Roadrunner ending Usenet Service

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I have just found that RR will no longer offer Usenet service.


I really don't want to register with Yahoo, because, as you can see,
my email address appears. Road runner has suggested some commercial
services that would charge me, but are there any free ones out there?
If so, how do I get there and register? Thanks for your help.

Claude

cpeters9@rochester.rr.com wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
>
> I have just found that RR will no longer offer Usenet service.
>
>
> I really don't want to register with Yahoo, because, as you can see,
> my email address appears. Road runner has suggested some commercial
> services that would charge me, but are there any free ones out there?
> If so, how do I get there and register? Thanks for your help.

Don't all the major ISPs provide USENET at no extra cost?

I.P.

"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
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> cpeters9@rochester.rr.com wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>>
>> I have just found that RR will no longer offer Usenet service.
>>
>>
>> I really don't want to register with Yahoo, because, as you can see,
>> my email address appears. Road runner has suggested some commercial
>> services that would charge me, but are there any free ones out there?
>> If so, how do I get there and register? Thanks for your help.
>
> Don't all the major ISPs provide USENET at no extra cost?
>
> I.P.

Time Warner, Verizon, and Sprint no longer do. I found Motzarella through
reading Steve's information via Heather.

"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
news:vKX7k.47$SH5.5@newsfe06.lga...
> cpeters9@rochester.rr.com wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>>
>> I have just found that RR will no longer offer Usenet service.
>>
>>
>> I really don't want to register with Yahoo, because, as you can
>> see,
>> my email address appears. Road runner has suggested some commercial
>> services that would charge me, but are there any free ones out there?
>> If so, how do I get there and register? Thanks for your help.
>
> Don't all the major ISPs provide USENET at no extra cost?
>
No.....they are getting rid of them because they say they are losing
money on them. Most of the commercial ones are about $10/month. They
also say that the 21st Century mode is via blogging and forums, etc.
BS.

HF

Heather wrote:
>
> No.....they are getting rid of them because they say they are losing
> money on them. Most of the commercial ones are about $10/month. They
> also say that the 21st Century mode is via blogging and forums, etc.

I can't comprehend using blogs for information, and the forums I'm on
are not set up for killfiling the jerks.

(To those of you who think *I"M* a jerk: you must not spend much time on
USENET; it's all relative, and anyplace *I* want to avoid would be sheer
hell for you.)

I.P.

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:32:39 -0400, "Heather" <no.one@home.invalid>
wrote:

>No.....they are getting rid of them because they say they are losing
>money on them. Most of the commercial ones are about $10/month. They
>also say that the 21st Century mode is via blogging and forums, etc.

With an ever reducing number of portals into usenet, and -
google-groups excepted - a slightly arcane system of posting, the
demise of usenet must be almost upon us.
Does anyone know which is the most populated PCa forum out there?

"Heather" <no.one@home.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
> news:vKX7k.47$SH5.5@newsfe06.lga...
>> cpeters9@rochester.rr.com wrote:
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>
>>>
>>> I have just found that RR will no longer offer Usenet service.
>>>
>>>
>>> I really don't want to register with Yahoo, because, as you can see,
>>> my email address appears. Road runner has suggested some commercial
>>> services that would charge me, but are there any free ones out there?
>>> If so, how do I get there and register? Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Don't all the major ISPs provide USENET at no extra cost?
>>
> No.....they are getting rid of them because they say they are losing money
> on them. Most of the commercial ones are about $10/month. They also say
> that the 21st Century mode is via blogging and forums, etc. BS.
>
> HF
>
I wonder how long it will be before *aioe.org* and Motzarella and the other
free news services will also begin to charge after the influx of subscribers
moving from the ISP's who used to carry Usenet.
--
JerryW

Please respond to group; email address is not valid

2/11/04 PSA 2.6, Suspicious DRE (age 62)
2/23/04 Biopsy: Gleason 3+4=7, T2a, left lobe
5/18/04 RRP, Path: Gleason 4+3=7, T2c, both lobes
Fully continent by 9/04
PSA through 4/22/08: <0.1

"JerryW" <jerryw@seemysig.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Heather" <no.one@home.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g3pmcb$h3c$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> No.....they are getting rid of them because they say they are losing
>> money on them. Most of the commercial ones are about $10/month.
>> They also say that the 21st Century mode is via blogging and forums,
>> etc. BS.
>>
>> HF
>>
> I wonder how long it will be before *aioe.org* and Motzarella and the
> other free news services will also begin to charge after the influx of
> subscribers moving from the ISP's who used to carry Usenet.

I don't know. But I used to use an excellent free German one that now
charges annually. "Individual.net??".....I think. But my one problem
with it is that they did not allow you to use a munged address.

OK, just checked them out and they do allow you to use the "invalid"
word at the end of your from address. And it is 10 Euros a year, but at
the time they started charging, they didn't have Paypal and that was a
HUGE drawback.

Just as a bit of trivia, one of the best free manual antivirus proggies
was one called "F-Prot" from Iceland (many years ago). Frisk didn't
charge because it would cost him 3 times as much as the registration fee
in order to cash a North American cheque.

The Frugal Scot

Heather wrote:

> I don't know. But I used to use an excellent free German one that now
> charges annually. "Individual.net??".....I think. But my one problem
> with it is that they did not allow you to use a munged address.
>
> OK, just checked them out and they do allow you to use the "invalid"
> word at the end of your from address. And it is 10 Euros a year, but at
> the time they started charging, they didn't have Paypal and that was a
> HUGE drawback.

I also used the German Server when it was free. When they started to
charge I switched to the Comcast news server that is free. In the long
run Comcast had lots of problems and I have been back with the German
Server for a long time now. It is news.individual.net and costs about
$14 per year, it is very, very reliable.

sue

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:04:23 -0700, I.P. Freely wrote...
>
>cpeters9@rochester.rr.com wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>>
>> I have just found that RR will no longer offer Usenet service.
>>
>>
>> I really don't want to register with Yahoo, because, as you can see,
>> my email address appears. Road runner has suggested some commercial
>> services that would charge me, but are there any free ones out there?
>> If so, how do I get there and register? Thanks for your help.
>
>Don't all the major ISPs provide USENET at no extra cost?
>
>I.P.

My last few ISPs were so unreliable I ended up picking up an account with
Newsguy. It was a lot easier just getting newsgroups through a dependable
third-party.

They have a good assortment of options depending if you download much or not.
They're also having a special for Roadrunner customers looking for a Usenet
replacement.

http://newsguy.com/freemonth.htm

Terry
--
**
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<rosbif> wrote in message news5b1645undo8et5ijdr9t8dl9no8t7lous@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:32:39 -0400, "Heather" <no.one@home.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>No.....they are getting rid of them because they say they are losing
>>money on them. Most of the commercial ones are about $10/month. They
>>also say that the 21st Century mode is via blogging and forums, etc.
>
> With an ever reducing number of portals into usenet, and -
> google-groups excepted - a slightly arcane system of posting, the
> demise of usenet must be almost upon us.
> Does anyone know which is the most populated PCa forum out there?

I used to participate in a Yahoo forum for prostate cancer. It was
well used and there was a sort of minimal moderation that kept
virtually all of the spam out. Unfortunately, for reasons I was
never able to discover, the "daily digest" mechanism I liked to
use on that group stopped working for me (it still worked for
some people) and I drifted away.

Oddly, the treatment option popularity on that group was
quite different from the popularity here.

I would say that on a.s.c.p, most of us have chosen surgery
with a significant number choosing one or another form of
x-radiation. On the Yahoo group there was intense interest in
proton radiation - a different animal from x-rays. I don't recall
anyone on our group choosing that - though admittedly its
availability is very limited.

Alan

On Jun 24, 7:01 pm, "Alan Meyer" <amey...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <rosbif> wrote in messagenews5b1645undo8et5ijdr9t8dl9no8t7lous@4ax .com...
> > On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:32:39 -0400, "Heather" <no....@home.invalid>
> > wrote:
>
> >>No.....they are getting rid of them because they say they are losing
> >>money on them. Most of the commercial ones are about $10/month. They
> >>also say that the 21st Century mode is via blogging and forums, etc.
>
> > With an ever reducing number of portals into usenet, and -
> > google-groups excepted - a slightly arcane system of posting, the
> > demise of usenet must be almost upon us.
> > Does anyone know which is the most populated PCa forum out there?
>
> I used to participate in a Yahoo forum for prostate cancer. It was
> well used and there was a sort of minimal moderation that kept
> virtually all of the spam out. Unfortunately, for reasons I was
> never able to discover, the "daily digest" mechanism I liked to
> use on that group stopped working for me (it still worked for
> some people) and I drifted away.
>
> Oddly, the treatment option popularity on that group was
> quite different from the popularity here.
>
> I would say that on a.s.c.p, most of us have chosen surgery
> with a significant number choosing one or another form of
> x-radiation. On the Yahoo group there was intense interest in
> proton radiation - a different animal from x-rays. I don't recall
> anyone on our group choosing that - though admittedly its
> availability is very limited.
>
> Alan

Go to the prostate cancer forum at Healingwell.com And forums for
many other conditions, too.

-Les

<cpeters9@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
>
> I have just found that RR will no longer offer Usenet service.
>
>
> I really don't want to register with Yahoo, because, as you can see,
> my email address appears. Road runner has suggested some commercial
> services that would charge me, but are there any free ones out there?
> If so, how do I get there and register? Thanks for your help.
>
> Claude

You probably got the answer already, but...

I too got kicked off by RR. I went with Mozarella and Steve Jordan
recommends Mozilla. Both are free.

"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
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> (To those of you who think *I"M* a jerk: you must not spend much time on
> USENET; it's all relative, and anyplace *I* want to avoid would be sheer
> hell for you.)

There are different levels of "jerk". :-)

"Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> You probably got the answer already, but...
>
> I too got kicked off by RR. I went with Mozarella and Steve Jordan
> recommends Mozilla. Both are free.
Steve.....I can't seem to get thru to Steve Jordan (Esteban), but
Mozilla is the maker of a browser and/or email program. As in Firefox,
Thunderbird, and so on.

Motzarella is a free news server......as is aioe.org and a few others.
Two totally different things.

Must write aioe.org and see why they ban your posts. Probably another
Steve Kramer who is banned. Kramer would not be an uncommon name in
Germany.

Cheers....The Minx

Hi, I live in Hawaii and RR cancelled here about 12 to 18 months ago. I just
found out
about the news group news.motzarella.org. Go to their web site,
motzarella.org, it's free. You have to
register and they will send an email giving you a password and how to sign
on. I use
Outlook Express, it took about 15 minutes total to sign on and get their
email and
then start the newgroup in Outlook Express.
<cpeters9@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
> I have just found that RR will no longer offer Usenet service.
> <snip>
>
> If so, how do I get there and register? Thanks for your help.
>
> Claude

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:01:42 -0400, "Alan Meyer" <ameyer2@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I used to participate in a Yahoo forum for prostate cancer. It was
>well used and there was a sort of minimal moderation that kept
>virtually all of the spam out. Unfortunately, for reasons I was
>never able to discover, the "daily digest" mechanism I liked to
>use on that group stopped working for me (it still worked for
>some people) and I drifted away.
>
>Oddly, the treatment option popularity on that group was
>quite different from the popularity here.
>
>I would say that on a.s.c.p, most of us have chosen surgery
>with a significant number choosing one or another form of
>x-radiation. On the Yahoo group there was intense interest in
>proton radiation - a different animal from x-rays. I don't recall
>anyone on our group choosing that - though admittedly its
>availability is very limited.

Yes, interesting how forums have a tendency to cloud-cluster round a
bias or favouritism, like chatting groups at a party. By and large
a.s.c.p. seems to manage to keep its church fairly broad.

rosbif wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:01:42 -0400, "Alan Meyer" <ameyer2@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I used to participate in a Yahoo forum for prostate cancer. It was
>> well used and there was a sort of minimal moderation that kept
>> virtually all of the spam out. Unfortunately, for reasons I was
>> never able to discover, the "daily digest" mechanism I liked to
>> use on that group stopped working for me (it still worked for
>> some people) and I drifted away.
>>
>> Oddly, the treatment option popularity on that group was
>> quite different from the popularity here.
>>
>> I would say that on a.s.c.p, most of us have chosen surgery
>> with a significant number choosing one or another form of
>> x-radiation. On the Yahoo group there was intense interest in
>> proton radiation - a different animal from x-rays. I don't recall
>> anyone on our group choosing that - though admittedly its
>> availability is very limited.
>
> Yes, interesting how forums have a tendency to cloud-cluster round a
> bias or favouritism, like chatting groups at a party. By and large
> a.s.c.p. seems to manage to keep its church fairly broad.
>

But don't try to suggest watchful waiting may be best in case of
low-grade cancers. Herr Freely, the Steves and his other underlings will
raise ll kinds of emotional attacks.

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:48:44 -0400, "Claude"
<cpeters9@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
>news:vKX7k.47$SH5.5@newsfe06.lga...
>> cpeters9@rochester.rr.com wrote:
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>
>>>
>>> I have just found that RR will no longer offer Usenet service.
>>>
>>>
>>> I really don't want to register with Yahoo, because, as you can see,
>>> my email address appears. Road runner has suggested some commercial
>>> services that would charge me, but are there any free ones out there?
>>> If so, how do I get there and register? Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Don't all the major ISPs provide USENET at no extra cost?
>>
>> I.P.
>
>Time Warner, Verizon, and Sprint no longer do. I found Motzarella through
>reading Steve's information via Heather.
>

Cox has outsourced their's to Highwinds. Highwinds does a lousy job
but I guess you get what you pay for and I suspect cox isn't paying
them much.

I understand what I.P. sez.

I have webtv and AT&T...THEY have Usenet...I don't know HOW they get it
(computer stupid)...but doesn't Google get EVERYTHING?

I thought all of this 'cutback' stuff was to help stop kiddie porn.

That's what they say on TV...and TV...never lies.

W. Cronkite

Heather is a cutie.

It all seems to be based on kiddie porn.

From everything you read and hear...

why else?

Sue wrote:

"When they started to charge I switched to the Comcast news server that
is free."

I have them for HDTV...they're COMCASTIC! :-)

Hey, that's what they say. :-)

Alan...what is the appeal of proton radiation?

You have been giving us great info...FOREVER!

THIS group has the REAL info.

I'm afraid that the other groups are just the 'ideas de jur'.

Whadda YOU think Alan?

My buddy Steve K. said to I.P. :

"There are different levels of "jerk". * :-)"

Absolutely. Dick Clark used to show only the best on American Bandstand.

Heather the Minx said that Steve J. was Esteban.

HOLY COW!!...I have 12 of his guitars...and have spoken to him live on
HSN.

Wow...our Steve J.

Who knew?

rosbif made some great comments about forums...and how WE keep our
church...

our CHURCH?

I love it.

Can I be an alter boy?

The big shots are gonna be MUCH more powerful than I.

Steve K., I.P., Steve J., Alan M, Len, rosbif, Curtis, the ladies and so
many more...are gonna be wearing the BIG robes.

I just want to kneel at their feet.

Ronnie B.

Chicago

Safire, babe...please give them a break.

I respect your thoughts...cuz you use sarcasm...

BUT...I.P. , the Steves (sorta like Wally and the Beaver)...speak much
truth.

You must respect their comments...as they know of what they speak.

They are both STILL often correct...even if you don't like what they
say.

And...maybe look online and pick up a rebuilt WebTV plus...cuz...you'll
like it and Bill Gates promised me that he'd keep our groups.

Ron B.

Chicago

"Ron B" <Gimel@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5208-48726746-1492@storefull-3312.bay.webtv.net...

> The big shots are gonna be MUCH more powerful than I.
>
> Steve K., I.P., Steve J., Alan M, Len, rosbif, Curtis, the ladies and so
> many more...are gonna be wearing the BIG robes.

I appreciate the accolade, but the only thing that earns me a big robe is by
height and girth.

Ron B wrote:
> Sue wrote:
>
> "When they started to charge I switched to the Comcast news server that
> is free."
>
> I have them for HDTV...they're COMCASTIC! :-)
>
> Hey, that's what they say. :-)

We still use Comcastic(lol) as our isp and for the tv, but no way would
I use them again as a news server. Comcastic thinks they are "comcastic"
and rule the world.lol

sue

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:58:14 -0500, Gimel@webtv.net (Ron B) wrote:

>rosbif made some great comments about forums...and how WE keep our
>church...
>
>our CHURCH?
>
>I love it.
>
>Can I be an alter boy?
>
>The big shots are gonna be MUCH more powerful than I.
>
>Steve K., I.P., Steve J., Alan M, Len, rosbif, Curtis, the ladies and so
>many more...are gonna be wearing the BIG robes.
>
>I just want to kneel at their feet.
>
>Ronnie B.
>
I wouldn't qualify for the elders' robes, I don't have their knowledge
or breadth of experience and I doubt I'll ever be able to hold a
candle to kh and all the other guys at the coal face. But thanks for
the compliment Ron - all the best to you..