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Old 12-06-2006, 07:39 PM
Ringo
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Hello,
it seems my father (67) has got pancreatic cancer. He still hasn't done all
examinations but cancer may be in advanced stage. I have read on the net
about alternative cures and found a lot about benifits of flaxseeds and
flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chees or skim yoghurt. A few days ago he
started to consume flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chees and he feels better
so far. Last week I also ordered this pills that contains some essential
minerals: http://www.zealandpublishing.co.nz/CAA_capsules.html needed for
boosting immune system I guess.
I belive there's cure for every disiese and I have faith that my father will
be better.

God bless !
F.




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Old 12-07-2006, 04:41 AM
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Ringo wrote:

> it seems my father (67) has got pancreatic cancer. He still hasn't done all
> examinations but cancer may be in advanced stage. I have read on the net
> about alternative cures and found a lot about benifits of flaxseeds and
> flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chees or skim yoghurt. A few days ago he
> started to consume flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chees and he feels better
> so far. Last week I also ordered this pills that contains some essential
> minerals.


Hello I'm sorry to hear about your father.
The above may help your father's bowel movements (in one way or another) and is
probably healthy to eat, but will do nothing for cancer.

If he's got advanced pancreatic cancer, he'll soon lose weight no matter what he
eats and he'll waste away (lose muscle function), and feel fatigue. If he starts
having pain, he'll need hospice care.
So if he's feeling fairly well, at the moment, and hasn't seen family or
friends, for a while, now's the time to have them visit him.
If he's got grandchildren, he may want to go through his things and give a
special token to each, of his love for them. And a scrapbook of photos of
memories and photos for each. Help him.
Make the most of the time left with him.
Every day counts from now on.
J

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Old 12-07-2006, 04:41 AM
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J wrote:
> Ringo wrote:
>
> > it seems my father (67) has got pancreatic cancer. He still hasn't done all
> > examinations but cancer may be in advanced stage. I have read on the net
> > about alternative cures and found a lot about benifits of flaxseeds and
> > flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chees or skim yoghurt. A few days ago he
> > started to consume flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chees and he feels better
> > so far. Last week I also ordered this pills that contains some essential
> > minerals.

>
> Hello I'm sorry to hear about your father.
> The above may help your father's bowel movements (in one way or another) and is
> probably healthy to eat, but will do nothing for cancer.
>

This helped my husband with his constipation significantly. We bought
the flax seed from the health food store bins & ground them up to a
powder using a coffee grinder. They are far more effective this way as
they are hard & often slide throught he digestive system whole
otherwise. Then we mixed into either warm apple cider or cranberry
juice (he liked warm) & he drank 2-3 X daily. Drink fast, as these
turn to gelatin.

Whatever you mix it with should work. Or sprinkle on salad, sandwich
spread,etc. They have a lot of omega 3 fatty acids which are good.

Fig

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Old 12-07-2006, 02:49 PM
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Thank you all (and sorry for gramatic mistakes in my writing)

Sounds very optimistic what J wrote :c) but I think It doesn't have to be
that way neccesarlly. I belive not all people are the same. I forgot to
write that my father already survived cancer more than 25 years ago. It was
kidney cancer. The doctor gave him 6 months but he went on surgery. It was
succesful but he lost his kidney. During all that time in hospital he was
very optimistic and made joke of all of that. After that the most optimistic
doctors gave him 5-10 years of living but here he is, his one kidney is
doing better than someone's two.
I think there's not possibilty for surgery if pancreatic cancer is concerned
but I think this situation is not the lost battle. I have read a lot of
testimonials on the net about surviving advanced stages of cancer and I
don't belive all of them are false. My father will continue with flaxseeds
and oil and we will see.

I have read on the net that flaxseeds can be bad for some types of cancer
like prostatic cancer and that can even couse cancer but here's one text
that says aginst that. There are also some good advices about food consuming
and shortly about The Budwig Diet.

Enjoy reading !

http://www.jonbarron.org/newsletters/news021021.htm





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Old 12-11-2006, 10:45 AM
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> Hello,
> it seems my father (67) has got pancreatic cancer. He still hasn't done
> all
> examinations but cancer may be in advanced stage. I have read on the net
> about alternative cures and found a lot about benifits of flaxseeds and
> flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chees or skim yoghurt. A few days ago he
> started to consume flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chees and he feels
> better
> so far. Last week I also ordered this pills that contains some essential
> minerals: http://www.zealandpublishing.co.nz/CAA_capsules.html needed for
> boosting immune system I guess.
> I belive there's cure for every disiese and I have faith that my father
> will
> be better.
>
> God bless !
> F.


There are no cures (alternative or otherwise) for advanced pancreatic
cancer.

There are no 'alternative' cures for any kind of cancer...or anything else
except an excessively heavy wallet..

If you have any kind of faith remember the prayer that includes
'God......give me the strength to accept the things I cannot change'
MIKE


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Old 12-11-2006, 10:45 AM
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Ringo wrote:
> Hello,
> it seems my father (67) has got pancreatic cancer. He still hasn't done all
> examinations but cancer may be in advanced stage. I have read on the net
> about alternative cures and found a lot about benifits of flaxseeds and
> flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chees or skim yoghurt. A few days ago he
> started to consume flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chees and he feels better
> so far. Last week I also ordered this pills that contains some essential
> minerals: http://www.zealandpublishing.co.nz/CAA_capsules.html needed for
> boosting immune system I guess.
> I belive there's cure for every disiese and I have faith that my father will
> be better.
>
> God bless !
> F.


'They' don't seem to hold out much hope ..

http://www.curecancer.org.au/Content...=6&c=442&p=942

Pancreatic Cancer
Pancreatic cancer is the fourth leading cause of cancer death in men
and women in Western societies. Nothing, apart from surgery in a small
proportion of individuals, gives any hope. A better understanding of
the molecular pathology of pancreatic cancer will lead to significant
advances in treatment with a substantial impact on patient outcome.
This project focuses on understanding the role of retinoic acid
signalling in pancreatic cancer in an attempt to define novel
diagnostic and treatment strategies that may extend the successful use
of retinoids, as seen in the treatment of leukaemia, to pancreatic
cancer

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You should look into the findings of elevated iron.
http://tinyurl.com/yfqkxq

http://herbivore.7h.com/cancerpost.html

<<snip>>
Higher levels of serum iron, iron saturation were also predictive
<<snip>>

Int J Epidemiol. 1993 Feb;22(1):30-7. Links
Risk factors for pancreatic cancer: an exploratory study.Friedman GD,
van den Eeden SK.
Division of Research, Kaiser Permanente Medical Care Program, Oakland,
California.

An exploratory case-control study to detect risk factors for pancreatic
cancer was conducted within a large cohort of people who had received
multiphasic health checkups in the San Francisco Bay Area. Four hundred
and fifty who later developed pancreatic cancer were compared with 2687
who did not with respect to 779 characteristics recorded at the
checkups. There was strong confirmation that cigarette smoking and
diabetes mellitus were associated with risk of subsequent pancreatic
cancer. Higher levels of serum iron, iron saturation and body weight
were also predictive. Less striking associations of interest were with
the leukocyte count, pulse rate and certain questionnaire items
suggesting non-specific health impairment. Past concerns about alcohol
and coffee consumption were not confirmed.

PMID: 8449644 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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Old 12-11-2006, 07:16 PM
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>
> There are no cures (alternative or otherwise) for advanced pancreatic
> cancer.
>
> There are no 'alternative' cures for any kind of cancer...or anything else
> except an excessively heavy wallet..
>
> If you have any kind of faith remember the prayer that includes
> 'God......give me the strength to accept the things I cannot change'
> MIKE
>

Yes, I have a faith in God so I belive that wonders are possible so there's
alway hope


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Old 12-11-2006, 07:16 PM
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>
> 'They' don't seem to hold out much hope ..
>
> http://www.curecancer.org.au/Content...=6&c=442&p=942
>


Yes, but I think the worst thing to do is to give away any hope and just
waiting the end to come doing nothing. I think sick person always have to be
aware of siriousness of his or her state but also try other kinds of
treatments esspecially if conventional medicine have no cure for there
sickness. For istance, that Budwig Diet is very simple and can only be good
for health so there's nothing to lose if you try. There are a lot of
testimonials on the internet about curing cancer when official medicine said
all hope were gone.



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Old 12-11-2006, 07:16 PM
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Public release date: 7-Dec-2006
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Contact: Steve Benowitz
steven.benowitz@jefferson.edu
215-955-5291
Thomas Jefferson University

Blood pressure drugs could help halt pancreatic cancer spread,
Jefferson researchers find
(PHILADELPHIA) Common blood pressure medications might help block the
spread of pancreatic cancer, researchers at the Kimmel Cancer Center at
Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia have found. The scientists
showed in laboratory studies that two types of pressure-lowering drugs
- ACE inhibitors and AT1R blockers - may help reduce the
development of tumor-feeding blood vessels, a process called
angiogenesis. Such drugs, they say, may become part of a novel strategy
to control the growth and spread of cancer.

According to Hwyda Arafat, M.D., Ph.D., assistant professor of surgery
at Jefferson Medical College, previous studies have linked a lower
cancer incidence with the inhibition of the pancreas hormone
angiotensin II (Ang II) by either ACE (Angiotensin I converting enzyme)
inhibitors or AT1R (Ang II type 1 receptor) blockers. Ang II increases
the production of VEGF, a vascular factor that promotes blood vessel
growth in a number of cancers. High VEGF levels have been correlated
with poor cancer prognosis and early recurrence. ACE is the enzyme that
converts Ang I to Ang II.

Dr. Arafat and her co-workers examined the protein of both invasive
pancreatic cancer and normal pancreatic tissue, analyzing the
expression of ACE and AT1R in relation to VEGF. They also looked at the
effects of blood pressure drugs captopril, an ACE inhibitor, and
losartan, an AT1R blocker, on VEGF production in cancer cell lines.

They found that protein levels in ACE and AT1R were significantly
higher in 75 percent of the cancer tissue examined. VEGF expression was
higher in cases where there was strong ACE and AT1R levels. In the test
tube, Ang II significantly enhanced VEGF production in AT1R-positive
cells. Captopril and losartan both blocked this effect.

"Our data show for the first time that both ACE and AT1R are
functionally expressed in pancreatic ductal adenocarcinoma and suggest
their involvement in tumor angiogenesis," Dr. Arafat says. She presents
her results December 5, 2006 at the Southern Surgical Association
meeting in Palm Beach, FL.

"High VEGF levels correspond with lymph node metastasis and worse
prognosis in many cancers," Dr. Arafat says. "High levels of
angiotensin II might mean high levels of VEGF and pancreatic cancer. We
have a treatment to block it."

"We are continuing to analyze how angiotensin affects VEGF, and the
signaling pathways involved," she says. Her team is looking at the
effect of angiotensin on cell proliferation and programmed cell death,
and would like to develop an animal model.

"Patients have chemotherapy and radiation sometimes before surgery,"
she says. "I would imagine this would be useful either for unresectable
tumors or after surgical removal of the pancreatic cancer. It might be
used in maintenance."

"These are well tested, safe drugs," Dr. Arafat notes, "so the
translation of our work from the animal model to the clinical trial can
be fast. This is very promising." Pancreatic cancer is the fourth
leading cause of cancer death in the United States, with some 32,000
deaths a year. Only five percent of patients live at least one year
after diagnosis.


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Now if you look at this article .. erythrocytosis / increased red blood
cell production is decreased by the use of the above drugs.
Soooo .. are they simply lowering the red blood cell counts .. ?

Is the incidence of pancreatic cancer .. higher .. in those with KNOWN
... erythrocytosis .. ?

<<snip>>
erythrocytosis after successful renal transplantation, secondary
polycythemia of chronically hypoxemic COPD patients, erythrocytosis
associated with renovascular hypertension, severe cardiac or renal
failure, the hematocrit-lowering effect of angiotensing-converting
enzyme inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blocker may be profound
<<snip>>

Hematocrit-lowering Effect Following Inactivation of Renin-Angiotensin
System with Angiotensin Converting Enzyme Inhibitors and Angiotensin
Receptor Blockers
Authors: Marathias, K. P.1; Agroyannis, B.1; Mavromoustakos, T.1;
Matsoukas, J.1; Vlahakos, D. V.1


Source: Current Topics in Medicinal Chemistry, Volume 4, Number 4,
February 2004, pp. 483-486(4)


Publisher: Bentham Science Publishers
Abstract:


Several clinical and experimental observations suggest that an intact
and activated renin-angiotensin system (RAS) may be an important
determinant of erythropoiesis in a variety of clinical conditions,
including hypertension, chronic renal insufficiency or failure, chronic

obstructive pulmonary disease, and congestive heart failure.
Accordingly, RAS inactivation may confer susceptibility to the
hematocrit-lowering effects of angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors

or angiotensin receptor blockers. Indeed, a dose-dependent decrease in
hematocrit is observed within the first month of such therapy. In the
majority of patients with hypertension decreases in hematocrit values
after RAS inactivation are small and not clinically important. In
extreme conditions, however, such as erythrocytosis after successful
renal transplantation, secondary polycythemia of chronically hypoxemic
COPD patients, erythrocytosis associated with renovascular
hypertension, severe cardiac or renal failure, the hematocrit-lowering
effect of angiotensing-converting enzyme inhibitors and angiotensin
receptor blocker may be profound and even lead to or worsen anemia.
Hematocrit reachs its nadir value within three months, and then it
remains stable during long-term observations. After discontinuation of
RAS blockade, hematocrit values rise gradually over the next three to
four months towards the pretreatment levels. The mechanism(s) related
to this phenomenon is not yet fully understood, but angiotensin II
seems to be responsible for inappropriately sustaining secretion of
erythropoietin despite hematocrit elevation and capable to directly
stimulate the erythroid progenitors in bone marrow to produce
erythrocytes.
Keywords: Hematocrit-lowering Effect; erythrocytes; erythropoietin;
Renin-Angiotensin


Document Type: Review article


DOI: 10.2174/1568026043451311


Affiliations: 1: Aretaieion University Hospital, Division of
Nephrology, 76 Vas. Sofias Ave., Athens 115 28, Greece.


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