For single guys only

Whether delivered to it by choice or fate, how do single men cope with not
having a partner? I read the posts about sex after RP+RT with wry humour,
everyone seeming to rely so heavily on rumpy-pumpy to give them comfort.
Maybe I missed the point entirely.
The last time I had even the threat of an erection was when a woman was
holding my hand. I hadn't thought about sex for weeks - months - and even
now, find it an effort to THINK about it.
I get all the companionship I want to have from my Church activities and my
fishing. Note that I say WANT and not NEED. I don't think I need that much,
I have a preference for solitude in any case, but there's a part of me yet,
that would still enjoy waking up to the smell of a woman and all that
follows. Pipe dreams.
Support, I get from my son. Amusement I get from my cat, who sometimes seems
to know me better than I do. Frustrations, I take out on the Organ and make
a lot of noise. Pleasure? - landing a plump trout for supper; winning a hand
at cards; a new recipe that works; hearing someone's good news; mastering a
difficult to play piece of music.... the list is endless.
Relying so much on sex - there's SO much else to do! (Nice work if you can
get it...)
Or is it just the fear of not being able to perform like you once did? Fear
that the partner might stray because you can't get it up? Fear that she'll
think you don't love her?
I can't think like a woman - I can pretend to try, but that just makes for
bad karma. That caused two divorces. Overanxious attempts to please that
turned to disaster.
So what do my single brothers in this shitty godforsaken club do to
compensate?
I'd like to know. Thanks.
Hughie.

"Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearnley@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Whether delivered to it by choice or fate, how do single men cope with not
> having a partner? I read the posts about sex after RP+RT with wry humour,
> everyone seeming to rely so heavily on rumpy-pumpy to give them comfort.
> Maybe I missed the point entirely.


From what I hear it's hard enough to find a mate when you have erections
and good health. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to still have that
strong libido, without the means anymore to act it out. You still need to
prospect hard to find that special girl, but now at some point between
"hello my name is Fred", and "let's go away for the weekend"..... you need
to tell her, "oh by the way, sex may be pretty much a bit different than
what you may be expecting with me". "Hope you like fingers and toes and
tongues alot". It must be a real challenge alright. Even worse if you're a
gay man.


--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

On May 27, 10:41 pm, "glassman" <jksin...@aol.com> wrote:

> From what I hear it's hard enough to find a mate when you have erections
> and good health. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to still have that
> strong libido, without the means anymore to act it out. You still need to
> prospect hard to find that special girl, but now at some point between
> "hello my name is Fred", and "let's go away for the weekend"..... you need
> to tell her, "oh by the way, sex may be pretty much a bit different than
> what you may be expecting with me". "Hope you like fingers and toes and
> tongues alot". It must be a real challenge alright.

Actually, some gals like the other appendages and for them, a long,
wet, hairy tongue is an asset.

Best I can tell (based on my limited experience), it runs about 1/3rd,
1/3rd, 1/3rd. That is, 1/3rd of the gals don't care much for
penetrative sex, as we knew it. 1/3rd love it, long and strong.
The other third are somewhere in the middle.

Consider this, I once knew a highly sexual woman who did not like
fingers or tongues, her preference was simple penetrative intercourse,
and lots of it.

> Even worse if you're a
> gay man.

I think they have other ways of coping.

-kh

"glassman" <jksinrod@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearnley@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:itOdnSiTou9TCsTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>> Whether delivered to it by choice or fate, how do single men cope with
>> not having a partner? I read the posts about sex after RP+RT with wry
>> humour, everyone seeming to rely so heavily on rumpy-pumpy to give them
>> comfort. Maybe I missed the point entirely.
>
>
> From what I hear it's hard enough to find a mate when you have erections
> and good health. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to still have
> that strong libido, without the means anymore to act it out. You still
> need to prospect hard to find that special girl, but now at some point
> between "hello my name is Fred", and "let's go away for the weekend".....
> you need to tell her, "oh by the way, sex may be pretty much a bit
> different than what you may be expecting with me". "Hope you like fingers
> and toes and tongues alot". It must be a real challenge alright. Even
> worse if you're a gay man.
>
>
> --
> JK Sinrod
> www.SinrodStudios.com
> www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>

a long,
> wet, hairy tongue is an asset.
WHO on earth has a hairy tongue!!
(Wild laughter at this end just immagining the delighted squeals! - and
already - I smell fish! OMG!)
But - getting - the actual fact of making the effort to get a lass into my
bed - seems a thing I have no interest in these days - much as I'd like to
have one there. Even if JUST for a cuddle.
The yearning to BE with a woman, to hold, to feel and see the curves, to
feel her shudder at my touch, to be kissed, not just on the lips, but my
eyes. my throat, ears, my chest... How can that compare to anything? My Dick
says I want to be hard - I'm just divorced from him now. He's redundant.
Is this unusual for us single guys on the damn hormones?
Is it just me?
Like Leah said, when you get tired of wanting things, that's it - your
fucked.

Mygosh, kh - you DO make me laugh! Keep doing it!
Luvya Bro!
Shuggie.

I lost the plot a bit on Glassman's post when he mentioned Gay men.I would
immagine that gay men might find it easier to deal with partnership issues
because they have a wider circle of - lets say "Partners" Biut I'm not
expert on that

On May 28, 5:27 pm, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> WHO on earth has a hairy tongue!!

I'll admit it. I didn't make this one up.

Burt Reynolds said it on a late night interview show, I think it was
Johnny Carson. He was talking about his break up with Loni Anderson,
how she was high-maintenance, what went wrong between them, then he
blurted out that she'll miss his "long wet hairy tongue."

The other memorable interview, this is one that I didn't catch. When
Elizabeth Taylor divorced Eddie Fisher for Richard Burton, Eddie
fought the divorce.

The news interviewed Eddie on the courthouse steps and asked him why
he didn't just sign the papers. I'm told it went something like
this:

News: "So Eddie, it's over, why were you fighting the divorce?"

Eddie: "Well, if you'd ever fuc..."

News: "CUT! CUT! Go to commercial. Go to commercial."

Eddie: "..ked a woman like her, you'd know the answer."

News: "We're off the air? "

-kh At least that's what I was told.

kh wrote:
> On May 28, 5:27 pm, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> WHO on earth has a hairy tongue!!
>
> I'll admit it. I didn't make this one up.
>
> Burt Reynolds said it on a late night interview show

"Arnold" said this on Carson: "pumping iron is better than coming".
Needless to say, that was before he was even dreaming of running for
governor.

Johnny's eyebrows shot up, but his voice just glossed right over it.

I.P.

"kh" <tchtic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On May 28, 5:27 pm, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> WHO on earth has a hairy tongue!!
>
> I'll admit it. I didn't make this one up.
>
> Burt Reynolds said it on a late night interview show, I think it was
> Johnny Carson. He was talking about his break up with Loni Anderson,
> how she was high-maintenance, what went wrong between them, then he
> blurted out that she'll miss his "long wet hairy tongue."
>
> The other memorable interview, this is one that I didn't catch. When
> Elizabeth Taylor divorced Eddie Fisher for Richard Burton, Eddie
> fought the divorce.
>

These remind me of the classic TV clip of Groucho Marx interviewing a
contestant on "You Bet Your Life." The lady proudly said she was the wife of
a sailor serving in the U.S. Navy. She admitted she was nervous (this was
either during WW II or shortly thereafter) and said her fondest wish was "to
wake up and see my husband standing at the foot of our bed, holding his
discharge." The audience howled, and Groucho just stared, deadpan, at the
camera.

"Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearnley@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>I lost the plot a bit on Glassman's post when he mentioned Gay men.I would
>immagine that gay men might find it easier to deal with partnership issues
>because they have a wider circle of - lets say "Partners" Biut I'm not
>expert on that
>


I was thinking how it's tough enough for 50% erection squishy vaginal
sex... but the old "dirt road" may require a Peterbilt backhoe! Hey what do
I know?


--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Alex wrote

> These remind me of the classic TV clip of Groucho Marx
> interviewing a a contestant on "You Bet Your Life."

The classic clip I love was an interview with a golfer's wife during a PGA
tournament.

Interviewer: Are you superstitious?

Wife: Oh, golly yes. Why, I wouldn't let him start a game before I kiss
his balls.

On May 29, 1:45 am, "california_chief"
<Fire_Chief@Jamacha_Junction_FD.ca.us> wrote:
> The classic clip I love was an interview with a golfer's wife during a PGA
> tournament.
>
> Interviewer: Are you superstitious?
>
> Wife: Oh, golly yes. Why, I wouldn't let him start a game before I kiss
> his balls.

I heard the one that got Groucho taken off the air was when he was
interviewing a mother who had 11 children. When she made the remark
that she "really' loved her husband, Groucho said, "Yeah, well I
really love my cigar, but I take it out from time to time."

"california_chief" <Fire_Chief@Jamacha_Junction_FD.ca.us> wrote in message
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> Alex wrote
>
>> These remind me of the classic TV clip of Groucho Marx
>> interviewing a a contestant on "You Bet Your Life."
>
> The classic clip I love was an interview with a golfer's wife during a PGA
> tournament.
>
> Interviewer: Are you superstitious?
>
> Wife: Oh, golly yes. Why, I wouldn't let him start a game before I kiss
> his balls.

You missed the best part!!!

Then, Johnny Carson said, "I bet that makes his putter stand up."

I've been reading posts on this list for the past two weeks and you
guys seem to be the men I want to pose a question to...

Just two and a half months ago, I met a wonderful man. I'm 46 and
he's 49. We have been having a great time. Now he finds out he has
prostate cancer. He had an MRI and bone scan and found out last
Friday that they were negative. He told me he as a 7 Gleason and his
PSA was 4.1. His dad is a prostate cancer survivor.

The night we met, the one thing he felt I should know was that he
doesn't like to be around people when he is sick. Well... He wasn't
kidding.

That said, I realize he has a lot of research to do right now, and he
needs to be focused on making his treatment decisions and taking care
of himself. I am in the medical field (am currently managing several
medical practices, including a urology practice). How do I continue
to let him know that I want to be there for him? Impotence doesn't
scare me - there are other ways of being satisfied (hairy
tongue????). Incontinence is an issue many of us moms deal with
whenever we sneeze, cough, bendover, on and on and on. Do I just
backoff and leave him alone? Do I call every few days? I've been
divorced for 8 years and he is the first man I've met who makes me
feel as though there could be a future as a couple.

Sorry this is so long - but you may save me the cost of a counseling
session. ;o)

Sandy

Hello, Sandy:

First of all, you've probably just melted a lot of hearts on this newsgroup.
Expect to see a flood of proposals. :-)

Seriously, I am sorry to hear about your loved one's illness, and I wish him
the best. Tell him what you've told us. You want to be there for him, and
he should hear that from you.

You say you manage a urology practice? Could you be a source of information
for him? including (but not limited to) sex? You'd also have an insider's
view of the medical culture that he would find useful. And he just might
need a sounding board from time to time.

When you say he doesn't like to be around others when he's sick; do you know
why? Does he have any symptoms? Many of us only discover our PCa via
biopsies and the like.

I hope it works out, and please let us know how things go. Not only is this
a group from men with PCa, but also for the people who love them.

--charlie

--
6/2006 PSA 5.2
DRE suspicious
7/2006 Biopsy
2 of 10 positive
Gleason 7(3+4)
11/2006 LRP
Clear margins
1/2007 PSA < 0.01
3/2007 PSA < 0.01
so far, so good

Thanks for the input, Charlie.

He didn't have any symptoms. His PSA was 3.0 two years ago so he went
for an annual exam and it had risen. In addition, his doctor said he
could feel a nodule but yet the doctor couldn't locate it when he used
ultrasound to do the biopsies. Eight biopsies resulted in two being
positive on the left.

Meeting singles and dating is hard enough these days - let alone
trying to continue to get to know a man who was just diagnosed with
PCa. Sure wish we had been together longer before he learned of his
diagnosis. We haven't yet managed to get to know each other well
enough to have the more open communication skills that come from being
with someone a long time. He hasn't expanded on why he doesn't like
to be around others when he is sick. Guessing it's a macho thing? I
really want to tell him about this group - you all provide so much
support and encouragement to each other - this would be a wonderful
forum for him.

I'm going to try to be patient and see if he reaches out soon.
Unfortunately, patience is a virtue I'm definitely short on. When I
see something I want, I go for it!

Best wishes to you, Charlie...

Sandy

Sandy wrote:

> Just two and a half months ago, I met a wonderful man. I'm 46 and
> he's 49. We have been having a great time. Now he finds out he has
> prostate cancer.

The same happened to me.

First, I was dx'd with ankylosing spondylitis in 1976, a long time ago. I
had to stop driving in 1996 because the AS fused my neck and I could no
longer watch out for other traffic.\

Fast forward:

I proposed on April 29th, 2001, and she accepted.

Then in May the results of my first PSA arrived and in June the results of a
biopsy. Doc said I had PCa in the right node.

I gave her an out, if she wanted. She didn't. We were married April 2002.

"CaresALot" <steel17@cox.net> wrote in message
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> The night we met, the one thing he felt I should know was that he
> doesn't like to be around people when he is sick. Well... He wasn't
> kidding.

I've been married for 31½ years. Being the antithesis of 'single' you may
wish to stop reading now.

If you're still with me... I was 46 when I was diagnosed and my father was
a PCa victim. So, I have an opinion -- which may be way off....

He is not sick. He probably feels great (asymptomatic) and just had his
world come crashing down around him. He's in his cave and quite possibly
unable to cope with the news he just got. At the same time, he's just found
a great woman and currently considering the possibility that you would be
better off without a no-dick, bed-wetter.


> That said, I realize he has a lot of research to do right now, and he
> needs to be focused on making his treatment decisions and taking care
> of himself. I am in the medical field (am currently managing several
> medical practices, including a urology practice). How do I continue
> to let him know that I want to be there for him? Impotence doesn't
> scare me - there are other ways of being satisfied (hairy
> tongue????). Incontinence is an issue many of us moms deal with
> whenever we sneeze, cough, bendover, on and on and on. Do I just
> backoff and leave him alone? Do I call every few days?

First, I recommend you consider where YOU want your relationship to be in,
say, 12 years. I think you are going to have to decide very early in your
relationship whether you want this man through the long haul. If you decide
yes, then I would call him often and let him know you are available for him
for anything... anything at all... and that you want to take care of
him... even if it's through impotence, incontinence, illness, and hospice.
On the other hand, you want him to know that you consider him a man and that
he hasn't lost any manliness through this desease. It might be a tightrope,
but somehow I suspect you can walk it.

> Sorry this is so long - but you may save me the cost of a counseling
> session. ;o)

This was not long. Thanks for trusting us to advise you.

Dear Sandy,

I've ready a lot of stories about couples who met soon after the man
was diagnosed and went on to have a good relationship. I also have
read a lot about women who left their partners because of PC
(supposedly). In every case, I thought there was some existing defect
in the relationship and it wasn't really about the PC.

I am about your age and I know it's difficult to find good men that
you can connect with so if you really care for this guy, he might be
your ticket to love. Stay with it. We ladies get wisewith age and we
know how to sniff out a good man. Not the superficialites. Also, the
way a man deals with trouble says a lot about him. (You can't taste
the tea unless you put it in hot water.)

I'm concerned about you "not having patience". In this business, PC,
you have to take a lot of time evaluating your treatment options.
Because there are differences of opinion about critical areas of PC,
you definitely should advise your friend to take some time before he
makes a decision and maybe you can help him with that.

My husband read your msg and said he can't "counsel" you without more
info. I think you have to get back on the couch! Was this man
married before? Obviously he feels close to you because he is sharing
all of his medical data, which is pretty personal. Has your friend
had a serious illness before? I found the statement odd that he
doesn't like people around him when he's sick. Did he have a bad
experience. I think a lot of men distance themselves from their
partners because in some way they feel "unmanly" and are afraid of
rejection.

To get to the point: This man is probably in shock. It takes a while
for that to wear off. That may account for some of the distance you
feel. Just tell him you are on his "team" and would he like you to do
something for him, e.g., research, cook something, etc. And you can
be a sounding board for him. Please do not pressure him.

When you're with your friend don't focus the conversation on the PC.
Let him talk if he wants to. And *please* do not tell him "I will be
there for you if you become impotent or incontinent!* Be positive.
Maybe get him "The Prostate Book" by Scardino. It's easy to read but
I actually did not allow my husband to read the parts of the book
about everything that can go wrong until after his treatment. There
are a lot of good things about getting PC and not something else.

I also want you to know it's very possible to be treated for PC and go
on with your life as before. A lot of men have sexual function after
surgery, for example. And I don't read much about bad cases of
incontince. Your friend is also young and healthy presumably and that
bodes well for any treatment.

Also, your friend is lucky that his ca was discovered while it's still
treatable (probably). This business about his father having had PC --
so did my husband's. The the way I think of it is that your friend
was genetically predisposed to this illness and there was probably
nothing he could have done to avert it. Maybe this kind of
"inevitability" takes some of the burden off my husb. (How many times
has he been asked, "Were you exposed to toxic substances? I think
they tested nukes in St. Louis)

Also, there is a new online support group for the "babies", e.g., men
in their forties. Have to ask Malecare.com. I think your friend
would be able to relate to this group in particular.

By far the best thing you can do for this man is help SAVE HIS LIFE.
There is so much disagreement about treating PC -- I just read in
endotext.org about a study that revealed that only 13% of men make a
treatment decision about PC while being well-informed. So you have to
see that he gets the right info.

About his cancer: A Gleason 7 is usually treatable (intermediate
cancer but depends if it's a Gleason 3+4 or a 4+3.) but I am concerned
about the nodules the doctor felt.

This is what you need to do ASAP:

*Have his biopsy reviewed by expert(s) in PC pathology. This is
because your prognosis is as good as the accuracy of your Gleason
score. Almost. Search this group for names. There is Bostwick Labs,
Dr. Epstein at Johns Hopkins, etc.

Don't let anybody talk you out of doing the above. It is critical. I
asked for my husband's biopsy to be reviewed by an expert at MSK. The
uro said it wasn't necessary. Well, NY Hosp did the biopsy review and
it was way off, on the moon! (Quest did better).

* Choose a good doctor and hospital for treatment. Check out
usnews.com because they rate hospitals and it's something to go on.
Be sure to search "cancer", not urology. I've also posted msgs here
about how to go about finding a good doctor. Also some hospitals are
providing special services for cancer survivors. Good follow-up is
critical.

Castle Connolly recently started publishing a book about "The Best
Doctors for Cancer". I have found it to be really useful.

* Endotext.org. This is by far the most useful site I've found for
comprehensive, current, unbiased info. Endotext is geared for
practicing physicians but is understandable. Go to endoxtext.org and
click on "Male Endocrinology" and then "Prostate cancer". This site
has won awards for its content and clarity. I just read a whole lot
of info there that most new patients (and old ones like me) would have
no way of knowing. There are a number of "biomarkers" apparently that
might predict the course of the cancer.

I don't know if there are tests for these "biomarkers" in use but you
should look into it. There's a urine test that I think may be
useful. Ask about PCA3. Endotext thinks it's useful. *Some people
have told me that an endorectal MRI might be useful in imaging the
cancer*. Check it out!

I think Dr. Strum discusses biomarkers and other predictors of
treatment outcomes in his book, "Primer" on PC. Dr. Strum is
considered an outlier by many, but I think he has some important
things to say.

Anyway, I don't know if this all is accurate but the idea is "Know
your cancer". Get a qualified PC specialist to sit down with your
friend and discuss his options, including probabilities, statistics
etc. for different outcomes. A major problem with PC is a "rush to
judgment". In my case, the uro said "you should have robotic surgery"
and we left it at that. If you can, verify the stats on your own.

Because there is a lack of clarity about how to treat PC some advocacy
groups recommend that you see doctors in different specialties. In
this case: a *medical oncologist*. Tell your friend not to just run
and have surgery. There was an article posted just the other day
about PC patients receiving treatment based on the specialty of the
doctor consulted, not necessarily what was best for them.

And, being the Mama that you are, tell him "Everything will be OK". I
can send you loads of msgs sent to me by people who've had surgery and
were doing triathlons or serious sports soon after the RP. You have
to understand that most people who post in these groups may have some
problems with PC. Those whose lives are going swimmingly tend not to
post. But they're out there. Just want to tell you that my husband
biked to his 3 week appt (4 miles) and did just fine.

My husband, unfortunately is struggling with a recurrence (RP 10/05).
The other day he had to lie for hours on a table with his bladder
bursting so they could make a "bodymold" for his radiation. I asked
him if his tush was exposed and he replied, "Some of the time". So I
said we should reverse the charges : - )

To sum up, you sound like a good woman, he sounds like a good man, and
there's no reason that this can't turn into your "dream
relationship". But keep in mind that he has just received a big blow
and it takes time to recover. Dr. Scardino calls it a "concussion".
So give him a lot of leeway.

One more thing: Being in the business you might know this. Get copies
of all your medical records. And read them! We discovered 15 mos.
after my husband's RP that he had a positive margin. By reading the
surgical pathology report on my own.

Also, if you have had RP get the "Operative Report". In my husband's
case he had been told that both nerves had been spared but in fact
bundles of nerves were "excised" on one side. Also, when you go to a
doctor ask if you can tape-record the session. We did this with Dr.
Petrylak.

One more thing: Califchies posted something about the health benefits
of Laughter. It is so true. When my husband was diagnosed with a
recurrence I used to set aside 15 min to 1/2 hour a day for "Laugh
Time". I went to the library and got a load of books on Humor. Then
I spent time "harvesting jokes" from the internet. I think more
people should do this It helps (and I have a big fat binder of jokes
that can be recycled.)

I wish you both the best. You put me in a romantic mood so I guess
something good came out of your post. I am going to add a few words
by the Bard about Love and Adversity.

"Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove.
Oh no, it is an ever-fixed mark,
That looks on tempests and is never shaken.
.. . .
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
If this be error, and upon me prov'd
I never writ nor no man ever loved."

The "fixed mark" reminds me of the "tattoo" my husb got recently in
prep for the RT.

Good luck,


Leah

PS: keep us posted.

"CaresALot" <steel17@cox.net> wrote in message
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> I've been reading posts on this list for the past two weeks and you
> guys seem to be the men I want to pose a question to...
>



As long as he knows of your offer for help and companionship all you can
do is make sure your voice is heard, and then back away and wait. He has
every right to deal with all this in his own way. This is serous stuff, and
at this point romance is the last thing he has to worry about.

--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Leah,

First of all, thank you sooo much for the encouraging and informative
post. You spent a great deal of time composing it and I appreciate
it. My friend really needs to know about this group and the "babies"
group - you all have so much to offer him!

Yesterday I tried to call my friend. He didn't answer so I left him a
message asking him to call me. For the first time since we met, he
never responded. My guess is that he has retreated to a mental cave
for now. From the comments he made to me over the past few weeks,
that is what he was preparing to do. He is a very analytical person
and we had talked about the research he needed to do before he decides
on his treatment plan. I didn't bring up the subject of his cancer -
I only listened when he talked. The one piece of advice I offered was
when I told him to be sure to check out ALL his options - talk to an
oncologist, get a second urological opinion, do whatever it takes to
educate himself. So I'm quite sure he is learning and analyzing and
preparing to make the important decisions he needs to make. He never
told me "goodbye" and he told me he may want my input at times. That
said, I've decided to send him a letter telling him how I feel. Then
I'm going to call every week or so and let him know I'm thinking of
him. And I'll send silly or encouraging cards occasionally. I
believe that's what I would want if the situation were reversed -
interest without a lot of pressure.

My lack of patience extends only to the whole "dating" game.
According to my friends, I'm one of the most patient people they know
in my home life, business, etc. At 46, I've decided what I want from
a relationship. And I will remain alone before I will settle into an
unhealthy relationship just for the sake of being with someone. I've
seen too many women do that. But it is so difficult to meet eligible
men! And I've waited for my daughters to reach their mid and late
teens before I even began to think about getting serious with
someone. (I didn't want my daughters to eat them alive!)

Thanks again, everyone!

Sandy

I.P. wrote about Ahnold...

Ahnold said:

"pumping iron is better than coming."

He was apparently heavy into steroids at the time.

Ahnold...not I.P.

kh wrote:

"Actually, some gals like the other appendages and for them, a long,
wet, hairy tongue is an asset."

Hairy tongue?


Ron B.