PSA

PSA is undetectable.

T is 60 (down from 67 a year ago)

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA undetectable since, last checked 06/04/09
Illegitimati non carborundum

On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:19:56 -0400, Steve Kramer wrote:

> PSA is undetectable.
>
> T is 60 (down from 67 a year ago)

AWESOME Steve!!

Vince

--
PSA 4.73 07/2000 @ 48
Biopsy 07/2000 G7 (3+4)
RRP 09/2000 @ 49 G7 (3+4), T2b Neg margins
PSA < 0.1 for 14 months post op
PSA .8 .8 .6 .8 04/2008 thru 12/2008
IMRT 02/2009 - 04/2009, 38 treatments, 60.8 Gy total
PSA .02 05/18/09

On June 10, Steve K wrote:

> PSA is undetectable.

Sounds good. What is the number?

> T is 60 (down from 67 a year ago)

I hope it descends further to a castrate <20 ng/dL.

Regards,

Steve J

"When dealing with malignant conditions you do not save your weaponry
until you are surrounded by the enemy."

--Stephen B. Strum, MD
Medical Oncologist
PCa Specialist

Great to hear, Steve.

Heather

"Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h0p4hg$6ct$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> PSA is undetectable.
>
> T is 60 (down from 67 a year ago)
>
> --
> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
> PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
> Casodex added daily 07/06
> PSA undetectable since, last checked 06/04/09
> Illegitimati non carborundum
>
>

In article <h0p4hg$6ct$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote:

> PSA is undetectable.
>
> T is 60 (down from 67 a year ago)

PSA undetectable is always nice to hear.

All the best Steve!!

Dale J.
--
Email: dalej2@mac.com

Six years already.

"Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h0p4hg$6ct$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> PSA is undetectable.
>
> T is 60 (down from 67 a year ago)
>
> --
> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
> PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
> Casodex added daily 07/06
> PSA undetectable since, last checked 06/04/09
> Illegitimati non carborundum
>

That's great, Steve.
--
JerryW

Please respond to group; email address is not valid

2/11/04 PSA 2.6, Suspicious DRE (age 62)
2/23/04 Biopsy: Gleason 3+4=7, T2a, left lobe
5/18/04 RRP, Path: Gleason 4+3=7, T2c, both lobes
Fully continent by 9/04
PSA through 4/22/08: <0.1
PSA 10/22/08: 0.1
PSA 1/19/09: 0.2
PSA 3/31/09: 0.2
SRT (39 txs) begun 4/9/09

Steve;

Congraduations that is great. We like those numbers.

Steve B
AKA the evil steve



Steve Kramer wrote:
> PSA is undetectable.
>
> T is 60 (down from 67 a year ago)
>

--
Steve B
Date of Birth 12-1950 Dx date 2-2007:CS=T4N1Mb,
age57:1st measured PSA 1.6, 5-2004:PSA at DX 9.6 , gleason
9, psa doubling time at Dx 3.5 mo: Treatment PSolve |
Searching for a cure for androgen independent PCa | Last
measured PSA 6 6-15-2009 after ADT failure, last psa
doubling time negative months | T<20
Estimated survival time <2 years. Planned lifespan over 90.

This disease sucks...

Congrats!

-Rick

On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:19:56 -0400, "Steve Kramer"
<skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote:

>PSA is undetectable.
>
>T is 60 (down from 67 a year ago)

Well done!

I seem to remember the T conversion ratio from ISO to US was ~28.8

So my T's about 14.0 (ISO), which would make me about 400 US.

-Please reply to group as my email addr is fake!

-Regards CC

On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:19:56 -0400, "Steve Kramer"
<skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote:

>PSA is undetectable.

Great news, Steve! That must be a great relief.

"Steve Jordan" <mycroftscj1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:l8VXl.21703$IP7.16601@newsfe23.iad...
: On June 10, Steve K wrote:
:
: > PSA is undetectable.
:
: Sounds good. What is the number?

Standard assay with a result of <0.10. I did not post the number because I
didn't want to muddle the issue of seven "less than" scores with clinical
definitions of "undetectable." I should have known you'd catch me. :-)

Since starting ADT2 during July 2006, Quest labs have used multiple assays
and reported my PSAs as <0.04, <0.0 5, <0.04, <0.04, <0.10, <0.04, and now
<0.10. I get the feeling that when a specific assay is not requested, they
pull out whatever they have in the box closest to them.

As you know, when using multiple assays, the "less than" symbol is the key
element. Also as you know, I am not convinced it does anyone any good to
know what is going on in the static below one-tenth of a nanogram (millionth
of a gram). I am content with my scores, which indicate the little bastards
have been killed and/or kept dormant from July 2006 to at least February
2010 when I get my next PSA test.

: > T is 60 (down from 67 a year ago)
:
: I hope it descends further to a castrate <20 ng/dL.

Yes, that would be nice, but based on my PSAs during 2006, I suspect my T
went up during three years of ADT1 and that prompted the need for ADT2. I
am surprised that my T went down this year considering I first started
Lupron in July 2003. But, then, I do not pretend to know all the
physiological and pharmacological details of testosterone, Lupron, or
Casodex. I welcome any facts and opinions.

I guess it's time to repeat my pharmaceutical and nuetraceutical intake:

Generic / Ingredients
Daily unless indicated

Alendronate Sodium
70 mg / wk

Bicalumide
50 mg

Calcium
210 mg

Capsicum frutescens
100,000 to 200,000 SHU

Green Tea Extract (Camellia sinensis)
2000 mg

Leuprolide acetate
30 mg / 4 mos

Lycopene
10 mg

Natural Fish Oil Concentrate EPA and DHA
1000 mg

Selenium
105 mcg

Vitamin C (Absorbic Acid)
1000 mg

Vitamin D
400 IU

Vitamin D-3
2000 IU

Vitamin E (d-alpha Tocopherol)
333 IU




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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA undetectable since; last checked on 06/04/09
Illegitimati non carborundum

Evil Steve,

I note a recent PSA of 6 in your signature. Was that May 15? Or earlier
this month?


"Steve B" <sberger14@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4a305b79$0$22532$607ed4bc@cv.net...

: Date of Birth 12-1950 Dx date 2-2007:CS=T4N1Mb,
: age57:1st measured PSA 1.6, 5-2004:PSA at DX 9.6 , gleason
: 9, psa doubling time at Dx 3.5 mo: Treatment PSolve |
: Searching for a cure for androgen independent PCa | Last
: measured PSA 6 6-15-2009 after ADT failure, last psa
: doubling time negative months | T<20
: Estimated survival time <2 years. Planned lifespan over 90.



--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA undetectable since; last checked on 06/04/09
Illegitimati non carborundum

"Clarence Crow" <crow@perch.biz> wrote in message
news:njq0351ju2dffan1dp6tk8vo2m18lt8vs7@4ax.com...
: On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:19:56 -0400, "Steve Kramer"
: <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote:


: I seem to remember the T conversion ratio from ISO to US was ~28.8
:
: So my T's about 14.0 (ISO), which would make me about 400 US.


But you are not currently on Lupron (Lucrin AU), are you?

--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA undetectable since; last checked on 06/04/09
Illegitimati non carborundum

<rosbif> wrote in message news:ba41351gt0chcsklc12dlup8vs84tsn3nr@4ax.com...
: On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:19:56 -0400, "Steve Kramer"
: <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
:
: >PSA is undetectable.
:
: Great news, Steve! That must be a great relief.
:

It was nice to hear, but I honestly had forgotten about it after Saturday or
Sunday. However, for my wife, it was a great relief -- or so she said.

Fantastic news Steve!! Yay!!

Jean


"Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h0p4hg$6ct$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> PSA is undetectable.
>
> T is 60 (down from 67 a year ago)
>
> --
> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
> PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
> Casodex added daily 07/06
> PSA undetectable since, last checked 06/04/09
> Illegitimati non carborundum
>
>

Steve Kramer wrote:
> <rosbif> wrote in message news:ba41351gt0chcsklc12dlup8vs84tsn3nr@4ax.com...
> : On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:19:56 -0400, "Steve Kramer"
> : <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
> :
> : >PSA is undetectable.
> :
> : Great news, Steve! That must be a great relief.
> :
>
> It was nice to hear, but I honestly had forgotten about it after Saturday or
> Sunday. However, for my wife, it was a great relief -- or so she said.

Wonderful news and if you are anything like Kevin, it was a huge relief
for your wife!!

sue - waiting for next week

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:57:43 -0400, "Steve Kramer"
<skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote:

>"Clarence Crow" <crow@perch.biz> wrote in message
>news:njq0351ju2dffan1dp6tk8vo2m18lt8vs7@4ax.com.. .
>: On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:19:56 -0400, "Steve Kramer"
>: <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>: I seem to remember the T conversion ratio from ISO to US was ~28.8
>:
>: So my T's about 14.0 (ISO), which would make me about 400 US.
>
>
>But you are not currently on Lupron (Lucrin AU), are you?

Been off all ADT for years now. Had initial PSA 'bounce' to about 0.24
and T was lower. (you have the data LOL)

-Please reply to group as my email addr is fake!

-Regards CC

"Clarence Crow" <crow@perch.biz> wrote in message
news:6aj335tmj4iejb43o589l2356dfaipn2iv@4ax.com...

: >: So my T's about 14.0 (ISO), which would make me about 400 US.
: >
: >
: >But you are not currently on Lupron (Lucrin AU), are you?
:
: Been off all ADT for years now. Had initial PSA 'bounce' to about 0.24
: and T was lower. (you have the data LOL)

My point is that for a 73 year old man (and 11 months) not on ADT, a 14 (403
US) T level is pretty damned good. Of course, I don't know how that stacks
up against the typical Aussie. ;-)


--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA undetectable since; last checked on 06/04/09
Illegitimati non carborundum