new numbers for Steve K

Hi Steve,

It is with much relief that I can report a new number of 0.5, still on
Lupron and Casodex, and still having a great time living the good life
as a retired man. The increase from the previous .4 to the current .5
took place in the one month after the date of the .4 reading so I was
very concerned about where this was going, but it could be the rounding
off that made the change too. Now, four months after the .4, I have
gone to .5 and it sure looked like it was going to be a lot worse than
that. In any event, I am still trying to parallel your track records of
reading vs treatments etc. Keep up the good work and the good numbers Steve.
Due to summer activities on the water and in the woods and in the yard
and garden, I do not get to look at the posts too often but always look
to see how your numbers are doing, see what kh has to say and follow his
battle, and hunt down what new posts have been made by Alan, Heather,
I.P., and a few others. This newsgroup has been a blessing for me, I get
a lot of comfort in hearing from other men (and their ladies) as we all
fight our battles. It's great to see that the numbers of old timers on
the site has not gone down in recent months, but it's sad to see all the
new faces.
Now, back to living an active life while the sun still shines.

"Bob C." <BC@Bob.org> wrote in message
news:g4g0ih025lc@enews5.newsguy.com...
> Hi Steve,
>
> It is with much relief that I can report a new number of 0.5,

Did you mean 0.05?

> still on Lupron and Casodex, and still having a great time living the good
> life as a retired man.

These words are more important than you know, Bob. There are a lot of
people scared to death to do ADT for fear their life would be untenably
altered.

> In any event, I am still trying to parallel your track records of reading
> vs treatments etc. Keep up the good work and the good numbers Steve.

Thank you, sir.



--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 2/12/08
Illegitimati non carborundum

Steve Kramer wrote:
> "Bob C." <BC@Bob.org> wrote in message
> news:g4g0ih025lc@enews5.newsguy.com...
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> It is with much relief that I can report a new number of 0.5,
>
> Did you mean 0.05?
>
>> still on Lupron and Casodex, and still having a great time living the good
>> life as a retired man.
>
> These words are more important than you know, Bob. There are a lot of
> people scared to death to do ADT for fear their life would be untenably
> altered.
>
>> In any event, I am still trying to parallel your track records of reading
>> vs treatments etc. Keep up the good work and the good numbers Steve.
>
> Thank you, sir.
>
>
>

Bob Chady wrote:
>
>
> "Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:<g4i2lp$h2v$1@registered.motzarella.org>...
>> "Bob C." <BC@Bob.org> wrote in message
>> news:g4g0ih025lc@enews5.newsguy.com...
>> > Hi Steve,
>> >
>> > It is with much relief that I can report a new number of 0.5,
>>
>> Did you mean 0.05?
> Dang, I sure wish it was .05 but no, it is as stated, 0.5. I am happy
> with that as the increase from the previous 0.4 took place in one month
> and now it is still at 0.5, no further increase. Rounding off may have
> accounted for the initial increase, but no matter, the current
> relatively stable number is what I am happy about.
>>
>> > still on Lupron and Casodex, and still having a great time living
>> the good > life as a retired man.
>>
>> These words are more important than you know, Bob. There are a lot of
>> people scared to death to do ADT for fear their life would be
>> untenably altered.
> Initially I thought ADT would be the end of life as me, as a man, as
> Bob, and it was with great reluctance that I went on it the first time.
> And yes, there have been changes and yes some of the side effects cause
> problems from time to time, but it's not the end of the road and going
> without the ADT would possibly be the end of the road.
>
> A year on ADT was enough, I thought, let me get back to normal now
> and I went off of it until the psa began to rise fast after about a
> year. I went back on ADT and at least was not surprised by any of the
> SE's this time. And hey, I was still alive and having a good life.
>
> Then, while still on ADT, Lupron only, my psa began to rise, and
> fast. Dang, now comes the bad stuff, now we are in for it. Two doctors
> said that in my case it was not likely that Casodex was going to help,
> but there was time so we'd give it a try. My fast rising psa dropped a
> lot and is possibly stable at this point in time. The dreaded side
> effects??? I guess I am too busy having a good life to have been
> bothered too much by them, too much stuff to do and not enough time to
> do it all!!! I take more naps, get a lot more sleep than before, but am
> busy and active and doing the things I want to do with each day. Lots
> of family activities and grandkids activities, lots of time in the woods
> making firewood and trails, lots of garden and yard work, and a bit of
> wading and fishing the river and so on, you get the idea. Not enough
> hours in the day to do it all, but it's fun trying!!!
>
> I look at kh and see where he is now and the side effects he has
> make ours look like nothing, but he sure does not sit back and take a
> woe is me attitude on life, he still lives it. It almost seems like one
> of his current joys in life is the fight for his life, if that is
> possible. If the beast gets him someday, it sure won't be because he sat
> there and let it happen. I find a lot of comfort in being on his team,
> fighting the same foe, and watching for advances in ways to fight our
> fights, new technology.
>
> To anyone facing going on ADT, all I can say is research the living
> daylights out of it, find out what the benefits MAY be and what the side
> effects MAY be, and make an educated decision. I think that fear is the
> biggest pre-ADT side effect, but educate yourself and do what you have
> to do with open eyes. And no matter which way you go, life is too darn
> good and too darn short to live it in fear of what may lie ahead. It's
> like my wife waiting for that dentist appointment, that event off in
> the future can ruin today for her. ADT is not the end of the world,
> not for me anyhow. I am still me, and am maybe living a fuller life
> than before in spite of cancer, in spite of ADT, and in spite of
> whatever the future may hold for me.
>
> Catch ya later Steve, have stuff to do, places to go today!!!!
>>
>> > In any event, I am still trying to parallel your track records of
>> reading > vs treatments etc. Keep up the good work and the good
>> numbers Steve.
>>
>> Thank you, sir.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
>> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
>> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
>> PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
>> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
>> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
>> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
>> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
>> Casodex added daily 07/06
>> PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 2/12/08
>> Illegitimati non carborundum
>>
>

"Bob C." <BC@Bob.org> wrote in message news:4872452E.6080907@Bob.org...

> >> Did you mean 0.05?

> > Dang, I sure wish it was .05 but no, it is as stated, 0.5. I am happy
> > with that as the increase from the previous 0.4 took place in one month
> > and now it is still at 0.5, no further increase.

Yes, it is good news. I just got a little screwed up in your earlier report
of 0.4.

> > I guess I am too busy having a good life to have been
> > bothered too much by them, too much stuff to do and not enough time to
> > do it all!!!

Words to live by.... literally!


--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 2/12/08
Illegitimati non carborundum

On Jul 7, 12:32*pm, "Bob C." <B...@Bob.org> wrote:
> Steve Kramer wrote:

> *> If the beast gets him someday, it sure won't be because he sat
> *> there and let it happen. *I find a lot of comfort in being on his team,
> *> fighting the same foe, *and watching for advances in ways to fightour
> *> fights, new technology.

Hey, everyone needs a hobby and chasing blondes seems to be out for a
while.

I figure WE have a good chance of seeing a silver bullet cure. We
just gotta hang on long enough.

The death of Hugh Kearnley was hard, hard. Shocked me. It tells me
to pay attention to other health issues too.

The S.O.B. tried to get me twice. I'm not giving it a third
chance.

-kh in the 3rd week of the 3rd taxotere-CNTO(328) cycle.