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Old 05-29-2007, 05:54 PM
aperson@Treat-Cancer.nl
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Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
appear... They are Plonkers...

They are seeking J... From this forum..

They are going to plonk J..

Plonk Plonk... Plonk... Plonk...

They succeeded in plonking J.

And now J's gone. It is as if he's abducted. Some people say he's
plonked...

Poor J.

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Old 05-29-2007, 05:54 PM
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aperson@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:

> Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
> the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
> One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
> appear... They are Plonkers...


Chang, go try making money somewhere else.
J

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Old 05-29-2007, 05:54 PM
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On 29 mei, 16:32, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:
> aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
> > the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
> > One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
> > appear... They are Plonkers...

>
> Chang, go try making money somewhere else.
> J


Plonk!

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Old 05-29-2007, 05:54 PM
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On 29 mei, 16:32, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:
> aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
> > the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
> > One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
> > appear... They are Plonkers...

>
> Chang, go try making money somewhere else.
> J


Unfortunately, I have no money to make commercials. If I had the
money, I wouldn't be here, trying to point you to the existance of my
site, Treat-Cancer.nl. Sorry, you will have to cope with me until I
have enough money to move out of here and use ADWORDS instead. Yes, I
don't like posting here either. But it's necessary. If I look in my
mailbox, it is full of advertising. Well, if I can cope with
advertising, then you probably can too.

Sorry, but I'm a person too, I need to buy food everyday to eat. Know
what, I'll be gone from this forum if you donate me 5 dollars every
day, so I have enough money to buy my dinner, lunch and breakfast.

Otherwise, I think you will have to tolerate my presence here in this
forum.

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Old 05-30-2007, 05:10 AM
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On May 29, 8:42 am, aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> On 29 mei, 16:32, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:
>
> > aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > > Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
> > > the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
> > > One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
> > > appear... They are Plonkers...

>
> > Chang, go try making money somewhere else.
> > J

>
> Unfortunately, I have no money to make commercials. If I had the
> money, I wouldn't be here, trying to point you to the existance of my
> site, Treat-Cancer.nl. Sorry, you will have to cope with me until I
> have enough money to move out of here and use ADWORDS instead. Yes, I
> don't like posting here either. But it's necessary. If I look in my
> mailbox, it is full of advertising. Well, if I can cope with
> advertising, then you probably can too.
>
> Sorry, but I'm a person too, I need to buy food everyday to eat. Know
> what, I'll be gone from this forum if you donate me 5 dollars every
> day, so I have enough money to buy my dinner, lunch and breakfast.
>
> Otherwise, I think you will have to tolerate my presence here in this
> forum.


Get an honest job.
Fig

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Old 05-30-2007, 05:10 AM
J
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Figgertoes wrote:

> On May 29, 8:42 am, aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > On 29 mei, 16:32, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:
> >
> > > aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > > > Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
> > > > the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
> > > > One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
> > > > appear... They are Plonkers...

> >
> > > Chang, go try making money somewhere else.
> > > J

> >
> > Unfortunately, I have no money to make commercials. If I had the
> > money, I wouldn't be here, trying to point you to the existance of my
> > site, Treat-Cancer.nl. Sorry, you will have to cope with me until I
> > have enough money to move out of here and use ADWORDS instead. Yes, I
> > don't like posting here either. But it's necessary. If I look in my
> > mailbox, it is full of advertising. Well, if I can cope with
> > advertising, then you probably can too.
> >
> > Sorry, but I'm a person too, I need to buy food everyday to eat. Know
> > what, I'll be gone from this forum if you donate me 5 dollars every
> > day, so I have enough money to buy my dinner, lunch and breakfast.
> >
> > Otherwise, I think you will have to tolerate my presence here in this
> > forum.

>
> Get an honest job.
> Fig


Great one-liner
Too bad newsgroups aren't owned. I think it could sue him for blackmail.
J

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Old 05-30-2007, 02:34 PM
aperson@Treat-Cancer.nl
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On 30 mei, 02:15, Figgertoes <figt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 8:42 am, aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 29 mei, 16:32, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:

>
> > > aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > > > Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
> > > > the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
> > > > One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
> > > > appear... They are Plonkers...

>
> > > Chang, go try making money somewhere else.
> > > J

>
> > Unfortunately, I have no money to make commercials. If I had the
> > money, I wouldn't be here, trying to point you to the existance of my
> > site, Treat-Cancer.nl. Sorry, you will have to cope with me until I
> > have enough money to move out of here and use ADWORDS instead. Yes, I
> > don't like posting here either. But it's necessary. If I look in my
> > mailbox, it is full of advertising. Well, if I can cope with
> > advertising, then you probably can too.

>
> > Sorry, but I'm a person too, I need to buy food everyday to eat. Know
> > what, I'll be gone from this forum if you donate me 5 dollars every
> > day, so I have enough money to buy my dinner, lunch and breakfast.

>
> > Otherwise, I think you will have to tolerate my presence here in this
> > forum.

>
> Get an honest job.
> Fig- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -


It doesn't matter what job, there are always people nagging. For
example, if I make websites with HTML, the client will go nagging
about this is not good or that is not good. If I go work in a
restaurant, there is always the boss or collegues nagging about this
and that.

There is nothing dishonest about this job.

I do what I like and I don't really care what you have to say about
it. I really like this job and I like to stick to it. I do what I want
and I don't listen to your words.

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Old 05-30-2007, 02:34 PM
aperson@Treat-Cancer.nl
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On 30 mei, 02:23, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:
> Figgertoes wrote:
> > On May 29, 8:42 am, aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > > On 29 mei, 16:32, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:

>
> > > > aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > > > > Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
> > > > > the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
> > > > > One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
> > > > > appear... They are Plonkers...

>
> > > > Chang, go try making money somewhere else.
> > > > J

>
> > > Unfortunately, I have no money to make commercials. If I had the
> > > money, I wouldn't be here, trying to point you to the existance of my
> > > site, Treat-Cancer.nl. Sorry, you will have to cope with me until I
> > > have enough money to move out of here and use ADWORDS instead. Yes, I
> > > don't like posting here either. But it's necessary. If I look in my
> > > mailbox, it is full of advertising. Well, if I can cope with
> > > advertising, then you probably can too.

>
> > > Sorry, but I'm a person too, I need to buy food everyday to eat. Know
> > > what, I'll be gone from this forum if you donate me 5 dollars every
> > > day, so I have enough money to buy my dinner, lunch and breakfast.

>
> > > Otherwise, I think you will have to tolerate my presence here in this
> > > forum.

>
> > Get an honest job.
> > Fig

>
> Great one-liner
> Too bad newsgroups aren't owned. I think it could sue him for blackmail.
> J- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -


It is incredible difficult to sue someone that is in another country.
By the way, you don't have any proof. And I have liberty of speech, I
can participate and write what I want in this newsgroup.

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Old 05-30-2007, 02:34 PM
aperson@Treat-Cancer.nl
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> > Get an honest job.

For example, I go working at mcdonalds... The boss will be nagging...
Now J is nagging. Every job has people who are always nagging. Be it
the boss, a client, J...

Think about it:

Figgertoes: "Get an honest job."

Analogy:

Boss: "Don't spill it"

Boss: "Work harder"

Client: "This is garbage, you need to make it better"

Client: "I am growing impatient of waiting"

Every job has nagging people.

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Old 05-30-2007, 06:44 PM
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On May 30, 5:48 am, aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > > Get an honest job.

>
> For example, I go working at mcdonalds... The boss will be nagging...
> Now J is nagging. Every job has people who are always nagging. Be it
> the boss, a client, J...
>
> Think about it:
>
> Figgertoes: "Get an honest job."
>
> Analogy:
>
> Boss: "Don't spill it"
>
> Boss: "Work harder"
>
> Client: "This is garbage, you need to make it better"
>
> Client: "I am growing impatient of waiting"
>
> Every job has nagging people.


Maybe in your world. You must be delightful to live around.
Fig

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Old 05-30-2007, 06:44 PM
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On May 30, 2:44 am, aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> On 30 mei, 02:15, Figgertoes <figt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I do what I like and I don't really care what you have to say about
> it. I really like this job and I like to stick to it. I do what I want
> and I don't listen to your words.>
> - Show quoted text -


Amazing how people can respond to things they vow they don't
read/'listen to.'

Fig, who has seen similar here before

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Old 05-30-2007, 11:29 PM
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so...you are masochistic enough that you enjoy being laughed at for
being a fool?

aperson@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
>
> On 30 mei, 02:23, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:
> > Figgertoes wrote:
> > > On May 29, 8:42 am, aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > > > On 29 mei, 16:32, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:

> >
> > > > > aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > > > > > Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
> > > > > > the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
> > > > > > One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
> > > > > > appear... They are Plonkers...

> >
> > > > > Chang, go try making money somewhere else.
> > > > > J

> >
> > > > Unfortunately, I have no money to make commercials. If I had the
> > > > money, I wouldn't be here, trying to point you to the existance of my
> > > > site, Treat-Cancer.nl. Sorry, you will have to cope with me until I
> > > > have enough money to move out of here and use ADWORDS instead. Yes, I
> > > > don't like posting here either. But it's necessary. If I look in my
> > > > mailbox, it is full of advertising. Well, if I can cope with
> > > > advertising, then you probably can too.

> >
> > > > Sorry, but I'm a person too, I need to buy food everyday to eat. Know
> > > > what, I'll be gone from this forum if you donate me 5 dollars every
> > > > day, so I have enough money to buy my dinner, lunch and breakfast.

> >
> > > > Otherwise, I think you will have to tolerate my presence here in this
> > > > forum.

> >
> > > Get an honest job.
> > > Fig

> >
> > Great one-liner
> > Too bad newsgroups aren't owned. I think it could sue him for blackmail.
> > J- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
> >
> > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

>
> It is incredible difficult to sue someone that is in another country.
> By the way, you don't have any proof. And I have liberty of speech, I
> can participate and write what I want in this newsgroup.

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Old 05-30-2007, 11:29 PM
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ahem...it's not really a job at al now is it?

you just post some silly stuff, and them stick your hand out begging for
'donations'

of course, they aren't really even 'donations' because you aren't a
charity

shucks why don't you just take your tin cup down to the train station
and beg there?

oh! that's right, then folk could actually see you for what you are...a
slacker who wants everyone else to support you

aperson@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
>
> On 30 mei, 02:15, Figgertoes <figt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On May 29, 8:42 am, aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 29 mei, 16:32, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:

> >
> > > > aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > > > > Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
> > > > > the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
> > > > > One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
> > > > > appear... They are Plonkers...

> >
> > > > Chang, go try making money somewhere else.
> > > > J

> >
> > > Unfortunately, I have no money to make commercials. If I had the
> > > money, I wouldn't be here, trying to point you to the existance of my
> > > site, Treat-Cancer.nl. Sorry, you will have to cope with me until I
> > > have enough money to move out of here and use ADWORDS instead. Yes, I
> > > don't like posting here either. But it's necessary. If I look in my
> > > mailbox, it is full of advertising. Well, if I can cope with
> > > advertising, then you probably can too.

> >
> > > Sorry, but I'm a person too, I need to buy food everyday to eat. Know
> > > what, I'll be gone from this forum if you donate me 5 dollars every
> > > day, so I have enough money to buy my dinner, lunch and breakfast.

> >
> > > Otherwise, I think you will have to tolerate my presence here in this
> > > forum.

> >
> > Get an honest job.
> > Fig- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
> >
> > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

>
> It doesn't matter what job, there are always people nagging. For
> example, if I make websites with HTML, the client will go nagging
> about this is not good or that is not good. If I go work in a
> restaurant, there is always the boss or collegues nagging about this
> and that.
>
> There is nothing dishonest about this job.
>
> I do what I like and I don't really care what you have to say about
> it. I really like this job and I like to stick to it. I do what I want
> and I don't listen to your words.

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Old 05-30-2007, 11:29 PM
Paul T. Holland
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then go be a hermit in the mountains where you won't have to face real
life...

aperson@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
>
> > > Get an honest job.

>
> For example, I go working at mcdonalds... The boss will be nagging...
> Now J is nagging. Every job has people who are always nagging. Be it
> the boss, a client, J...
>
> Think about it:
>
> Figgertoes: "Get an honest job."
>
> Analogy:
>
> Boss: "Don't spill it"
>
> Boss: "Work harder"
>
> Client: "This is garbage, you need to make it better"
>
> Client: "I am growing impatient of waiting"
>
> Every job has nagging people.

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Old 05-30-2007, 11:29 PM
aperson@Treat-Cancer.nl
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Wow, now you have really angered me. I have got some words for you
mister!!!!!!

Those words are,


those words are,


those words are:

TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TREAT - CANCER DOT NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On 30 mei, 21:04, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> ahem...it's not really a job at al now is it?
>
> you just post some silly stuff, and them stick your hand out begging for
> 'donations'
>
> of course, they aren't really even 'donations' because you aren't a
> charity
>
> shucks why don't you just take your tin cup down to the train station
> and beg there?
>
> oh! that's right, then folk could actually see you for what you are...a
> slacker who wants everyone else to support you
>
>
>
> aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
>
> > On 30 mei, 02:15, Figgertoes <figt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On May 29, 8:42 am, aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:

>
> > > > On 29 mei, 16:32, J <nexsw@nvalid,anon> wrote:

>
> > > > > aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> > > > > > Ufo's are arriving earth... Soon the ufo's land... They even land near
> > > > > > the white house. They obviously are looking for something or someone.
> > > > > > One or more ufo's land... A big door opens from the UFO. Green man
> > > > > > appear... They are Plonkers...

>
> > > > > Chang, go try making money somewhere else.
> > > > > J

>
> > > > Unfortunately, I have no money to make commercials. If I had the
> > > > money, I wouldn't be here, trying to point you to the existance of my
> > > > site, Treat-Cancer.nl. Sorry, you will have to cope with me until I
> > > > have enough money to move out of here and use ADWORDS instead. Yes, I
> > > > don't like posting here either. But it's necessary. If I look in my
> > > > mailbox, it is full of advertising. Well, if I can cope with
> > > > advertising, then you probably can too.

>
> > > > Sorry, but I'm a person too, I need to buy food everyday to eat. Know
> > > > what, I'll be gone from this forum if you donate me 5 dollars every
> > > > day, so I have enough money to buy my dinner, lunch and breakfast.

>
> > > > Otherwise, I think you will have to tolerate my presence here in this
> > > > forum.

>
> > > Get an honest job.
> > > Fig- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

>
> > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

>
> > It doesn't matter what job, there are always people nagging. For
> > example, if I make websites with HTML, the client will go nagging
> > about this is not good or that is not good. If I go work in a
> > restaurant, there is always the boss or collegues nagging about this
> > and that.

>
> > There is nothing dishonest about this job.

>
> > I do what I like and I don't really care what you have to say about
> > it. I really like this job and I like to stick to it. I do what I want
> > and I don't listen to your words.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -



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Old 05-30-2007, 11:29 PM
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Paul T. Holland schreef:
> ahem...it's not really a job at al now is it?
>
> you just post some silly stuff, and them stick your hand out begging for
> 'donations'
>
> of course, they aren't really even 'donations' because you aren't a
> charity
>
> shucks why don't you just take your tin cup down to the train station
> and beg there?
>
> oh! that's right, then folk could actually see you for what you are...a
> slacker who wants everyone else to support you
>


You may think that I am a fool, but I recently wrote Farah Fawcett's
manager/ staff an email. That email contained the words: treat-
cancer.nl.

You know what, I will write another email to celine dion, michael
jackson, bill gates. Thank you for bringing me to this idea...

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Old 05-30-2007, 11:29 PM
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On 30 mei, 23:01, aper...@Treat-Cancer.nl wrote:
> Paul T. Holland schreef:
>
> > ahem...it's not really a job at al now is it?

>
> > you just post some silly stuff, and them stick your hand out begging for
> > 'donations'

>
> > of course, they aren't really even 'donations' because you aren't a
> > charity

>
> > shucks why don't you just take your tin cup down to the train station
> > and beg there?

>
> > oh! that's right, then folk could actually see you for what you are...a
> > slacker who wants everyone else to support you

>
> You may think that I am a fool, but I recently wrote Farah Fawcett's
> manager/ staff an email. That email contained the words: treat-
> cancer.nl.
>
> You know what, I will write another email to celine dion, michael
> jackson, bill gates. Thank you for bringing me to this idea...


Don't forget kylie minogue.

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