VENT-- falling apart (probable gall bladder issue)

[MZB]

Things aren't going well at all.

Now, time for a real whine. If I didn't have PC, maybe I would just
consider this a bad streak. But, honestly, I feel like an old car in
okay condition, but continually having parts just go. That's probably
exactly how it is!!

Recently I had an eye problem (recheck on that in 2 1/2 weeks).

Anyway, Thursday night I had a great chicken dinner. I was hungry and
ate quite a bit of the broiled chicken (including dark meat). 90 minutes
later I was snacking on some pistachio nuts when all of a sudden I
started experiencing significant abdominal pain/pressure. It was
terrible. Usually, alka seltzer or rolaids works quickly when I get gas
but this was different. They didn't help. When I started sweating. I
even got concerned about a heart problem. So, after 2 1/2 hours, I said
take me to the ER. We got there at 11:00 PM. Bottom line: I was IVed
some pain killer (tramadol or something like that). I know I have had a
silent gallstone for about 25 years. Well, the doctor thinks this time
it might not be so silent. At least it isn't a heart problem. We got
home at 1:30 AM (not bad -- I sure didn't want to spend the night there
but figured I'd have to in order to exclude a heart problem --
apparently it is not that).

I am now at work and we have scheduled an ultrasound of the abdomen for
later today. Unfortunately, nothing whatsoever to eat or drink for 8
hours, so I have had nothing since last night. I also didn't sleep at
all due to the pain and I am still in pain.
I still wonder if this is some kind of weird trapped gas. I have been
burping/belching a lot but it isn't helping. It is pain and pressure
almost symmetrical but centered at the center. Last night it also went
into my upper back.



And it just got worse:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The screw is tightening. After teaching today and having nothing to eat
or drink since 2:00 AM, I went in for my ultrasound today at 3:30.

After the test, the technician came out and said she spoke to the
radiologist and I had to go right back into the ER. So, the next 3-4
hours are spent waiting around in the ER room. Finally the doctor said
the ultrasound showed a thickening of the gall bladder, which is not
good. He suggested immediate surgery. But he said if I want I could go
home and see what happens, but I've been in pain for over 24 hours so it
probably will not resolve. Meanwhile, 17 ambulances showed up due to a
60-car pileup on I75. I decided to go home. I can come back tomorrow,
rather than wait around for who knows how long while they deal with more
serious situations. Also, I didn't want to deal with an emergency
surgery from some surgeon I don't even know. When I got home, I
contacted my family doctor. He said I did the right thing. It did turn
out that the surgeon on call was super top-notch, so I'll try and see
him on an elective basis...unless I have to say uncle tomorrow.
Mel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It is now Sunday night. Yesterday the pain had improved by 90%.

Today I ate some more, including some low fat foods and the pain is back
about 50%. I've also been running a low grade fever 99-100.

So, time to see a surgeon at least for a consultation.
Mel

[Gourd Dancer]

Mel, hope you are feeling better.

I am confused and maybe you can help. The term silent gallstone refers to
one who has gall stones and does not no about it. Once it is known that one
has gallstones then it is no longer "silent." About 75% of gallstone attacks
are silent. Am I wrong?

You did not mention jaundice or a yellow skin appearance. Jaundice is
typical when a stone blocks a bile duct; hence gallstone attack.

Frankly, if you were to write that you experienced nausea as well, then I
would peg you as a kidney stone attack candidate. Anyway, I wish you best of
luck in relieving your pain and finding a cause. It sure is hell to get old.

GD

"MZB" wrote in message news:jha6ik$l4g$[email protected]..

Things aren't going well at all.

Now, time for a real whine. If I didn't have PC, maybe I would just
consider this a bad streak. But, honestly, I feel like an old car in
okay condition, but continually having parts just go. That's probably
exactly how it is!!

Recently I had an eye problem (recheck on that in 2 1/2 weeks).

Anyway, Thursday night I had a great chicken dinner. I was hungry and
ate quite a bit of the broiled chicken (including dark meat). 90 minutes
later I was snacking on some pistachio nuts when all of a sudden I
started experiencing significant abdominal pain/pressure. It was
terrible. Usually, alka seltzer or rolaids works quickly when I get gas
but this was different. They didn't help. When I started sweating. I
even got concerned about a heart problem. So, after 2 1/2 hours, I said
take me to the ER. We got there at 11:00 PM. Bottom line: I was IVed
some pain killer (tramadol or something like that). I know I have had a
silent gallstone for about 25 years. Well, the doctor thinks this time
it might not be so silent. At least it isn't a heart problem. We got
home at 1:30 AM (not bad -- I sure didn't want to spend the night there
but figured I'd have to in order to exclude a heart problem --
apparently it is not that).

I am now at work and we have scheduled an ultrasound of the abdomen for
later today. Unfortunately, nothing whatsoever to eat or drink for 8
hours, so I have had nothing since last night. I also didn't sleep at
all due to the pain and I am still in pain.
I still wonder if this is some kind of weird trapped gas. I have been
burping/belching a lot but it isn't helping. It is pain and pressure
almost symmetrical but centered at the center. Last night it also went
into my upper back.



And it just got worse:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The screw is tightening. After teaching today and having nothing to eat
or drink since 2:00 AM, I went in for my ultrasound today at 3:30.

After the test, the technician came out and said she spoke to the
radiologist and I had to go right back into the ER. So, the next 3-4
hours are spent waiting around in the ER room. Finally the doctor said
the ultrasound showed a thickening of the gall bladder, which is not
good. He suggested immediate surgery. But he said if I want I could go
home and see what happens, but I've been in pain for over 24 hours so it
probably will not resolve. Meanwhile, 17 ambulances showed up due to a
60-car pileup on I75. I decided to go home. I can come back tomorrow,
rather than wait around for who knows how long while they deal with more
serious situations. Also, I didn't want to deal with an emergency
surgery from some surgeon I don't even know. When I got home, I
contacted my family doctor. He said I did the right thing. It did turn
out that the surgeon on call was super top-notch, so I'll try and see
him on an elective basis...unless I have to say uncle tomorrow.
Mel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It is now Sunday night. Yesterday the pain had improved by 90%.

Today I ate some more, including some low fat foods and the pain is back
about 50%. I've also been running a low grade fever 99-100.

So, time to see a surgeon at least for a consultation.
Mel

[I.P. Freely]

MZB wrote:
> Things aren't going well at all.
> I feel like an old car in okay condition,
> but continually having parts just go.

Here's another way to look at it.
I'm going to be really, REALLY PO'd if my PC kills or disables me while
I'm still otherwise extremely healthy. That has played a part in both of
my treatment decisions after my initial surgery. Not that a gall bladder
or detached retina are worth dying over, but if enough parts go bad, at
least the PC's QOL hit isn't as pronounced or isolated. If enough other
alligators come to my PC party, it may help me fear the first, oldest,
largest alligator less, even if only due to the distraction.

I.P.

[Tom Cular]

"I.P. Freely" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:tL8_q.4835$[email protected]..
> MZB wrote:
>> Things aren't going well at all.
>> I feel like an old car in okay condition,
>> but continually having parts just go.
>
> Here's another way to look at it.
> I'm going to be really, REALLY PO'd if my PC kills or disables me while
> I'm still otherwise extremely healthy. That has played a part in both of
> my treatment decisions after my initial surgery. Not that a gall bladder
> or detached retina are worth dying over, but if enough parts go bad, at
> least the PC's QOL hit isn't as pronounced or isolated. If enough other
> alligators come to my PC party, it may help me fear the first, oldest,
> largest alligator less, even if only due to the distraction.
>
> I.P.
We're all, or most us similar to a car with 200K on the clock, getting old
aint for sissies.

Tom

[MZB]

On 2/13/2012 1:00 AM, Gourd Dancer wrote:
> Mel, hope you are feeling better.
>
> I am confused and maybe you can help. The term silent gallstone refers
> to one who has gall stones and does not no about it. Once it is known
> that one has gallstones then it is no longer "silent." About 75% of
> gallstone attacks are silent. Am I wrong?
>
> You did not mention jaundice or a yellow skin appearance. Jaundice is
> typical when a stone blocks a bile duct; hence gallstone attack.
>
> Frankly, if you were to write that you experienced nausea as well, then
> I would peg you as a kidney stone attack candidate. Anyway, I wish you
> best of luck in relieving your pain and finding a cause. It sure is hell
> to get old.
>
> GD
>
> "MZB" wrote in message news:jha6ik$l4g$[email protected]..
>
> Things aren't going well at all.
>
> Now, time for a real whine. If I didn't have PC, maybe I would just
> consider this a bad streak. But, honestly, I feel like an old car in
> okay condition, but continually having parts just go. That's probably
> exactly how it is!!
>
> Recently I had an eye problem (recheck on that in 2 1/2 weeks).
>
> Anyway, Thursday night I had a great chicken dinner. I was hungry and
> ate quite a bit of the broiled chicken (including dark meat). 90 minutes
> later I was snacking on some pistachio nuts when all of a sudden I
> started experiencing significant abdominal pain/pressure. It was
> terrible. Usually, alka seltzer or rolaids works quickly when I get gas
> but this was different. They didn't help. When I started sweating. I
> even got concerned about a heart problem. So, after 2 1/2 hours, I said
> take me to the ER. We got there at 11:00 PM. Bottom line: I was IVed
> some pain killer (tramadol or something like that). I know I have had a
> silent gallstone for about 25 years. Well, the doctor thinks this time
> it might not be so silent. At least it isn't a heart problem. We got
> home at 1:30 AM (not bad -- I sure didn't want to spend the night there
> but figured I'd have to in order to exclude a heart problem --
> apparently it is not that).
>
> I am now at work and we have scheduled an ultrasound of the abdomen for
> later today. Unfortunately, nothing whatsoever to eat or drink for 8
> hours, so I have had nothing since last night. I also didn't sleep at
> all due to the pain and I am still in pain.
> I still wonder if this is some kind of weird trapped gas. I have been
> burping/belching a lot but it isn't helping. It is pain and pressure
> almost symmetrical but centered at the center. Last night it also went
> into my upper back.
>
>
>
> And it just got worse:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> The screw is tightening. After teaching today and having nothing to eat
> or drink since 2:00 AM, I went in for my ultrasound today at 3:30.
>
> After the test, the technician came out and said she spoke to the
> radiologist and I had to go right back into the ER. So, the next 3-4
> hours are spent waiting around in the ER room. Finally the doctor said
> the ultrasound showed a thickening of the gall bladder, which is not
> good. He suggested immediate surgery. But he said if I want I could go
> home and see what happens, but I've been in pain for over 24 hours so it
> probably will not resolve. Meanwhile, 17 ambulances showed up due to a
> 60-car pileup on I75. I decided to go home. I can come back tomorrow,
> rather than wait around for who knows how long while they deal with more
> serious situations. Also, I didn't want to deal with an emergency
> surgery from some surgeon I don't even know. When I got home, I
> contacted my family doctor. He said I did the right thing. It did turn
> out that the surgeon on call was super top-notch, so I'll try and see
> him on an elective basis...unless I have to say uncle tomorrow.
> Mel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> It is now Sunday night. Yesterday the pain had improved by 90%.
>
> Today I ate some more, including some low fat foods and the pain is back
> about 50%. I've also been running a low grade fever 99-100.
>
> So, time to see a surgeon at least for a consultation.
> Mel
Gourd:

Silent means they are there but are not causing problems. I have had
this gallstone for 25 years and it never caused a problem.
I am still not convinced it's that, but it probably is.

I have an appointment to see this surgeon for 1 week. By then I'll see
how I'm doing. I've been eating non-fat stuff now (healthy, anyway). The
pain is greatly diminished but I stil have this annoying low-grade fever

Mel

[Steve Kramer]

Geez, Mel.

I am at a loss for words.

At least gall surgery a damned site better than it was 20 years ago.



PSA OCT 2000 @ 46
Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c
RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7), T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years
Lupron started JULY 2003 @ 48
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
PSA <0.1 since Next draw AUG 2012 @ 57
Illegitimati non carborundum




"MZB" wrote in message news:jha6ik$l4g$[email protected]..

Things aren't going well at all.

Now, time for a real whine. If I didn't have PC, maybe I would just
consider this a bad streak. But, honestly, I feel like an old car in
okay condition, but continually having parts just go. That's probably
exactly how it is!!

Recently I had an eye problem (recheck on that in 2 1/2 weeks).

Anyway, Thursday night I had a great chicken dinner. I was hungry and
ate quite a bit of the broiled chicken (including dark meat). 90 minutes
later I was snacking on some pistachio nuts when all of a sudden I
started experiencing significant abdominal pain/pressure. It was
terrible. Usually, alka seltzer or rolaids works quickly when I get gas
but this was different. They didn't help. When I started sweating. I
even got concerned about a heart problem. So, after 2 1/2 hours, I said
take me to the ER. We got there at 11:00 PM. Bottom line: I was IVed
some pain killer (tramadol or something like that). I know I have had a
silent gallstone for about 25 years. Well, the doctor thinks this time
it might not be so silent. At least it isn't a heart problem. We got
home at 1:30 AM (not bad -- I sure didn't want to spend the night there
but figured I'd have to in order to exclude a heart problem --
apparently it is not that).

I am now at work and we have scheduled an ultrasound of the abdomen for
later today. Unfortunately, nothing whatsoever to eat or drink for 8
hours, so I have had nothing since last night. I also didn't sleep at
all due to the pain and I am still in pain.
I still wonder if this is some kind of weird trapped gas. I have been
burping/belching a lot but it isn't helping. It is pain and pressure
almost symmetrical but centered at the center. Last night it also went
into my upper back.



And it just got worse:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The screw is tightening. After teaching today and having nothing to eat
or drink since 2:00 AM, I went in for my ultrasound today at 3:30.

After the test, the technician came out and said she spoke to the
radiologist and I had to go right back into the ER. So, the next 3-4
hours are spent waiting around in the ER room. Finally the doctor said
the ultrasound showed a thickening of the gall bladder, which is not
good. He suggested immediate surgery. But he said if I want I could go
home and see what happens, but I've been in pain for over 24 hours so it
probably will not resolve. Meanwhile, 17 ambulances showed up due to a
60-car pileup on I75. I decided to go home. I can come back tomorrow,
rather than wait around for who knows how long while they deal with more
serious situations. Also, I didn't want to deal with an emergency
surgery from some surgeon I don't even know. When I got home, I
contacted my family doctor. He said I did the right thing. It did turn
out that the surgeon on call was super top-notch, so I'll try and see
him on an elective basis...unless I have to say uncle tomorrow.
Mel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It is now Sunday night. Yesterday the pain had improved by 90%.

Today I ate some more, including some low fat foods and the pain is back
about 50%. I've also been running a low grade fever 99-100.

So, time to see a surgeon at least for a consultation.
Mel

[c palmer]

From: [email protected] (MZB)

Things aren't going well at all.
Now, time for a real whine. If I didn't have PC, maybe I would just
consider this a bad streak. But, honestly, I feel like an old car in
okay condition, but continually having parts just go. That's probably
exactly how it is!!

Recently I had an eye problem (recheck on that in 2 1/2 weeks).
Anyway, Thursday night I had a great chicken dinner. I was hungry and
ate quite a bit of the broiled chicken (including dark meat). 90 minutes
later I was snacking on some pistachio nuts when all of a sudden I
started experiencing significant abdominal pain/pressure. It was
terrible. Usually, alka seltzer or rolaids works quickly when I get gas
but this was different. They didn't help. When I started sweating. I
even got concerned about a heart problem. So, after 2 1/2 hours, I said
take me to the ER. We got there at 11:00 PM. Bottom line: I was IVed
some pain killer (tramadol or something like that). I know I have had a
silent gallstone for about 25 years. Well, the doctor thinks this time
it might not be so silent. At least it isn't a heart problem. We got
home at 1:30 AM (not bad -- I sure didn't want to spend the night there
but figured I'd have to in order to exclude a heart problem --
apparently it is not that).

I am now at work and we have scheduled an ultrasound of the abdomen for
later today. Unfortunately, nothing whatsoever to eat or drink for 8
hours, so I have had nothing since last night. I also didn't sleep at
all due to the pain and I am still in pain. I still wonder if this is
some kind of weird trapped gas. I have been burping/belching a lot but
it isn't helping. It is pain and pressure almost symmetrical but
centered at the center. Last night it also went into my upper back.

And it just got worse:
The screw is tightening. After teaching today and having nothing to eat
or drink since 2:00 AM, I went in for my ultrasound today at 3:30.

After the test, the technician came out and said she spoke to the
radiologist and I had to go right back into the ER. So, the next 3-4
hours are spent waiting around in the ER room. Finally the doctor said
the ultrasound showed a thickening of the gall bladder, which is not
good. He suggested immediate surgery. But he said if I want I could go
home and see what happens, but I've been in pain for over 24 hours so it
probably will not resolve. Meanwhile, 17 ambulances showed up due to a
60-car pileup on I75. I decided to go home. I can come back tomorrow,
rather than wait around for who knows how long while they deal with more
serious situations. Also, I didn't want to deal with an emergency
surgery from some surgeon I don't even know. When I got home, I
contacted my family doctor. He said I did the right thing. It did turn
out that the surgeon on call was super top-notch, so I'll try and see
him on an elective basis...unless I have to say uncle tomorrow. Mel

It is now Sunday night. Yesterday the pain had improved by 90%.
Today I ate some more, including some low fat foods and the pain is back
about 50%. I've also been running a low grade fever 99-100.
So, time to see a surgeon at least for a consultation. Mel


===> mel - my wife had a bum gall bladder for years before she finally
got it taken out. was a piece of cake with today's surgery techniques.
a little discomfort after surgery, no major pain. and she eats pretty
much what she wants to....

hope this information helps...

~ curtis

[I.P. Freely]

c palmer wrote:
>
> my wife had a bum gall bladder

Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. ;-)

I.P.

[c palmer]

From: [email protected] (I.P.*Freely)

c palmer wrote:
my wife had a bum gall bladder


Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. * ;-)

I.P.

===> could be.... could be.... )

lord knows... i've been told enough times in my life that my head must
be up there there too..... maybe, that's the reason why a lot of
people get headaches and don't know what's causing it? should we tell
them that they got a bum headache??
))))))

[MZB]

On 2/14/2012 4:33 PM, I.P. Freely wrote:
> c palmer wrote:
>>
>> my wife had a bum gall bladder
>
> Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
> it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. ;-)
>
> I.P.
Now THAT'S FUNNY!!!
Still getting significant fevers about 2 hours after eating (not much
gut pain -- the real test would be for me to eat a high fat meal - that
would tell me if the problem is GB.

[MZB]

On 2/14/2012 11:32 PM, c palmer wrote:
> From: [email protected] (I.P. Freely)
>
> c palmer wrote:
> my wife had a bum gall bladder
>
>
> Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
> it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. ;-)
>
> I.P.
>
> ===> could be.... could be.... )
>
> lord knows... i've been told enough times in my life that my head must
> be up there there too..... maybe, that's the reason why a lot of
> people get headaches and don't know what's causing it? should we tell
> them that they got a bum headache??
> ))))))
>
>
>
Then how do you explain a bum knee?

Please don't!

Mel

[c palmer]

From: [email protected] (MZB)

On 2/14/2012 11:32 PM, c palmer wrote:
From: [email protected] (I.P. Freely)

c palmer wrote:
my wife had a bum gall bladder
Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. * ;-)
I.P.

===> could be.... could be.... * )
lord knows... i've been told enough times in my life that my head must
be up there there too..... * maybe, that's the reason why a lot of
people get headaches and don't know what's causing it? * should we
tell them that they got a bum headache??
))))))

Then how do you explain a bum knee?
Please don't!
Mel

===> oh....mel..... being the 'sick bastard' that i am, i guess i
could.... explain it, that is...

do you remember back when you were younger and made some of those, how
shall we say it?'.... not so bright decisions and you were kicking
yourself????? you just got carried away....... ))

of course, having the bum knee is better than having the bum headache -
right?
)

now, here's the next question comes to mind..... how or what does
someone do to you when they hand you a bum steer???

ouch... !!!! that's gotta hurt....

[MZB]

On 2/15/2012 6:27 AM, c palmer wrote:
> From: [email protected] (MZB)
>
> On 2/14/2012 11:32 PM, c palmer wrote:
> From: [email protected] (I.P. Freely)
>
> c palmer wrote:
> my wife had a bum gall bladder
> Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
> it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. ;-)
> I.P.
>
> ===> could be.... could be.... )
> lord knows... i've been told enough times in my life that my head must
> be up there there too..... maybe, that's the reason why a lot of
> people get headaches and don't know what's causing it? should we
> tell them that they got a bum headache??
> ))))))
>
> Then how do you explain a bum knee?
> Please don't!
> Mel
>
> ===> oh....mel..... being the 'sick bastard' that i am, i guess i
> could.... explain it, that is...
>
> do you remember back when you were younger and made some of those, how
> shall we say it?'.... not so bright decisions and you were kicking
> yourself????? you just got carried away....... ))
>
> of course, having the bum knee is better than having the bum headache -
> right?
> )
>
> now, here's the next question comes to mind..... how or what does
> someone do to you when they hand you a bum steer???
>
> ouch... !!!! that's gotta hurt....
>
Unfortunately, things are not getting better. I have been running a
temperature most of the day, getting up to 100.4 (mostly under 100).

I have my routine physical tomorrow and see the surgeon on Monday.

Hope I can hold out until then.

I'm also getting weaker due to not eating much. This fat free (or
extremely low fat) seems to leave me with few choices. I'm losing
weight, but I'm going to work harder at finding more stuff to eat. This
is tough on my wife, too

Mel

[I.P. Freely]

MZB wrote
>
> I'm also getting weaker due to not eating much. This fat free (or
> extremely low fat) seems to leave me with few choices. I'm losing
> weight, but I'm going to work harder at finding more stuff to eat. This
> is tough on my wife, too

A friend of mine in his 70s has eaten essentially zero fat in the 16
years since he was airlifted off a ski slope into a quad bypass. He
still winters in Baja ... windsurfing. Surely it's not THAT difficult;
you should be able to stuff your face on fruits, veggies, whey/casein
powder for protein ... heck, add carefully selected lean meats and
that's what I eat all the time. Have you Googled gallbladder diets for
ideas and menus?:


I.P.

[MZB]

On 2/15/2012 9:30 PM, I.P. Freely wrote:
> MZB wrote
>>
>> I'm also getting weaker due to not eating much. This fat free (or
>> extremely low fat) seems to leave me with few choices. I'm losing
>> weight, but I'm going to work harder at finding more stuff to eat. This
>> is tough on my wife, too
>
> A friend of mine in his 70s has eaten essentially zero fat in the 16
> years since he was airlifted off a ski slope into a quad bypass. He
> still winters in Baja ... windsurfing. Surely it's not THAT difficult;
> you should be able to stuff your face on fruits, veggies, whey/casein
> powder for protein ... heck, add carefully selected lean meats and
> that's what I eat all the time. Have you Googled gallbladder diets for
> ideas and menus?:
>
>
> I.P.
IP:

I have whey protein and I used to make good shakes, but the protein has
fat, but not much (4 gms) so I'll reconsider that. The main problem
right now is the fever.

We are going to look at lean meats also.

Mel

[MZB]

On 2/14/2012 11:57 PM, MZB wrote:
> On 2/14/2012 4:33 PM, I.P. Freely wrote:
>> c palmer wrote:
>>>
>>> my wife had a bum gall bladder
>>
>> Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
>> it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. ;-)
>>
>> I.P.
> Now THAT'S FUNNY!!!
> Still getting significant fevers about 2 hours after eating (not much
> gut pain -- the real test would be for me to eat a high fat meal - that
> would tell me if the problem is GB.

UPDATE -- surgery tomorrow!!

Mel

[Sue Mullen]

On 2/16/2012 9:28 PM, MZB wrote:

> UPDATE -- surgery tomorrow!!

Good luck, hope the surgery goes well.

sue - off on a cruise very soon!!

[Steve Kramer]

Since I'm a day behind, you must be feeling much better now!



PSA OCT 2000 @ 46
Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c
RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7), T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years
Lupron started JULY 2003 @ 48
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
PSA <0.1 since Next draw AUG 2012 @ 57
Illegitimati non carborundum




"MZB" wrote in message news:jhke0c$rb$[email protected]..

On 2/14/2012 11:57 PM, MZB wrote:
> On 2/14/2012 4:33 PM, I.P. Freely wrote:
>> c palmer wrote:
>>>
>>> my wife had a bum gall bladder
>>
>> Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
>> it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. ;-)
>>
>> I.P.
> Now THAT'S FUNNY!!!
> Still getting significant fevers about 2 hours after eating (not much
> gut pain -- the real test would be for me to eat a high fat meal - that
> would tell me if the problem is GB.

UPDATE -- surgery tomorrow!!

Mel

[MZB]

On 2/17/2012 6:16 PM, Steve Kramer wrote:
> Since I'm a day behind, you must be feeling much better now!
>
>
>
> PSA OCT 2000 @ 46 Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7),
> T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
> EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years Lupron
> started JULY 2003 @ 48 PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
> Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
> PSA <0.1 since Next draw AUG 2012 @ 57
> Illegitimati non carborundum
>
>
>
> "MZB" wrote in message news:jhke0c$rb$[email protected]..
> On 2/14/2012 11:57 PM, MZB wrote:
>> On 2/14/2012 4:33 PM, I.P. Freely wrote:
>>> c palmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> my wife had a bum gall bladder
>>>
>>> Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
>>> it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. ;-)
>>>
>>> I.P.
>> Now THAT'S FUNNY!!!
>> Still getting significant fevers about 2 hours after eating (not much
>> gut pain -- the real test would be for me to eat a high fat meal - that
>> would tell me if the problem is GB.
>
> UPDATE -- surgery tomorrow!!
>
> Mel
Well, I am home, but things were/are rough!!

Long story, but it turned out that my family physycian might have saved
my life! After my routine physical on Thursday and after listening to me
about my symptoms (fevers), he was worried about a gb infection. He
personally called the surgeon and got me in that same day. I had surgery
Friday morning and it turned out the gb was totally gangerenous!!!

I might not have made it if I waited to see him on Monday.

I had no clue it was this bad!

Basically, what we think happened:

This stone I've had for years blocked the bile. The gb swelled and
eventually got to where it was blocking its own blood supply, causing it
to die. The sudden diminishing pain was due to the gb dying.

I was in the hospital through late Sunday. I am still in a lot of pain,
on antibiotics (cipro). Hopefully, no complications will occur

Mel

[I.P. Freely]

MZB wrote
>
> I might not have made it if I waited to see him on Monday.

Your sun is shining brightly, Mel. Many men get unnecessarily ill or
dead because they're unwilling to see a doctor. Many of those who do see
the doc see a less astute one than yours. Many of THOSE are too macho
(Spanish for "stupid") to follow through.

I.P.

[Steve Kramer]

I have never heard of anything like that. I never even considered internal
gangrene. Wow.



PSA OCT 2000 @ 46
Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c
RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7), T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years
Lupron started JULY 2003 @ 48
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
PSA <0.1 since Next draw AUG 2012 @ 57
Illegitimati non carborundum




"MZB" wrote in message news:jhv59c$8l9$[email protected]..

On 2/17/2012 6:16 PM, Steve Kramer wrote:
> Since I'm a day behind, you must be feeling much better now!
>
>
>
> PSA OCT 2000 @ 46 Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7),
> T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
> EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years Lupron
> started JULY 2003 @ 48 PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
> Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
> PSA <0.1 since Next draw AUG 2012 @ 57
> Illegitimati non carborundum
>
>
>
> "MZB" wrote in message news:jhke0c$rb$[email protected]..
> On 2/14/2012 11:57 PM, MZB wrote:
>> On 2/14/2012 4:33 PM, I.P. Freely wrote:
>>> c palmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> my wife had a bum gall bladder
>>>
>>> Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
>>> it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. ;-)
>>>
>>> I.P.
>> Now THAT'S FUNNY!!!
>> Still getting significant fevers about 2 hours after eating (not much
>> gut pain -- the real test would be for me to eat a high fat meal - that
>> would tell me if the problem is GB.
>
> UPDATE -- surgery tomorrow!!
>
> Mel
Well, I am home, but things were/are rough!!

Long story, but it turned out that my family physycian might have saved
my life! After my routine physical on Thursday and after listening to me
about my symptoms (fevers), he was worried about a gb infection. He
personally called the surgeon and got me in that same day. I had surgery
Friday morning and it turned out the gb was totally gangerenous!!!

I might not have made it if I waited to see him on Monday.

I had no clue it was this bad!

Basically, what we think happened:

This stone I've had for years blocked the bile. The gb swelled and
eventually got to where it was blocking its own blood supply, causing it
to die. The sudden diminishing pain was due to the gb dying.

I was in the hospital through late Sunday. I am still in a lot of pain,
on antibiotics (cipro). Hopefully, no complications will occur

Mel

[colin]

I think in your situation, I would be dead
you got your ducks in a row for this one

colin
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:07:05 -0500, MZB <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 2/17/2012 6:16 PM, Steve Kramer wrote:
>> Since I'm a day behind, you must be feeling much better now!
>>
>>
>>
>> PSA OCT 2000 @ 46 Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7),
>> T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
>> EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years Lupron
>> started JULY 2003 @ 48 PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
>> Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
>> PSA <0.1 since Next draw AUG 2012 @ 57
>> Illegitimati non carborundum
>>
>>
>>
>> "MZB" wrote in message news:jhke0c$rb$[email protected]..
>> On 2/14/2012 11:57 PM, MZB wrote:
>>> On 2/14/2012 4:33 PM, I.P. Freely wrote:
>>>> c palmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> my wife had a bum gall bladder
>>>>
>>>> Now, that's a strange place for any gall bladder, healthy or not. Maybe
>>>> it hurt BECAUSE SHE WAS SITTING ON IT. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I.P.
>>> Now THAT'S FUNNY!!!
>>> Still getting significant fevers about 2 hours after eating (not much
>>> gut pain -- the real test would be for me to eat a high fat meal - that
>>> would tell me if the problem is GB.
>>
>> UPDATE -- surgery tomorrow!!
>>
>> Mel
>Well, I am home, but things were/are rough!!
>
>Long story, but it turned out that my family physycian might have saved
>my life! After my routine physical on Thursday and after listening to me
>about my symptoms (fevers), he was worried about a gb infection. He
>personally called the surgeon and got me in that same day. I had surgery
>Friday morning and it turned out the gb was totally gangerenous!!!
>
>I might not have made it if I waited to see him on Monday.
>
>I had no clue it was this bad!
>
>Basically, what we think happened:
>
>This stone I've had for years blocked the bile. The gb swelled and
>eventually got to where it was blocking its own blood supply, causing it
>to die. The sudden diminishing pain was due to the gb dying.
>
>I was in the hospital through late Sunday. I am still in a lot of pain,
>on antibiotics (cipro). Hopefully, no complications will occur
>
>Mel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>