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On Dec 26, 8:09 am, "syeh" <syehulm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Invitation!
>
> NOW WE MAKE YOU EASY!

This is a GOAL?

Sorry, couldn't resist,
Fig

Figgertoes wrote:
> On Dec 26, 8:09 am, "syeh" <syehulm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Invitation!
> >
> > NOW WE MAKE YOU EASY!
>
> This is a GOAL?

Only since the dawn of Man. Of course, we want to keep our daughters
from being easy, so it's a tricky goal at best. Responding to a
predatory spammer is probably not the best thing to do, but when we can
find some humor in the trash, why not, eh?

---
CSM
Plugged in for the 12th and last time. Yeah!

csm7532@hotmail.com said...
>
> Figgertoes wrote:
> > On Dec 26, 8:09 am, "syeh" <syehulm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Invitation!
> > >
> > > NOW WE MAKE YOU EASY!
> >
> > This is a GOAL?
>
> Only since the dawn of Man. Of course, we want to keep our daughters
> from being easy, so it's a tricky goal at best. Responding to a
> predatory spammer is probably not the best thing to do, but when we can
> find some humor in the trash, why not, eh?
>
Actually, and apropos to nothing, daughters are seldom easy. Daughters
are damned hard work. Give me sons any day. Well, I say 'any day', but
can I have a break from them at weekends please unless they are the sort
of sons who offer to mow the lawn (stop laughing) or make tea or cook
lunch... <wistful> I wonder if any such offspring exist? </wistful>

--
Em, who's had more than enough of the annual season of "let's get drunk,
shove a fist through car windows and break off wing mirrors".

Emily <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:MPG.1ffe65749c3f6d0f98c5c7
@news.individual.net:

> csm7532@hotmail.com said...
>>
>> Figgertoes wrote:
>> > On Dec 26, 8:09 am, "syeh" <syehulm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Invitation!
>> > >
>> > > NOW WE MAKE YOU EASY!
>> >
>> > This is a GOAL?
>>
>> Only since the dawn of Man. Of course, we want to keep our daughters
>> from being easy, so it's a tricky goal at best. Responding to a
>> predatory spammer is probably not the best thing to do, but when we can
>> find some humor in the trash, why not, eh?
>>
> Actually, and apropos to nothing, daughters are seldom easy. Daughters
> are damned hard work. Give me sons any day. Well, I say 'any day', but
> can I have a break from them at weekends please unless they are the sort
> of sons who offer to mow the lawn (stop laughing) or make tea or cook
> lunch... <wistful> I wonder if any such offspring exist? </wistful>
>
Maybe this is where American & Welsh slang differ. Easy to us means
promiscuous.

Take care not to harm your car over it; you will only have to repair.

Hugs,
Fig

"Emily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ffe65749c3f6d0f98c5c7@news.individual.ne t...
> csm7532@hotmail.com said...
>>
>> Figgertoes wrote:
>> > On Dec 26, 8:09 am, "syeh" <syehulm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Invitation!
>> > >
>> > > NOW WE MAKE YOU EASY!
>> >
>> > This is a GOAL?
>>
>> Only since the dawn of Man. Of course, we want to keep our daughters
>> from being easy, so it's a tricky goal at best. Responding to a
>> predatory spammer is probably not the best thing to do, but when we can
>> find some humor in the trash, why not, eh?
>>
> Actually, and apropos to nothing, daughters are seldom easy. Daughters
> are damned hard work. Give me sons any day. Well, I say 'any day', but
> can I have a break from them at weekends please unless they are the sort
> of sons who offer to mow the lawn (stop laughing) or make tea or cook
> lunch... <wistful> I wonder if any such offspring exist? </wistful>
>
> --
> Em, who's had more than enough of the annual season of "let's get drunk,
> shove a fist through car windows and break off wing mirrors".

If you want to test your theory (and I can't not having had sons) you can
always borrow a couple more girls, mine certainly aren't easy in either
translation ;-)

What's with the sig Em??

Hugs

Alayne

Figgertoes said...
> >> Only since the dawn of Man. Of course, we want to keep our daughters
> >> from being easy, so it's a tricky goal at best. Responding to a
> >> predatory spammer is probably not the best thing to do, but when we can
> >> find some humor in the trash, why not, eh?
> >>
> > Actually, and apropos to nothing, daughters are seldom easy. Daughters
> > are damned hard work. Give me sons any day. Well, I say 'any day', but
> > can I have a break from them at weekends please unless they are the sort
> > of sons who offer to mow the lawn (stop laughing) or make tea or cook
> > lunch... <wistful> I wonder if any such offspring exist? </wistful>
> >
> Maybe this is where American & Welsh slang differ. Easy to us means
> promiscuous.
>
Oh, it can mean that here too! I knew someone would pick me up on it,
but I was in rather a silly mood when I posted. Still am: it's that or
go mad. Right now it's p***ing down with rain and the hole in the roof
isn't getting any smaller. Drip, drip, drip on to part of my bedroom
ceiling; drip, drip, drip on to part of my 11 yr old's bedroom ceiling;
trickle, run, trickle down the wall of the living room below. Oh joy.
Oh bliss. And have you ever tried to find a roofer at this time of
year?

But to come back to the original subject, I'm lucky that my 16 yr old
daughter 'looks' at the whole sex thing and says "ewww, gross!" which I
think is teenspeak for "oh deary me, that doesn't sound very nice" :-)

--
Em

Alayne said...
> > Actually, and apropos to nothing, daughters are seldom easy. Daughters
> > are damned hard work. Give me sons any day. Well, I say 'any day', but
> > can I have a break from them at weekends please unless they are the sort
> > of sons who offer to mow the lawn (stop laughing) or make tea or cook
> > lunch... <wistful> I wonder if any such offspring exist? </wistful>
> >
> >
> > Em, who's had more than enough of the annual season of "let's get drunk,
> > shove a fist through car windows and break off wing mirrors".
>
> If you want to test your theory (and I can't not having had sons) you can
> always borrow a couple more girls, mine certainly aren't easy in either
> translation ;-)
>
> What's with the sig Em??

Sorry 'bout that, I wasn't in the most sensible of moods...

'Tis the annual season of bah humbug round here, as I don't doubt it is
everywhere else for people living 'twixt a pub and the pub customers'
houses. Boxing day night, sometime between me getting home and me
remembering that I'd promised to put the bins out for a friend, one of
the local intoxicated shoved a fist through my rear window, shattering
it to smithereens. The knock-on effect was a large crack in the front
windscreen, which we didn't discover until the following day. The next
evening we had a wing mirror wrenched out of position - thankfully it
was amenable to being popped back into place. I've had the windows
fixed and Autoglass did a brilliant job of getting as much glass out of
the boot as they could; however had I known my car was due to be
vacuumed I'd have emptied the boot of all the rubbish and usual tat that
accompanies me beforehand.

Apparently I'm not the only victim: there's been a spate of smashed car
windows (nowt stolen), scratched paintwork, damaged wing mirrors, you
name it. My 35 yr old car has been taken to the private car parking
area of a local old folks home. It seemed appropriate somehow. I'll be
asking them if I can leave it there until after the new year's eve
silliness I think. *Sigh*

There are much nicer things happening here
http://www.popularfront.com/snowdays/

For those who've not seen it, a chance to make gorgeous snowflakes, add
messages and send them to other people via a URL. Or just make
snowflakes anonymously. Addictive but harmless year-round silliness :-)

--
Em, feeling happier today.

Emily said...
> There are much nicer things happening here
> http://www.popularfront.com/snowdays/
>
Like this one:

snowflake no. 4086663

--
Em

Emily wrote:
> Figgertoes said...
> > >> Only since the dawn of Man. Of course, we want to keep our daughters
> > >> from being easy, so it's a tricky goal at best. Responding to a
> > >> predatory spammer is probably not the best thing to do, but when we can
> > >> find some humor in the trash, why not, eh?
> > >>
> > > Actually, and apropos to nothing, daughters are seldom easy. Daughters
> > > are damned hard work. Give me sons any day. Well, I say 'any day', but
> > > can I have a break from them at weekends please unless they are the sort
> > > of sons who offer to mow the lawn (stop laughing) or make tea or cook
> > > lunch... <wistful> I wonder if any such offspring exist? </wistful>
> > >
> > Maybe this is where American & Welsh slang differ. Easy to us means
> > promiscuous.
> >
> Oh, it can mean that here too! I knew someone would pick me up on it,
> but I was in rather a silly mood when I posted. Still am: it's that or
> go mad. Right now it's p***ing down with rain and the hole in the roof
> isn't getting any smaller. Drip, drip, drip on to part of my bedroom
> ceiling; drip, drip, drip on to part of my 11 yr old's bedroom ceiling;
> trickle, run, trickle down the wall of the living room below. Oh joy.
> Oh bliss. And have you ever tried to find a roofer at this time of
> year?

You should try here. We're into a big snowstorm, before we've had a
chance to recover from an earlier storm. I already had to delay my
last chemo by nearly a week, and now it looks like I may have to delay
the disconnect, and wear a useless pump around until things clear up.
Or not. I just got a call saying the center is open, so I'll try to
get down there (usually :30 drive, today probably more like an hour)
and be done with it.

> But to come back to the original subject, I'm lucky that my 16 yr old
> daughter 'looks' at the whole sex thing and says "ewww, gross!" which I
> think is teenspeak for "oh deary me, that doesn't sound very nice" :-)

Beware. I have a friend with a daughter who was in the principal's
office when a girl came in, dropped to the floor, and had a baby. My
friend's daughter told her mother that night that she'd never have sex,
having seen a messy, painful birth up close. She never finished high
school, having changed her mind, and had some loser's baby. Last I
heard, she had a second, married the loser father of the second, and
was firmly stuck in a dead-end life. This was a very bright girl, who
could have become anything she wanted to.
My own daughter, also a very bright girl, fortunately followed a
different path, and is in college. One of my nieces, a few years
older, is recovering from heroin addiction that started in high school,
with none of us the wiser. You never know what people will do, even
your own family. I hope yours make good decisions, and get good
results.

---
CSM

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1167405911.778023.112370@n51g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:

>
> Emily wrote:
>> Figgertoes said...
>> > >> Only since the dawn of Man. Of course, we want to keep our
>> > >> daughters from being easy, so it's a tricky goal at best.
>> > >> Responding to a predatory spammer is probably not the best thing
>> > >> to do, but when we can find some humor in the trash, why not,
>> > >> eh?
>> > >>
>> > > Actually, and apropos to nothing, daughters are seldom easy.
>> > > Daughters are damned hard work. Give me sons any day. Well, I
>> > > say 'any day', but can I have a break from them at weekends
>> > > please unless they are the sort of sons who offer to mow the lawn
>> > > (stop laughing) or make tea or cook lunch... <wistful> I wonder
>> > > if any such offspring exist? </wistful>
>> > >
>> > Maybe this is where American & Welsh slang differ. Easy to us
>> > means promiscuous.
>> >
>> Oh, it can mean that here too! I knew someone would pick me up on
>> it, but I was in rather a silly mood when I posted. Still am: it's
>> that or go mad. Right now it's p***ing down with rain and the hole
>> in the roof isn't getting any smaller. Drip, drip, drip on to part
>> of my bedroom ceiling; drip, drip, drip on to part of my 11 yr old's
>> bedroom ceiling; trickle, run, trickle down the wall of the living
>> room below. Oh joy. Oh bliss. And have you ever tried to find a
>> roofer at this time of year?
>
> You should try here. We're into a big snowstorm, before we've had a
> chance to recover from an earlier storm. I already had to delay my
> last chemo by nearly a week, and now it looks like I may have to delay
> the disconnect, and wear a useless pump around until things clear up.
> Or not. I just got a call saying the center is open, so I'll try to
> get down there (usually :30 drive, today probably more like an hour)
> and be done with it.
>
>> But to come back to the original subject, I'm lucky that my 16 yr old
>> daughter 'looks' at the whole sex thing and says "ewww, gross!" which
>> I think is teenspeak for "oh deary me, that doesn't sound very nice"
>> :-)
>
> Beware. I have a friend with a daughter who was in the principal's
> office when a girl came in, dropped to the floor, and had a baby. My
> friend's daughter told her mother that night that she'd never have
> sex, having seen a messy, painful birth up close. She never finished
> high school, having changed her mind, and had some loser's baby. Last
> I heard, she had a second, married the loser father of the second, and
> was firmly stuck in a dead-end life. This was a very bright girl, who
> could have become anything she wanted to.
> My own daughter, also a very bright girl, fortunately followed a
> different path, and is in college. One of my nieces, a few years
> older, is recovering from heroin addiction that started in high
> school, with none of us the wiser. You never know what people will
> do, even your own family. I hope yours make good decisions, and get
> good results.
>
> ---
> CSM
>
>
I wonder how parents can be so clueless, yet it happens even in families
where parenting skills appear to be strong & the family close-knit. A
friend's son died of a heroin overdose & no one in the family knew he had
ever taken it. Maybe he had just started. Heroin has made it into the
mainstream.

Your friend's daughter may wake up some day & turn her life around. It's
happened before. Hope it does for her.

Fig

Emily <me@privacy.net> wrote in
news:MPG.1fff32c79131c9d98c5df@news.individual.net :

> Figgertoes said...
>> >> Only since the dawn of Man. Of course, we want to keep our
>> >> daughters from being easy, so it's a tricky goal at best.
>> >> Responding to a predatory spammer is probably not the best thing
>> >> to do, but when we can find some humor in the trash, why not, eh?
>> >>
>> > Actually, and apropos to nothing, daughters are seldom easy.
>> > Daughters are damned hard work. Give me sons any day. Well, I say
>> > 'any day', but can I have a break from them at weekends please
>> > unless they are the sort of sons who offer to mow the lawn (stop
>> > laughing) or make tea or cook lunch... <wistful> I wonder if any
>> > such offspring exist? </wistful>
>> >
>> Maybe this is where American & Welsh slang differ. Easy to us means
>> promiscuous.
>>
> Oh, it can mean that here too! I knew someone would pick me up on it,
> but I was in rather a silly mood when I posted. Still am: it's that
> or go mad. Right now it's p***ing down with rain and the hole in the
> roof isn't getting any smaller. Drip, drip, drip on to part of my
> bedroom ceiling; drip, drip, drip on to part of my 11 yr old's bedroom
> ceiling; trickle, run, trickle down the wall of the living room below.
> Oh joy. Oh bliss. And have you ever tried to find a roofer at this
> time of year?
>
> But to come back to the original subject, I'm lucky that my 16 yr old
> daughter 'looks' at the whole sex thing and says "ewww, gross!" which
> I think is teenspeak for "oh deary me, that doesn't sound very nice"
> :-)
>
> --
> Em

We just got hit with a second blizzard, having just gotten out from the
first. We went to Texas for Christmas & faced a difficult return trip.
Moved up reservations & managed to get back last night. Rough sledding.

I called the glass company that was coming to measure me for new window
glass just to confirm that they weren't coming, but, oh, no, they're
driving 4-wheelers. So we need to free up the walkway we piled full of
snow last night to get the car into the garage. No leaks, but I wonder
if the roof might cave.

I'm sure you know what sounds gross today may become very appealing
tomorrow. I remember reacting similarly to your daughter at one time...
The mechanics DO sound gross. But she has 4 siblings...

Fig

Emily <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:MPG.1fff3f1cce3134d398c5e1
@news.individual.net:

> http://www.popularfront.com/snowdays/

A truly beautiful flake!

Fig

We should have more rambling non-sensicle threads. Period pains to pains of
glass via easy children, not bad.

Ian

csm7532@hotmail.com said...
> > But to come back to the original subject, I'm lucky that my 16 yr old
> > daughter 'looks' at the whole sex thing and says "ewww, gross!" which I
> > think is teenspeak for "oh deary me, that doesn't sound very nice" :-)
>
> Beware. I have a friend with a daughter who was in the principal's
> office when a girl came in, dropped to the floor, and had a baby. My
> friend's daughter told her mother that night that she'd never have sex,
> having seen a messy, painful birth up close. She never finished high
> school, having changed her mind, and had some loser's baby. Last I
> heard, she had a second, married the loser father of the second, and
> was firmly stuck in a dead-end life. This was a very bright girl, who
> could have become anything she wanted to.
>
My daughter's seen a birth as well, though i somewhat more controlled
conditions: it was in hospital, and was me giving birth to her little
sister. It put her off a bit...

At the end of the day all I can do as a parent is to stand back and let
my children make their own choices. And then maybe help to pick up the
pieces if they get it a bit wrong. I shall stand by with the brush and
dustpan.

--
Em

Bozz said...
> We should have more rambling non-sensicle threads. Period pains to pains of
> glass via easy children, not bad.
>
I highly recommend uk.rec.sheds for rambling nonsense. A warm welcome
awaits - just bring your brain and your sense of humour - and leave
reality at the door.

I'll wave if I see you.

--
Em

Figgertoes said...
> We just got hit with a second blizzard, having just gotten out from the
> first. We went to Texas for Christmas & faced a difficult return trip.
> Moved up reservations & managed to get back last night. Rough sledding.
>
I think the difference is that you (generic) are used to 'weather' and
plan accordingly. Here in the UK we are surprised each year by the
onset of winter and summer; no one seems to actually plan for it, and we
even once had trains cancelled because of the "wrong type of snow".
Needless to say this caused national hilarity; however unfortunately
it's rather typical of the way the good old UK reacts to weather,
whether it be hot, dry, wet or cold.

--
Em

--

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the
intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in
one hand, Starbucks in the other, totally worn out and
screaming,

"WOO HOO what a ride!"


"Figgertoes" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98A8635DDC608figgertoes@216.168.3.44...
> Emily <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:MPG.1fff3f1cce3134d398c5e1
> @news.individual.net:
>
>> http://www.popularfront.com/snowdays/
>
> A truly beautiful flake!
>
> Fig

RE: snow on your roof.
Have a teenager and a snowblower? Set them both on the roof and blow it off
before any real damage occurs.
My sons made a fortune in Alaska. Between that and picketing for union
members who couldn't picket for some reason.
Betsy

Figgertoes wrote:
> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in
<snip>
> > Beware. I have a friend with a daughter who was in the principal's
> > office when a girl came in, dropped to the floor, and had a baby. My
> > friend's daughter told her mother that night that she'd never have
> > sex, having seen a messy, painful birth up close. She never finished
> > high school, having changed her mind, and had some loser's baby. Last
> > I heard, she had a second, married the loser father of the second, and
> > was firmly stuck in a dead-end life. This was a very bright girl, who
> > could have become anything she wanted to.
> > My own daughter, also a very bright girl, fortunately followed a
> > different path, and is in college. One of my nieces, a few years
> > older, is recovering from heroin addiction that started in high
> > school, with none of us the wiser. You never know what people will
> > do, even your own family. I hope yours make good decisions, and get
> > good results.
> >
> > ---
> > CSM
> >
> >
> I wonder how parents can be so clueless, yet it happens even in families
> where parenting skills appear to be strong & the family close-knit. A
> friend's son died of a heroin overdose & no one in the family knew he had
> ever taken it. Maybe he had just started. Heroin has made it into the
> mainstream.

I always thought my brother and his wife were great parents, and would
have never expected my niece to go that way. She's so independent and
willful, peer pressure shouldn't have even been an issue. I grew up
with heroin being an inner-city slum problem. You're right---it's gone
mainstream now, and middle-class suburban kids are trying it. I guess
if Drugs Limbaugh, with his radical anti-drug-user attitude, can get
addicted to and illegally use oxycodone, we shouldn't be surprised that
high-school kids try heroin.

> Your friend's daughter may wake up some day & turn her life around. It's
> happened before. Hope it does for her.

I certainly hope so, too. I thought very well of her, and kept trying
to convince her dad to stop being so pushy and confrontational with
her. I warned him that she'd come home pregnant one day just to spite
him, and felt pretty bad when it happened. She should have been the
star of the family, not the black sheep. Now she has a heavy burden,
and has lost a lot of potential.

---
CSM

Emily wrote:
> csm7532@hotmail.com said...
> > > But to come back to the original subject, I'm lucky that my 16 yr old
> > > daughter 'looks' at the whole sex thing and says "ewww, gross!" which I
> > > think is teenspeak for "oh deary me, that doesn't sound very nice" :-)
> >
> > Beware. I have a friend with a daughter who was in the principal's
> > office when a girl came in, dropped to the floor, and had a baby. My
> > friend's daughter told her mother that night that she'd never have sex,
> > having seen a messy, painful birth up close. She never finished high
> > school, having changed her mind, and had some loser's baby. Last I
> > heard, she had a second, married the loser father of the second, and
> > was firmly stuck in a dead-end life. This was a very bright girl, who
> > could have become anything she wanted to.
> >
> My daughter's seen a birth as well, though i somewhat more controlled
> conditions: it was in hospital, and was me giving birth to her little
> sister. It put her off a bit...

Imagine how much more it would put her off if it were a young girl,
lying on the floor in a doorway, with no helpful drugs or any
professional health care folks.

> At the end of the day all I can do as a parent is to stand back and let
> my children make their own choices. And then maybe help to pick up the
> pieces if they get it a bit wrong. I shall stand by with the brush and
> dustpan.

That's a hard lesson to learn---that your children make decisions you
can't change. I keep my fingers crossed that my daughter will keep
making (mostly) good decisions. We've done our best. Now it's her
turn.

---
CSM
Like the subject change? I think it's more appropriate for this ng.

"Emily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ffe65749c3f6d0f98c5c7@news.individual.ne t...
> csm7532@hotmail.com said...
>>
>> Figgertoes wrote:
>> > On Dec 26, 8:09 am, "syeh" <syehulm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Invitation!
>> > >
>> > > NOW WE MAKE YOU EASY!
>> >
>> > This is a GOAL?
>>
>> Only since the dawn of Man. Of course, we want to keep our daughters
>> from being easy, so it's a tricky goal at best. Responding to a
>> predatory spammer is probably not the best thing to do, but when we can
>> find some humor in the trash, why not, eh?
>>
> Actually, and apropos to nothing, daughters are seldom easy. Daughters
> are damned hard work. Give me sons any day. Well, I say 'any day', but
> can I have a break from them at weekends please unless they are the sort
> of sons who offer to mow the lawn (stop laughing) or make tea or cook
> lunch... <wistful> I wonder if any such offspring exist? </wistful>
>
> --
> Em, who's had more than enough of the annual season of "let's get drunk,
> shove a fist through car windows and break off wing mirrors".

While my sons were never so bad as to shove their fists through windows, I
can tell when they've done something that they know I won't like. It's when
they volunteer to mow the lawn, make tea, or cook a meal that I get nervous.

Pam S.

csm7532@hotmail.com said...
> > At the end of the day all I can do as a parent is to stand back and let
> > my children make their own choices. And then maybe help to pick up the
> > pieces if they get it a bit wrong. I shall stand by with the brush and
> > dustpan.
>
> That's a hard lesson to learn---that your children make decisions you
> can't change. I keep my fingers crossed that my daughter will keep
> making (mostly) good decisions. We've done our best. Now it's her
> turn.
>
It's not that hard for me to learn - I made plenty of decisions and did
plenty of things that my parents would have been horrified by had they
ever found out. I don't see it as any part of my role as a mother to
try to make my children anything other than what they already are. I
feed, house and clothe them; they can do their own thinking. I'll be
there with the whip until they're about 14 or 15 - after that they're
more or less on their own. I don't know if that makes me a bad mother,
maybe it does - but I remember only too clearly how much I resented
parental interference in my life. I reckon that my job is to be here to
answer questions and to advise as required - but I can't tell them what
to do. So far things are going all right, but I know they could change
at any moment. I also know there's not a thing I can do about it. To
be honest, I'd feel very hypocritical were I to try to influence my
children too much, because I never wanted that sort of parenting myself.
So, I stand by with the brush and dustpan, and hope that if the mire
does ever hit the fan I'll have the sense to stand well back and let my
offpring sort it out for themselves.

--
Em

tanada said...
> While my sons were never so bad as to shove their fists through windows, I
> can tell when they've done something that they know I won't like. It's when
> they volunteer to mow the lawn, make tea, or cook a meal that I get nervous.
>
*Giggle* I can relate to that! When they volunteer there's nearly
always a catch, isn't there. Just occasionally though my oldest (18)
will come up to me and put his arm around my shoulders. "Mummeeeee..."
Suspicious. What do you want? "Nothing mum, I just wanted to worry
you." And I fall for it. Every single time :-)

--
Em the sucker

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1167422004.827379.66900@k21g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

> She should have been the
> star of the family, not the black sheep. Now she has a heavy burden,
> and has lost a lot of potential.
>
> ---
> CSM

Potential still all there, waiting for her to act on it some day. I've met
quite a few who got off to non-traditional beginnings but still found their
way. Usually involves marital break-up & long years of night school.

We used to have foreign students live with us for short stretches. In
Japan & France there was only one path & only one time to take it. They
were amazed at the concept of adult students & found it quite humorous.
One of the great things about USA - lots of chances.

Fig

Emily <me@privacy.net> wrote in
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> Figgertoes said...
>>
> I think the difference is that you (generic) are used to 'weather' and
> plan accordingly.

Ha, ha. Then you should see some of the emails flying around this city.
The fellow in charge of public works announced to City Council in email
that all streets were plowed & he was off to Florida. The email got loose
to hundreds of others whose streets were not plowed at all (mine included,
entire subdivision). It's my email that apparently started a snowball (pun
intended) that keeps rolling, rolling.

Our entire transit system stopped a week ago for one day during the worst
of the storm. It takes a big one to cause that, but it happens. Our
airport closed for days this past week with stranded passengers camping out
there. Many didn't make their Christmas destinations. Had I kept my
original flight last night, the plane got here (flight after that one
cancelled), but getting home would have been difficult to impossible.

Fig

"betsy" <betsy958@TRASHoptonline.net> wrote in news:tndlh.290$mZ.16
@newsfe11.lga:

Betsy, your message disappears when I reply.

Snowblower too large for roof & no teenager. Alas. Neighbor has a tool
that acts like large squegee for roof. Telescoping handle. Neighbors out
using it, filling up their shovelled driveways with roof snow. Me with
cuppa hot tea, watching. Thinking of making popcorn. It's cold out there!

Fig

csm7532@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1167422258.256228.138670@79g2000cws.googlegro ups.com:

>
> ---
> CSM
> Like the subject change? I think it's more appropriate for this ng.
>
Clevah, veddy veddy clevah!

Fig

"Emily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fff9886fff6c5ce98c5fc@news.individual.ne t...
> tanada said...
>> While my sons were never so bad as to shove their fists through windows,
>> I
>> can tell when they've done something that they know I won't like. It's
>> when
>> they volunteer to mow the lawn, make tea, or cook a meal that I get
>> nervous.
>>
> *Giggle* I can relate to that! When they volunteer there's nearly
> always a catch, isn't there. Just occasionally though my oldest (18)
> will come up to me and put his arm around my shoulders. "Mummeeeee..."
> Suspicious. What do you want? "Nothing mum, I just wanted to worry
> you." And I fall for it. Every single time :-)
>
> --
> Em the sucker


LOL, I'm a sucker for that too. Mike is really good for getting me, he's a
really good actor.

Pam S.

Figgertoes said...
> We used to have foreign students live with us for short stretches. In
> Japan & France there was only one path & only one time to take it. They
> were amazed at the concept of adult students & found it quite humorous.
> One of the great things about USA - lots of chances.
>
Blimey, no wonder the Japanese get so stressed[1]. I didn't do well at
school because I was bored and not in the least interested in the
rubbish they tried to teach me. I went back into education in my mid-
20s, and one way or another have been there ever since. Sometimes I've
been a student; sometimes I've been helping out in a school. I've got
letters after my name (whoop-di-do, big deal) and I've been a qualified
teacher of aerobics and trampolining (both quals now expired). This
year I'm going to have a go at maths GCSE, which most youngsters take at
age 16. I reckon I've got a far better chance now I'm in my 40s than I
ever had in my teens, mainly because I want to do it and that makes all
the difference. I don't use the letters after my name, because it
doesn't half look pretentious, but at the same time it's rather nice to
be able to say "look at me, I've got the university degree you never
thought I'd be able to get". Not that I do say it, but you probably
know what I mean. But it's probably why I don't really give two hoots
whether my children do well at school or not. I know they can always go
back to education later on if they want or need to. And there's no
stigma attached to it - quite the opposite in fact.

[1] It also explains the lack of Japanese mature students when I was at
university. Cardiff had a higher than average proportion of overseas
students; most of them over the age of 26; quite a few of them married
with children. There were quite a few Chinese amongst them, and loads
of folk from various African countries, notably Nigeria and Uganda. But
until now I hadn't given much thought to the fact that Japan was very
poorly represented. That was around 20 years ago. I wonder if things
have changed?

--
Em, only slightly curious to find out

Figgertoes said...
> "betsy" <betsy958@TRASHoptonline.net> wrote in news:tndlh.290$mZ.16
> @newsfe11.lga:
>
> Betsy, your message disappears when I reply.

There's a hidden .sig separator there somewhere (you know, the dash,
dash, space, return doodah)

> Snowblower too large for roof & no teenager. Alas. Neighbor has a tool
> that acts like large squegee for roof. Telescoping handle. Neighbors out
> using it, filling up their shovelled driveways with roof snow. Me with
> cuppa hot tea, watching. Thinking of making popcorn. It's cold out there!
>
I laughed when I read Betsy's post. I guess you all live in bungalows,
without an upstairs? My roof's around 30' (10m) off the ground at its
lowest point. I can't get it repaired without scaffolding, so not at
all until the building trade starts up again after the break. And it's
going to cost. Oh boy, is it going to cost :-(

--
Em

Emily <me@privacy.net> wrote in
news:MPG.1fffb34dcb81498d98c603@news.individual.ne t:

> Figgertoes said...
>> We used to have foreign students live with us for short stretches.
>> In Japan & France there was only one path & only one time to take it.
>> They were amazed at the concept of adult students & found it quite
>> humorous. One of the great things about USA - lots of chances.
>>
> Blimey, no wonder the Japanese get so stressed[1]. I didn't do well
> at school because I was bored and not in the least interested in the
> rubbish they tried to teach me. I went back into education in my mid-
> 20s, and one way or another have been there ever since. Sometimes
> I've been a student; sometimes I've been helping out in a school.
> I've got letters after my name (whoop-di-do, big deal) and I've been a
> qualified teacher of aerobics and trampolining (both quals now
> expired). This year I'm going to have a go at maths GCSE, which most
> youngsters take at age 16. I reckon I've got a far better chance now
> I'm in my 40s than I ever had in my teens, mainly because I want to do
> it and that makes all the difference. I don't use the letters after
> my name, because it doesn't half look pretentious, but at the same
> time it's rather nice to be able to say "look at me, I've got the
> university degree you never thought I'd be able to get". Not that I
> do say it, but you probably know what I mean. But it's probably why I
> don't really give two hoots whether my children do well at school or
> not. I know they can always go back to education later on if they
> want or need to. And there's no stigma attached to it - quite the
> opposite in fact.
>
> [1] It also explains the lack of Japanese mature students when I was
> at university. Cardiff had a higher than average proportion of
> overseas students; most of them over the age of 26; quite a few of
> them married with children. There were quite a few Chinese amongst
> them, and loads of folk from various African countries, notably
> Nigeria and Uganda. But until now I hadn't given much thought to the
> fact that Japan was very poorly represented. That was around 20 years
> ago. I wonder if things have changed?
>
Japanese take a critical test at a rather tender age that puts them on
whatever track. Once labeled, they are pretty much stuck as I understand
it. And there's strong pressure for women to marry by a certain age &
leave the workforce or become "office ladies" or work only part time.
May be changing, but slowly. I'd thought the U.K had a similar test 11+
or something that set destiny. No? Or are there other paths now?

I'm amazed at all I once knew well & now have forgotten all about.

Fig

Emily <me@privacy.net> wrote in
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> Figgertoes said...
>> "betsy" <betsy958@TRASHoptonline.net> wrote in news:tndlh.290$mZ.16
>> @newsfe11.lga:
>>
>> Betsy, your message disappears when I reply.
>
> There's a hidden .sig separator there somewhere (you know, the dash,
> dash, space, return doodah)

Is that on purpose? I don't know about it.

>
>> Snowblower too large for roof & no teenager. Alas. Neighbor has a
>> tool that acts like large squegee for roof. Telescoping handle.
>> Neighbors out using it, filling up their shovelled driveways with
>> roof snow. Me with cuppa hot tea, watching. Thinking of making
>> popcorn. It's cold out there!
>>
> I laughed when I read Betsy's post. I guess you all live in
> bungalows, without an upstairs? My roof's around 30' (10m) off the
> ground at its lowest point. I can't get it repaired without
> scaffolding, so not at all until the building trade starts up again
> after the break. And it's going to cost. Oh boy, is it going to cost
> :-(
>
No, I have a 4 level, sometimes called a tri. It has one floor partially
on top of one other & partially over the garage with the 4th level being
a basement under the main level. The main part of the house in on an
intermediate level. Bottom line, whatever you do, there will be stairs
involved. I have multiple roof lines. But not 30' up, no, I don't think
so.

Fig

Figgertoes wrote:
> Emily <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:MPG.1fff3f1cce3134d398c5e1
> @news.individual.net:
>
>> http://www.popularfront.com/snowdays/
>
> A truly beautiful flake!

I dated one of those once. Snow future in it.

--
Nazi: a person who is winning an argument with a liberal.

Figgertoes wrote:
> No, I have a 4 level, sometimes called a tri. It has one floor partially
> on top of one other & partially over the garage with the 4th level being
> a basement under the main level. The main part of the house in on an
> intermediate level. Bottom line, whatever you do, there will be stairs
> involved. I have multiple roof lines. But not 30' up, no, I don't think
> so.

We love our ranch house.

--
Nazi: a person who is winning an argument with a liberal.