Hello guys

Hey all
Well, I haven't been on-line in sometime. I came on tonight and read
several posts. It's so good to see everyone still here, Steve Kramer,
I.P. Steve J. Alan Meyer, just to name a few, you guys gave me a lot
of comfort in the early days and Curtis and ya'll still do.
I had another injection of Eligard in September and psa was "less
than" .05! At the end of Dec. I'm take another
psa test and receive one more injection. I'm confident that the psa
will be down then as well.
I read a recent poster that was going to refuse treatment. Once I
felt like him. I found it just wasn't in my nature to have something
like pc just spit in my face and not expect a fight!!

I lately changed companies, got a girlfriend, relocated to Washington
state and bought a new Harley-Davidson.
In many ways, life has never been better. Oh....and a new grand-
daughter. It seems to have put a whole new meaning of living each day
just one at a time!

God Bless you guys
Dave

On Nov 29, 10:32 pm, dave481 <daave...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey all
> Well, I haven't been on-line in sometime. I came on tonight and read
> several posts. It's so good to see everyone still here, Steve Kramer,
> I.P. Steve J. Alan Meyer, just to name a few, you guys gave me a lot
> of comfort in the early days and Curtis and ya'll still do.
> I had another injection of Eligard in September and psa was "less
> than" .05! At the end of Dec. I'm take another
> psa test and receive one more injection. I'm confident that the psa
> will be down then as well.
> I read a recent poster that was going to refuse treatment. Once I
> felt like him. I found it just wasn't in my nature to have something
> like pc just spit in my face and not expect a fight!!
>
> I lately changed companies, got a girlfriend, relocated to Washington
> state and bought a new Harley-Davidson.
> In many ways, life has never been better. Oh....and a new grand-
> daughter. It seems to have put a whole new meaning of living each day
> just one at a time!
>
> God Bless you guys
> Dave

Dave, nice to read your post. I have had similar events happen since
by, going on 5 year battle, Recently had a knee replacement, started
walking and biking (no motor) and lost 30 lbs. I'm feeling great
despite. Cheers.

Rich

"dave481" <daave481@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:49f8307e-c209-42fe-bd9c-5a0a00edc166@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> Well, I haven't been on-line in sometime. I came on tonight and read
> several posts. It's so good to see everyone still here, Steve Kramer,
> I.P. Steve J. Alan Meyer, just to name a few, you guys gave me a lot
> of comfort in the early days and Curtis and ya'll still do.

Hot damn! It's good to see you, Dave.

> I had another injection of Eligard in September

I thought you had an implant.

> and psa was "less than" .05!

Fan-friggen-tastic!

> I lately changed companies, got a girlfriend, relocated to Washington

What's a cowboy do in Washington State? And how does a Texan cope with the
liberals there?

> state and bought a new Harley-Davidson.

We were just discussing how sudden death is a lot better than death by
cancer ;-)

> Oh....and a new grand-
> daughter. It seems to have put a whole new meaning of living each day
> just one at a time!

Isn't it amazing? I had no idea before becoming a grandfather how big a
deal it was.

> God Bless you guys

God bless YOU, Dave. You brought an early smile to this face.

Sounds GREAT, Dave! Congratulations! And, welcome to WA.

Re. Steve's question about coping with the liberals here -- It is
absolutely true that the state is dominated by liberals, or
ultra-liberals; but, not all of us here belong to the loony left.

I am enjoying watching a new grandchild grow, too. It's a great
experience!

Burney
(In Lakewood)

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:32:22 -0800 (PST), dave481 <daave481@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Hey all
> Well, I haven't been on-line in sometime. I came on tonight and read
>several posts. It's so good to see everyone still here, Steve Kramer,
>I.P. Steve J. Alan Meyer, just to name a few, you guys gave me a lot
>of comfort in the early days and Curtis and ya'll still do.
> I had another injection of Eligard in September and psa was "less
>than" .05! At the end of Dec. I'm take another
>psa test and receive one more injection. I'm confident that the psa
>will be down then as well.
> I read a recent poster that was going to refuse treatment. Once I
>felt like him. I found it just wasn't in my nature to have something
>like pc just spit in my face and not expect a fight!!
>
> I lately changed companies, got a girlfriend, relocated to Washington
>state and bought a new Harley-Davidson.
>In many ways, life has never been better. Oh....and a new grand-
>daughter. It seems to have put a whole new meaning of living each day
>just one at a time!
>
>God Bless you guys
>Dave
RP in 1995 (age 52)
RT in 2000
ADT (Casodex) 10/06 - 8/07

burney dot huff at mindspring dot com

Steve Kramer wrote:

> What's a cowboy do in Washington State? And how does a Texan cope with the
> liberals there?

He lives in the eastern half of the state -- a different PLANET in every
regard than the west side -- and avoids the newspapers. ;-)

I.P.

Steve Kramer wrote:

> What's a cowboy do in Washington State? And how does a Texan cope with the
> liberals there?

He lives in the eastern half of the state -- a different PLANET in every
regard than the west side -- and avoids the newspapers. ;-)

Good to hear you're doing so well. Keep it up, or, if that's not in the
cards, hang in there.

I.P.

"BH" <happy@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:6gf0l35gf3ljj80ohggte0a68tg7usva2o@4ax.com...

> Re. Steve's question about coping with the liberals here -- It is
> absolutely true that the state is dominated by liberals, or
> ultra-liberals; but, not all of us here belong to the loony left.

Yeah, I know. I've known people from east of the mountains. I think Paul's
from there, too. Maybe I.P.




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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04 10/11/07
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:01:17 -0800, "I.P. Freely"
<fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote:

>Steve Kramer wrote:
>
>> What's a cowboy do in Washington State? And how does a Texan cope with the
>> liberals there?
>
>He lives in the eastern half of the state -- a different PLANET in every
>regard than the west side -- and avoids the newspapers. ;-)
>
>I.P.

Yep, that'll work! And the result is a very nice, peaceful life.
Burney
RP in 1995 (age 52)
RT in 2000
ADT (Casodex) 10/06 - 8/07

burney dot huff at mindspring dot com

BH wrote:
> "I.P. Freely" wrote:
>
>> Steve Kramer wrote:
>>
>>> What's a cowboy do in Washington State? And how does a Texan cope with the
>>> liberals there?
>> He lives in the eastern half of the state -- a different PLANET in every
>> regard than the west side -- and avoids the newspapers. ;-)

> Yep, that'll work! And the result is a very nice, peaceful life.

It also helps that although our governor is a liberal Democrat, she
impresses many of us on both sides of the fence. I suspect the rest of
the country will know her name within a couple of national election
cycles. And not only are our roads and highways the best I've seen
anywhere in the U.S.(e.g., there are *no* potholes), they are empty,
everywhere, endless, and scenic: enjoy that Harley, Dave. (I DO hope
you're an experienced road biker!)

I.P.

"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
news:ru24j.61$fs6.51@newsfe02.lga...

> And not only are our roads and highways the best I've seen anywhere in the
> U.S.(e.g., there are *no* potholes), they are empty, everywhere, endless,
> and scenic:

I was in WA for three days, once, when my wife attended the university in
Seattle. We drove to Mt. St. Helen and back (two routes). I have to say,
your description, from what I saw, is right on the money. My brother lived
in Tacoma for awhile, and absolutely loved it.

I.P, I certainly respect your right to your opinion about our
Governor, but I think we see things quite differently. In my opinion,
she is interested ONLY in the appearance of "things" and putting a
favorable spin on anything that happens in WA, especially in the
activities of state government agencies. Reality, to her, is
irrelevent as long as it can be made to look good and promote her
chances to get re-elected. The Department of Transportation, who
presumably would be responsible for "no potholes" is the group who
told the legislature that four old ferries were in "generally good
contidion", then one month later decided (based on the same contracted
survey) that they were so dangerous that they had to be pulled from
service immediately, just prior to the Thanksgiving holiday. The
roads are generally "empty" in Eastern WA; but, here in the Puget
Sound area they are anything but empty. And, our one-party
government, currently led by Christine Gregoire, has done nothing to
try to lead our state into some solution of our transportation
problems.

If Governor Gregoire does try to get into national politics, I
sincerely hope that she has the same amount of success as her
predecessor, Gary Locke, who was promptly ignored by everyone,
including those in his own party.

After a quarter century of one-party (Democrat) control in WA, I hope
we can accomplish a real change next year. Just my opinion......

Best wishes,
Burney

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:17:07 -0800, "I.P. Freely"
<fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote:

>BH wrote:
>> "I.P. Freely" wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Kramer wrote:
>>>
>>>> What's a cowboy do in Washington State? And how does a Texan cope with the
>>>> liberals there?
>>> He lives in the eastern half of the state -- a different PLANET in every
>>> regard than the west side -- and avoids the newspapers. ;-)
>
>> Yep, that'll work! And the result is a very nice, peaceful life.
>
>It also helps that although our governor is a liberal Democrat, she
>impresses many of us on both sides of the fence. I suspect the rest of
>the country will know her name within a couple of national election
>cycles. And not only are our roads and highways the best I've seen
>anywhere in the U.S.(e.g., there are *no* potholes), they are empty,
>everywhere, endless, and scenic: enjoy that Harley, Dave. (I DO hope
>you're an experienced road biker!)
>
>I.P.
RP in 1995 (age 52)
RT in 2000
ADT (Casodex) 10/06 - 8/07

burney dot huff at mindspring dot com

BH wrote:
> I.P, I certainly respect your right to your opinion about our
> Governor, but I think we see things quite differently.

I qualified can't dispute your assessment, and didn't intend my comment
as a recommendation of her. Mine is a general impression, my wife's a
less-removed (she was a high-ranking DOE manager who worked closely with
the state) but concurring impression, but we have formed no strong
opinons yet. Now, on Murray and Cantwell, we have some very strong
opinions. And, yes, I was speaking specifically of eastern WA's
highways. I wouldn't live on the west side for anything. Ten vehicles in
one mile of the interstate highway near my home, for example, means it's
rush hour, and I very often drive a 50-mile stretch of incredibly
scenic, winding two-lane blacktop nearby at 8 mph over the speed limit
.... on cruise control the whole way. There just aren't any people out
here, relatively speaking. If Dave's out here somewhere, he's gonna love
that Harley.

I.P.

Thanks, I.P., I think we are on about the same page. I lived in
Eastern WA for several years and I agree that Dave can get tremendous
enjoyment riding on the eastern side of the "Cascade Curtain". He
should definitely attend the DeutschFest in Odessa for a fun and
peaceful biking experience.

I left state service earlier this year after working in the Olympia
area. I was more than sick of state government after that experience.
I have some strong feelings about our senators, too! My wife still
works there so we need to stay here in Lakewood for a while. We also
have family nearby. Fortunately, Lakewood is sort of an island of at
least partial sanity in a sea of loonies.

Where do you live?

Maybe we should go to email and keep conversations about our state out
of the newsgroup? Feel free to use my address.

All the best,
Burney

On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:40:50 -0800, "I.P. Freely"
<fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote:

>BH wrote:
>> I.P, I certainly respect your right to your opinion about our
>> Governor, but I think we see things quite differently.
>
>I qualified can't dispute your assessment, and didn't intend my comment
>as a recommendation of her. Mine is a general impression, my wife's a
>less-removed (she was a high-ranking DOE manager who worked closely with
>the state) but concurring impression, but we have formed no strong
>opinons yet. Now, on Murray and Cantwell, we have some very strong
>opinions. And, yes, I was speaking specifically of eastern WA's
>highways. I wouldn't live on the west side for anything. Ten vehicles in
>one mile of the interstate highway near my home, for example, means it's
>rush hour, and I very often drive a 50-mile stretch of incredibly
>scenic, winding two-lane blacktop nearby at 8 mph over the speed limit
>... on cruise control the whole way. There just aren't any people out
>here, relatively speaking. If Dave's out here somewhere, he's gonna love
>that Harley.
>
>I.P.
RP in 1995 (age 52)
RT in 2000
ADT (Casodex) 10/06 - 8/07

burney dot huff at mindspring dot com

BH wrote:

> Maybe we should go to email and keep conversations about our state out
> of the newsgroup? Feel free to use my address.

I agree, Burney, but too many problems have occurred in the past for me
to reveal my address and thus my identity. Paranoid? Yes, but from
experience, not baseless phobia. I just don't have the time to deal with
Internet attack dogs again (not referring to you, of course), so have to
guard my identity carefully across the board. My wife added that if that
starts up again she'd put her foot down ... through my screen.

I WILL add that our lovely Sen. Cantwell just introduced the Climate
Change Adaptation Act of 2007, which, if it passes Congressional and
administrative muster, could cost everyone here significant money and
maybe some personal freedoms while accomplishing nothing. It is
unadulterated, misinformed political BS and will affect federal, state,
and community government manpower and budgets from Washington, D.C. to
Nageezi, NM. (If you and I could stop it, I'd e-mail you in a heartbeat.)

Welcome to La La Land, Dave. Enjoy that bike now, before the internal
combustion engine is banned by idiots.

I.P.

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:52:02 -0800, "I.P. Freely"
<fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote:

>BH wrote:
>
>> Maybe we should go to email and keep conversations about our state out
>> of the newsgroup? Feel free to use my address.
>
>I agree, Burney, but too many problems have occurred in the past for me
>to reveal my address and thus my identity.

No problem. I'm sorry to hear you've had such bad experiences in the
past. And, SWMBO must also be kept happy!
>
>I WILL add that our lovely Sen. Cantwell just introduced ...

All Senator Cantthink and her bosom buddy Patty Murray know is to
propose hairbrained legislation to throw more money or regulation or,
usually, both at anything they perceive to be a problem. And, until
the rest of the state finds some way to override the King County
liberals, I guess we'll be stuck with them.
>
>Welcome to La La Land, Dave. Enjoy that bike now, before the internal
>combustion engine is banned by idiots.
>
I think there are enough clear thinking people in E. WA to tolerate
reasonable behavior regardless of what our goofy politicians do. Stay
on the eastern side of the Cascade Curtain. That's where the good
riding is, anyway. Keep riding and keep the rubber on the bottom!

Speaking of goofy politicians, I've been wondering how all the
flooded-out people in the SW part of our state have felt about having
the governor fly over (with the media in dutiful tow, of course)
checking them out on a daily basis.

Take care,
Burney

>I.P.
RP in 1995 (age 52)
RT in 2000
ADT (Casodex) 10/06 - 8/07

burney dot huff at mindspring dot com

On Dec 7, 2:52 pm, "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddabou...@noway.nohow> wrote:
> BH wrote:
> > Maybe we should go to email and keep conversations about our state out
> > of the newsgroup? Feel free to use my address.
>
> I agree, Burney, but too many problems have occurred in the past for me
> to reveal my address and thus my identity. Paranoid? Yes, but from
> experience, not baseless phobia. I just don't have the time to deal with
> Internet attack dogs again (not referring to you, of course), so have to
> guard my identity carefully across the board. My wife added that if that
> starts up again she'd put her foot down ... through my screen.
>
> I WILL add that our lovely Sen. Cantwell just introduced the Climate
> Change Adaptation Act of 2007, which, if it passes Congressional and
> administrative muster, could cost everyone here significant money and
> maybe some personal freedoms while accomplishing nothing. It is
> unadulterated, misinformed political BS and will affect federal, state,
> and community government manpower and budgets from Washington, D.C. to
> Nageezi, NM. (If you and I could stop it, I'd e-mail you in a heartbeat.)
>
> Welcome to La La Land, Dave. Enjoy that bike now, before the internal
> combustion engine is banned by idiots.
>
> I.P.

Hey IP! and all that replied.
Boy Steve did you ever get a discussion started. True enough, the
eastern side of Washington is pretty closae to paradise for me, that
is...in ways of lifestyle, people, etc..etc.... There are many great
ranches, cowgirls, cowboys rodeos, Pendleton is close and remember I'm
a cowboy at heart....But LOVE that Harley and the places to ride!!! It
(the Harley) is called a "street bob". Riders around here call me "The
Cowboy Bobber". Been loving it!! I will say that my Texas background
of "horses, Harleys and guitars; pick-ups, Peterbilts and pretty
girls"(for some reason that group doesn't have many liberals?? )
really are good qualifications. Even if life turns out to be short....
Lord it's been GRAND!!

Later Guys!!
I pray for low PSA's, lots of erections and little or no back pain for
all

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

David

dave481 wrote:

> Hey IP! and all that replied.
> Boy Steve did you ever get a discussion started. True enough, the
> eastern side of Washington is pretty closae to paradise for me, that
> is...in ways of lifestyle, people, etc..etc.... There are many great
> ranches, cowgirls, cowboys rodeos, Pendleton is close and remember I'm
> a cowboy at heart....But LOVE that Harley and the places to ride!!! It
> (the Harley) is called a "street bob". Riders around here call me "The
> Cowboy Bobber". Been loving it!! I will say that my Texas background
> of "horses, Harleys and guitars; pick-ups, Peterbilts and pretty
> girls"(for some reason that group doesn't have many liberals?? )
> really are good qualifications. Even if life turns out to be short....
> Lord it's been GRAND!!
>
> Later Guys!!
> I pray for low PSA's, lots of erections and little or no back pain for
> all
>
> MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

Merry Christmas to you and everyone else, too. Sounds like you picked a
great place to relocate to. I'm sure that by now you've found the
Palouse area of SE WA, which is full of twisting, winding, smooth,
scenic two-lane "highways" that look line fine bike territory. If you're
inclined to ignore speed limits, those roads far outnumber the cops and
that first ticket can be erased if you stay low and slow for the next 12
months. *OTOH*, there are a lot of deer out there. Notice that the tiny
little burgs of that region are becoming meccas for four-star chefs
tired of Seattle or New York, who are opening up great restaurants in
towns the size of a respectable mall where they came from.

The downside? Winter. The west side sends us its marine weather from
Nov-Mar, so it's wet and overcast much of the time. That's when I miss
the high, dry, sunny desert SW U.S. the most.

I.P.