Louis Farrakhan's PCa

I saw this on the CNN page today, and thought some of you might be
interested. Apparently, Mr. Farrakhan is battling prostate cancer.
You can read the entire article by Don Lemon at:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/09/btsc.lemon/index.html

One of the troubling things in the article was this:

"He also talked about his battle with prostate cancer over the last
several years. He'd tried to fight it holistically, and had had
irradiated seeds implanted into his body to kill the cancer. But the
seeds had burned holes into some of his vital body parts.

He recounted the horrific day he almost bled to death in his bathroom,
losing four units of blood in his home and then in the ambulance en
route to the emergency room. There, he says, doctors told him that if
he didn't have traditional surgery to remove the cancer and repair the
damage from the irradiated seeds, that he would "surely die."

He had the operation and survived. And, at 73, he's still going. But
he also says when you reach his age, you're always "concerned about
your mortality."

Has anyone heard of this type of outcome from seeds before? I've
heard accounts of folks who have had trouble, but nothing like this.

And the reference to the surgery following radiation was puzzling,
too. I'm guessing that the reporter just got it wrong.

--charlie

chasjac wrote:

> I saw this on the CNN page today, and thought some of you might be
> interested. Apparently, Mr. Farrakhan is battling prostate cancer.
> You can read the entire article by Don Lemon at:
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/09/btsc.lemon/index.html
>
> One of the troubling things in the article was this:
>
> "He also talked about his battle with prostate cancer over the last
> several years. He'd tried to fight it holistically, and had had
> irradiated seeds implanted into his body to kill the cancer. But the
> seeds had burned holes into some of his vital body parts.
>
> He recounted the horrific day he almost bled to death in his bathroom,
> losing four units of blood in his home and then in the ambulance en
> route to the emergency room. There, he says, doctors told him that if
> he didn't have traditional surgery to remove the cancer and repair the
> damage from the irradiated seeds, that he would "surely die."
>
> He had the operation and survived. And, at 73, he's still going. But
> he also says when you reach his age, you're always "concerned about
> your mortality."
>
> Has anyone heard of this type of outcome from seeds before? I've
> heard accounts of folks who have had trouble, but nothing like this.
>
> And the reference to the surgery following radiation was puzzling,
> too. I'm guessing that the reporter just got it wrong.
>
> --charlie

Stories vary
J
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249021,00.html
Farrakhan, 73, had been hospitalized Jan. 5 to undergo a 12-hour abdominal
operation designed to correct damage caused by treatment for prostate
cancer, according to the Nation of Islam.

He was released Sunday, according to the black American Muslim group,
which has declined to reveal where he was hospitalized. He had prostate
cancer surgery in 2000.

The Detroit appearance may be Farrakhan's last major public address,
according to Tuesday's statement, in which Ishmael Muhammad said Farrakhan
"doesn't see himself coming before the public on such a major stage as we
are preparing in Detroit."

But the statement was qualified, saying Farrakhan may honor lesser
engagements.

Farrakhan is to continue his recuperation at home, according to the
statement, which did not specify whether he would be at his home in
Chicago or the farm he owns in southwestern Michigan's Berrien County,
about 190 miles west of Detroit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrakhan
Farrakhan announced that he is seriously ill in a September 11, 2006
letter to his staff, Nation of Islam members and supporters. The letter,
published on September 11, 2006 in The Final Call newspaper, said that
doctors in Cuba discovered an ulcer. According to the letter, subsequent
infections caused Farrakhan to lose 35 pounds. He urged the Nation of
Islam leadership to carry on while he recovers. [5]

Making his first public comments since his September 11 announcement of
his ill health, Farrakhan called in to Rev. Jesse Jackson's weekly
Rainbow/PUSH address on Saturday, October 21 and thanked the audience for
their wishes for his speedy recovery. In his comments that were also
carried live on Chicago's WVON radio station and various national cable
stations, Farrakhan said, "Let me thank God because he has blessed me to
be alive. I have good days and bad days. I am honored to have this moment
and give thanks to all of you. You cannot imagine how all of you have
uplifted my spirit."

Rev. Jackson said it was important for his audience to hear directly from
Farrakhan to dispel rumors that the longtime leader of the Nation of Islam
was near death. [6]. On January 06, 2007 a statement was released that
Farrakhan had undergone a 12 hour operation. The nature of the surgery was
not revealed. But doctors told Farrakhan's family that they are pleased
with the operation's outcome

http://www.noi.org/mlfbio.htm
Marking a new milestone in a life that has been devoted to the uplift of
humanity, Minister Farrakhan launched a prostate cancer foundation in
his name May 10-11, 2003. First diagnosed in 1991 with prostate cancer, he
survived a public bout and endured critical complications after treatment
that brought him 180 seconds away from death.

chasjac wrote:
> I saw this on the CNN page today, and thought some of you might be
> interested. Apparently, Mr. Farrakhan is battling prostate cancer.
> You can read the entire article by Don Lemon at:
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/09/btsc.lemon/index.html
>
> One of the troubling things in the article was this:
>
> "He also talked about his battle with prostate cancer over the last
> several years. He'd tried to fight it holistically, and had had
> irradiated seeds implanted into his body to kill the cancer. But the
> seeds had burned holes into some of his vital body parts.
>
> He recounted the horrific day he almost bled to death in his bathroom,
> losing four units of blood in his home and then in the ambulance en
> route to the emergency room. There, he says, doctors told him that if
> he didn't have traditional surgery to remove the cancer and repair the
> damage from the irradiated seeds, that he would "surely die."
>
> He had the operation and survived. And, at 73, he's still going. But
> he also says when you reach his age, you're always "concerned about
> your mortality."
>
> Has anyone heard of this type of outcome from seeds before? I've
> heard accounts of folks who have had trouble, but nothing like this.

My guess is radiation from his Mother Ship. ;-(

I.P.

"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
news:wzDIh.32$Qj6.26@newsfe03.lga...
>
> My guess is radiation from his Mother Ship. ;-(
>

I was thinking something along those lines too.

Farrakhan and his associates have dipped so deeply into
the pool of irrationality that it's hard to credit anything they
say. I'm not accusing him of lying so much as not really
understanding what happened to him. The CNN reporter
doesn't seem to know any better either.

Alan

He recounted the horrific day he almost bled to death in his bathroom,
losing four units of blood in his home

=====> just curious - how do you lose 4 units of blood and still live?

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc

On 10 Mar 2007 06:40:33 -0800, "chasjac" <chjacobson@elmira.edu>
wrote:

>I saw this on the CNN page today, and thought some of you might be
>interested. Apparently, Mr. Farrakhan is battling prostate cancer.
>You can read the entire article by Don Lemon at:
>
>http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/09/btsc.lemon/index.html
>
>One of the troubling things in the article was this:
>
>"He also talked about his battle with prostate cancer over the last
>several years. He'd tried to fight it holistically, and had had
>irradiated seeds implanted into his body to kill the cancer. But the
>seeds had burned holes into some of his vital body parts.
>
>He recounted the horrific day he almost bled to death in his bathroom,
>losing four units of blood in his home and then in the ambulance en
>route to the emergency room. There, he says, doctors told him that if
>he didn't have traditional surgery to remove the cancer and repair the
>damage from the irradiated seeds, that he would "surely die."
>
>He had the operation and survived. And, at 73, he's still going. But
>he also says when you reach his age, you're always "concerned about
>your mortality."
>
>Has anyone heard of this type of outcome from seeds before? I've
>heard accounts of folks who have had trouble, but nothing like this.
>
>And the reference to the surgery following radiation was puzzling,
>too. I'm guessing that the reporter just got it wrong.
>
>--charlie

My Dad has the seeds and he has always told me that surgery isn't an
option after you get them. Is this true?

On Mar 10, 7:17 pm, Paul wrote:
> On 10 Mar 2007 06:40:33 -0800, "chasjac" <chjacob...@elmira.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >I saw this on the CNN page today, and thought some of you might be
> >interested. Apparently, Mr. Farrakhan is battling prostate cancer.
> >You can read the entire article by Don Lemon at:
>
> >http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/09/btsc.lemon/index.html
>
> >One of the troubling things in the article was this:
>
> >"He also talked about his battle with prostate cancer over the last
> >several years. He'd tried to fight it holistically, and had had
> >irradiated seeds implanted into his body to kill the cancer. But the
> >seeds had burned holes into some of his vital body parts.
>
> >He recounted the horrific day he almost bled to death in his bathroom,
> >losing four units of blood in his home and then in the ambulance en
> >route to the emergency room. There, he says, doctors told him that if
> >he didn't have traditional surgery to remove the cancer and repair the
> >damage from the irradiated seeds, that he would "surely die."
>
> >He had the operation and survived. And, at 73, he's still going. But
> >he also says when you reach his age, you're always "concerned about
> >your mortality."
>
> >Has anyone heard of this type of outcome from seeds before? I've
> >heard accounts of folks who have had trouble, but nothing like this.
>
> >And the reference to the surgery following radiation was puzzling,
> >too. I'm guessing that the reporter just got it wrong.
>
> >--charlie
>
> My Dad has the seeds and he has always told me that surgery isn't an
> option after you get them. Is this true?

Its actually possible but most surgeons won't do it.

In his book, Dattoli says that salvage options for failed
brachytherapy
are re-seeding, surgery, cryotherapy, hormonal therapy and
watchful waiting.

---
The Palpable Prostate
http://palpable-prostate.blogspot.com

"chasjac" <chjacobson@elmira.edu> wrote in message
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>I saw this on the CNN page today, and thought some of you might be
> interested. Apparently, Mr. Farrakhan is battling prostate cancer.
> You can read the entire article by Don Lemon at:
>


Who says there's no justice in this world?

--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

glassman wrote:

> Who says there's no justice in this world?

That thought occurred to me re Michael Milliken, too.

I.P.

"c palmer" <PALMER_ENT@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> He recounted the horrific day he almost bled to death in his bathroom,
> losing four units of blood in his home
>
> =====> just curious - how do you lose 4 units of blood and still live?

And how do you count units of blood if it is not draining into a measuring
device?

During one of my mother's surgeries, she lost quite a bit of blood. I think
it was 4 units. But, they were pumping it in as fast as she was losing it.
Then, they pumped in a 5th. Then the next day, a 6th. Perhaps, they were
counting blood transfused.

<Paul> wrote in message news:9ii6v2drgtu65v9momjmleeqniaopbm1se@4ax.com...
> On 10 Mar 2007 06:40:33 -0800, "chasjac" <chjacobson@elmira.edu>
> wrote:
>


> My Dad has the seeds and he has always told me that surgery isn't an
> option after you get them. Is this true?


That is virtually true. There may be the odd surgeon that will try it, but
I don't think anyone recommends it.




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On Mar 10, 8:17 pm, Paul wrote:

> My Dad has the seeds and he has always told me that surgery isn't an
> option after you get them. Is this true?

One of the reasons seeds fail is that the cancer had already spread
before treatment began. If this happened, then surgery wouldn't do
much good anyway.

By the way, how's your dad doing?

--charlie