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Old 04-10-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Brain tumour, grade 2 glioma, Dr. Simoncini's sodium bicarbonate therapy

Hi, got grade II brain tumour (glioma).
Wanted to give my testimonial to whom wanted to know about this new
therapy.
Started Simoncini's therapy (24 drips (500ml = 1pint) of sodium
bicarbonate) 2 months ago.
All drips self administered as no medical practitioner accepted to do it.
Scary the first time. Not easy to get to the vein the first times either:
got an arm like a battlefield.

At the moment waiting for the MRI scan. Will let you know if tumour
shrank. Symptoms (partial epileptic attacks) are of reduced intensity.
A note: I had been adviced by doctors that such a big amount of sodium
bicarbonate would have made my brain to swell and bleed. Bull#!%&! The
only side effect I had was that I was feeling thirsty (I reckon due to the
high concentration of carbon dioxide in my blood).
Bought Sodium Bicarbonate in a country where no prescription needed.
P.S. Dr. Simoncini's theory states that all tumours are caused by candida
and sodium bicarbonate destroys candida colonies (it is a social
organism)


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Old 04-10-2007, 08:56 PM
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plasticanet wrote:

> Hi, got grade II brain tumour (glioma).
> Wanted to give my testimonial to whom wanted to know about this new
> therapy.
> Started Simoncini's therapy (24 drips (500ml = 1pint) of sodium
> bicarbonate) 2 months ago.
> All drips self administered as no medical practitioner accepted to do it.
> Scary the first time. Not easy to get to the vein the first times either:
> got an arm like a battlefield.
>
> At the moment waiting for the MRI scan. Will let you know if tumour
> shrank. Symptoms (partial epileptic attacks) are of reduced intensity.
> A note: I had been adviced by doctors that such a big amount of sodium
> bicarbonate would have made my brain to swell and bleed. Bull#!%&! The
> only side effect I had was that I was feeling thirsty (I reckon due to the
> high concentration of carbon dioxide in my blood).
> Bought Sodium Bicarbonate in a country where no prescription needed.
> P.S. Dr. Simoncini's theory states that all tumours are caused by candida
> and sodium bicarbonate destroys candida colonies (it is a social
> organism)


Gives new meaning to "folks, this is your brain on.....
baking soda". Arm and Hammer might be interested in hearing from you.
Cancer's not a fungus; you need your head examined.
Wait ! They already have and said you have a tumor.
Better get it (surgically) removed, if possible.

I hope there's someone else (an oncologist) ordering your MRi's and keeping
track of your tumor .
I'm guessing you'll never get it up on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bicarbonate
J


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Old 04-11-2007, 09:39 PM
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Hi J,
Neurosurgeons have (honestly) told me that even if they remove it, there
is no much hope. And if I have to die I don't want to live the rest of my
time half paralyzed.
Therefore I have nothing to loose... I am giving it a go. 24 drips had
done no harm so far. Maybe the tumour hasn't shrunk, maybe it has. I will
let you know after next MRI.

Regarding the tumour being a fungus, Simoncini's theory does not say that;
it states that fungi are the etiological cause of it. In other words, a
candida infection (which is found in 90-95% of cancer cases) forces the
body to the last defence: wrap the infection using normal cells. Cells
mutate in order to fight the candida colonies. (See this research:
http://www.cancerprev.org/Journal/Issues/28/1/4855 as an example).
When the colonies manage to outbreak the cyst, they spread causing
metastasis.
Well, this is the theory, a theory that sounds much more real to me than
the "random genetic mutation" (with unnumerable causes) which would always
stop apoptosis.
Stef

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Old 04-11-2007, 09:39 PM
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plasticanet wrote:

> Hi J,
> Neurosurgeons have (honestly) told me that even if they remove it, there
> is no much hope. And if I have to die I don't want to live the rest of my
> time half paralyzed.
> Therefore I have nothing to loose... I am giving it a go. 24 drips had
> done no harm so far. Maybe the tumour hasn't shrunk, maybe it has. I will
> let you know after next MRI.
>
> Regarding the tumour being a fungus, Simoncini's theory does not say that;
> it states that fungi are the etiological cause of it. In other words, a
> candida infection (which is found in 90-95% of cancer cases) forces the
> body to the last defence: wrap the infection using normal cells. Cells
> mutate in order to fight the candida colonies. (See this research:
> http://www.cancerprev.org/Journal/Issues/28/1/4855 as an example).
> When the colonies manage to outbreak the cyst, they spread causing
> metastasis.
> Well, this is the theory, a theory that sounds much more real to me than
> the "random genetic mutation" (with unnumerable causes) which would always
> stop apoptosis.
> Stef


Stef,
That's a scam webpage make to look like a credible one.
There's no such thing as "International Society for Preventive Oncology"
It's true that cancer cells are mutated, so (they) no longer look like benign
ones.

What country are you in please? And what neurosurgeons (centre) were you seen
at please?
I just want to make sure you've been given the best advice by your
neurosurgeons.
So I'm looking for the country, state, if US, and the name of the centre (not
surgeon names)
J


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Old 04-11-2007, 09:39 PM
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:04:15 -0400, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:

>plasticanet wrote:
>
>> Hi J,
>> Neurosurgeons have (honestly) told me that even if they remove it, there
>> is no much hope. And if I have to die I don't want to live the rest of my
>> time half paralyzed.
>> Therefore I have nothing to loose... I am giving it a go. 24 drips had
>> done no harm so far. Maybe the tumour hasn't shrunk, maybe it has. I will
>> let you know after next MRI.
>>
>> Regarding the tumour being a fungus, Simoncini's theory does not say that;
>> it states that fungi are the etiological cause of it. In other words, a
>> candida infection (which is found in 90-95% of cancer cases) forces the
>> body to the last defence: wrap the infection using normal cells. Cells
>> mutate in order to fight the candida colonies. (See this research:
>> http://www.cancerprev.org/Journal/Issues/28/1/4855 as an example).


According to this abstract metastatic breast cancer cells seem to be
able to phagocytize Candida, but your conclusion is wrong: there is no
evidence that Candida would cause normal cells to mutate and become
malignant.

>> When the colonies manage to outbreak the cyst, they spread causing
>> metastasis.
>> Well, this is the theory, a theory that sounds much more real to me than
>> the "random genetic mutation" (with unnumerable causes) which would always
>> stop apoptosis.
>> Stef

>
>Stef,
>That's a scam webpage make to look like a credible one.


What page? <http://www.cancerprev.org/Journal/Issues/28/1/4855>?

That's a copy of legit peer-reviewed Medline study, whose reference is

Ghoneum M, Gollapudi S.
Phagocytosis of Candida albicans by metastatic and non metastatic
human breast cancer cell lines in vitro.
Cancer Detect Prev. 2004;28(1):17-26.
PMID: 15041073 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
doi:10.1016/j.cdp.2003.10.001
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlu s&list_uids=15041073>

The original version of this abstract, published online in _Cancer
Detection and Prevention_ journal on 5 March 2004 can be found at
sciencedirect.com page <http://tinyurl.com/36ee5a>

The home page of _Cancer Detection and Prevention_ journal is

<http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/0361090X>

This journal is apparently owned by The International Society for
Preventive Oncology, so it probably has right to publish copies of
this journal's abstracts on its web site <http://www.cancerprev.org/>

>There's no such thing as "International Society for Preventive Oncology"


Looks very legit organization to me. See for example NCBI page

<http://tinyurl.com/368yhh>
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...tect%20Prev%22[ta]>

Elsevier's page

<http://intl.elsevierhealth.com/societies/socpartners.cfm>

and World Health Organization's (WHO) page

<http://www.who.int/civilsociety/relations/official_relations/en/>


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Old 04-12-2007, 03:14 AM
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"plasticanet" <stefano.rocks@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi J,
> Neurosurgeons have (honestly) told me that even if they remove it, there
> is no much hope. And if I have to die I don't want to live the rest of my
> time half paralyzed.
> Therefore I have nothing to loose... I am giving it a go. 24 drips had
> done no harm so far. Maybe the tumour hasn't shrunk, maybe it has. I will
> let you know after next MRI.
>
> Regarding the tumour being a fungus, Simoncini's theory does not say that;
> it states that fungi are the etiological cause of it. In other words, a
> candida infection (which is found in 90-95% of cancer cases) forces the
> body to the last defence: wrap the infection using normal cells. Cells
> mutate in order to fight the candida colonies. (See this research:
> http://www.cancerprev.org/Journal/Issues/28/1/4855 as an example).
> When the colonies manage to outbreak the cyst, they spread causing
> metastasis.
> Well, this is the theory, a theory that sounds much more real to me than
> the "random genetic mutation" (with unnumerable causes) which would always
> stop apoptosis.
> Stef
>


Stef, it's just mumbo-jumbo.
Candida is common in cancer patients (and other sick people). So is water.
93% of a cancer patient is water, so water must be the culprit, right


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Old 04-14-2007, 07:26 AM
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I live in the UK. The neurosurgeons are glioma-experts.
They didn't prescribe chemio or radio because the glioma is too big (it is
bigger than a plum and smaller than an apple).
They said I could undergo surgery if I want to but thay also added that
there are contradictory statistics about if you live longer after surgery;
so I declined.

In this situation I decided to take the risk and I think I have done the
best thing so far.
Before the treatment my daily seizures were so strong that I had to lay
down for a couple of minutes, fainting. Now they have significantly
improved as they have become just a bit stronger than a tingle. Only the
MRI scan will say the truth.
Next appointment with neurosurgeon is in May; he will probably prescribe
one. I will have another 6 drips the week before the scan.

About the candida being the cause of tumours, let me add that the fact
candida is almost always present inside tumours doesn't proof it is the
cause, but it is a clue.
I didn't think for a minute that the candida mutates into a tumour. It is
simply an infection that triggers the cell mutation. I will not deny that
there is a mutation, what I don't believe is , as modern oncology says,
that there are countless causes. In more than a century the genetic theory
hasn't found the cause of tumours. Maybe we (as a civilisation) are on the
wrong path.

On the other hand the evidence of people cured with bicarbonate have
impressed me.
I met Dr. Simoncini in Rome in October and he is a decent person. He
doesn't have a clinic and is not doing it for profit. Of all the doctors
that claim they found a cure, he is the only one I found who published
medical redords and scans of people who has recovered completely. There
is an interview of one of his first patients, a gentleman who survived a
lung cancer without any radio or chemio and after 20 years is still alive
(in Italian though).

Here are the links:
http://www.curenaturalicancro.org/ <- this is in Italian. You can use
Google's language tools to browse it in English:
http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

See also:
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/
for the medical records and scans.

the published introduction of his recently released book:
http://www.cancerisafungus.com/cancer-fungus-intro.html


One more thing about the candida infection. Candida is a very complex
organism, it is a bit like the T-1000 (Terminator), it can break down in
single cells or even yeast or become a multicellular organism. When it is
in the split form, our organism can attack it, but when it becomes a
multicellular organism (cells stick together and even transfer nuclei from
cell to cell when one is attacked to survive) it is like having a big
animal inside. In this configuration our normal defences cannot do
anything but create a big cyst around the infection: the tumour.
Bicarbonate destroys the colonies breaking down the multicellular
configuration and leaving the single cells isolated and exposed to the
immune system. There is a lot of bibliography in agricolture about use of
bicarbonate to eradicate fungi.

It is just a theory, but I think it is worth that somebody does some
research in this direction. Of course pharmaceutical companies have no
interest in it, as thay cannot patent baking soda.
My hope is that some indipendent centres will start a proper scientific
research.

In the meanwhile, there are cases that can be treated without any
prescription or research: mouth and stomach tumour/cancers.

From Simoncini's book, briefly reported.
For mouth cancers, if they are exposed, you can wash your mouth with a
solution of water and baking soda (sodium bicarbonate).
A spoon and a half of Sodium Bicarbonate in a glass of water. Mouth wash
twice a day, 30 minutes before breakfast and before dinner. For 10 days.
Wait a week. Another 10 days.

For stomach cancers, a glass of water with 1 spoon of baking soda half an
hour before breakfast and before dinner for 15 days. Then in the morning
only for the next 30 days. Roll on a bed to let the solution to get in
touch with all the stomach walls.

For other tumours, Simoncini invented a tecnique to spill the solution on
the tumour through permanent cateters in veins but you need a doctor to
do that.

Hope this will triggeer some interest

Ste


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Old 04-14-2007, 07:26 AM
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"plasticanet" <stefano.rocks@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
news:1ec2bf2d7cff73ea722745bb65be0932@localhost.ta lkaboutsupport.com...
>I live in the UK. The neurosurgeons are glioma-experts.
> They didn't prescribe chemio or radio because the glioma is too big (it is
> bigger than a plum and smaller than an apple).
> They said I could undergo surgery if I want to but thay also added that
> there are contradictory statistics about if you live longer after surgery;
> so I declined.
>
> In this situation I decided to take the risk and I think I have done the
> best thing so far.
> Before the treatment my daily seizures were so strong that I had to lay
> down for a couple of minutes, fainting. Now they have significantly
> improved as they have become just a bit stronger than a tingle. Only the
> MRI scan will say the truth.
> Next appointment with neurosurgeon is in May; he will probably prescribe
> one. I will have another 6 drips the week before the scan.
>
> About the candida being the cause of tumours, let me add that the fact
> candida is almost always present inside tumours doesn't proof it is the
> cause, but it is a clue.


It almost always is NOT present in tumours. It is quite a common infection
on the surface of epitrhelial tumours, because candida is a common commensal
on epithelial surfaces.

> I didn't think for a minute that the candida mutates into a tumour. It is
> simply an infection that triggers the cell mutation. I will not deny that
> there is a mutation, what I don't believe is , as modern oncology says,
> that there are countless causes. In more than a century the genetic theory
> hasn't found the cause of tumours. Maybe we (as a civilisation) are on the
> wrong path.
>


On the contrary, we know MANY causes of cancer.
The candida story is nonsense

> On the other hand the evidence of people cured with bicarbonate have
> impressed me.


There is no evidence, only anecdote.

> I met Dr. Simoncini in Rome in October and he is a decent person. He
> doesn't have a clinic and is not doing it for profit. Of all the doctors
> that claim they found a cure, he is the only one I found who published
> medical redords and scans of people who has recovered completely. There
> is an interview of one of his first patients, a gentleman who survived a
> lung cancer without any radio or chemio and after 20 years is still alive
> (in Italian though).
>



Most of these kinds of cures are misdiagnoses, with no pathology reports.


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Old 06-11-2008, 01:12 PM
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I would like a current update on the individual who tried this therapy. The close-mindedness of some of the posts is startling to me. The fact of the matter is that we do not know what causes cancer. We all have many abnormal cells in out bodies on a daily basis. Our own immune systems deal with them effectively and like goes on. The study should be why we fail at times to control our own cells.

I have looked at many alternative treatments. Many of the ones that seem to have the best success seem to have one common thread. When we think about hypobaric, alkaline diet, Rife machine, etc, whether known or not by the proponents, they all appear to fight fungus. If Candida or other fungus is protecting the cancer cells from you own immune system, their destruction will, providing your own immune system hasn't been too compromised, take over and finish up the job.

When we study the limited success of chemo, radiation and surgery to effectively treat late stage cancer, we should retain an open mind.

Certainly what we are currently using isn't the answer
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