cancer

Found out I had cancer about 3 months ago in my stomach with no hope of
surgery, the pet scan showed more other places and I ask not to get all
the details just yet from the doctor.

I was treated for a ulcer for months until I insisted on a lower G/I.,
it showed two masses (1cm and one 5 cm).

I went through all the tests including the pet scan suggested my 2nd
opinion doctor.

2 months or so was my time left, do chemo etc. I had a 25% chance of 2
to 3 years, I opted to ride it out to the end with no chemo/radiation, a
hard decision I assure you...I am now in my last week or so and I
suppose the worst of it all there is no support group here that a person
could meet with on a regular bases, it busted up for some unknown reason.

Loneliness and the uncertain at times is so hard, just wanted to stop by
and say I will be in and out as long as I can.

Thanks for listening

Marvin Steward
Texas

Marvin wrote:

> Found out I had cancer about 3 months ago in my stomach with no hope of
> surgery, the pet scan showed more other places and I ask not to get all
> the details just yet from the doctor.
>
> I was treated for a ulcer for months until I insisted on a lower G/I.,
> it showed two masses (1cm and one 5 cm).
>
> I went through all the tests including the pet scan suggested my 2nd
> opinion doctor.
>
> 2 months or so was my time left, do chemo etc. I had a 25% chance of 2
> to 3 years, I opted to ride it out to the end with no chemo/radiation, a
> hard decision I assure you...I am now in my last week or so and I
> suppose the worst of it all there is no support group here that a person
> could meet with on a regular bases, it busted up for some unknown reason.
>
> Loneliness and the uncertain at times is so hard, just wanted to stop by
> and say I will be in and out as long as I can.
>
> Thanks for listening
>
> Marvin Steward
> Texas

Hello Marvin and welcome.
You won't be so alone with us here.
I'm sorry to hear about your cancer.

While here, you will need to learn how to use your "message filters" in your
software.
Filter out posters who post long posts.
And filter out off topics including the current political one. Uusally a
person has to copy and paste the poster's name (or phrase) into the filters
section, which might be in "Edit" on your newsreader.

I would suggest that you try it with i_tell_it_like_it_is_1@yahoo.com and
Elizabeth Edwards
and see if that clears out a bunch of posts for you.

Or when you get to a message in a topic not of interest to you
"To ignore a message thread:
1. Select a message in the thread.
2. Open the Message menu, and choose Ignore Thread. Mozilla Mail &
Newsgroups marks all messages in the thread as read, and new replies posted
to the thread will appear as read."

That Message Menu place might also have an "ignore Poster" option as well.
(which could be easier than copying and pasting)

I don't know where you are, in Texas, nor do I live there, nor do you say
which support group closed.

I have a general Texas resources list you could look through
http://www.txcancer.org/scripts/mgwns.html
What popped out at me, there, was "crisis lines". They're sometimes a good
listening ear; if they have a crisis, they'll sometimes ask you to call back
before their shift end, to continue the conversation or might tell you better
times to call them, so they can dedicate more time with you.

The Salvation Army has meetings - check your phone book or that list above,
for the closest one to you.

The United Way, in your phone book, might know of support groups, close to
you.

Your local American Cancer Society office might know if they've trained
someone local recently that you may call to find out if there's a group
suited for you.

Medical centers often have pastoral care. Call the one closest to you, or the
one where you had the testing done.

I've found a few and will post the links, in case one or the other helps.

SW Texas http://www.swtexaslive.com/node/3803

New Stage IV Cancer Support Group for Relatives/Caregivers - North of
Houston
1st and 3rd Thursday of each month – 6 p.m. - Cancer Center
http://www.woodlandsonline.com/evps/...cfm?evid=12980
Meeting place and times and phone number is mentioned there.

I'll be watching for your posts and thinking of you.
J

> Loneliness and the uncertain at times is so hard, just wanted to stop by
> and say I will be in and out as long as I can.
>
> Thanks for listening
>
> Marvin Steward
> Texas
>
Hi Marvin,
hope I can offer a friendly ear and a bit of support for you long distance
(I'm in England, so awake at those very early hours of the morning when
Texas normally sleeps). Hopefully one of the groups J's mentioned can give
you some in-person support too.
HH

J wrote:

> Marvin wrote:
>
>
>>Found out I had cancer about 3 months ago in my stomach with no hope of
>>surgery, the pet scan showed more other places and I ask not to get all
>>the details just yet from the doctor.
>>
>>I was treated for a ulcer for months until I insisted on a lower G/I.,
>>it showed two masses (1cm and one 5 cm).
>>
>>I went through all the tests including the pet scan suggested my 2nd
>>opinion doctor.
>>
>>2 months or so was my time left, do chemo etc. I had a 25% chance of 2
>>to 3 years, I opted to ride it out to the end with no chemo/radiation, a
>>hard decision I assure you...I am now in my last week or so and I
>>suppose the worst of it all there is no support group here that a person
>>could meet with on a regular bases, it busted up for some unknown reason.
>>
>>Loneliness and the uncertain at times is so hard, just wanted to stop by
>>and say I will be in and out as long as I can.
>>
>>Thanks for listening
>>
>>Marvin Steward
>>Texas
>
>
> Hello Marvin and welcome.
> You won't be so alone with us here.
> I'm sorry to hear about your cancer.
>
> While here, you will need to learn how to use your "message filters" in your
> software.
> Filter out posters who post long posts.
> And filter out off topics including the current political one. Uusally a
> person has to copy and paste the poster's name (or phrase) into the filters
> section, which might be in "Edit" on your newsreader.
>
> I would suggest that you try it with i_tell_it_like_it_is_1@yahoo.com and
> Elizabeth Edwards
> and see if that clears out a bunch of posts for you.
>
> Or when you get to a message in a topic not of interest to you
> "To ignore a message thread:
> 1. Select a message in the thread.
> 2. Open the Message menu, and choose Ignore Thread. Mozilla Mail &
> Newsgroups marks all messages in the thread as read, and new replies posted
> to the thread will appear as read."
>
> That Message Menu place might also have an "ignore Poster" option as well.
> (which could be easier than copying and pasting)
>
> I don't know where you are, in Texas, nor do I live there, nor do you say
> which support group closed.
>
> I have a general Texas resources list you could look through
> http://www.txcancer.org/scripts/mgwns.html
> What popped out at me, there, was "crisis lines". They're sometimes a good
> listening ear; if they have a crisis, they'll sometimes ask you to call back
> before their shift end, to continue the conversation or might tell you better
> times to call them, so they can dedicate more time with you.
>
> The Salvation Army has meetings - check your phone book or that list above,
> for the closest one to you.
>
> The United Way, in your phone book, might know of support groups, close to
> you.
>
> Your local American Cancer Society office might know if they've trained
> someone local recently that you may call to find out if there's a group
> suited for you.
>
> Medical centers often have pastoral care. Call the one closest to you, or the
> one where you had the testing done.
>
> I've found a few and will post the links, in case one or the other helps.
>
> SW Texas http://www.swtexaslive.com/node/3803
>
> New Stage IV Cancer Support Group for Relatives/Caregivers - North of
> Houston
> 1st and 3rd Thursday of each month – 6 p.m. - Cancer Center
> http://www.woodlandsonline.com/evps/...cfm?evid=12980
> Meeting place and times and phone number is mentioned there.
>
> I'll be watching for your posts and thinking of you.
> J
>
J:

Would you have a list of help for Me I live in Southern Arizona. Yuma
(city) no county doesn't have anything in they way as help or support
groups. Would be willing to travel to Parker (100 miles North) or Tuscon
(125 Miles East) to talk to a support Group on a regular bsis. If there
is a support group in YUMA County I'd like to talk to them also.

Frank

J I appriciate that, I live in Denison, TX 75020.

Traveling is out mainly because of being sick so much plus the pain in
riding in any car etc, J, again thank you.

Marvin

Frank Sharkey wrote:

> J wrote:
>
>> Marvin wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Found out I had cancer about 3 months ago in my stomach with no hope of
>>> surgery, the pet scan showed more other places and I ask not to get all
>>> the details just yet from the doctor.
>>>
>>> I was treated for a ulcer for months until I insisted on a lower G/I.,
>>> it showed two masses (1cm and one 5 cm).
>>>
>>> I went through all the tests including the pet scan suggested my 2nd
>>> opinion doctor.
>>>
>>> 2 months or so was my time left, do chemo etc. I had a 25% chance of 2
>>> to 3 years, I opted to ride it out to the end with no chemo/radiation, a
>>> hard decision I assure you...I am now in my last week or so and I
>>> suppose the worst of it all there is no support group here that a person
>>> could meet with on a regular bases, it busted up for some unknown
>>> reason.
>>>
>>> Loneliness and the uncertain at times is so hard, just wanted to stop by
>>> and say I will be in and out as long as I can.
>>>
>>> Thanks for listening
>>>
>>> Marvin Steward
>>> Texas
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Marvin and welcome.
>> You won't be so alone with us here.
>> I'm sorry to hear about your cancer.
>>
>> While here, you will need to learn how to use your "message filters"
>> in your
>> software.
>> Filter out posters who post long posts.
>> And filter out off topics including the current political one. Uusally a
>> person has to copy and paste the poster's name (or phrase) into the
>> filters
>> section, which might be in "Edit" on your newsreader.
>>
>> I would suggest that you try it with i_tell_it_like_it_is_1@yahoo.com
>> and
>> Elizabeth Edwards
>> and see if that clears out a bunch of posts for you.
>>
>> Or when you get to a message in a topic not of interest to you
>> "To ignore a message thread:
>> 1. Select a message in the thread.
>> 2. Open the Message menu, and choose Ignore Thread. Mozilla Mail &
>> Newsgroups marks all messages in the thread as read, and new replies
>> posted
>> to the thread will appear as read."
>>
>> That Message Menu place might also have an "ignore Poster" option as
>> well.
>> (which could be easier than copying and pasting)
>>
>> I don't know where you are, in Texas, nor do I live there, nor do you say
>> which support group closed.
>>
>> I have a general Texas resources list you could look through
>> http://www.txcancer.org/scripts/mgwns.html
>> What popped out at me, there, was "crisis lines". They're sometimes a
>> good
>> listening ear; if they have a crisis, they'll sometimes ask you to
>> call back
>> before their shift end, to continue the conversation or might tell you
>> better
>> times to call them, so they can dedicate more time with you.
>>
>> The Salvation Army has meetings - check your phone book or that list
>> above,
>> for the closest one to you.
>>
>> The United Way, in your phone book, might know of support groups,
>> close to
>> you.
>>
>> Your local American Cancer Society office might know if they've trained
>> someone local recently that you may call to find out if there's a group
>> suited for you.
>>
>> Medical centers often have pastoral care. Call the one closest to you,
>> or the
>> one where you had the testing done.
>>
>> I've found a few and will post the links, in case one or the other helps.
>>
>> SW Texas http://www.swtexaslive.com/node/3803
>>
>> New Stage IV Cancer Support Group for Relatives/Caregivers - North of
>> Houston
>> 1st and 3rd Thursday of each month – 6 p.m. - Cancer Center
>> http://www.woodlandsonline.com/evps/...cfm?evid=12980
>> Meeting place and times and phone number is mentioned there.
>>
>> I'll be watching for your posts and thinking of you.
>> J
>>
> J:
>
> Would you have a list of help for Me I live in Southern Arizona. Yuma
> (city) no county doesn't have anything in they way as help or support
> groups. Would be willing to travel to Parker (100 miles North) or Tuscon
> (125 Miles East) to talk to a support Group on a regular bsis. If there
> is a support group in YUMA County I'd like to talk to them also.
>
> Frank
>

Thank you for the kindness

Marvin

Heckenhocker wrote:

>>Loneliness and the uncertain at times is so hard, just wanted to stop by
>>and say I will be in and out as long as I can.
>>
>>Thanks for listening
>>
>>Marvin Steward
>>Texas
>>
>
> Hi Marvin,
> hope I can offer a friendly ear and a bit of support for you long distance
> (I'm in England, so awake at those very early hours of the morning when
> Texas normally sleeps). Hopefully one of the groups J's mentioned can give
> you some in-person support too.
> HH
>
>

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:25:19 -0500, Marvin <texaschappy@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Found out I had cancer about 3 months ago in my stomach with no hope of
>surgery, the pet scan showed more other places and I ask not to get all
>the details just yet from the doctor.
>
>I was treated for a ulcer for months until I insisted on a lower G/I.,
>it showed two masses (1cm and one 5 cm).
>
>I went through all the tests including the pet scan suggested my 2nd
>opinion doctor.
>
>2 months or so was my time left, do chemo etc. I had a 25% chance of 2
>to 3 years, I opted to ride it out to the end with no chemo/radiation, a
>hard decision I assure you...I am now in my last week or so and I
>suppose the worst of it all there is no support group here that a person
>could meet with on a regular bases, it busted up for some unknown reason.
>
This is a very very long shot, but some (although not all) trials have
found that cimetidine has slightly prolonged survival either alone or
with a chemotherapeutic agent in gastric and colorectal cancers. The
mechanisms may be inhibition of angiogenesis, stimulation of immune
system, histamine ihibition, and inhibition of adhesion of cancer
cells onto the vascular endothelium (thus preventing metastases).
Cimetidine has a good safety profile, does not usually cause side
effects (I know, I've been using it), and its cheap, because its
patent has expired.


--
Matti Narkia

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 03:06:36 +0300, Matti Narkia <mna@mbnet.fi> wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:25:19 -0500, Marvin <texaschappy@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Found out I had cancer about 3 months ago in my stomach with no hope of
>>surgery, the pet scan showed more other places and I ask not to get all
>>the details just yet from the doctor.
>>
>>I was treated for a ulcer for months until I insisted on a lower G/I.,
>>it showed two masses (1cm and one 5 cm).
>>
>>I went through all the tests including the pet scan suggested my 2nd
>>opinion doctor.
>>
>>2 months or so was my time left, do chemo etc. I had a 25% chance of 2
>>to 3 years, I opted to ride it out to the end with no chemo/radiation, a
>>hard decision I assure you...I am now in my last week or so and I
>>suppose the worst of it all there is no support group here that a person
>>could meet with on a regular bases, it busted up for some unknown reason.
>>
>This is a very very long shot, but some (although not all) trials have
>found that cimetidine has slightly prolonged survival either alone or
>with a chemotherapeutic agent in gastric and colorectal cancers. The
>mechanisms may be inhibition of angiogenesis, stimulation of immune
>system, histamine ihibition, and inhibition of adhesion of cancer
>cells onto the vascular endothelium (thus preventing metastases).
>Cimetidine has a good safety profile, does not usually cause side
>effects (I know, I've been using it), and its cheap, because its
>patent has expired.

Oh, doses used have been 400 - 800 mg 2-3 times a day.


--
Matti Narkia

Marvin wrote:

> J I appriciate that, I live in Denison, TX 75020.
>
> Traveling is out mainly because of being sick so much plus the pain in
> riding in any car etc, J, again thank you.
>
> Marvin
>

Well, Denison seems to be in Grayson county.
The crisis centres seem to be just for crisis like family violence and now that
i think about it, they've opened a centre and hotline (different one from the
crisis line) for non-violent issues here, and I cannot find one for your area.

What I'm finding is Salvation army visits older persons. If I were you, I would
give them a try even if you are not "old"
http://www.salvationarmytexas.org/older.html
on the left side you have have to pick Southern, Eastern, western, Central or
all of Texas and pick the one closest to you


There's also Home hospice http://www.homehospice.org/ which has an email address
and what I hope is a phone number for the Grayson area.

This is SW Texas (which I don't know if that's where you are or not)
Start: 10 Apr 2007 - 7:00pm
End: 10 Apr 2007 - 8:30pm
Timezone: Etc/GMT-5
Cancer Support Group meets April 10 at 7 p.m. Bring a friend for GAME NIGHT.
Location: Rio Bravo Cancer & Blood, 1301 Avenue G. For more info, call 775-5800.

This is the new one North of Austin
Stage IV Cancer Support Group for Relatives/Caregivers
Apr 19, 2007
Memorial Hermann The Woodlands Hospital
NEW! Stage IV Cancer Support Group for Relatives/Caregivers
1st and 3rd Thursday of each month – 6 p.m. - Cancer Center
Hermann The Woodlands Hospital Cancer Center, 920 Medical Plaza Drive, Ste. 100
Please join us on the first and third Thursday of each month at 6 p.m. in the
Cancer Center – open to relatives/caregivers of loved ones diagnosed with Stage
IV cancer.
To RSVP please call 281-364-5655.

and the other link I provided does not work.
You have to click on this one http://www.txcancer.org/canresrce/cisq.html
Then select "all resources" and "support groups" in the white box at the bottom,
then click on"submit:" to get the list that I was pointing you to.

or select "Grayson County" and "support groups" gives me a smaller list
including
Information American Cancer Society- Fort Worth
3301 West Freeway
Fort Worth, TX 76107-5709
(817)737-9992
(800)227-2345 (toll free)
(800)227-2345 (after hours)
http://www.cancer.org
Hours 8:30 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.
Fees None
Business Type Not for Profit
Languages Spoken English, Spanish, call for additonal languages
Accessible via Public Transportation No
Eligibility Requirements Educational materials are available for everyone.
Patient services are available for cancer patients, caregivers and family
members. Must be a Texas resident.
Services Provided Cancer Survivor Services, Childhood Cancer Support,
Information and Referral, Patient Education Classes, Prevention Education,
Smoking Cessation Programs, Speech Therapy, Support Groups, Vocational
Rehabilitation Counseling, Worksite Risk Reduction Programs
Additional Assistance Housing, Transportation, Medical Equipment
Precriptions required for some services...call for more information
Counties/Area Served All counties in Texas
Organization Description Provides information and referral services, education,
and support activities for cancer patients and their families.

and Texoma Area Agency on Aging
Contact Information Texoma Area Agency on Aging
1117 Gallagher Drive, Suite 200
Sherman, TX 75090
(903)813-3505
(800)677-8264 (toll free)
jthompson@texoma.cog.tx.us
http://www.texoma.cog.tx.us
Hours 8am-5pm, M-F
Fees Suggested contribution
Eligibility Requirements Must be 60+ years of age. Must be a resident of Cooke,
Grayson, or Fannin County.
Services Provided Cancer Survivor Services, Information and Referral, Support
Groups
Additional Assistance Food, Transportation, Legal/Insurance, Medical Equipment
Support groups designed primarily for caregivers.
Counties/Area Served Cooke, Fannin, Grayson
Organization Description Information and referral, case management,benefits
counseling, advocacy nuring home ombudsman services for senior citizens.
Most Recent Update Received on 07/20/06

You're eligible for hospice help if you've less than 6 months to live? It's my
understanding that your oncologist would have to write a letter? (somebody
better check me on this or you ask the oncologist). It's my understanding that
one hospice cargiver comes in to the home, as required and maybe daily, and is
of emotional help and can keep you company for a bit. if they cannot stay for
long, ask them if they can buddy you up with someone else with whom you can
speak on the phone?

There's also maybe a pastor at a nearby church?

If I think of anything else, I'll let you know.
In the meantime we're here listening and caring.
J

Frank Sharkey wrote:

> Would you have a list of help for Me I live in Southern Arizona. Yuma
> (city) no county doesn't have anything in they way as help or support
> groups. Would be willing to travel to Parker (100 miles North) or Tuscon
> (125 Miles East) to talk to a support Group on a regular bsis. If there
> is a support group in YUMA County I'd like to talk to them also.
>
> Frank

Try this Frank http://yccc.yumaed.org/local/new_page_142.htm
Let me know, please.
J

J wrote:

> Frank Sharkey wrote:
>
> > Would you have a list of help for Me I live in Southern Arizona. Yuma
> > (city) no county doesn't have anything in they way as help or support
> > groups. Would be willing to travel to Parker (100 miles North) or Tuscon
> > (125 Miles East) to talk to a support Group on a regular bsis. If there
> > is a support group in YUMA County I'd like to talk to them also.
> >
> > Frank
>
> Try this Frank http://yccc.yumaed.org/local/new_page_142.htm
> Let me know, please.
> J

There's support listed here for cancer patients and for caregivers.
Take note of the locations and phone numbers, please
http://www.yumasun.com/onset?id=3304...e=article.html
That way you can call to find out if it's suitable for you (or your wife) and
when the next meetings are.
J

Marvin wrote :

.... snip ...

"I am now in my last week or so and I
suppose the worst of it all there is no support group here that a person
could meet with on a regular bases, it busted up for some unknown reason.

Loneliness and the uncertain at times is so hard, just wanted to stop by
and say I will be in and out as long as I can."

Dear Marvin,

On the most profound level I can say nothing that will really help you
directly, I know that. My own cancer is trivial compared to yours.

But I want you to know that I'd be happy to be one of your "support group"
here, and you are not alone in dealing with loneliness and the uncertain.
You'll find many kind and caring people here, like Matti, and J, that not
only bring a warm and generous heart, but also a lot of knowledge,
practical, medical, and scientific, to the group.

I hope and pray this is a time of mental clarity for you as you review your
life, a time when you can reach out and take care, perhaps, of some old
mis-understandings with family and/or friends. A time for forgiveness and
insight.

And I hope you find ways to express yourself during this time. For me
"expression" means creative writing, and I'd like to close with a sonnet I
wrote (one of a series) that touches on my own responses internally to my
cancer, hoping you will find something in it that reaches you on a human
level.

best, Uncle Sally

HyperBorea XII : The End Which Is Not Better Bitter

Some think it is the Foam in the Waters of the Well of Stories that
Sweetens,
Others claim there's an Overtone of Bitter that Sharpens the Tastes,
And Others remember Perfumes, First Loves, but You Remember :
A 'Last Love' : wondering if it was truly Final Love, or Another Beginning.

Go Ahead : insert the customary Blank Page and print : "to be continued;"
Let the Mind play with the Flavours of a Future where The Hero Rides Again,
And Deeds lead to Conquests, and Virtue wins by Split Decision,
But the Real Good Girl from the Country is solid there in Homespun.

You Play these Tricks to Fool Yourself, you know That; but you Stick
With the Three Rings, and the Rabbit Thing, no matter how Holy the Hat,
And one day there are no Children in the Audience, just Yourself,
Knowing too much, letting the Secrets of the Tricks out, cutting Kite
Strings.

The Strings fall all around you, bind you, spin a Cocoon, You feel
In your hot Breath in that closed space the Great Rhythm Tightening,

J wrote:

> J wrote:
>
> > Frank Sharkey wrote:
> >
> > > Would you have a list of help for Me I live in Southern Arizona. Yuma
> > > (city) no county doesn't have anything in they way as help or support
> > > groups. Would be willing to travel to Parker (100 miles North) or Tuscon
> > > (125 Miles East) to talk to a support Group on a regular bsis. If there
> > > is a support group in YUMA County I'd like to talk to them also.
> > >
> > > Frank
> >
> > Try this Frank http://yccc.yumaed.org/local/new_page_142.htm
> > Let me know, please.
> > J
>
> There's support listed here for cancer patients and for caregivers.
> Take note of the locations and phone numbers, please
> http://www.yumasun.com/onset?id=3304...e=article.html
> That way you can call to find out if it's suitable for you (or your wife) and
> when the next meetings are.
> J

There's 2 phone numbers here for the same cancer support group.
http://www.yumaregional.org/calendar.html

I'll stop for now and see how you make out with what i've posted.
J

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 03:09:07 +0300, Matti Narkia <mna@mbnet.fi> wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 03:06:36 +0300, Matti Narkia <mna@mbnet.fi> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:25:19 -0500, Marvin <texaschappy@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Found out I had cancer about 3 months ago in my stomach with no hope of
>>>surgery, the pet scan showed more other places and I ask not to get all
>>>the details just yet from the doctor.
>>>
>>>I was treated for a ulcer for months until I insisted on a lower G/I.,
>>>it showed two masses (1cm and one 5 cm).
>>>
>>>I went through all the tests including the pet scan suggested my 2nd
>>>opinion doctor.
>>>
>>>2 months or so was my time left, do chemo etc. I had a 25% chance of 2
>>>to 3 years, I opted to ride it out to the end with no chemo/radiation, a
>>>hard decision I assure you...I am now in my last week or so and I
>>>suppose the worst of it all there is no support group here that a person
>>>could meet with on a regular bases, it busted up for some unknown reason.
>>>
>>This is a very very long shot, but some (although not all) trials have
>>found that cimetidine has slightly prolonged survival either alone or
>>with a chemotherapeutic agent in gastric and colorectal cancers. The
>>mechanisms may be inhibition of angiogenesis, stimulation of immune
>>system, histamine ihibition, and inhibition of adhesion of cancer
>>cells onto the vascular endothelium (thus preventing metastases).
>>Cimetidine has a good safety profile, does not usually cause side
>>effects (I know, I've been using it), and its cheap, because its
>>patent has expired.
>
>Oh, doses used have been 400 - 800 mg 2-3 times a day.

Tetrathiomolybdate, a molybdenum compound available by prescription
from compounding pharmacies, is definitely also worth considering.
Tetrathiomolybdate is an experimental angiogenesis inhibitor, which
works by reducing the amount of copper, which is needed in
angiogenesis. See my separate posts about tetrathiomolybdate, also in
sci.med.diseases.cancer.


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Matti Narkia

J wrote:
> Frank Sharkey wrote:
>
>
>>Would you have a list of help for Me I live in Southern Arizona. Yuma
>>(city) no county doesn't have anything in they way as help or support
>>groups. Would be willing to travel to Parker (100 miles North) or Tuscon
>>(125 Miles East) to talk to a support Group on a regular bsis. If there
>>is a support group in YUMA County I'd like to talk to them also.
>>
>>Frank
>
>
> Try this Frank http://yccc.yumaed.org/local/new_page_142.htm
> Let me know, please.
> J
>
J:

It's a nice program how evev you need cash or food stamps to
participate. Which I don't have enough to use any any "extra" items.

However I have an idea. I'll build a web site from a free web server
like tripod. And ask for donation to be sent to my Paypal account or
send a money order to my home mailing address. I figure if I can raise
$3,000.00 that will cover our food, medical, and what we have used up
from our savings account. What do you think of the idea?

Frank

Frank Sharkey wrote:

> However I have an idea. I'll build a web site from a free web server
> like tripod. And ask for donation to be sent to my Paypal account or
> send a money order to my home mailing address. I figure if I can raise
> $3,000.00 that will cover our food, medical, and what we have used up
> from our savings account. What do you think of the idea?

I think you can get into a lot of trouble doing that.

Do you attend a local church? Perhaps the church can set up an account
for donations for you. The donations, made through the church, would
then be tax deductible to the donor and the donor would be more assured
that the funds would be properly used. This is usually how local
charitable funds are established.

Is there a Salvation Army office in Yuma? Did you contact them? Did you
contact the closest chapter of Cancer Care? Have you contacted any of
your county officials? I'm not sure what form of government Yuma County
has, but there has to be someone like a county commissioner who
represents you and can assist you in getting what you need. There *are*
resources. Your time would be better served by trying to make contact
with a local person or organization that could help than with setting up
a web site.

I have been in Yuma and there isn't much there. It's basically a winter
community with year-round residents who, pardon me, are mostly desert
rats. I understand your dilemma, Frank, but you need to dig a little
deeper into the community. I strongly suggest local churches and an
*elected* county official.

Good luck,
Janet




--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Apr 14, 8:25 pm, Marvin <texascha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Found out I had cancer about 3 months ago in my stomach with no hope of
> surgery, the pet scan showed more other places and I ask not to get all
> the details just yet from the doctor.
>
> I was treated for a ulcer for months until I insisted on a lower G/I.,
> it showed two masses (1cm and one 5 cm).
>
> I went through all the tests including the pet scan suggested my 2nd
> opinion doctor.
>
> 2 months or so was my time left, do chemo etc. I had a 25% chance of 2
> to 3 years, I opted to ride it out to the end with no chemo/radiation, a
> hard decision I assure you...I am now in my last week or so and I
> suppose the worst of it all there is no support group here that a person
> could meet with on a regular bases, it busted up for some unknown reason.
>
> Loneliness and the uncertain at times is so hard, just wanted to stop by
> and say I will be in and out as long as I can.
>
> Thanks for listening
>
> Marvin Steward
> Texas

Hi Marvin,

You have found a good place here for company and advice, so I do hope
the you feel less alone now.

When you say you are in the last weeks do you mean that your in the
last weeks of the time indicated by your prognosis, some times people
live past their prognosis. Or do you mean that are you very ill now
and unable to function normally? Do you have you any help from
hospice?

isi

Frank Sharkey wrote:

> J wrote:
> > Frank Sharkey wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Would you have a list of help for Me I live in Southern Arizona. Yuma
> >>(city) no county doesn't have anything in they way as help or support
> >>groups. Would be willing to travel to Parker (100 miles North) or Tuscon
> >>(125 Miles East) to talk to a support Group on a regular bsis. If there
> >>is a support group in YUMA County I'd like to talk to them also.
> >>
> >>Frank
> >
> >
> > Try this Frank http://yccc.yumaed.org/local/new_page_142.htm
> > Let me know, please.
> > J
> >
> J:
>
> It's a nice program how evev you need cash or food stamps to
> participate. Which I don't have enough to use any any "extra" items.
>
> However I have an idea. I'll build a web site from a free web server
> like tripod. And ask for donation to be sent to my Paypal account or
> send a money order to my home mailing address. I figure if I can raise
> $3,000.00 that will cover our food, medical, and what we have used up
> from our savings account. What do you think of the idea?

I guess you'll have to use those cheques unless your kids (or wife) can find
jobs that (might) have less "checking" (of age or citizenship) as in newspaper
and/or flier deliveries, kitchen help, farm/field help, caring for someone
else, kids in the home or sick person, in their home), telephone book
delivery, these types of things are often day jobs. (or advertised in flyers
or newspapers) We have a place where day-jobbers line up early every morning
to see what's available and get right there. If there's nothing, they carry on
with what they planned to do that day (school or home).

Sometimes volunteering at food places, the people get some "bonuses" (of
getting meals as well)).

Some of these are listed in what I call "variety stores". I don't know what
you call them there.
Small shops for foods and junkfood, pop and ice cream, types of places, which
are frequently visited by locals. (cash and carry?)

I saw one woman became a millionare'sse by collecting scrap metals. Scooping
them out of trash and selling to recycling places. I don't know if you have
recyclable pick up or if there's places where these things can be collected
and then taken in to be sold? Laws have to be checked first. Some places, the
"garbage" belongs to the home-owner, but I see people picking over the
recyclables, but they do it in the middle of the night. Safety first !
J

Janet Wilder wrote:
> Frank Sharkey wrote:
>
>> However I have an idea. I'll build a web site from a free web server
>> like tripod. And ask for donation to be sent to my Paypal account or
>> send a money order to my home mailing address. I figure if I can raise
>> $3,000.00 that will cover our food, medical, and what we have used up
>> from our savings account. What do you think of the idea?
>
>
> I think you can get into a lot of trouble doing that.
>
> Do you attend a local church? Perhaps the church can set up an account
> for donations for you. The donations, made through the church, would
> then be tax deductible to the donor and the donor would be more assured
> that the funds would be properly used. This is usually how local
> charitable funds are established.
>
> Is there a Salvation Army office in Yuma? Did you contact them? Did you
> contact the closest chapter of Cancer Care? Have you contacted any of
> your county officials? I'm not sure what form of government Yuma County
> has, but there has to be someone like a county commissioner who
> represents you and can assist you in getting what you need. There *are*
> resources. Your time would be better served by trying to make contact
> with a local person or organization that could help than with setting up
> a web site.
>
> I have been in Yuma and there isn't much there. It's basically a winter
> community with year-round residents who, pardon me, are mostly desert
> rats. I understand your dilemma, Frank, but you need to dig a little
> deeper into the community. I strongly suggest local churches and an
> *elected* county official.
>
> Good luck,
> Janet
>
>
>
>
Janet:
For me to apply at ant of the agencies you have stated I have to have
(0) income with 808 I make too much money. I am a member of an assembly
of God Church. However my home church is 250 miles away their isn't a
AOG church down here. Most other churches don't want to help a person
who is a Pentacostal Believer. Next the Salvation Army will only help
those who:
1 have NO food at home. We do I can't lie to them
2 HAve no source of income. I do 808 a month

As for getting into trouble. I don't thinik so. I wrote a letter to the
editor of the Yuma Sun the Newspaper for the greater yuma area. I hope
to get a response from her. Or she'll post my letter in "to the editor"
section of the sunday paper. Maybe then someone will offer to help me.

lasly I have built the web site I asked the free service could I develop
a site for donations for myself being a cancer patient with no other
financial resources left. They said So long as I do not sell anything
and take tihe money withouit giving the customer their product they
really don't care.

Frank

Take a look at it:

sharktank40.tripod.com

J wrote:

> Frank Sharkey wrote:
>
>
>>J wrote:
>>
>>>Frank Sharkey wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Would you have a list of help for Me I live in Southern Arizona. Yuma
>>>>(city) no county doesn't have anything in they way as help or support
>>>>groups. Would be willing to travel to Parker (100 miles North) or Tuscon
>>>>(125 Miles East) to talk to a support Group on a regular bsis. If there
>>>>is a support group in YUMA County I'd like to talk to them also.
>>>>
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>Try this Frank http://yccc.yumaed.org/local/new_page_142.htm
>>>Let me know, please.
>>>J
>>>
>>
>>J:
>>
>>It's a nice program how evev you need cash or food stamps to
>>participate. Which I don't have enough to use any any "extra" items.
>>
>>However I have an idea. I'll build a web site from a free web server
>>like tripod. And ask for donation to be sent to my Paypal account or
>>send a money order to my home mailing address. I figure if I can raise
>>$3,000.00 that will cover our food, medical, and what we have used up
>>from our savings account. What do you think of the idea?
>
>
> I guess you'll have to use those cheques unless your kids (or wife) can find
> jobs that (might) have less "checking" (of age or citizenship) as in newspaper
> and/or flier deliveries, kitchen help, farm/field help, caring for someone
> else, kids in the home or sick person, in their home), telephone book
> delivery, these types of things are often day jobs. (or advertised in flyers
> or newspapers) We have a place where day-jobbers line up early every morning
> to see what's available and get right there. If there's nothing, they carry on
> with what they planned to do that day (school or home).
>
> Sometimes volunteering at food places, the people get some "bonuses" (of
> getting meals as well)).
>
> Some of these are listed in what I call "variety stores". I don't know what
> you call them there.
> Small shops for foods and junkfood, pop and ice cream, types of places, which
> are frequently visited by locals. (cash and carry?)
>
> I saw one woman became a millionare'sse by collecting scrap metals. Scooping
> them out of trash and selling to recycling places. I don't know if you have
> recyclable pick up or if there's places where these things can be collected
> and then taken in to be sold? Laws have to be checked first. Some places, the
> "garbage" belongs to the home-owner, but I see people picking over the
> recyclables, but they do it in the middle of the night. Safety first !
> J
>
I can't do pysical labor because of the amount of pain that I'm In. We
don't have any children I'm sterile due to my Klinefelter's Syndrome.
AlsoMy wife can't legally get a job yet until her visa is miodified into
a green card. we don't want to jepordize that. If we did she would get
deported from the country. Then what would I do? I would DIe that what
would happen. My Sould would die followed by my brain, heart, then body.
we WILL NOT PUT HER INTO THAT POSITION!!

Frank
Here's my new website
sharktank40.tripod.com

Frank Sharkey wrote:

> J wrote:
>
> <snipped about needing more food or more money for food>
> >
> I can't do pysical labor because of the amount of pain that I'm In. We
> don't have any children I'm sterile due to my Klinefelter's Syndrome.
> AlsoMy wife can't legally get a job yet until her visa is miodified into
> a green card. we don't want to jepordize that. If we did she would get
> deported from the country. Then what would I do? I would DIe that what
> would happen. My Sould would die followed by my brain, heart, then body.
> we WILL NOT PUT HER INTO THAT POSITION!!
>
> Frank
> Here's my new website
> sharktank40.tripod.com

Hello Frank,
My sincere apologies. I was mixing you up with someone who does (did) have kids.
Can't remember who now.

I looked at your summary.
I think an immune-building diet is a ridiculous oncologist idea.
If he thinks it's such a good idea, let him find you the funding for it.

Has your thyroid been checked?
It looks rather enlarged in that area.
J

Frank Sharkey wrote:

> I can't do pysical labor because of the amount of pain that I'm In. We
> don't have any children I'm sterile due to my Klinefelter's Syndrome.
> AlsoMy wife can't legally get a job yet until her visa is miodified into
> a green card. we don't want to jepordize that. If we did she would get
> deported from the country. Then what would I do? I would DIe that what
> would happen. My Sould would die followed by my brain, heart, then body.
> we WILL NOT PUT HER INTO THAT POSITION!!

Frank,
I see your point when I do the math. Not much left for Food.
I wonder if these people have insider information about possible additional
benefits.
(that comment about $250.00 more in Michigan bothers me, but maybe they're more
generous if it's a richer State).
Any maybe less expensive sources for ostomy supplies?
There's a contact, in your area, listed in Word Doc here
http://www.abil.org/manual.htm
and events calendar http://www.abil.org/eventscalendar.htm
Some include meals.
But if they charge to join, you'll have to decide if it's worth it.
So ask questions first, if you can get tips free.
J

On Apr 14, 3:57 pm, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:
> Marvin wrote:

Oh, yet another mindless cad who wants to be a netcop, monitor of what
is "correct" in our society (and failing MISERABLY!) AND someone who
has obviously lost his/her mind - whether or not cancer ate it away,
perhaps it was just your unobjective thought processes and unclean
method of living.


> > Found out I had cancer about 3 months ago in my stomach with no hope of
> > surgery, the pet scan showed more other places and I ask not to get all
> > the details just yet from the doctor.
>
> > I was treated for a ulcer for months until I insisted on a lower G/I.,
> > it showed two masses (1cm and one 5 cm).
>
> > I went through all the tests including the pet scan suggested my 2nd
> > opinion doctor.
>
> > 2 months or so was my time left, do chemo etc. I had a 25% chance of 2
> > to 3 years, I opted to ride it out to the end with no chemo/radiation, a
> > hard decision I assure you...I am now in my last week or so and I
> > suppose the worst of it all there is no support group here that a person
> > could meet with on a regular bases, it busted up for some unknown reason.
>
> > Loneliness and the uncertain at times is so hard, just wanted to stop by
> > and say I will be in and out as long as I can.
>
> > Thanks for listening
>
> > Marvin Steward
> > Texas
>
> Hello Marvin and welcome.
> You won't be so alone with us here.
> I'm sorry to hear about your cancer.
>
> While here, you will need to learn how to use your "message filters" in your
> software.
> Filter out posters who post long posts.
> And filter out off topics including the current political one. Uusally a
> person has to copy and paste the poster's name (or phrase) into the filters
> section, which might be in "Edit" on your newsreader.
>
> I would suggest that you try it with i_tell_it_like_it_i...@yahoo.com and
> Elizabeth Edwards
> and see if that clears out a bunch of posts for you.
>
> Or when you get to a message in a topic not of interest to you
> "To ignore a message thread:
> 1. Select a message in the thread.
> 2. Open the Message menu, and choose Ignore Thread. Mozilla Mail &
> Newsgroups marks all messages in the thread as read, and new replies posted
> to the thread will appear as read."
>
> That Message Menu place might also have an "ignore Poster" option as well.
> (which could be easier than copying and pasting)
>
> I don't know where you are, in Texas, nor do I live there, nor do you say
> which support group closed.
>
> I have a general Texas resources list you could look throughhttp://www.txcancer.org/scripts/mgwns.html
> What popped out at me, there, was "crisis lines". They're sometimes a good
> listening ear; if they have a crisis, they'll sometimes ask you to call back
> before their shift end, to continue the conversation or might tell you better
> times to call them, so they can dedicate more time with you.
>
> The Salvation Army has meetings - check your phone book or that list above,
> for the closest one to you.
>
> The United Way, in your phone book, might know of support groups, close to
> you.
>
> Your local American Cancer Society office might know if they've trained
> someone local recently that you may call to find out if there's a group
> suited for you.
>
> Medical centers often have pastoral care. Call the one closest to you, or the
> one where you had the testing done.
>
> I've found a few and will post the links, in case one or the other helps.
>
> SW Texas http://www.swtexaslive.com/node/3803
>
> New Stage IV Cancer Support Group for Relatives/Caregivers - North of
> Houston
> 1st and 3rd Thursday of each month - 6 p.m. - Cancer Centerhttp://www.woodlandsonline.com/evps/evitem.cfm?evid=12980
> Meeting place and times and phone number is mentioned there.
>
> I'll be watching for your posts and thinking of you.
> J