ED and heart problems

Hello All,

CNN had their doc do a story on erectile dysfunction and the increased
incidence of heart problems. According to the story it seems that ED is
a predictor to future heart problems by a factor of 2X. So, my question
here is, actually I don't have a question, just calling out Pandora to
the discussion.

WSF

"Felmer Dingle" <Felmer@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello All,
>
> CNN had their doc do a story on erectile dysfunction and the increased
> incidence of heart problems. According to the story it seems that ED is a
> predictor to future heart problems by a factor of 2X. So, my question here
> is, actually I don't have a question, just calling out Pandora to the
> discussion.
>
> WSF

Do you think the CNN doc meant to suggest that ED itself is a predictor of
future heart problems, or that the medical conditions often contributing to
ED, i.e., high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. are also predictive of heart
problems? I wouldn't see how ED post prostatectomy alone would affect
cardiac function negatively. Maybe so.
--
JerryW

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JerryW wrote:
> "Felmer Dingle" <Felmer@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:g0upm0$5jp$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Hello All,
>>
>> CNN had their doc do a story on erectile dysfunction and the increased
>> incidence of heart problems. According to the story it seems that ED is a
>> predictor to future heart problems by a factor of 2X. So, my question here
>> is, actually I don't have a question, just calling out Pandora to the
>> discussion.
>>
>> WSF
>
> Do you think the CNN doc meant to suggest that ED itself is a predictor of
> future heart problems, or that the medical conditions often contributing to
> ED, i.e., high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. are also predictive of heart
> problems? I wouldn't see how ED post prostatectomy alone would affect
> cardiac function negatively. Maybe so.

Even if ED itself would be a predictor, cancer treatment-induced ED may
not have the same predictive value. OTOH, ED is known to reduce sexual
activity, sexual activity is exercise and lack of exercise may create
heart problems.

On May 20, 10:10 am, Felmer Dingle <Fel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> CNN had their doc do a story on erectile dysfunction and the increased
> incidence of heart problems. According to the story it seems that ED is
> a predictor to future heart problems by a factor of 2X. So, my question
> here is, actually I don't have a question, just calling out Pandora to
> the discussion.
>
> WSF

I think we can safely conclude that ED resulting from treatment for
prostate cancer doesn't increase the risk of heart problems. Of
course, the treatment may increase such risks depending on a variety
of factors. I would guess the main factor would be reduced activity,
but one has some control of that.

"JerryW" <jerryw@seemysig.net> wrote in message
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> "Felmer Dingle" <Felmer@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:g0upm0$5jp$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Hello All,
>>
>> CNN had their doc do a story on erectile dysfunction and the increased
>> incidence of heart problems. According to the story it seems that ED is a
>> predictor to future heart problems by a factor of 2X. So, my question
>> here is, actually I don't have a question, just calling out Pandora to
>> the discussion.
>>
>> WSF
>
> Do you think the CNN doc meant to suggest that ED itself is a predictor of
> future heart problems, or that the medical conditions often contributing
> to ED, i.e., high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. are also predictive of
> heart problems? I wouldn't see how ED post prostatectomy alone would
> affect cardiac function negatively. Maybe so.
> --
> JerryW

I either heard or read a similar report. The ED referred to is the kind
present among the general population of males, not those having it as the
result of surgery.

On May 20, 9:54*am, "Claude" <cla...@hatesspam.com> wrote:
> "JerryW" <jer...@seemysig.net> wrote in message
>
> news:LxCYj.1218$ah.973@trnddc06...
>
>
>
> > "Felmer Dingle" <Fel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:g0upm0$5jp$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >> Hello All,
>
> >> CNN had their doc do a story on erectile dysfunction and the increased
> >> incidence of heart problems. According to the story it seems that ED isa
> >> predictor to future heart problems by a factor of 2X. So, my question
> >> here is, actually I don't have a question, just calling out Pandora to
> >> the discussion.
>
> >> WSF
>
> > Do you think the CNN doc meant to suggest that ED itself is a predictor of
> > future heart problems, or that the medical conditions often contributing
> > to ED, i.e., high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. are also predictive of
> > heart problems? I wouldn't see how ED post prostatectomy alone would
> > affect cardiac function negatively. Maybe so.
> > --
> > JerryW
>
> I either heard or read a similar report. *The ED referred to is the kind
> present among the general population of males, not those having it as the
> result of surgery.

Low testosterone can lead to heart problems. And ED.

Dwight wrote:
> Low testosterone can lead to heart problems. And ED.

Dwight is absolutely correct. Low T greatly increases the odds of
overall death, especially death from heart disease. Check out:
http://men.webmd.com/news/20071127/l...src=RSS_PUBLIC

Ed Friedman

"Ed Friedman" <ed@math.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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> Dwight wrote:
>> Low testosterone can lead to heart problems. And ED.
>
> Dwight is absolutely correct. Low T greatly increases the odds of overall
> death, especially death from heart disease. Check out:
> http://men.webmd.com/news/20071127/l...src=RSS_PUBLIC
>
> Ed Friedman

Kinda what I figured...related to the metabolic syndrome. I had a heart
attack last year at age 45. I was also diagnosed with diabetes that I didn't
know I had. Although I was never much overweight, about 175 at 5' 8", I was
out of shape and carried my excess weight around the middle. Curiously my
testosterone levels were normal, but I did have all the other signs,
slightly elevated blood pressure, low HDL and sky high triglycerides along
with an A1c of 7.2.

The key to my recovery was dropping 15 pounds, exercising and eating a
healthy diet much lower in carbs than I was eating before. This resulted in
normalized blood glucose (A1c's in the 5.4-5.7 range), BP of 120/80 at my
last doctor's visit and normalized cholesterol numbers. Although some things
are inevitable, the metabolic syndrome can be controlled with a little
effort and an awareness of what we put in our bodies.

I've since gone off all diabetic meds, controlling it with diet and exercise
and have cut my BP meds drastically.

Now if only my biopsy comes back negative....

John

"Ed Friedman" <ed@math.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
news:mYDYj.19$lV.2@news.uchicago.edu...
> Dwight wrote:
>> Low testosterone can lead to heart problems. And ED.
>
> Dwight is absolutely correct. Low T greatly increases the odds of overall
> death, especially death from heart disease.

Oh, great! I'm going to live to 2015, take the curative anecdote, and keel
over with a heart attack!