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Old 01-02-2008, 09:18 AM
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You may ask, why do I think. the "they" referred to are the security
services? Is there any evidence that there is a single source,. as opposed
to a loosely based "whispering campaign" amongst many people?. Even if there
is a single source, is there any evidence that "they". are professional
"buggers" as opposed to. amateurs, or perhaps people working for a privately
funded. organization?

a) As to the. question of a single source versus something more fragmented;
it is quite obvious that there is a single source from the way. the campaign
has. been carried out. Since things have been repeated verbatim which were
said. in my home, there must be one group which does the watching and
listening. Since on several. occasions (mainly during travel) people have
been planted in close proximity and rehearsed in. what they were to say, it
follows that. someone must have done the planning for that, and again a
single source is. indicated.

b) So why couldn't it be amateurs? Why. couldn't it be a private
organisation,. for example a private detective agency paid to manage the
campaign and undertake the technical aspects? Some. detective agencies are
unscrupulous as has been proved on the. occasions in the past when they've
been exposed or caught; they too can have access to the bugging. technology
deployed;. and there are reported cases of MI5 paying private eyes to do
their dirty. work (against peace campaigners and similar enemies of the
state) on the understanding that if they were caught then they. could deny
all knowledge. Why couldn't that. be the case?

The main factor. pointing to direct security service involvement (as opposed
to amateurs or MI5 proxies) is the breadth of their access to. the media in
particular, and the fact that. the television companies are so involved in
the campaign. The BBC. would not directly invade someone's home themselves,
since it would not be within their remit to. allocate personnel or financial
resources. to do so. An organisation of their stature would not take part in
a campaign set up by private sources. The only people they. would take
material from would be the security. services, presumably on the assumption
that if the cat ever. flew out of the bag yowling it would be MI5 who would
take the. consequences.

State. sponsorship for these acts of psychological terrorism is also
indicated by duration; support for over six years for a team. of three or
four people would be beyond the means and will. of most private sources.
The viciousness of the slanders and. personal denigration also points to
MI5; they traditionally. "protect" the British state from politicians of the
wrong. hue by character assassination, and in this case are using their
tried and tested methods to murder with words an. enemy they have invented
for. themselves.

And there are. precedents. Diana and Hewitt were alleged to have been filmed
"at it" by an Army intelligence. team which had operated in Northern
Ireland, these. allegations were made by someone called Jones who had been
on the team.. His statements were denied by the defence establishment who
tried to character-assassinate by. describing him as the "Jones twins".
Funny how if you tell the. truth, then you must be ill, isn't it? Thought
only. communists behaved like that?

Hewitt later said that he'd been spoken to by someone in the army. who
revealed the existence. of videotapes of him and Diana, and that the tapes
would be published if any attempt was made by them to resume. their
association.

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Old 01-02-2008, 09:59 AM
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go clean up my pee

<fveifmv@lycos.com> wrote in message news:hc0800020838034328@4ax.com...
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> -=. why the security services? -=
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> You may ask, why do I think. the "they" referred to are the security
> services? Is there any evidence that there is a single source,. as opposed
> to a loosely based "whispering campaign" amongst many people?. Even if
> there
> is a single source, is there any evidence that "they". are professional
> "buggers" as opposed to. amateurs, or perhaps people working for a
> privately
> funded. organization?
>
> a) As to the. question of a single source versus something more
> fragmented;
> it is quite obvious that there is a single source from the way. the
> campaign
> has. been carried out. Since things have been repeated verbatim which were
> said. in my home, there must be one group which does the watching and
> listening. Since on several. occasions (mainly during travel) people have
> been planted in close proximity and rehearsed in. what they were to say,
> it
> follows that. someone must have done the planning for that, and again a
> single source is. indicated.
>
> b) So why couldn't it be amateurs? Why. couldn't it be a private
> organisation,. for example a private detective agency paid to manage the
> campaign and undertake the technical aspects? Some. detective agencies are
> unscrupulous as has been proved on the. occasions in the past when they've
> been exposed or caught; they too can have access to the bugging.
> technology
> deployed;. and there are reported cases of MI5 paying private eyes to do
> their dirty. work (against peace campaigners and similar enemies of the
> state) on the understanding that if they were caught then they. could deny
> all knowledge. Why couldn't that. be the case?
>
> The main factor. pointing to direct security service involvement (as
> opposed
> to amateurs or MI5 proxies) is the breadth of their access to. the media
> in
> particular, and the fact that. the television companies are so involved in
> the campaign. The BBC. would not directly invade someone's home
> themselves,
> since it would not be within their remit to. allocate personnel or
> financial
> resources. to do so. An organisation of their stature would not take part
> in
> a campaign set up by private sources. The only people they. would take
> material from would be the security. services, presumably on the
> assumption
> that if the cat ever. flew out of the bag yowling it would be MI5 who
> would
> take the. consequences.
>
> State. sponsorship for these acts of psychological terrorism is also
> indicated by duration; support for over six years for a team. of three or
> four people would be beyond the means and will. of most private sources.
> The viciousness of the slanders and. personal denigration also points to
> MI5; they traditionally. "protect" the British state from politicians of
> the
> wrong. hue by character assassination, and in this case are using their
> tried and tested methods to murder with words an. enemy they have invented
> for. themselves.
>
> And there are. precedents. Diana and Hewitt were alleged to have been
> filmed
> "at it" by an Army intelligence. team which had operated in Northern
> Ireland, these. allegations were made by someone called Jones who had been
> on the team.. His statements were denied by the defence establishment who
> tried to character-assassinate by. describing him as the "Jones twins".
> Funny how if you tell the. truth, then you must be ill, isn't it? Thought
> only. communists behaved like that?
>
> Hewitt later said that he'd been spoken to by someone in the army. who
> revealed the existence. of videotapes of him and Diana, and that the tapes
> would be published if any attempt was made by them to resume. their
> association.
>
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>




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