The circle of death from oil and car and diesel and

particulate pollution. Those downwind more prone to suffer.

----- Original Message -----
From: "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: diary day 1 of being killed from Pollution


>Day 1 typical day with much pollution in house, checked the air rating
>started out in moderate range again. making it close to 70 percent this
>year we reach levels of air out of the good zone. During the day we stayed
>at high good zone or moderate, definitely not still good enough to breathe
>clearly or healthy in my eyes. Monday and all I can do is provide links to
>damage and show how no one cared
> to do anything more sooner and in fact delayed doing what needed to be
> done
> to help people live better healthier lives. You won't see this on your I
> am coping in a
> city with 500 plus murders a year and pollution which automatically
> constricts my lungs and hardly anyone getting any clean air for days if
> not
> weeks.This is the circle for people: paying thru your teeth for energy
> and car and oil companies and repairs... wait in traffic, get more
> pollution, pay for gas.. pay for pollution, go to pharmacy get more meds
> eventually go to doctors and talk about runs for cancer and heart disease
> but nada a talk about associations between pollution and how people got
> sick, then your disability and wonder what went wrong... Meanwhile in
> clean air places people live longer and without this circle of death and
> yet no one examines the biggest poisoning of people in history in the US,
> the people who do it will never pay a dime.
> ok getting back to circle of death in polluted cities.... then pay to
> die and cemetery plot. that was their entire life cycle
> in some cities
> It has gotten worse. Between 60 and 80 percent of the time we don't get
> any
> clean air. Its actually gotten worse for people who have to live in it.
> What
> are the consequences? Why does TV and major news ignore it? Why doesn't
> the
> govt , or political leaders protect its own citizens from air that has
> been
> proven to causes damage and I assert can be proven much more ? Why is it
> that the only place anyone can find the links for this is on a newsgroup
> or net?
> the leaders of this country that allow this and do nothing are
> effectively murdering people and teaching people to disrespect leaders and
> authority
..I advise anyone sane to
> just follow the small amounts of links I left here and assume so many
> studies have not been done either . because corporations had no reason to
> sponser
> them
> http://www.emaxhealth.com/24/7741.html
> Is there a magical way to stay healthy or exercising in this pollution if
> your cities averages of particulates is 50 ,60 ,120 in Summer and
> sometimes
> in Winter? We are being poisoned and no one is doing anything!!!! Who is
> protecting kids and people what is going on? Stop stop murdering us . read
> the links toward the end
>
>
> Protection under the consttution is ignored
>> Yahoo doesn't even allow free discussions for the most part after news
>> story... too much reality
>> murder and pollution and sometimes wars,.produce jobs at other peoples
>> expense. Pollution : the people had no choice. its murder for oil and
>> energy
>> companies and I think I can prove it.
>>
>>> Subject: Particle Pollution and Gun violence means war in the US
>>
>>
>>> is already here for some people and nothing is done
>>> Subject: PARTICLE POLLUTION IS NOT EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW
>>>
>>>
>>>> PARTICLE POLLUTION IS KILLING PEOPLE NOTHING DONE
>>>> IN MY CITY ALSO WE ARE ON PACE FOR 500 PLUS MURDERS this year even more
>>>> then last year, In addition to most asthma, respiratory disease and one
>>>> of
>>>> the worse mortality rates, we have more murders then ALMOST 1/4 OF
>>>> ALL
>>>> US
>>>> DEATHS IN IRAQ so far...!!!!!!
>>>> WE HAVE A WAR GOING ON IN SOME CITIES AND WE ARE BEING POISONED AT THE
>>>> SAME
>>>> TIME AND ITS ALL IGNORED, TALK ABOUT FREEDOM This is our country?
>>>> This is one reason so many people
>>>> around the world care about this and global warming and clean energy.
>>>> They
>>>> seldom go after the consequences of pollution but they do about global
>>>> warming and that makes it eaven scarier for me to understand why they
>>>> don't
>>>> want to deal with reality of possibly being poisoned by polllution.
>>>> They
>>>> almost have this level of concern masqueraded by global warming so they
>>>> don't have to go over the ramifications of pollution-----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> stay tuned for real links to damages!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
> the greatest conspiracy in the history of the US is going on now.
>>>>>> Making
>>>>>> it seem not important that some people get moderate amount of
>>>>>> particulate
>>>>>> pollution every other day at least and no one doing anything to stop
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> spite of my claim that its poisoning people and if science wanted to,
>>>>>> could be proven much more, if its not already proven. . The effects I
>>>>>> assert is
>>>>>> poisonous and I beg and I 'am saying it can be proven,much more. If
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> objective and have loved one on the east coast or downwind from the
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> pollution, or constant pollution or coal plants I urge people in
>>>>>> science and medicine to do
>>>>>> comparison studies between those downwind from pollutionand who ate
>>>>>> healthy things and those in non polluted areas. . The pharmacies know
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> the result are because even before I surprised people with links( in
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> obsecure site, I kept having people tell me it wasn't so bad) to
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> asthma and respiratory deaths in US
>>>>>>They have been advertising for lung centers and asthma meds in
>>>>>>exceess
>>>>>>to any
>>>>>> area
>>>>>> of the country I have ever been it.. The executives of car companies
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> gov officials who allow the toxic combination of diesel and coal and
>>>>>> car
>>>>>> exhaust with global warming effects are in effect allowing the
>>>>>> poisoning
>>>>>> of a population. I will promise to God, that I dearly think this is
>>>>>> killing and making ill many people unnecessarily or without gov or
>>>>>> elected leaders to protect its citizens.
> I think the damages are way
>>>>>> underestimated
>>>>>> in fact. Over and over I see the data and if people died five percent
>>>>>> faster that might be important but in some studies they are dying 30
>>>>>> percent faster!!! Guess where they live longer and whey they die
>>>>>> faster? The people who live in clean air has everything going for
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> while those that don't are straining to survive while media ignores
>>>>>> the implication or addresses the problems to them.
>>>>>> Where are the lawyers? I have seen babies and elderly and people
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> asthma struggle to breathe on moderate or worse days of particulate
>>>>>> OVER and OVER again from
>>>>>> pollution over and over whether they knew why or not , I have seen
>>>>>> older
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> also struggle , and in my estimation are in less better shape then
>>>>>> those who have lived their lives in clean air. The same people
>>>>>> exposed
>>>>>> to bad air I assert are made to additionally pay for their illness
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> circumstances not within their control or protected, by paying higher
>>>>>> and more costs to treat illnesss I attest. So not only are they
>>>>>> poisoned they have to pay for medical costs more. .. There are many
>>>>>> ways to test my hypothesis, in addition
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> standard tread mill tests for conditioning. I think beyond the links
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> show we are getting more respiratory disease, they can show
>>>>>> conclusively
>>>>>> more damages too from other things. maybe heart disease and cancer..
>>>>>> Generations of families and people have lost productive lives thru
>>>>>> cancers
>>>>>> that might have completely been nullified if they had lived in
>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>> free areas. The degree that this is ignored and where media and
>>>>>> politicians
>>>>>> ignore all sane correlations an stats in my area is
>>>>>> beyond
>>>>>> incredible and it borders on mass murder and conspiracy. The media
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>> doesn't answer me when I ask why this is not important? Its almost
>>>>>> unbelievable.
>>>>>> The epa while doing a good job, to have put up a website to monitor
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> air has failed in determining the level at which this air causes
>>>>>> harm,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> believe at least. . Babies are being poisoned , kids are not
>>>>>> graduating
>>>>>> and worse then everything a populations and millions of people,
>>>>>> generations of people , I assert are in in much worse health then
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> in clean air and I bet my life it can be proven if scientists wanted
>>>>>> to.Whatever the reason people are cynical, many have trouble
>>>>>> learning,
>>>>>> or doing daily chores and finally are not even counted.
>>>>>> In
>>>>>> my area people stop exercising in mass at middle age but thats a
>>>>>> totally subjective opinion. ,Its not who I know
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> gets sick in their fifties and sixties, its how MANY! , in Hawaii,
>>>>>> tens
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> thousands exercise at higher age. People like ex Presidents and
>>>>>> Ernest
>>>>>> Gallo die in decent health in great areas of clean air at age 90s but
>>>>>> people like our ex football players Reggie White and Mayor Rizzo ,
>>>>>> John Vuckovich, and many many more dies
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> earlier. I am taken back time and again how many people are on
>>>>>> disability
>>>>>> in this area at a much earlier age in addition to rising asthma which
>>>>>> keeps rising.I think it would be easy to prove disability from asthma
>>>>>> just from the links that I left. but who would choose this for a
>>>>>> life?
>>>>>> Of course I am not surprised. People have told me once
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Philly especially on bad air days they too have smelled the bad air
>>>>>> immediately ,.The correlations though of just bad smell , is not even
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> beginning of the concern, its the cancers and early morbidity and
>>>>>> respiratory diseases. of accumulated ravages of too many days of
>>>>>> exposure
>>>>>> of particulate pollution. Its the tens of thousands of violent
>>>>>> crimes,
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> the lost optimism of in this city turned cynical, and its distrust
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> what is happening to people while politicians ignore one of the
>>>>>> biggest
>>>>>> conspitacies of all time, Every year a politician talks about crime
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> building sports staidiums and taxes,while crime gets worse and our
>>>>>> health
>>>>>> gets worse. Look at the stats for people who get many days of high
>>>>>> particulate pollution in last paragraphs.. I am betting the people
>>>>>> responsible will get away with murdering whole generation of people
>>>>>> it without anyone suing them or studies
>>>>>> made to show the discrepency in health and longevity. which I claim
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> show the disparity between people with pollution and without. People
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> being poisoned and the greatest thing to enhance life is not often
>>>>>> accesible for these populations, clean air . The damages I assert can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> proven. Many in the US sworn to protect our citizens are actually
>>>>>> terrorizing them.
>>>>>>If I am not mistaken there are laws on the books to do harm to
>>>>> people. If a govt policy does it or if an individulal does it to
>>>>> another
>>>>> person.or whoever conspired to allow harm is not protected under the
>>>>> law. (I would assume if we arrest murderers)
>>>>> If moving is only criteria to get away from being lied to or
>>>>> poisoned,or
>>>>> frombad things, then only people rich enough to move will be able to
>>>>> evade
>>>>> poisonings or bad things and thus the rest are pawns to the rich. Read
>>>>> the Tale of Two Cities, this is what is going on in the US right now.
>>>>> Have
>>>>> you
>>>>> ever read the constitution? I think most people in America might
>>>>> expect
>>>>> obvious different climates and degrees of violent crime and school
>>>>> systems,
>>>>> but not expect to be poisoned by pollution , where you really can't
>>>>> escape
>>>>> and expect people to know of the dangers. If people were informed
>>>>> universally of dangers or if my association or assertions were shown
>>>>> on the news
>>>>> or
>>>>> media as proof or known consequences and dangers. then govt or people
>>>>> were
>>>>> asked to choose what they can do , that would be one thing. (not good
>>>>> agreed) but at least one can't claim they were not informed. But they
>>>>> are not.
>>>>There is a conspiracy to committ harm to certain
>>>>> people , and it should be against the law Its the expectation that all
>>>>> people have
>>>>> certain
>>>>> rights and one of them Is to be protected from undue harm..No State
>>>>> shall
>>>>> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or
>>>>> immunities
>>>>> of
>>>>> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person
>>>>> of
>>>>> life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to
>>>>> any
>>>>> person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pharmacies and asthma drug makers know of damage they advertise
>>>>>>>> for COPD and asthma and Lung Centers meds all day and night in
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> city,
>>>>>>>> yet hardly any
>>>>>>>> story why we need it? Hoho if you don't think news isn't controlled
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> coopted then I would say your naive
>>>>>>>> In addition to advertising for effects from lung illness, The fact
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> tv stations talk about health effects of one study on
>>>>>>>> vitamin e or a car seat recall but ignore that we are number one
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the nation for
>>>>>>>> respiratory deaths, more asthma then most every city (Thats EVERY
>>>>>>>> CITY
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> AMERICA), rated f by American Lung Association and bottom sixth
>>>>>>>> percent
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> air quality from
>>>>>>>> Sperlings list of cities , and now or
>>>>>>>> soon almost more days then any city in the US for particulate
>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> airnow.org
>>>>>>>> without getting good days of air .. shows me this is a conspiracy
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>> unrivaled in modern history. Show me comparison studies, like
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> living
>>>>>>>> on congested streets with lots of traffic and compare their health
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> with no
>>>>>>>> traffic in low pollution towns, or . Compare people who are bus
>>>>>>>> drives
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> stay
>>>>>>>> hours behind other bus drivers and rate their health to average
>>>>>>>> american
>>>>>>>> without this . Ten other studies could show damage, for instance a
>>>>>>>> neighborhood with many fast food restaurants and cars idling , the
>>>>>>>> effects
>>>>>>>> of health on neighbors homeowners bordering the
>>>>>>>> restaurants.....without anyway for neighbors to protect themselves.
>>>>>>>> Cigarette smokers had choices, these people and us often are not
>>>>>>>> even told let alone have choices to protect themselves or familes
>>>>>>>> and on top of it I assert have to pay for this b high costs to
>>>>>>>> treat
>>>>>>>> illness after they are poisoined. .. b No one cares to protect
>>>>>>>> people equally from real
>>>>>>>> damage.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> would like to see the number of people who ate the same things and
>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>> Cancers
>>>>>>>> directly related to the differeing amounts of pollution in their
>>>>>>>> neighborhood! Do you see the studies.?:
>>>>>>>> The epa actually has a way to rate our air although i think they
>>>>>>>> underestimate thedamage and the levels at which human health is
>>>>>>>> compromised.
>>>>>>>> I think human health begins to be compromised in Good air zone
>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> mild zone. At Mild zone my lung automatically constrict. There is
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> way to protect myself other to get homeless. The oil producers and
>>>>>>>> polluters and diesel makera are effectively murdering millions of
>>>>>>>> people and getting away with it
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> then two studies that have mysteriously disappeared that showed
>>>>>>>> exercising
>>>>>>>> in this moderate level could quite likely do more harm then
>>>>>>>> good.And
>>>>>>>> millions of people are breathing air that is killing them faster.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> you do a search for particulate pollution and onset asthma, you
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> see that exposure of these pollutants cause onset asthma but still
>>>>>>>> no lawyer to sue even when proven? ???? Whats going on?
>>>>>>>> Is there a
>>>>>>>> study
>>>>>>>> that says its healthy to exercise in this ( of course they would
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> lying if they said yes) and if not and kids are getting this air 80
>>>>>>>> percent
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the time , is there a magical way they are protected from
>>>>>>>> polluters?
>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>> course not, they are being poisoned ! So when tv says to go out and
>>>>>>>> exercise
>>>>>>>> even if peoople might be harmed whose responsibility is it to
>>>>>>>> protect
>>>>>>>> people? Why are not tv station sued? When weather people say
>>>>>>>> warning
>>>>>>>> level pollution days are
>>>>>>>> beautiful
>>>>>>>> is there any responisbilityto tell the truth to viewers ? Why
>>>>>>>> don'tprotecting our own people as important as paying oil companies
>>>>>>>> subsidies for oil exploration?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> amazing, I feel the pain and its not my fault!
>>>>>>>> Collectively if and I say IF they wanted to prove more lethal
>>>>>>>> damage
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> could. I have written Universities to ask to show levels of health
>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>> populations who ate the same thing but breathed big differences in
>>>>>>>> particle
>>>>>>>> pollution. They hung up on me. The literally don't care! Its
>>>>>>>> amazing.Try
>>>>>>>> asking news stations why they advertise for asthma meds but don't
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>> viewers the horrible rates in our town.or why people need
>>>>>>>> them...Power is when newsmedia has agenda and truth comes in last.
>>>>>>>> Loss of freedom is when truth don't make a difference anymore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in the meantime people will suffer knowingly or most hopeful to
>>>>>>>>>> politicians,
>>>>>>>>>> unknowingly
>>>>>>>>>> I listed some things that we have that are horrible for a city,
>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> one not see how things are connected, yet people like to argue
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> why is it on the coast and on Marthas Vineyards, the ex
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> stars
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>> Presidents die in their 90s, in Philadelphia, we are the murder
>>>>> capital,
>>>>> asthma capital ( most asthma then any city) , most respiratory deaths
>>>>> then any city, morbidity 30 percent higher then average and no one
>>>>> does
>>>>> anything with our f rated air? No solution , not even mentioned...
>>>>> Callison, McGraw,White ( had asthma) and now Vuk
>> college rower dies in Philly
>> http://wcbstv.com/topstories/topstor...135114403.html.
>> Ed Sciaky, a Philadelphia disc jockey who helped bring attention to
>> artists
>> died early
>> McFaden Philly musician dies in fifties
>> just off the top of my head. but seriously this means nothing, the
>> averages
>> mean more and philly has a whole batch of bad things happening.
>> People get clue we have
>>>>> more cancers, heart disease and morbidity and murders and asthma and
>>>>> respiratory deaths with the least amount of kids graduating from
>>>>> school.
>>>>> We have tons of advertising for asthma and Copd but not a mention in
>>>>> the
>>>>> world why. God help you all here.
>>>>
>>>> blah blah...got links to prove any of this stuff? is this per capita or
>>>> total? is this for the metro area or the city?
>>>>
>>>>American Lung Association rates our city an F for air quality
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Number one or two in asthma and asthma doctors, and death by
>>>>>>>>>> asthmaHere
>>>>>>>>>> are the most recent links , of cities with most asthma,
>>>>>>>>> Here is the link to 2006 most asthma link
>>>>>>>>> http://www.asthmacapital.com/asthma_capitals2006.pdf
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2007
>>>>>>>>> http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=79126
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Number one or two the number of days our air reaches moderate
>>>>>>>>>> levels
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> kind that one study says does more harm then good if you exercise
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the kind which automatically constricts lungs and a host of other
>>>>>>>>>> horrible
>>>>>>>>>> things ( the fact that they even did the studies surprises me)
>>>>>>>>>> F rating my American Lung Association
>>>>>>>>>> The most depressed city in the nation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1359647/posts
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After adjusting for age distribution of the population, female
>>>>>>>>>> mortality
>>>>>>>>>> was 20 percent higher!!!! then average for the US and Male
>>>>>>>>>> mortality
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> 33
>>>>>>>>>> percent higher then average! Is this healthy ? Or just a little
>>>>>>>>>> bad?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.phila.gov/health/hp2010/P...emperature.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bottom ten percent for air quality, in Sperlings list of cities.
>>>>>>>>> Even low levels or particulates which we get more often then most
>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>> city in the US causes elevated risks of stroke
>>>>>>>>> Personally unlike some have said, I don't think the stats can get
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> worse here
>>>>>>>>> http://www.americanheart.org/present...tifier=3045419
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and a photo of my air filter after 29 days in air that had 18
>>>>>>>>>>moderate
>>>>>>>>>>particulate days out of 29 or worse
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=IMG_0118.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is link to pollution and early death
>>>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>>
>>
>> Here is link to where we are called Murder Capital
>>
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/video/partners/cl...urder.city.cnn
>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have NJ doing things , mandating emission control and
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> California
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> going to stop using coal near their cities and
>>>>>>>>>> other towns get upset if they have three warning days, of air,
>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> ignore it. The news media totally ignores all these correlations.
>>>>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> ask you why? Kids I urge your parents to ask politicians how you
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> family is
>>>>>>>>>> to stay healthy in air not conducive to exercise? Can anyone show
>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> link or magical way of doing that ?
>>>>>>>>>> how its done? How do you accept the possibility that when all
>>>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the country health is improving , in Philly its actually amongst
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> worse in several areas? Is there a magic reason for this? or for
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> be ignored?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "MCS" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%qlGh.550$wc6.527@trndny05...
>>>>>> face it there is a conspiracy to keep particulate problems from
>>>>>> people.
>>>>>> Either it causes death and illness like to me and others or it
>>>>>> doesnt.
>>>>>> Two
>>>>>> giant studies said it did. no longer have the
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