Is this sh-t quackery or not?

http://www.miraclems.com/

Is this sh-t quackery or not? Has anybody tried this?
My brother has prostate cancer and decided to use this. He is 69 and now,
me at 62 should pay attention because of the brother risk factor.
I am kinda worried for his choosing to use something from out of the
country. It sounds like a quack to me.
Jamffer

Jamffer wrote:
> http://www.munged
>
> Is this sh-t quackery or not?

It is. My alarms immediately sound when I see advertising. Advertising
that includes the word "miracle." Advertising that includes the word
"supplement" when claiming cure of cancer. Anything that fails to
identify precisely what it is that is on offer. Anything alleged to be
medically useful without a shred of science to support the claim.

And anything advertised on a site where proper grammar is absent.

> Has anybody tried this?

Probably some poor desperate folks.

> My brother has prostate cancer and decided to use this. He is 69 and now,
> me at 62 should pay attention because of the brother risk factor.

What is his clinical situation? Whatever it is, I can confidently
guarantee that this stuff, whatever it is, cures nothing, including PCa.
Brother will regret his decision, I'm sorry to say.

> I am kinda worried for his choosing to use something from out of the
> country. It sounds like a quack to me.

An out-of-country source is no particular reason to doubt the bona fides
of something. It's the clinical record that supports its use, not hype.

And so far as I can see, this stuff is useless if not dangerous if
ingested. It's a disinfectant, for Heaven's sake.

I recommend that J run, not walk, to a medic who can test and advise
him. J is correct, as a brother of a PCa patient, he is at enhanced risk.

Regards,

Steve J

" ... The Universe is what it is, and it never forgives mistakes--not
even ignorant ones ... "
--Robert A. Heinlein

Jamffer wrote:
> http://www.miraclems.com/
>
> Is this sh-t quackery or not

I don't have to even click on it to answer your question. Its very name
says it all: "miracle".

I.P.

On Jun 15, 5:12*pm, "Jamffer" <jamf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.miraclems.com/
>
> Is this sh-t quackery or not? *Has anybody tried this?
> My brother has prostate cancer and decided to use this. *He is 69 and now,
> me at 62 should pay attention because of the brother risk factor.
> I am kinda worried for his choosing to use something from out of the
> country. *It sounds like a quack to me.
> Jamffer

As others have said, this is obvious quackery. The only thing
it will do for your brother is lighten his wallet.

It is obvious that no one drug could possibly have good effects
on all the disparate diseases that the quacks claim will be
cured. The people who sell this are out and out criminals.

I think your brother needs some serious advice about common
sense as well as serious medical advice.

Alan

"Steve Jordan" <mycroftscj1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:B_g5k.528$sM4.387@newsfe17.phx...
> Jamffer wrote:
> > http://www.munged
> >
> > Is this sh-t quackery or not?
>
> It is. My alarms immediately sound when I see advertising. Advertising
> that includes the word "miracle." Advertising that includes the word
> "supplement" when claiming cure of cancer. Anything that fails to
> identify precisely what it is that is on offer. Anything alleged to be
> medically useful without a shred of science to support the claim.
>
> And anything advertised on a site where proper grammar is absent.
>
> > Has anybody tried this?
>
> Probably some poor desperate folks.
>
> > My brother has prostate cancer and decided to use this. He is 69 and
now,
> > me at 62 should pay attention because of the brother risk factor.
>
> What is his clinical situation? Whatever it is, I can confidently
> guarantee that this stuff, whatever it is, cures nothing, including PCa.
> Brother will regret his decision, I'm sorry to say.
>
> > I am kinda worried for his choosing to use something from out of the
> > country. It sounds like a quack to me.
>
> An out-of-country source is no particular reason to doubt the bona fides
> of something. It's the clinical record that supports its use, not hype.
>
> And so far as I can see, this stuff is useless if not dangerous if
> ingested. It's a disinfectant, for Heaven's sake.
>
> I recommend that J run, not walk, to a medic who can test and advise
> him. J is correct, as a brother of a PCa patient, he is at enhanced risk.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve J
>
> " ... The Universe is what it is, and it never forgives mistakes--not
> even ignorant ones ... "
> --Robert A. Heinlein

I totally agree, Steve J. But my brother is scared of bad results and very
stubborn to do the smart thing. He only says that the medical institution
is denying simple known cures because they are money hungry, to pay off
their Mazaratti.
Jamffer

"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
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> Jamffer wrote:
> > http://www.miraclems.com/
> >
> > Is this sh-t quackery or not
>
> I don't have to even click on it to answer your question. Its very name
> says it all: "miracle".
>
> I.P.

That's exactly what I told him too. He is easily convinced and was in a
long period of depression, when first diagnosed. He only told me that when
the biopsy was tested, all 12 were positive for cancer. (hate that word).
Jamffer

"Alan Meyer" <ameyer2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 5:12 pm, "Jamffer" <jamf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.miraclems.com/
>
> Is this sh-t quackery or not? Has anybody tried this?
> My brother has prostate cancer and decided to use this. He is 69 and now,
> me at 62 should pay attention because of the brother risk factor.
> I am kinda worried for his choosing to use something from out of the
> country. It sounds like a quack to me.
> Jamffer

As others have said, this is obvious quackery. The only thing
it will do for your brother is lighten his wallet.

It is obvious that no one drug could possibly have good effects
on all the disparate diseases that the quacks claim will be
cured. The people who sell this are out and out criminals.

I think your brother needs some serious advice about common
sense as well as serious medical advice.

Alan

-----
Exactly, anything that cures AIDS, HCV, malaria, and abscessed teeth all at
once and is only $35.00 for a two year supply, is quack waddle quack. It's
only Clorox in a bottle as far as I know. If the treatment don't kill him
then he might get lucky and try a known proven treatment.

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:12:24 -0400, "Jamffer" <jamffer@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>http://www.miraclems.com/
>
>Is this sh-t quackery or not? Has anybody tried this?
>My brother has prostate cancer and decided to use this. He is 69 and now,
>me at 62 should pay attention because of the brother risk factor.
>I am kinda worried for his choosing to use something from out of the
>country. It sounds like a quack to me.
>Jamffer
>
I d/ld it and read the blurb. Basically, it's about Alkalizing the
Body, which is promoted in many other alternative medicine cult
practices.
Whether it works or not, I don't know, but we just had an alkalizer
clean our gutters and tiles. He was in good shape!

-Please reply to group as my email addr is fake!

-Regards CC

"Clarence Crow" <crow@perch.biz> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:12:24 -0400, "Jamffer" <jamffer@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >http://www.miraclems.com/
> >
> >Is this sh-t quackery or not? Has anybody tried this?
> >My brother has prostate cancer and decided to use this. He is 69 and
now,
> >me at 62 should pay attention because of the brother risk factor.
> >I am kinda worried for his choosing to use something from out of the
> >country. It sounds like a quack to me.
> >Jamffer
> >
> I d/ld it and read the blurb. Basically, it's about Alkalizing the
> Body, which is promoted in many other alternative medicine cult
> practices.
> Whether it works or not, I don't know, but we just had an alkalizer
> clean our gutters and tiles. He was in good shape!
>
> -Please reply to group as my email addr is fake!
>
> -Regards CC

He used MMS it in the gutters or in himself?

On Jun 15, 9:03*pm, "Jamffer" <jamf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> ... *If the treatment don't kill him
> then he might get lucky and try a known proven treatment.

Unfortunately, cancer doesn't get better over time. It
gets worse. Then it gets worse again, and so on until
it kills you.

It's possible that your brother's cancer is already beyond
primary treatment - which means it has gone too far to
be cut or x-rayed out. However it is also possible that it
hasn't. He may already have advice from a specialist
one way or another on that. If not, he should get it
immediately and, if they think he has a chance, he should
accept primary treatment now and not wait for the quack
medicine to fail. It would be tragic if his cancer is curable
now but he waits too long and it becomes incurable.

Even if it's incurable, he should see a medical oncologist
to talk about hormone therapy.

I know how hard it is to convince people of things like this.
There are lots of people out there who don't really
understand the difference between science and quackery.
If you finally convince them that product X is quackery,
they immediately want to try product Y, and you have
to start all over again.

Well, you can only do what you can do. If he won't
listen, at least you tried. Please do get your own PSA
tested on a regular basis now since there is some
evidence that there are family relationships in cancer.

Best of luck.

Alan

On Jun 15, 2:12*pm, "Jamffer" <jamf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.miraclems.com/
>
> Is this sh-t quackery or not? *Has anybody tried this?
> My brother has prostate cancer and decided to use this. *He is 69 and now,
> me at 62 should pay attention because of the brother risk factor.
> I am kinda worried for his choosing to use something from out of the
> country. *It sounds like a quack to me.
> Jamffer

If any of those claims could be clinically proven, the world would
know about it.

The treatment choices for PCa are what I term "a little shop of
horrors", but I bit the bullet and had surgery at the age of 55. If
all 12 biopsy samples were positive, my god, he should be consulting
someone legitimate about his options. I had my surgeon recommended to
me from different parts of the country, including by flight surgeons
from NASA. You don't get that reputation just by being in it for the
money.

I have another friend who was toying with the idea of alkalyzing, just
because he was afraid of the side effects. He knew it was iffy, but
it was pie-in-the-sky appealing and seductive to him not to face
incontinence or impotence. He finally had the surgery a week ago.
He is also younger than the both of you.

Your brother is in denial, and is taking his life in his hands. He
should at least go and see a therapist to help face his fears, and
help him make an adult decision. He needs some support to help face
this difficult choice.

It is crapola...
Here are a couple of links.
http://www.mothertalkers.com/story/2008/5/29/231520/085

http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/control_p...ion/malawi.htm

No mention of a this MMS stuff in the Malawi malaria control and prevention
site, although you would think that with such a high level of success, as
claimed on the miraclems site, they would be using miraclems, no?

This product has all of the earmarks of a complete sham. The claims by the
promoters that big pharmaceutical and medical companies, and the entire
medical community of the civilized world, and all of the governments on the
planet are involved in a conspiracy to keep it under wraps is as ludicrous
as the goofy theory that Bush engineered 911 without anyone leaking the
plot... Sheesh.

The only doctor on the films is a guy practicing in TJ, Mexico, a sh1thole
of a city with a well - deserved reputation for every nasty practice under
the sun. He is very sincere, as are all the other players. That is a
character trait of all successful criminals.

TJ, home of the medical scam. Do you think for a minute that that medical
facility is not tied in with the Mexican Mob? More people have died and
been disfigured and crippled by Mexican Medical as practiced in TJ than have
been cured by your brother's industrial cleanser. That is a safe bet.

Maybe he is stubborn, but if he loves you, prevail upon his love for you to
see a real doctor. If he wants to take any kind of supplements it is his
business, but he would be wise to pursue a multi vector attack on the
cancer. If he is a brother and a friend who would lay down his life for you
out of love, how much simpler would it be to just seek good medical help,
and live?

God Bless,
Steve


"Jamffer" <jamffer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> http://www.miraclems.com/
>
> Is this sh-t quackery or not? Has anybody tried this?
> My brother has prostate cancer and decided to use this. He is 69 and now,
> me at 62 should pay attention because of the brother risk factor.
> I am kinda worried for his choosing to use something from out of the
> country. It sounds like a quack to me.
> Jamffer
>
>

Well said, Steve. Humble said," the drug companies want to kill" him. I
think that the people given false hope instead of Clorox, might want to kill
him.
Thanks, Jamffer
"Steve Tew" <satewnospam.no.spam.@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:WdydnY2WBeI68srVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It is crapola...
> Here are a couple of links.
> http://www.mothertalkers.com/story/2008/5/29/231520/085
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/control_p...ion/malawi.htm
>
> No mention of a this MMS stuff in the Malawi malaria control and
prevention
> site, although you would think that with such a high level of success, as
> claimed on the miraclems site, they would be using miraclems, no?
>
> This product has all of the earmarks of a complete sham. The claims by
the
> promoters that big pharmaceutical and medical companies, and the entire
> medical community of the civilized world, and all of the governments on
the
> planet are involved in a conspiracy to keep it under wraps is as ludicrous
> as the goofy theory that Bush engineered 911 without anyone leaking the
> plot... Sheesh.
>
> The only doctor on the films is a guy practicing in TJ, Mexico, a sh1thole
> of a city with a well - deserved reputation for every nasty practice under
> the sun. He is very sincere, as are all the other players. That is a
> character trait of all successful criminals.
>
> TJ, home of the medical scam. Do you think for a minute that that medical
> facility is not tied in with the Mexican Mob? More people have died and
> been disfigured and crippled by Mexican Medical as practiced in TJ than
have
> been cured by your brother's industrial cleanser. That is a safe bet.
>
> Maybe he is stubborn, but if he loves you, prevail upon his love for you
to
> see a real doctor. If he wants to take any kind of supplements it is his
> business, but he would be wise to pursue a multi vector attack on the
> cancer. If he is a brother and a friend who would lay down his life for
you
> out of love, how much simpler would it be to just seek good medical help,
> and live?
>
> God Bless,
> Steve
>
>
> "Jamffer" <jamffer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cPedndCy5s3CGMjVnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@posted.local net...
> >
> > http://www.miraclems.com/
> >
> > Is this sh-t quackery or not? Has anybody tried this?
> > My brother has prostate cancer and decided to use this. He is 69 and
now,
> > me at 62 should pay attention because of the brother risk factor.
> > I am kinda worried for his choosing to use something from out of the
> > country. It sounds like a quack to me.
> > Jamffer
> >
> >
>
>