
"1994 Imus suffered a serious health problem that led to a collapsed lung and
surgery."

<
http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle...tors_diag.html
>
Once the PSA level is known, treatment could range from "watchful
surveillance" to radiation treatments to an operation in which the prostate
would be removed, Ennis says. Sometimes a combination of treatments is used.

"The appropriate treatment can spread all across the spectrum," he says,
adding that Imus is at "a pretty typical age" to be diagnosed with prostate
cancer.

The average age at which men develop prostate cancer is 70, Ennis says, and
after the age of 70 or 71, the risks associated with surgery grow. "Surgery
has more side effects so a lot of people shy away from it because of
incontinence and sexual problems," he says.

Though it may horrify men to learn, many of them may already have prostate
cancer that is never going to harm them, Gomella says.

"They have what are known as autopsy cancers," he says. "More men probably die
with prostate cancer than of prostate cancer. It is one of the only cancers
that people develop if they live long enough.

"Every man who lives to be 90 has a spot of cancer in his prostate," says
Gomella. "Our challenge is to find the men who early in life are developing
the more aggressive cancers that are likely to harm them."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509347,00.html
"He noted that doctors seemed reluctant to talk about one of his big worries:
What prostate cancer treatment will mean for his sex life."

CRP and SED rate measure inflammation.
So if a pepper /day helps his prostatitis, fine by me.
Just don't trick yourselves into believing his cancer is gone.
J

Did "awthrawthr" aka William Eidem, already mention that he is trying to
promote his book with this nonsense ? Just wait and see, it won't take
long.

Scum Bag, Kelly Eidem, stop posting crap in order to sell books that were
not written by you.

Cheers, rod
"awthrawthr" <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec9dd@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>
>
> Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
> what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
> planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
> day....they kill cancer cells.
>
> Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>
> Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
> tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>
>
> "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>
> On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
> score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
> and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>
> Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
> one week:
>
> http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>
> Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
> listen for themselves.
>
>

On Jun 5, 3:39*am, J <xewsnswex@nalid;"no> wrote:
> awthrawthr wrote:
> > On Jun 4, 5:42 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > he has been, and continues to to receive, treatment(s) per his doctor(s)
> > > advice.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > If you listen to the audio, you will hear Imus state, "You know,
> > actually the early indications are that we're making tremendous
> > progress with a COMPLETELY holistic approach."
>
> > The doctors' ONLY role has been to monitor his improvement through
> > various tests. He has received NO TREATMENT from the doctors. In that
> > regardin Imus is like Chuck Kinsey, who also received NO MEDICAL
> > TREATMENTS. He had boipsies before and after and various bloodwork in
> > between.
>
> > His first biopsy was a Gleason 6 (3+3). His second biopsy found no
> > malaignancy. One of the doctors wrote "Wow" on the biopsy report.
>
> > In other words, Imus (Gleason 7) is on his way to becoming the second
> > cured prostate cancer case without accepting ANY medical treatment
> > using my recipe. In fact, he is only the second prostate cancer
> > patient I am aware of who has tried my recipe.
>
> > Let me take that back. When I was still working, I knew a man whose
> > father had prostate cancer. His PSA dropped from around 8+ to 4. I
> > retired and didn't keep in touch. But I have little doubt the outcome
> > was like Chuck's and Don's.
>
> News items say Gleason 6 (3+3) - low grade cancer.
> Biopsies can miss. You'd know that if you were paying attention on the
> prostate cancer newsgroup.
> He'll be 69 in July. He looks awful here (like poor lung function); but looks
> like he has something to sell.
> So loves the publicity.
> <http://www.nypost.com/seven/03172009...imus_in_cancer...
>
>
>
> Regarding poor lung functionhttp://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Imus,_Don
> "1994 Imus suffered a serious health problem that led to a collapsed lungand
> surgery."
>
> <http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle...2009-03-16_som...
>
> Once the PSA level is known, treatment could range from "watchful
> surveillance" to radiation treatments to an operation in which the prostate
> would be removed, Ennis says. Sometimes a combination of treatments is used.
>
> "The appropriate treatment can spread all across the spectrum," he says,
> adding that Imus is at "a pretty typical age" to be diagnosed with prostate
> cancer.
>
> The average age at which men develop prostate cancer is 70, Ennis says, and
> after the age of 70 or 71, the risks associated with surgery grow. "Surgery
> has more side effects so a lot of people shy away from it because of
> incontinence and sexual problems," he says.
>
> Though it may horrify men to learn, many of them may already have prostate
> cancer that is never going to harm them, Gomella says.
>
> "They have what are known as autopsy cancers," he says. "More men probably die
> with prostate cancer than of prostate cancer. It is one of the only cancers
> that people develop if they live long enough.
>
> "Every man who lives to be 90 has a spot of cancer in his prostate," says
> Gomella. "Our challenge is to find the men who early in life are developing
> the more aggressive cancers that are likely to harm them."
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509347,00.html
> "He noted that doctors seemed reluctant to talk about one of his big worries:
> What prostate cancer treatment will mean for his sex life."
>
> CRP and SED rate measure inflammation.
> So if a pepper /day helps his prostatitis, fine by me.
> Just don't trick yourselves into believing his cancer is gone.
> J- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Nice post, good information.

Getting medical advice on prostate cancer from Don Imus is like
getting vaccine advice from his wife and/or Jenny McCarthy.

> Getting medical advice on prostate cancer from Don Imus is like
> getting vaccine advice from his wife and/or Jenny McCarthy.-




And you would be an expert on medical advice, Why?




On Jun 5, 9:24*am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 3:39*am, J <xewsnswex@nalid;"no> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > awthrawthr wrote:
> > > On Jun 4, 5:42 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > he has been, and continues to to receive, treatment(s) per his doctor(s)
> > > > advice.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > If you listen to the audio, you will hear Imus state, "You know,
> > > actually the early indications are that we're making tremendous
> > > progress with a COMPLETELY holistic approach."
>
> > > The doctors' ONLY role has been to monitor his improvement through
> > > various tests. He has received NO TREATMENT from the doctors. In that
> > > regardin Imus is like Chuck Kinsey, who also received NO MEDICAL
> > > TREATMENTS. He had boipsies before and after and various bloodwork in
> > > between.
>
> > > His first biopsy was a Gleason 6 (3+3). His second biopsy found no
> > > malaignancy. One of the doctors wrote "Wow" on the biopsy report.
>
> > > In other words, Imus (Gleason 7) is on his way to becoming the second
> > > cured prostate cancer case without accepting ANY medical treatment
> > > using my recipe. In fact, he is only the second prostate cancer
> > > patient I am aware of who has tried my recipe.
>
> > > Let me take that back. When I was still working, I knew a man whose
> > > father had prostate cancer. His PSA dropped from around 8+ to 4. I
> > > retired and didn't keep in touch. But I have little doubt the outcome
> > > was like Chuck's and Don's.
>
> > News items say Gleason 6 (3+3) - low grade cancer.
> > Biopsies can miss. You'd know that if you were paying attention on the
> > prostate cancer newsgroup.
> > He'll be 69 in July. He looks awful here (like poor lung function); butlooks
> > like he has something to sell.
> > So loves the publicity.
> > <http://www.nypost.com/seven/03172009...imus_in_cancer....
>
> > Regarding poor lung functionhttp://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Imus,_Don
> > "1994 Imus suffered a serious health problem that led to a collapsed lung and
> > surgery."
>
> > <http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle...2009-03-16_som....
>
> > Once the PSA level is known, treatment could range from "watchful
> > surveillance" to radiation treatments to an operation in which the prostate
> > would be removed, Ennis says. Sometimes a combination of treatments is used.
>
> > "The appropriate treatment can spread all across the spectrum," he says,
> > adding that Imus is at "a pretty typical age" to be diagnosed with prostate
> > cancer.
>
> > The average age at which men develop prostate cancer is 70, Ennis says,and
> > after the age of 70 or 71, the risks associated with surgery grow. "Surgery
> > has more side effects so a lot of people shy away from it because of
> > incontinence and sexual problems," he says.
>
> > Though it may horrify men to learn, many of them may already have prostate
> > cancer that is never going to harm them, Gomella says.
>
> > "They have what are known as autopsy cancers," he says. "More men probably die
> > with prostate cancer than of prostate cancer. It is one of the only cancers
> > that people develop if they live long enough.
>
> > "Every man who lives to be 90 has a spot of cancer in his prostate," says
> > Gomella. "Our challenge is to find the men who early in life are developing
> > the more aggressive cancers that are likely to harm them."
>
> >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509347,00.html
> > "He noted that doctors seemed reluctant to talk about one of his big worries:
> > What prostate cancer treatment will mean for his sex life."
>
> > CRP and SED rate measure inflammation.
> > So if a pepper /day helps his prostatitis, fine by me.
> > Just don't trick yourselves into believing his cancer is gone.
> > J- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Nice post, good information.
>
> Getting medical advice on prostate cancer from Don Imus is like
> getting vaccine advice from his wife and/or Jenny McCarthy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Imus knows less about prostate cancer than almost everyone here. Well,
except for you.

BEWARE OF FRAUDS!

--
"awthrawthr" <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec9dd@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
: Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:

Amazing how your name never came up in any news article that I've seen, nor
many details into Imus's treatment.

BEWARE OF FRAUDS.

"awthrawthr" <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3d45fc68-8f5d-4815-b5b9-7562c8bbad10@k2g2000yql.googlegroups.com...


Don Imus is having his case overseen - OVERSEEN? - by two of the top
urologists - SURGEONS? - in
the US, according to Don's own words in the audio. One is at Columbia
University and the other is at UCLA - I DON'T KNOW OF ANY 'TOP' UROS IN
THESE SCHOOLS -. They are the ones who have
conducted the tests such as the c-reacive protein and SED rates which
are now zero, and the PSA-3 urinalysis which is moving dramatically in
the right direction, down from 200 to now 59. - URNINALISYS?!?!? AND I
KEEP GETTING STUCK WITH A NEEDLE!!!

In other words, the physicians are observing and charting his cure -
my cure - instead of causing his demise. LIES, LIES, LIES.

Just realized I cross posted re this fraud. I apologize.

"awthrawthr" <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3d45fc68-8f5d-4815-b5b9-7562c8bbad10@k2g2000yql.googlegroups.com...

And more lies.

BEWARE OF FRAUDS.

"awthrawthr" <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f78b4c07-e383-4607-a827-cbd05dec6312@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 4, 5:42 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:
> dbu' wrote:
> > In article
> > <88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> > awthrawthr <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:

On Jun 5, 2:39*am, J <xewsnswex@nalid;"no> wrote:
> awthrawthr wrote:
> > On Jun 4, 5:42 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > he has been, and continues to to receive, treatment(s) per his doctor(s)
> > > advice.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > If you listen to the audio, you will hear Imus state, "You know,
> > actually the early indications are that we're making tremendous
> > progress with a COMPLETELY holistic approach."
>
> > The doctors' ONLY role has been to monitor his improvement through
> > various tests. He has received NO TREATMENT from the doctors. In that
> > regardin Imus is like Chuck Kinsey, who also received NO MEDICAL
> > TREATMENTS. He had boipsies before and after and various bloodwork in
> > between.
>
> > His first biopsy was a Gleason 6 (3+3). His second biopsy found no
> > malaignancy. One of the doctors wrote "Wow" on the biopsy report.
>
> > In other words, Imus (Gleason 7) is on his way to becoming the second
> > cured prostate cancer case without accepting ANY medical treatment
> > using my recipe. In fact, he is only the second prostate cancer
> > patient I am aware of who has tried my recipe.
>
> > Let me take that back. When I was still working, I knew a man whose
> > father had prostate cancer. His PSA dropped from around 8+ to 4. I
> > retired and didn't keep in touch. But I have little doubt the outcome
> > was like Chuck's and Don's.
>
> News items say Gleason 6 (3+3) - low grade cancer.
> Biopsies can miss. You'd know that if you were paying attention on the
> prostate cancer newsgroup.
> He'll be 69 in July. He looks awful here (like poor lung function); but looks
> like he has something to sell.
> So loves the publicity.
> <http://www.nypost.com/seven/03172009...imus_in_cancer...
>
>
>
> Regarding poor lung functionhttp://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Imus,_Don
> "1994 Imus suffered a serious health problem that led to a collapsed lungand
> surgery."
>
> <http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle...2009-03-16_som...
>
> Once the PSA level is known, treatment could range from "watchful
> surveillance" to radiation treatments to an operation in which the prostate
> would be removed, Ennis says. Sometimes a combination of treatments is used.
>
> "The appropriate treatment can spread all across the spectrum," he says,
> adding that Imus is at "a pretty typical age" to be diagnosed with prostate
> cancer.
>
> The average age at which men develop prostate cancer is 70, Ennis says, and
> after the age of 70 or 71, the risks associated with surgery grow. "Surgery
> has more side effects so a lot of people shy away from it because of
> incontinence and sexual problems," he says.
>
> Though it may horrify men to learn, many of them may already have prostate
> cancer that is never going to harm them, Gomella says.
>
> "They have what are known as autopsy cancers," he says. "More men probably die
> with prostate cancer than of prostate cancer. It is one of the only cancers
> that people develop if they live long enough.
>
> "Every man who lives to be 90 has a spot of cancer in his prostate," says
> Gomella. "Our challenge is to find the men who early in life are developing
> the more aggressive cancers that are likely to harm them."
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509347,00.html
> "He noted that doctors seemed reluctant to talk about one of his big worries:
> What prostate cancer treatment will mean for his sex life."
>
> CRP and SED rate measure inflammation.
> So if a pepper /day helps his prostatitis, fine by me.
> Just don't trick yourselves into believing his cancer is gone.
> J- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

A Gleason 6 (3+3) is a medium grade prostate cancer. His urologist was
apparently wanting to do radiation based on his comments he made 2-3
days ago. If his doctor had wanted to do watchful waiting, he wouldn't
have been hysterical about Imus's decision to do watchful waiting.

Imus doesn't look good in that phhoto taken within a day or two of his
revealing his cancer. The combination of an old lung problem and a new
diagnosis probably didn't help any.

I haven't seen a photo of him since then. It would be intereting to
compare the difference.

On Jun 5, 8:24*am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 3:39*am, J <xewsnswex@nalid;"no> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > awthrawthr wrote:
> > > On Jun 4, 5:42 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > he has been, and continues to to receive, treatment(s) per his doctor(s)
> > > > advice.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > If you listen to the audio, you will hear Imus state, "You know,
> > > actually the early indications are that we're making tremendous
> > > progress with a COMPLETELY holistic approach."
>
> > > The doctors' ONLY role has been to monitor his improvement through
> > > various tests. He has received NO TREATMENT from the doctors. In that
> > > regardin Imus is like Chuck Kinsey, who also received NO MEDICAL
> > > TREATMENTS. He had boipsies before and after and various bloodwork in
> > > between.
>
> > > His first biopsy was a Gleason 6 (3+3). His second biopsy found no
> > > malaignancy. One of the doctors wrote "Wow" on the biopsy report.
>
> > > In other words, Imus (Gleason 7) is on his way to becoming the second
> > > cured prostate cancer case without accepting ANY medical treatment
> > > using my recipe. In fact, he is only the second prostate cancer
> > > patient I am aware of who has tried my recipe.
>
> > > Let me take that back. When I was still working, I knew a man whose
> > > father had prostate cancer. His PSA dropped from around 8+ to 4. I
> > > retired and didn't keep in touch. But I have little doubt the outcome
> > > was like Chuck's and Don's.
>
> > News items say Gleason 6 (3+3) - low grade cancer.
> > Biopsies can miss. You'd know that if you were paying attention on the
> > prostate cancer newsgroup.
> > He'll be 69 in July. He looks awful here (like poor lung function); butlooks
> > like he has something to sell.
> > So loves the publicity.
> > <http://www.nypost.com/seven/03172009...imus_in_cancer....
>
> > Regarding poor lung functionhttp://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Imus,_Don
> > "1994 Imus suffered a serious health problem that led to a collapsed lung and
> > surgery."
>
> > <http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle...2009-03-16_som....
>
> > Once the PSA level is known, treatment could range from "watchful
> > surveillance" to radiation treatments to an operation in which the prostate
> > would be removed, Ennis says. Sometimes a combination of treatments is used.
>
> > "The appropriate treatment can spread all across the spectrum," he says,
> > adding that Imus is at "a pretty typical age" to be diagnosed with prostate
> > cancer.
>
> > The average age at which men develop prostate cancer is 70, Ennis says,and
> > after the age of 70 or 71, the risks associated with surgery grow. "Surgery
> > has more side effects so a lot of people shy away from it because of
> > incontinence and sexual problems," he says.
>
> > Though it may horrify men to learn, many of them may already have prostate
> > cancer that is never going to harm them, Gomella says.
>
> > "They have what are known as autopsy cancers," he says. "More men probably die
> > with prostate cancer than of prostate cancer. It is one of the only cancers
> > that people develop if they live long enough.
>
> > "Every man who lives to be 90 has a spot of cancer in his prostate," says
> > Gomella. "Our challenge is to find the men who early in life are developing
> > the more aggressive cancers that are likely to harm them."
>
> >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509347,00.html
> > "He noted that doctors seemed reluctant to talk about one of his big worries:
> > What prostate cancer treatment will mean for his sex life."
>
> > CRP and SED rate measure inflammation.
> > So if a pepper /day helps his prostatitis, fine by me.
> > Just don't trick yourselves into believing his cancer is gone.
> > J- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Nice post, good information.
>
> Getting medical advice on prostate cancer from Don Imus is like
> getting vaccine advice from his wife and/or Jenny McCarthy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Imus wasn't giving medical advice. Nor am I. I'm reporting his
progress while he follows my recipe.

Everything so far indicates he's doing much better. His inflammation
is down to zero although it had been extremely high. And now his PSA-3
is down 70%.

He is using no medical treatment...and he appears to be following in
the footsteps of Chuck Kinsey who is now cancer free following the
same recipe.

On Jun 5, 3:03*am, "Andre" <patrouil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Did "awthrawthr" aka William Eidem, already mention that he is trying to
> promote his book with this nonsense ? *Just wait and see, it won't take
> long.

I am the author of a book. My recipe was developed by me based in part
from what I learned while conducting research for the book. My recipe
is free. I don't even collect email addresses in return for the
recipe.

IOW, while my book is doing quite well more than a decade after its
original publication, and I don't apologize for its continued success,
the recipe stands on its own.

On Jun 5, 7:10*am, "Rod" <deniecer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Scum Bag, Kelly Eidem, stop posting crap in order to sell books that were
> not written by you.

Wow, that is a new approach - you think I'm selling a book I didn't
write. ROFL!

One never knows who is sitting at the computer on the oother end, Rod.
But we've just gotten a better picture of whom you are.

>
> Cheers, rod"awthrawthr" <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec9dd@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>
> > Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
> > what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
> > planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
> > day....they kill cancer cells.
>
> > Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>
> > Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
> > tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>
> > "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>
> > On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
> > score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
> > and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>
> > Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
> > one week:
>
> >http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>
> > Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
> > listen for themselves.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It is great that anyone can write a book about his personal cure for cancer,
or hairloss. The problem is some people might be tempted to believe that it
really works, although the writer has no medical background, or worse, no
proof at all that it works.

I personally have found the perfect way to avoid prostate cancer. Find a
high rise building and jump from the top. Even better : this theory has been
proven. When comparing 300 men who jumped from a building to 300 who did
not jump, the last group had a 30 % bigger risk of having cancer. There was
also a strong correlation with the height of the building, 30 floors being
substantially better than 4 floors.

I will be doing research to see if the same rate of success applies to hair
loss and am recruiting jumper candidates.

"Andre" <patrouillie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dkrWl.14903$gk1.12817@newsfe13.ams2...

: I personally have found the perfect way to avoid prostate cancer. Find a
: high rise building and jump from the top. Even better : this theory has
been
: proven. When comparing 300 men who jumped from a building to 300 who did
: not jump, the last group had a 30 % bigger risk of having cancer. There
was
: also a strong correlation with the height of the building, 30 floors being
: substantially better than 4 floors.

You have really thought this one out. From many four-floor buildings, one
would not reach terminal velocity before hitting the sidewalk. You have to
fall about 45 feet to reach terminal velocity and even that would not assure
a prostate cure. I think 30 is a very good number.


--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA undetectable since, < 0.04 on 10/09/08
Illegitimati non carborundum

That is NOT funny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*rofl*


Nothing funny about Prostate Cancer atall.




--
"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have
hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything
else thereafter. You will meet them doing various things with resolve, but
their interest rarely holds because after the other thing ordinary life is
as flat as the taste of wine when the taste buds have been burned off your
tongue."
Hemingway.
"Mark Probert" <mark.probert@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:aca2dc40-e2cd-441c-b8e4-b9dcc367b3bf@21g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 4, 5:15 pm, kaypeeoh <kevinone...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 10:35 am, awthrawthr <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>
> > Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
> > what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
> > planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
> > day....they kill cancer cells.
>
> > Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>
> > Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
> > tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>
> > "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>
> > On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
> > score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
> > and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>
> > Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
> > one week:
>
> >http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>
> > Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
> > listen for themselves.
>
> This is the third instance I've read of someone with prostate disease
> using habaneros. But a search of medline and google scholar showed no
> papers published that show burning your lips off can cure prostate
> cancer.
>
> kpo

Depends on where your lips are.

On Jun 5, 9:34*am, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
> Amazing how your name never came up in any news article that I've seen, nor
> many details into Imus's treatment.

What is amazing is the level of denial you are willing to adopt. I
have all the email communications between myself and Deirdre Imus
including the one where she informed me that she was the author of 4
bestselling books.

It's apparent that the Imus's want to capitalize on my help. So at the
appropriate time I will send out a press release to expose their
little plan.

>
> BEWARE OF FRAUDS.
>
> "awthrawthr" <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3d45fc68-8f5d-4815-b5b9-7562c8bbad10@k2g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
>
> Don Imus is having his case overseen - OVERSEEN? - by two of the top
> urologists *- SURGEONS? - in
> the US, according to Don's own words in the audio. One is at Columbia
> University and the other is at UCLA - *I DON'T KNOW OF ANY 'TOP' UROS IN
> THESE SCHOOLS -. They are the ones who have
> conducted the tests such as the c-reacive protein and SED rates which
> are now zero, and the PSA-3 urinalysis which is moving dramatically in
> the right direction, *down from 200 to now 59. *- URNINALISYS?!?!? *AND I
> KEEP GETTING STUCK WITH A NEEDLE!!!

Your doctor apparently isn't up to speed...and neither are you. A
simple Google of psa-3 would have prevented your embarrassment. Your
lack of awareness of this urine test calls into question your
declaration that there are no top urologists at UCLA (ROFL) or
Columbia. The PSA-3 urine test is more than twice as accurate as the
old PSA blood test.

>
> In other words, the physicians are observing and charting his cure -
> my cure - instead of causing his demise. *LIES, LIES, LIES.

Just because you make an unfounded accusation doesn't make it true.
The recording is clear. You just don't like the facts as they are. But
facts are stubborn things.

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:25:54 -0400, "Steve Kramer"
<skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote:

>Imus knows less about prostate cancer than almost everyone here. Well,
>except for you.
>
>BEWARE OF FRAUDS!

Don's on the ten year plan IMO. He really doesn't have much choice
considering his health and age. Upon hearing him break the news, I
mused that his best shot would be PBRT which surprisingly he mentioned
after weeks of consultation with a battery of physicians that a guy
with his money has access to.

His major concern is a "weener warranty" as he refers to his ability
to keep his erection ability after treatment. Radiation doesn't sit
well with him and his wife's the one that is taking him down this road
that he is traveling. For his sake I hope he pulls a rabbit out of his
sac.

Honestly, I think he is in such lousy health besides the addition of
this new issue, that IMO he has nothing to lose with the hokus pokus
he's trying. It beats watchful dying in his case.

--
PSA @ 45 yrs. = 4.7 02/06/2007
Biopsy 03/16/2007 G7(3+4),T1c
RLRP 06/12/2007 G7(3+4),T2cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA 07/16/2007 = <0.1
PSA 09/12/2007 = <0.1
PSA 12/18/2007 = <0.1
PSA 03/12/2008 = <0.1
PSA 06/12/2008 = <0.1
PSA 12/12/2008 = <0.1

On Jun 5, 9:25*am, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
> Imus knows less about prostate cancer than almost everyone here. *Well,
> except for you.

That's the beauty of my recipe. One does not need to know the first
thing about prostate cancer for the recipe to do its job...as it is
doing so beautifully for Imus...as it has already done for Chuck
Kinsey.

>
> BEWARE OF FRAUDS!
>
> --"awthrawthr" <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec9dd@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> : Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:

Wow, Rod. Where did he try to sell his book on this groups?

I must have missed that. Neither did I believe he is a scum bag.

Jan

"Rod" <deniecerod1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dX7Wl.16307$y61.872@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Scum Bag, Kelly Eidem, stop posting crap in order to sell books that were
> not written by you.
>
> Cheers, rod
> "awthrawthr" <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec9dd@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>> Here is what Imus told his guest CBS newsman Bob Schieffer:
>>
>>
>> Imus: You know, I eat these habaneros peppers every day. Do you know
>> what a habaneros pepper is?...okay, it's the hottest pepper on the
>> planet...they are so hot...you know, I eat two or three of them every
>> day....they kill cancer cells.
>>
>> Shieffer: How are you doing with that?
>>
>> Imus: You know, actually the early indications are that we're making
>> tremendous progress with a completely holistic approach.
>>
>>
>> "We're making tremendous progress" - those are Imus's words.
>>
>> On his morning broadcast on Wednseday Imus revealed that his pSA-3
>> score has dropped from 200 to 59. Previously, his c-reactive protein
>> and SED rate had dropped from "extremely high" to zero.
>>
>> Here is the recording from his show which might remain archived for
>> one week:
>>
>> http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp...288&spid=22807
>>
>> Some folks have claimed I make up fictitious people. They can go
>> listen for themselves.
>>
>>
>
>

On 2009-06-06, awthrawthr <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 9:25*am, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>> Imus knows less about prostate cancer than almost everyone here. *Well,
>> except for you.
>
> That's the beauty of my recipe. One does not need to know the first
> thing about prostate cancer for the recipe to do its job...as it is
> doing so beautifully for Imus...as it has already done for Chuck
> Kinsey.
>

Even if one presupposes that "Chuck Kinsey" is cancer free, there is no
causative relation to link his intake of habaneros to his remission.
Imus is a greater fool thinking that the "results" of one individual
health outcome is statistically valid beyond the sample size of 1.

The reason that Imus would recklessly endager himself as he is, is
because he has bought into his own image as a free-wheeling, independent
cuss, and somehow believes he can extinguish the fires of cancer by his
will to do so through outrageous external means.

If he persists in avoiding the truth of his diagnosis, shunning medical
treatment, it's doubtful he will be around five years from now. And you
will bear responsibility for pointing him in a false direction. Do your
book sales mean that much to you? That you would call on someone to die,
just to have a shot at sitting alongside Oprah touting your "cure" and
misleading tens of thousands who are grasping at a way out of their
condition.

On Jun 6, 10:04*pm, Raul <r...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2009-06-06, awthrawthr <awthraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 5, 9:25*am, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
> >> Imus knows less about prostate cancer than almost everyone here. *Well,
> >> except for you.
>
> > That's the beauty of my recipe. One does not need to know the first
> > thing about prostate cancer for the recipe to do its job...as it is
> > doing so beautifully for Imus...as it has already done for Chuck
> > Kinsey.
>
> Even if one presupposes that "Chuck Kinsey" is cancer free, there is no
> causative relation to link his intake of habaneros to his remission.
> Imus is a greater fool thinking that the "results" of one individual
> health outcome is *statistically valid beyond the sample size of 1.

Each adult has the right to choose for himself which methods they want
to use. I did it and cured my Stage 4 cancer ten years ago. Jack was
told he would live 6 months with his lung cancer. At the six month
mark he became cancer free.

Chuck chose my method exclusively and his doctor responded by writing
"Wow" on the biopsy report. Now, Imus is in the process of joining our
club.

>
> The reason that Imus would recklessly endager himself as he is, is
> because he has bought into his own image as a free-wheeling, independent
> cuss, and somehow believes he can extinguish the fires of cancer by his
> will to do so through outrageous external means.
>
> If he persists in avoiding the truth of his diagnosis, shunning medical
> treatment, it's doubtful he will be around five years from now. And you
> will bear responsibility for pointing him in a false direction. Do your
> book sales mean that much to you? That you would call on someone to die,
> just to have a shot at sitting alongside Oprah touting your "cure" and
> misleading tens of thousands who are grasping at a way out of their
> condition.

It's interesting you chose the words tens of thousands, because 10,000
cancer victims die each and every week...actually more than that...and
most of them are killed by their treatments. This march to medically
caused death has been going on for about 90 years. Meanwhile, you sit
by like a drunk not noticing what is happening right in front of you.

I'm pleased that my book has been so well accepted by my readers to
the point that many order additional copies after they've read it, and
would be honored to be Oprah's guest. Revici's work was a towering
achievement and needs to be made known.

Here is the thing that really pisses you off. With Imus getting well,
it will mean the beginning of a new day for how cancer is treated.
Let's say he has a million listeners. There will be at least 100 who
will do what he has done. But more likely it will be thousands because
listeners will tell their family and friends who have cancer

And they will get well like Imus and Chuck and Jack and I got well. So
then it will spread by the thousands, and then it will spread by the
tens of thousands.

I could also see Imus appearing on TV shows talking about his success.
In a matter of weeks, tens of millions of people will know and tens of
thousands will do it and be cured. Then it will be hundreds of
thousands cured...and cancer will be looked upon in a similar way as
scurvy is now looked upon. Both are easy to cure and require little to
bring about the cure.

The thing that really ires me or should I say PISSES me off is....would you
really go the conventional route if you didnt
have any insurance to pay essentially 90-100% of the costs? hell no! next
time, itemize your costs from the conventional standpoint, and think about
it... would you pay upwards of 100k for an all inclusive conventional
treatment of rrp, rads, hormones, and surgery, plus ongoing tests only to
find out 3-6 years later that the cancer is recurring?
My solution: make the copayment for all med insurance 50%, no cap and let's
see how the medical establishment solves its problems then. Watch them find
or "discover" a more "permanent" solution to a "chronic" problem that they
have created.
But that will never happen.

On Jun 7, 1:01*pm, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...@ariplex.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 22:16:15 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >Reply-To: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>
> >From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>
> >Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.cancer,misc.health.alternative
>
> ************************************************** ***********
>
> >References: <88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <106620b0-a606-4c7f-ab53-5c095c0db...@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com><0_XVl.1 2409$im1.12...@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <h0ba3m$7c...@news.eternal-september.org>
> >In-Reply-To: <h0ba3m$7c...@news.eternal-september.org>
> >Subject: Re: Don Imus: "We're making tremendous progress"
> >Message-ID: <WpFWl.31225$Ws1.4...@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>
> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.239.92.215
> >"Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:h0ba3m$7cu$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> Please don't cross post.
>
> >I didn't. *See the original poster.
>
> That is a lie.
>
> Here is the proof:

I am the original poster of this thread. I posted to 3 highly relevant
groups:
sci.med.diseases.cancer,
misc.health.alternative, and
alt.support.cancer.prostate

If someone removed one of those three highly relevant from the list,
they have a personal agenda commonly known as censorship.

Jan's message posted to the same three groups. She did not lie. You
did.

>
> <quote>
> Reply-To: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>
> From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>
> Newsgroups:
> sci.med.diseases.cancer,misc.health.alternative,al t.support.cancer.prostate
> ************************************************** *************************
> References: <88147287-3b03-4644-a8e1-3ade7f5ec9dd@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
> <106620b0-a606-4c7f-ab53-5c095c0db...@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
> In-Reply-To: <106620b0-a606-4c7f-ab53-5c095c0dbc99@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Don Imus: "We're making tremendous progress"
> </quote>
>
> --
> * * * * * * * * * * * * *Für eine wehrhafte Medizin! * *
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * *http://wehrhafte.medizin.se

On 2009-06-07, awthrawthr <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is the thing that really pisses you off. With Imus getting well,
> it will mean the beginning of a new day for how cancer is treated.

You are so wrong here. I would be delighted beyond words if the solution
to cancer was a simple as you contend. I would love for you to be right.

I'm not about to turn my life over to an anecdotal solution. While you
talk about a handful of alledged "successes", I have to wonder how many
hundreds who have fallen prey to your webpage, have lost their lives
due to your misguidance. You remind me of my 97 year-old uncle who
credits his longevity to smoking...

"awthrawthr" <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cf9fedc1-aef4-4742-8fc8-f7ab4129ec71@z5g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 5, 9:34 am, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
> Amazing how your name never came up in any news article that I've seen,
> nor
> many details into Imus's treatment.

What is amazing is the level of denial you are willing to adopt. I
have all the email communications between myself and Deirdre Imus
including the one where she informed me that she was the author of 4
bestselling books.


==> It is not denial. I loath crooks and liars, but more so those who
would try to steer men away from life-saving or life-sustaining treatments
in order to fill their pockets.

"awthrawthr" <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cf9fedc1-aef4-4742-8fc8-f7ab4129ec71@z5g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 5, 9:34 am, "Steve Kramer" <skra...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
> Amazing how your name never came up in any news article that I've seen,
> nor
> many details into Imus's treatment.

What is amazing is the level of denial you are willing to adopt. I
have all the email communications between myself and Deirdre Imus
including the one where she informed me that she was the author of 4
bestselling books.


==> I know what! Give me Imus's email. If I verify your story, I'll tell
all on every newsgroup.

"awthrawthr" <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ba3eb268-8ec4-4901-8cc3-474959764af2@o30g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...

That's the beauty of my recipe. One does not need to know the first
thing about prostate cancer for the recipe to do its job


==> Yes, ESPECIALLY if they do not know the first thing about prostate
cancer.

"awthrawthr" <awthrawthr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f231c39f-3bd2-42ed-b127-c5be3d409690@j18g2000yql.googlegroups.com...

I did it and cured my Stage 4 cancer ten years ago.

==> Oops! You forgot. You were never diagnosed with prostate cancer. You
were diagnosed with pregnancy.

"The Man" <klugman1903@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:exPWl.31362$yr3.26013@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...

: The thing that really ires me or should I say PISSES me off is....would
you
: really go the conventional route if you didnt
: have any insurance to pay essentially 90-100% of the costs?

Yes. My insurance pays 80%. And I pay 10% toward the premiums. And, I
didn't go to the doctor for anything for the first 30 years of my coverage.
You might say, I paid 100% for my prostate cancer CONVENTIONAL route.