Uro Visit

Well, I went to the doc today. Got my consult, finger wave, and shot in the
butt.

Together we decided based on my ancestry, history, and age, IADT is not a
safe option for me. And, assuming the definitive research is not completed
before IADT is a moot issue with me (because I will have already graduated
to chemo), I will likely never have a drug holiday. Bummer.

I get my PSA pull tomorrow.

--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
Casodex added daily 07/06
PSA undetectable since, < 0.04 on 10/09/08
Illegitimati non carborundum

Sorry Steve. ( Hate to hear that. Hang in there ... at least it's
Friday!!


"Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h09so2$ipk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Well, I went to the doc today. Got my consult, finger wave, and shot in
> the
> butt.
>
> Together we decided based on my ancestry, history, and age, IADT is not a
> safe option for me. And, assuming the definitive research is not
> completed
> before IADT is a moot issue with me (because I will have already graduated
> to chemo), I will likely never have a drug holiday. Bummer.
>
> I get my PSA pull tomorrow.
>
> --
> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
> PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
> Casodex added daily 07/06
> PSA undetectable since, < 0.04 on 10/09/08
> Illegitimati non carborundum
>
>

Steve Kramer wrote:
> Well, I went to the doc today. Got my consult, finger wave, and shot in the
> butt.
>
> Together we decided based on my ancestry, history, and age, IADT is not a
> safe option for me. And, assuming the definitive research is not completed
> before IADT is a moot issue with me (because I will have already graduated
> to chemo), I will likely never have a drug holiday. Bummer.
>
> I get my PSA pull tomorrow.

Good luck to you Steve!!

sue

Best of luck to you Steve, let us know how it turns out.
Dan



"Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h09so2$ipk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Well, I went to the doc today. Got my consult, finger wave, and shot in
> the
> butt.
>
> Together we decided based on my ancestry, history, and age, IADT is not
> a
> safe option for me. And, assuming the definitive research is not
> completed
> before IADT is a moot issue with me (because I will have already
> graduated
> to chemo), I will likely never have a drug holiday. Bummer.
>
> I get my PSA pull tomorrow.
>
> --
> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
> PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
> Casodex added daily 07/06
> PSA undetectable since, < 0.04 on 10/09/08
> Illegitimati non carborundum
>
>



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Good luck to you Steve, and low PSAs forever!

J


On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 21:34:54 -0400, "Steve Kramer"
<skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote:

>Well, I went to the doc today. Got my consult, finger wave, and shot in the
>butt.
>
>Together we decided based on my ancestry, history, and age, IADT is not a
>safe option for me. And, assuming the definitive research is not completed
>before IADT is a moot issue with me (because I will have already graduated
>to chemo), I will likely never have a drug holiday. Bummer.
>
>I get my PSA pull tomorrow.

your uro is very severe,mine was in favour of IADT., Best luck for next
figures.
Colophony
"Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:h09so2$ipk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Well, I went to the doc today. Got my consult, finger wave, and shot in
> the
> butt.
>
> Together we decided based on my ancestry, history, and age, IADT is not a
> safe option for me. And, assuming the definitive research is not
> completed
> before IADT is a moot issue with me (because I will have already graduated
> to chemo), I will likely never have a drug holiday. Bummer.
>
> I get my PSA pull tomorrow.
>
> --
> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
> PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
> Casodex added daily 07/06
> PSA undetectable since, < 0.04 on 10/09/08
> Illegitimati non carborundum
>
>

"Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h09so2$ipk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Well, I went to the doc today. Got my consult, finger wave, and shot in
> the
> butt.
>
> Together we decided based on my ancestry, history, and age, IADT is not a
> safe option for me. And, assuming the definitive research is not
> completed
> before IADT is a moot issue with me (because I will have already graduated
> to chemo), I will likely never have a drug holiday. Bummer.
>
> I get my PSA pull tomorrow.
>
> --
> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
> PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
> Casodex added daily 07/06
> PSA undetectable since, < 0.04 on 10/09/08
> Illegitimati non carborundum
>
>

Steve,
I certainly agree with your decision that intermittent is not a good choice
for you. I have had very good luck with IADT, but the docs think I take too
much risk with it. I am now about seven weeks back on ADT and the joint
pain is already returning. It is one of the worst things as it makes
activity difficult. Oh well, stock up on aspirin.

Glad the ADT is still working for you. Hope the new PSA is consistent with
the past.

Later,
Dale P

On June 4, Steve K wrote:

> Together we decided based on my ancestry, history, and age, IADT is not a
> safe option for me. And, assuming the definitive research is not completed
> before IADT is a moot issue with me (because I will have already graduated
> to chemo), I will likely never have a drug holiday. Bummer.

Bummer indeed.

I think it well to make sure that everyone understands that IADT
(Intermittent Androgen Deprivation Therapy) is *not* curative, nor is it
intended to be.

It is resorted to when appropriate: undetectable PSAs, and I mean the
real thing: =/< 0.05 ng/mL, for at least a year on ADT, preferably ADT3.

Then can start the holiday. This is solely for relief from whatever SEs
are still an issue for the patient. Again: it is *not* curative; it's
for the convenience of the patient.

Regards,

Steve J

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"Colophony" <colophony2002@yahoo.it> wrote in message
news:cUrWl.37155$Ux.723@tornado.fastwebnet.it...
> your uro is very severe,mine was in favour of IADT., Best luck for next
> figures.
> Colophony
> "Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:h09so2$ipk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Well, I went to the doc today. Got my consult, finger wave, and shot in
>> the
>> butt.
>>
>> Together we decided based on my ancestry, history, and age, IADT is not a
>> safe option for me. And, assuming the definitive research is not
>> completed
>> before IADT is a moot issue with me (because I will have already
>> graduated
>> to chemo), I will likely never have a drug holiday. Bummer.
>>
>> I get my PSA pull tomorrow.
>>
>> --
>> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
>> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
>> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
>> PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
>> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
>> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years
>> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after
>> PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years
>> Casodex added daily 07/06
>> PSA undetectable since, < 0.04 on 10/09/08
>> Illegitimati non carborundum
>>
>>
>
>