Natural nausea treatment for chemo patients

For those of you undergoing chemotherapy, or friends of those who are,
one of the unpleasant side effects of chemo is the nasty taste that you
get in your mouth. I'm guessing that's some of the poisons leaching
out of your cheeks. Another, worse side effect is the nausea. I've
found that, in addition to Emend and Prochlorperazine, nausea is abated
nicely with ginger. I've also found that ginger takes away a lot of
the bad taste. Try your local Whole Foods or other granola head shop,
and look for tins of little mint-like ginger pills called St. Claire's
Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale or ginger
beer is also hepful.
I also found that mints help with the taste, although not the nausea.
I do well with Tic-Tacs, Mentos, and those tiny balls of mint oil in a
(gelatin?) shell. I think those are Icebreakers, but I'm all out so I
can't check a label. Anything to overcome that taste is good, and
probably helps a little against nausea (that taste makes me a bit
nauseous) and improves appetite. I hope this helps some of you.

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:
> For those of you undergoing chemotherapy, or friends of those who are,
> one of the unpleasant side effects of chemo is the nasty taste that you
> get in your mouth. I'm guessing that's some of the poisons leaching
> out of your cheeks. Another, worse side effect is the nausea. I've
> found that, in addition to Emend and Prochlorperazine, nausea is abated
> nicely with ginger. I've also found that ginger takes away a lot of
> the bad taste. Try your local Whole Foods or other granola head shop,
> and look for tins of little mint-like ginger pills called St. Claire's
> Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale or ginger
> beer is also hepful.
> I also found that mints help with the taste, although not the nausea.
> I do well with Tic-Tacs, Mentos, and those tiny balls of mint oil in a
> (gelatin?) shell. I think those are Icebreakers, but I'm all out so I
> can't check a label. Anything to overcome that taste is good, and
> probably helps a little against nausea (that taste makes me a bit
> nauseous) and improves appetite. I hope this helps some of you.
>
Actually the best thing to do is stop taking chemo as it is a toxic
poison. Next seek treatment from a REAL health professional instead of a
quack who thinks that pumping you up with poison will cure you.

L

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:

> For those of you undergoing chemotherapy, or friends of those who are,
> one of the unpleasant side effects of chemo is the nasty taste that you
> get in your mouth. I'm guessing that's some of the poisons leaching
> out of your cheeks. Another, worse side effect is the nausea. I've
> found that, in addition to Emend and Prochlorperazine, nausea is abated
> nicely with ginger. I've also found that ginger takes away a lot of
> the bad taste. Try your local Whole Foods or other granola head shop,
> and look for tins of little mint-like ginger pills called St. Claire's
> Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale or ginger
> beer is also hepful.
> I also found that mints help with the taste, although not the nausea.
> I do well with Tic-Tacs, Mentos, and those tiny balls of mint oil in a
> (gelatin?) shell. I think those are Icebreakers, but I'm all out so I
> can't check a label. Anything to overcome that taste is good, and
> probably helps a little against nausea (that taste makes me a bit
> nauseous) and improves appetite. I hope this helps some of you.

Thanks for the tips.
Your crosspost inappropriate. Stop it.
J

Loogie wrote:

> Actually the best thing to do is stop taking chemo as it is a toxic
> poison. Next seek treatment from a REAL health professional instead of a
> quack who thinks that pumping you up with poison will cure you.

Quotes by Steph:
There are some relatively rare advanced metastatic cancers which can be cured
by chemo - testicular germ cell cancer, high and medium grade non-Hodgkin's
lymphoma, some childhood cancers, but that's it.

Chemotherapy is vastly overblown.
It is a valuable adjuvant treatment after surgery for some common cancers,
but none of the
common epithelial cancers (breast, stomach, colon, rectum, lung, prostate,
etc, ) can be cured by chemotherapy. And there is nothing on the horizon to
suggest that that is going to change anytime soon.

For every 100 cancers cured, surgery cures about 50, radiotherapy about 40
and chemotherapy at best 10. That's just the way it is.....

for every 100 cancers cured, radiation cures about 45...........And surgery
about 52
(Depending on the source)
__________________________________________________ _____
It's also useful neo-adjuvant (before surgery).
It's also useful for some head and neck cancers (or RT alone) where surgery
would be too disfiguring and/or difficult to access or best not do surgery
for whatever reason.
Also potentionally curable for some gynae cancers in combo with RT.
Useful to shrink (symptomatic) tumours...so is radiotherapy (RT)

see Steph's "Questions to Ask" to weigh the pros and cons of treatment.


Trimmed inappropriate crosspost
J

Loogie wrote:
> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> Actually the best thing to do is stop taking chemo as it is a toxic
> poison. Next seek treatment from a REAL health professional instead of a
> quack who thinks that pumping you up with poison will cure you.
> L

Look for connexions via <http://www.thepowerhour.com/>. Think oregano!
Always think organic. No need to give up what you are doing!
--
'foolsrushin.'

J wrote:
> Loogie wrote:
>> Actually the best thing to do is stop taking chemo as it is a toxic
>> poison. Next seek treatment from a REAL health professional instead of a
>> quack who thinks that pumping you up with poison will cure you.
>
> Quotes by Steph:

You're offering facts to someone who's named after a mass of phlegm and
saliva that is ejected from the mouth.

--
"...by March 2000, President Clinton informed Congress he could no longer
certify that 'North Korea is not seeking to develop or acquire the capability
to enrich uranium.'"
<http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/northkorea/nuclear.html>

J wrote:
> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > For those of you undergoing chemotherapy, or friends of those who are,
> > one of the unpleasant side effects of chemo is the nasty taste that you
> > get in your mouth. I'm guessing that's some of the poisons leaching
> > out of your cheeks. Another, worse side effect is the nausea. I've
> > found that, in addition to Emend and Prochlorperazine, nausea is abated
> > nicely with ginger. I've also found that ginger takes away a lot of
> > the bad taste. Try your local Whole Foods or other granola head shop,
> > and look for tins of little mint-like ginger pills called St. Claire's
> > Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale or ginger
> > beer is also hepful.
> > I also found that mints help with the taste, although not the nausea.
> > I do well with Tic-Tacs, Mentos, and those tiny balls of mint oil in a
> > (gelatin?) shell. I think those are Icebreakers, but I'm all out so I
> > can't check a label. Anything to overcome that taste is good, and
> > probably helps a little against nausea (that taste makes me a bit
> > nauseous) and improves appetite. I hope this helps some of you.
>
> Thanks for the tips.
> Your crosspost inappropriate. Stop it.

I crossposted to ROM because I've found a much more open and friendly
environment there. More responsive than ASC. I included ASC because
this is topical to the group. The content was well within the bounds
of both groups, and therefore crossposting was entirely appropriate.
If you don't like crossposting, set up a filter so you won't see
crossposted messages.

---
CSM

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:

> J wrote:
>
> > > Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale or ginger
> > > beer is also hepful.
> >
> > Thanks for the tips.
> > Your crosspost inappropriate. Stop it.
>
> I crossposted to ROM because I've found a much more open and friendly
> environment there. More responsive than ASC. I included ASC because
> this is topical to the group. The content was well within the bounds
> of both groups, and therefore crossposting was entirely appropriate.
> If you don't like crossposting, set up a filter so you won't see
> crossposted messages.

Crossposting is inappropriate but for a few types of posts (between the cancer
communities)
J

J wrote:
> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > J wrote:
> >
> > > > Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale or ginger
> > > > beer is also hepful.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tips.
> > > Your crosspost inappropriate. Stop it.
> >
> > I crossposted to ROM because I've found a much more open and friendly
> > environment there. More responsive than ASC. I included ASC because
> > this is topical to the group. The content was well within the bounds
> > of both groups, and therefore crossposting was entirely appropriate.
> > If you don't like crossposting, set up a filter so you won't see
> > crossposted messages.
>
> Crossposting is inappropriate but for a few types of posts (between the cancer
> communities)

Of course you're welcome to your opinion, but that's a broad
generalization, in direct conflict with the standards of Usenet. It is
common practice on Usenet to crosspost when a message is intended to be
of interest to more than one group. That's why crossposting is built
into the protocols. Again, if you don't like crossposting, you can set
up a filter to skip such messages.

---
CSM

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:

> J wrote:
> > csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > J wrote:
>
> > > > Your crosspost inappropriate. Stop it.
> > >
> > > I crossposted to ROM because I've found a much more open and friendly
> > > environment there. More responsive than ASC. <snip>
> > Crossposting is inappropriate but for a few types of posts (between the cancer
> > communities)
>
> <snip Usenet protocols and telling me what to do>

I am asking you on behalf of all (current and future) cancer patients and loved
ones.
(some of whom cannot filter). That's not difficult to understand, even for a Mensa.

You're either part of the cancer community and talk with others here (which you
haven't much - there's other colorectal cancer patients here and no attempt from you
to reply to them, but once, as best I can see, from your previous posts) or you're
happier on ROM where you do whatever you wish, but don't crosspost here.

"Community standards" vary and each newsgroup has its standards. Many (I don't know
if all) support newsgroups object to most (not all) crossposts. The prostate cancer
has recently been getting a small taste of the mess this newsgroup has been in with
crossposters and also object to crossposting. So it's not just me, it's for the
better of this newsgroup (and all who want to give or receive support).

There's enough loonies, trolls, spammers, idjits (and crossposters) posting here.
You're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Don't crosspost here.
J

J wrote:
> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > J wrote:
> > > csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > J wrote:
> >
> > > > > Your crosspost inappropriate. Stop it.
> > > >
> > > > I crossposted to ROM because I've found a much more open and friendly
> > > > environment there. More responsive than ASC. <snip>
> > > Crossposting is inappropriate but for a few types of posts (between the cancer
> > > communities)
> >
> > <snip Usenet protocols and telling me what to do>
>
> I am asking you on behalf of all (current and future) cancer patients and loved
> ones.
> (some of whom cannot filter). That's not difficult to understand, even for a Mensa.
>
> You're either part of the cancer community and talk with others here (which you
> haven't much - there's other colorectal cancer patients here and no attempt from you
> to reply to them, but once, as best I can see, from your previous posts) or you're
> happier on ROM where you do whatever you wish, but don't crosspost here.
>
> "Community standards" vary and each newsgroup has its standards. Many (I don't know
> if all) support newsgroups object to most (not all) crossposts. The prostate cancer
> has recently been getting a small taste of the mess this newsgroup has been in with
> crossposters and also object to crossposting. So it's not just me, it's for the
> better of this newsgroup (and all who want to give or receive support).
>
> There's enough loonies, trolls, spammers, idjits (and crossposters) posting here.
> You're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Don't crosspost here.
> J

I wasn't aware that you were the moderator here. Again, if you don't
like it, filter. It isn't hard. It also shouldn't be hard to
understand. Your attempted insult to Mensans is noted, but not
effective. It just denotes a weak mind with a bit of envy.
I don't believe you speak on behalf of all cancer patients and loved
ones. You seem to have a very exaggerated view of yourself.
FWIW, I'm part of many communities, some of which overlap. If you
can't understand that concept, fine. I do read here a bit, but don't
feel compelled to post a lot. That doesn't remove me from the
community.

You seem to be the only one who has a problem with this. I'm not
trolling, or flaming, or doing anything else generally considered
objectionable. If you feel the need to control a newsgroup, you're
free to create a moderated group. If you feel the need to scream and
cry and toss around insults, don't be surprised if not everyone gives
the response you crave.

Don't complain about crossposting.

---
CSM

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:
> You seem to be the only one who has a problem with this.

No, she's the only one who pointed it out to you.

--
"...by March 2000, President Clinton informed Congress he could no longer
certify that 'North Korea is not seeking to develop or acquire the capability
to enrich uranium.'"
<http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/northkorea/nuclear.html>

what he said...
Fig

On Nov 2, 12:06 pm, clifto <cli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> csm7...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > You seem to be the only one who has a problem with this.No, she's the only one who pointed it out to you.
>
> --
> "...by March 2000, President Clinton informed Congress he could no longer
> certify that 'North Korea is not seeking to develop or acquire the capability
> to enrich uranium.'"
> <http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/northkorea/nuclear.html>

OK, I'll play along. Three people in all of Usenet say they have some
sort of problem with crossposting. Just for grins, could any of you
tell me exactly what harm it does you when someone crossposts to this
group and one other? Do any of you understand the purpose of
crossposting, and why it is enabled by virtually every tool for
accessing Usenet? Do you understand the differences between
crossposting and multiposting, and the reason the former is generally
accepted in the Usenet community as preferable?

Figgertoes wrote:
> what he said...
> Fig
>
> On Nov 2, 12:06 pm, clifto <cli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > csm7...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > You seem to be the only one who has a problem with this.No, she's the only one who pointed it out to you.
> >
> > --
> > "...by March 2000, President Clinton informed Congress he could no longer
> > certify that 'North Korea is not seeking to develop or acquire the capability
> > to enrich uranium.'"
> > <http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/northkorea/nuclear.html>

It generally leads to a lot of unwelcome noise & confusion as people
from other newsgroups who might be unaware of the crosspost respond to
all & the topics get off the cancer track.

We have many ill people posting here - sometimes they are in pain &
need help. Sometimes they are simply exhausted & don't need that sort
of distraction. Some had chemo or radiation treatments today & just
want to let everyone know how they're doing & maybe ask a question.
They aren't necessarily up for a philosophical discussion.

We ask that you respect our wishes here & help us keep the group quiet,
just as you would if you were personally visiting a dear friend who had
cancer.

Fig

On Nov 3, 4:47 pm, csm7...@hotmail.com wrote:
> OK, I'll play along. Three people in all of Usenet say they have some
> sort of problem with crossposting. Just for grins, could any of you
> tell me exactly what harm it does you when someone crossposts to this
> group and one other? Do any of you understand the purpose of
> crossposting, and why it is enabled by virtually every tool for
> accessing Usenet? Do you understand the differences between
> crossposting and multiposting, and the reason the former is generally
> accepted in the Usenet community as preferable?
>
>
>
> Figgertoes wrote:
> > what he said...
> > Fig
>
> > On Nov 2, 12:06 pm, clifto <cli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > csm7...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > You seem to be the only one who has a problem with this.No, she's the only one who pointed it out to you.
>
> > > --
> > > "...by March 2000, President Clinton informed Congress he could no longer
> > > certify that 'North Korea is not seeking to develop or acquire the capability
> > > to enrich uranium.'"
> > > <http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/northkorea/nuclear.html>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

csm7532@hotmail.com said...
> OK, I'll play along. Three people in all of Usenet say they have some
> sort of problem with crossposting. Just for grins, could any of you
> tell me exactly what harm it does you when someone crossposts to this
> group and one other? Do any of you understand the purpose of
> crossposting, and why it is enabled by virtually every tool for
> accessing Usenet? Do you understand the differences between
> crossposting and multiposting, and the reason the former is generally
> accepted in the Usenet community as preferable?
>
I understand. And I'm not the only one here who does. A lot of folk
here only subscribe to this one newsgroup and aren't familiar with the
way Usenet works. I'm not convinced that trying to 'run' a Usenet
newsgroup along the lines of an online forum is such a good idea. For
the sake of peace and quiet, however, I don't usually get involved in
this sort of argument.

--
Em

Thank you for your response.

Figgertoes wrote:
> It generally leads to a lot of unwelcome noise & confusion as people
> from other newsgroups who might be unaware of the crosspost respond to
> all & the topics get off the cancer track.

The only topic of the original post I made in this thread was
cancer-related, so this isn't a valid complaint in this case.

> We have many ill people posting here - sometimes they are in pain &
> need help. Sometimes they are simply exhausted & don't need that sort
> of distraction. Some had chemo or radiation treatments today & just
> want to let everyone know how they're doing & maybe ask a question.
> They aren't necessarily up for a philosophical discussion.

There was no philosophical discussion in that post, so no problem
there, either. Others responded with their opinions about chemo, with
which I disagree, but they were still entirely on topic. Again, anyone
can set up filters or simply not read from posters he or she doesn't
like. I do this quite a bit. I don't have the energy to read all the
posts in a group, and avoid both uninteresting posters and
uninteresting threads. For someone to tell others how they're doing,
or ask a question, they don't even need to read other threads---they
can just post a new thread. Again, this should be no problem.

> We ask that you respect our wishes here & help us keep the group quiet,
> just as you would if you were personally visiting a dear friend who had
> cancer.

I didn't make any noise with that post. It was quite simply a bit of
advice on nausea abatement. While many here may have been aware of it,
some may not, and I intended to help those. Not all cancer patients
read here, possibly because of the caustic and antagonistic attitude
reflected in threads like this one.

For what it's worth, J's nastiness unrelated to cancer and its
treatment was the start of the noise and off-topic discussion here.
Then, after repeatedly telling me what to do, J wasn't bright enough to
pick up my irony, and whined about being told what to do, and claimed
to be speaking on behalf of "all (current and future) cancer patients
and loved ones". That was extremely overblown and egotistical, which
seems to be par for the course for J. I am both a cancer patient and a
loved one of some cancer patients, and J doesn't speak for me. I
suspect there are many J doesn't speak for. I could make the same
silly claim, but my ego isn't quite *that* big. J should really start
a moderated group, and could then legitimately be the ruler. I'll
stick with unmoderated groups, and follow common Usenet etiquette.

---
CSM

>
> Fig
>
> On Nov 3, 4:47 pm, csm7...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > OK, I'll play along. Three people in all of Usenet say they have some
> > sort of problem with crossposting. Just for grins, could any of you
> > tell me exactly what harm it does you when someone crossposts to this
> > group and one other? Do any of you understand the purpose of
> > crossposting, and why it is enabled by virtually every tool for
> > accessing Usenet? Do you understand the differences between
> > crossposting and multiposting, and the reason the former is generally
> > accepted in the Usenet community as preferable?
> >
> >
> >
> > Figgertoes wrote:
> > > what he said...
> > > Fig
> >
> > > On Nov 2, 12:06 pm, clifto <cli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > csm7...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > You seem to be the only one who has a problem with this.No, she's the only one who pointed it out to you.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > "...by March 2000, President Clinton informed Congress he could no longer
> > > > certify that 'North Korea is not seeking to develop or acquire the capability
> > > > to enrich uranium.'"
> > > > <http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/northkorea/nuclear.html>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

>Don't complain about crossposting.




J sets the standards for participation here. If you don't like
it----LEAVE!!

maryanne kehoe wrote:

> J sets the standards for participation here. I


Always wondering: by what authority does this font of all knowledge
set the standards ? ?

turtletrot1@gmail.com said...
>
> maryanne kehoe wrote:
>
> > J sets the standards for participation here. I
>
>
> Always wondering: by what authority does this font of all knowledge
> set the standards ? ?
>
None but her own and that given implicitly by other subscribers to the
group.

--
Em

We've heard it all before.

Others here just said they don't like crossposting on this ng. No
regular here has posted saying "bring it on." Many of us have seen the
confused posts of cancer patients saying, "who are all of those people
(in a crossposted thread) that I've never seen before & what tangent
are they off on?" They were people from other ngs responding to a
crossposting from their own (non-asc) point of view.

We just want to keep the airwaves clear here for cancer patients &
their loved ones. Anyone have a problem with that?

Fig

On Nov 4, 4:48 am, turtletr...@gmail.com wrote:
> maryanne kehoe wrote:
> > J sets the standards for participation here. IAlways wondering: by what authority does this font of all knowledge
> set the standards ? ?

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:

> J wrote:
> > csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > J wrote:
> > > > csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > J wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > Your crosspost inappropriate. Stop it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I crossposted to ROM because I've found a much more open and friendly
> > > > > environment there. More responsive than ASC. <snip>
> > > > Crossposting is inappropriate but for a few types of posts (between the cancer
> > > > communities)
> > >
> > > <snip Usenet protocols and telling me what to do>
> >
> > I am asking you on behalf of all (current and future) cancer patients and loved
> > ones.
> > (some of whom cannot filter). That's not difficult to understand, even for a Mensa.
> >
> > You're either part of the cancer community and talk with others here (which you
> > haven't much - there's other colorectal cancer patients here and no attempt from you
> > to reply to them, but once, as best I can see, from your previous posts) or you're
> > happier on ROM where you do whatever you wish, but don't crosspost here.
> >
> > "Community standards" vary and each newsgroup has its standards. Many (I don't know
> > if all) support newsgroups object to most (not all) crossposts. The prostate cancer
> > has recently been getting a small taste of the mess this newsgroup has been in with
> > crossposters and also object to crossposting. So it's not just me, it's for the
> > better of this newsgroup (and all who want to give or receive support).
> >
> > There's enough loonies, trolls, spammers, idjits (and crossposters) posting here.
> > You're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Don't crosspost here.
> > J
>
> I wasn't aware that you were the moderator here.


I've been lurking here for years and I generally agree with your
"moderator" comments. I simply killfile such disagreeable folks, it
lowers the signal/noise ratio considerably...

[A friendly reminder: If one is going to crosspost it's helpful to put
somthing like "x - posted to such and such a group and such and such a
group" at the beginning of one's reply -- it's a basic courtesy that
will give a "heads up" to other posters...]


:-)

--
Best
Greg

Gregory Morrow said...
> I've been lurking here for years and I generally agree with your
> "moderator" comments. I simply killfile such disagreeable folks, it
> lowers the signal/noise ratio considerably...
>
> [A friendly reminder: If one is going to crosspost it's helpful to put
> somthing like "x - posted to such and such a group and such and such a
> group" at the beginning of one's reply -- it's a basic courtesy that
> will give a "heads up" to other posters...]
>
Agreed. Doesn't take long and helps those who don't necessarily have
headers showing with the post bodies.

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in news:1161967169.143903.39510
@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


> Try your local Whole Foods or other granola head shop,
> and look for tins of little mint-like ginger pills called St. Claire's
> Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale or ginger
> beer is also hepful.

The St. Claire's are great & convenient to carry. Socks used them often to
help with the nausea. The boxes look like Altoids. They are ginger though,
not minty.

Fig

Figgertoes said...
> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in news:1161967169.143903.39510
> @i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> > Try your local Whole Foods or other granola head shop,
> > and look for tins of little mint-like ginger pills called St. Claire's
> > Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale or ginger
> > beer is also hepful.
>
> The St. Claire's are great & convenient to carry. Socks used them often to
> help with the nausea. The boxes look like Altoids. They are ginger though,
> not minty.
>
I wish we could get those here, but I've not seen them. I feel a
googlegoogle coming on...

--
Em, who likes ginger rather a lot :-)

Emily wrote:
> Figgertoes said...
> > csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in news:1161967169.143903.39510
> > @i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> >
> >
> > > Try your local Whole Foods or other granola head shop,
> > > and look for tins of little mint-like ginger pills called St. Claire's
> > > Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale or ginger
> > > beer is also hepful.
> >
> > The St. Claire's are great & convenient to carry. Socks used them often to
> > help with the nausea. The boxes look like Altoids. They are ginger though,
> > not minty.
> >
> I wish we could get those here, but I've not seen them. I feel a
> googlegoogle coming on...
>
> --
> Em, who likes ginger rather a lot :-)

Me too (like ginger). These are made here in Boulder CO & are too
healthy for words.
Fig

Figgertoes wrote:
> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in news:1161967169.143903.39510
> @i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> > Try your local Whole Foods or other granola head shop,
> > and look for tins of little mint-like ginger pills called St. Claire's
> > Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale or ginger
> > beer is also hepful.
>
> The St. Claire's are great & convenient to carry. Socks used them often to
> help with the nausea. The boxes look like Altoids. They are ginger though,
> not minty.

Yep, those are the ones I mean. I carry a tin in my jacket (which I
wear nearly everywhere now that it's cooling too much for Oxaliplatin),
plus one handy where I watch TV, one by my bedside, and a big
collection of them in the pantry for replacement. I've tried a number
of alternatives, including some that even look like Altoids, and
various gummy ginger candies. So far, none are as good, or effective,
as the St. Claire's.

Emily wrote:
> Gregory Morrow said...
> > I've been lurking here for years and I generally agree with your
> > "moderator" comments. I simply killfile such disagreeable folks, it
> > lowers the signal/noise ratio considerably...
> >
> > [A friendly reminder: If one is going to crosspost it's helpful to put
> > somthing like "x - posted to such and such a group and such and such a
> > group" at the beginning of one's reply -- it's a basic courtesy that
> > will give a "heads up" to other posters...]
> >
> Agreed. Doesn't take long and helps those who don't necessarily have
> headers showing with the post bodies.

Interesting. I hadn't heard that idea before, nor have I seen any
Usenet tool that doesn't show the groups. What tools handle Usenet
this way, not telling you what groups are involved?

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CSM

Emily wrote:
> turtletrot1@gmail.com said...
> >
> > maryanne kehoe wrote:
> >
> > > J sets the standards for participation here. I
> >
> >
> > Always wondering: by what authority does this font of all knowledge
> > set the standards ? ?
> >
> None but her own and that given implicitly by other subscribers to the
> group.
>
> --
> Em

In Usenet terms, this means "none". To have authority, she needs a
moderated group, which she can readily set up and be the boss of. I
certainly have no argument against her doing so, and anyone who wants
to give her authority explicitly instead of implicitly can then do so.

---
CSM

csm7532@hotmail.com said...
>
> Emily wrote:
> > Gregory Morrow said...
> > > I've been lurking here for years and I generally agree with your
> > > "moderator" comments. I simply killfile such disagreeable folks, it
> > > lowers the signal/noise ratio considerably...
> > >
> > > [A friendly reminder: If one is going to crosspost it's helpful to put
> > > somthing like "x - posted to such and such a group and such and such a
> > > group" at the beginning of one's reply -- it's a basic courtesy that
> > > will give a "heads up" to other posters...]
> > >
> > Agreed. Doesn't take long and helps those who don't necessarily have
> > headers showing with the post bodies.
>
> Interesting. I hadn't heard that idea before, nor have I seen any
> Usenet tool that doesn't show the groups. What tools handle Usenet
> this way, not telling you what groups are involved?
>
It's not a Usenet tool as such - it's the way some people have their
newsreaders set up. I have mine set up so that the basic headers are
displayed and crossposts show in a different colour from the rest. Even
so, I have been known to miss the fact that things are being
crossposted. OK, so that's my own fault for being tired or unobservant,
but I'm in good health (it's my mother who has the cancer, not me) and
not in constant pain. It's a bit much to expect people who have maybe
found Usenet for the first time or who aren't concentrating too well
(because of their treatment or emotional state perhaps) to notice
everything. Saying at the start of a post that it's being crossposted
highlights the fact and makes it easier for all of us.

--
Em

csm7532@hotmail.com said...
>
> Emily wrote:
> > turtletrot1@gmail.com said...
> > >
> > > maryanne kehoe wrote:
> > >
> > > > J sets the standards for participation here. I
> > >
> > >
> > > Always wondering: by what authority does this font of all knowledge
> > > set the standards ? ?
> > >
> > None but her own and that given implicitly by other subscribers to the
> > group.
> >
>
> In Usenet terms, this means "none". To have authority, she needs a
> moderated group, which she can readily set up and be the boss of. I
> certainly have no argument against her doing so, and anyone who wants
> to give her authority explicitly instead of implicitly can then do so.
>
Tell you what, for someone who's so well-versed in Usenet as you are you
have your newsreader set up amazingly badly. I had to strip my .sig
from the previous post myself. I wonder how many people have failed to
see your posts because although you can selectively post your newsreader
is failing to strip .sigs? Oh wait though, I see - you're posting
through Google Groups? And trying to educate *us* about using Usenet?
Sheesh.

--
Em, bored with this argument now.

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1162852791.991721.250930@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:

>
> Figgertoes wrote:
>> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in news:1161967169.143903.39510
>> @i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>> > Try your local Whole Foods or other granola head shop,
>> > and look for tins of little mint-like ginger pills called St.
>> > Claire's Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale
>> > or ginger beer is also hepful.
>>
>> The St. Claire's are great & convenient to carry. Socks used them
>> often to help with the nausea. The boxes look like Altoids. They are
>> ginger though, not minty.
>
> Yep, those are the ones I mean. I carry a tin in my jacket (which I
> wear nearly everywhere now that it's cooling too much for
> Oxaliplatin), plus one handy where I watch TV, one by my bedside, and
> a big collection of them in the pantry for replacement. I've tried a
> number of alternatives, including some that even look like Altoids,
> and various gummy ginger candies. So far, none are as good, or
> effective, as the St. Claire's.
>
>

There's a gummy one I like though. It's more spicy-hot. Ginger Candy
Ting Ting Jahe made in Indonesia. I find it in Oriental groceries,
individually wrapped in a bag. Also yummy & also from the Oriental
grocery is Ginger Drink by gold kili. It's always individual packets &
comes either in a green box or green bag. It's more like teeny balls than
a powder & dissolves in water. I especially enjoy as a hot tea with
lemon, but you can drink it cold too. Before I found that, I would slice
up ginger & steep it in boiling water & add lemons & honey, but I think I
like this better. Ingredients: ginger, honey.

Fig

Figgertoes wrote:
> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in
> news:1162852791.991721.250930@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
> >
> > Figgertoes wrote:
> >> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in news:1161967169.143903.39510
> >> @i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >>
> >> > Try your local Whole Foods or other granola head shop,
> >> > and look for tins of little mint-like ginger pills called St.
> >> > Claire's Organic Ginger Snaps. These things are great. Ginger ale
> >> > or ginger beer is also hepful.
> >>
> >> The St. Claire's are great & convenient to carry. Socks used them
> >> often to help with the nausea. The boxes look like Altoids. They are
> >> ginger though, not minty.
> >
> > Yep, those are the ones I mean. I carry a tin in my jacket (which I
> > wear nearly everywhere now that it's cooling too much for
> > Oxaliplatin), plus one handy where I watch TV, one by my bedside, and
> > a big collection of them in the pantry for replacement. I've tried a
> > number of alternatives, including some that even look like Altoids,
> > and various gummy ginger candies. So far, none are as good, or
> > effective, as the St. Claire's.
> >
> >
>
> There's a gummy one I like though. It's more spicy-hot. Ginger Candy
> Ting Ting Jahe made in Indonesia. I find it in Oriental groceries,
> individually wrapped in a bag. Also yummy & also from the Oriental
> grocery is Ginger Drink by gold kili. It's always individual packets &
> comes either in a green box or green bag. It's more like teeny balls than
> a powder & dissolves in water. I especially enjoy as a hot tea with
> lemon, but you can drink it cold too. Before I found that, I would slice
> up ginger & steep it in boiling water & add lemons & honey, but I think I
> like this better. Ingredients: ginger, honey.
>
> Fig

Thanks for the post. This is the kind of helpful interchange and
exchange of ideas I was hoping for with this thread. I hope this helps
patients coping with the effects of chemo, and maybe even those with
other nausea problems (like air sickness). I like the overall effects
of ginger better than prochloperazine or Emend. Maybe I'll get a
prescription for tetrahydrocannibinols next!

Emily wrote:
> csm7532@hotmail.com said...
> >
> > Emily wrote:
> > > Gregory Morrow said...
> > > > I've been lurking here for years and I generally agree with your
> > > > "moderator" comments. I simply killfile such disagreeable folks, it
> > > > lowers the signal/noise ratio considerably...
> > > >
> > > > [A friendly reminder: If one is going to crosspost it's helpful to put
> > > > somthing like "x - posted to such and such a group and such and such a
> > > > group" at the beginning of one's reply -- it's a basic courtesy that
> > > > will give a "heads up" to other posters...]
> > > >
> > > Agreed. Doesn't take long and helps those who don't necessarily have
> > > headers showing with the post bodies.
> >
> > Interesting. I hadn't heard that idea before, nor have I seen any
> > Usenet tool that doesn't show the groups. What tools handle Usenet
> > this way, not tel