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Old 04-29-2008, 07:03 PM
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"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
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>
> "In 2003 Health Canada launched an attack on a group of mentally ill
> patients and the company who supported them naturally. They seized
> shipments of a safe natural therapy required by the patients and
> stormed the support center with 17 armed officers and agents. The
> company (Truehope) reported that they lost contact with more than 300
> of their Canadian participants. The Canadian Mental Health Association
> told of suicides as a result of government action.
>
> Health Canada then charged the not for profit company, burdening them
> with heavy legal costs. Health Canada lost this case. Although the
> agents admitted knowing they were injuring people through their
> actions, they continued to enforce policy at the cost of life. And what
> happened to the more than 300 mentally ill Canadians that became
> unreachable? In the months and years following, reports of
> hospitalizations and suicides during the seizures have surfaced. No
> Health Canada agent has ever been charged."
>
> There is blood on Health Canada's hands and this latest outrage is
> another attack on Canadians in favour of Big Pharma.
>
> http://www.stopc51.com/
>
> What the Act does:
> the Act gives broad power and responsibility to Health Canada inspectors
> to force "regulated persons" to take whatever measures the inspectors
> deem
> necessary to ensure safety. For example, see section 23.8 of the Bill.
> I am troubled by this due to the following scenario developing:
> 1) currently roughly 60% of natural health product license applications
> are
> failing. The majority of these license applications are for single
> ingredient
> products which are easier to licence then multi-ingredient products. The
> percentage of failed license applications is expected to increase as
> more
> multi-ingredient product license applications are considered. My
> estimate
> is an overall failure rate of 70%. This means that over 60%of the
> natural health products on the market will fail the licensing process
> and will become illegal. At that point the manufacturer can wilfully
> withdraw them from the market or Health Canada can take enforcement
> action;
> 2) the NHPD has been given more resources to process license
> applications
> which means that the majority of the products will become illegal sooner
> rather than later;
> 3) Health Canada is currently going to universities to recruit
> university
> graduates as inspectors because Health Canada anticipates an increased
> need for enforcement, and
> 4) Bill C-51 gives inspectors new powers to force products off of the
> market.
> I am not aware of Health Canada having enforcement problems with
> chemical
> drug pharmaceutical companies. My belief is that when Health Canada
> asks a
> pharmaceutical company to take a product off of the market, the
> pharmaceutical
> company does. I expect that this occurs because pharmaceutical
> companies would
> face huge liability issues if they failed to comply with a Health
> Canada request and
> then someone was injured. If I am incorrect in this I am inviting
> correction as
> it is important for us to determine "who" the new enforcement powers are
> directed to.
>
> --

==============================

About time this un-regulated multi-billion dollar industry be subjected to
inspection and medical evaluation of their products. There is a flood of
these so called natural products that have been proven harmful. A good
number of the natural products are now being made in China and other Asian
countries where quality control is questionable to downright disgusting.

Health safety is paramount these days in the application or ingestion of any
medicinal product whether natural or otherwise. Some combinations of
compounds are bloody dangerous.

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Old 04-29-2008, 07:03 PM
The Ghost of Goverment Future
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"sdgreen" <sd.green@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> "Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
> news:ZbqdnciAtqInrorVnZ2dnUVZ_quhnZ2d@uniservecomm unications...
>>
>> "In 2003 Health Canada launched an attack on a group of mentally ill
>> patients and the company who supported them naturally. They seized
>> shipments of a safe natural therapy required by the patients and
>> stormed the support center with 17 armed officers and agents. The
>> company (Truehope) reported that they lost contact with more than 300
>> of their Canadian participants. The Canadian Mental Health Association
>> told of suicides as a result of government action.
>>
>> Health Canada then charged the not for profit company, burdening them
>> with heavy legal costs. Health Canada lost this case. Although the
>> agents admitted knowing they were injuring people through their
>> actions, they continued to enforce policy at the cost of life. And what
>> happened to the more than 300 mentally ill Canadians that became
>> unreachable? In the months and years following, reports of
>> hospitalizations and suicides during the seizures have surfaced. No
>> Health Canada agent has ever been charged."
>>
>> There is blood on Health Canada's hands and this latest outrage is
>> another attack on Canadians in favour of Big Pharma.
>>
>> http://www.stopc51.com/
>>
>> What the Act does:
>> the Act gives broad power and responsibility to Health Canada inspectors
>> to force "regulated persons" to take whatever measures the inspectors
>> deem
>> necessary to ensure safety. For example, see section 23.8 of the Bill.
>> I am troubled by this due to the following scenario developing:
>> 1) currently roughly 60% of natural health product license applications
>> are
>> failing. The majority of these license applications are for single
>> ingredient
>> products which are easier to licence then multi-ingredient products. The
>> percentage of failed license applications is expected to increase as
>> more
>> multi-ingredient product license applications are considered. My
>> estimate
>> is an overall failure rate of 70%. This means that over 60%of the
>> natural health products on the market will fail the licensing process
>> and will become illegal. At that point the manufacturer can wilfully
>> withdraw them from the market or Health Canada can take enforcement
>> action;
>> 2) the NHPD has been given more resources to process license
>> applications
>> which means that the majority of the products will become illegal sooner
>> rather than later;
>> 3) Health Canada is currently going to universities to recruit
>> university
>> graduates as inspectors because Health Canada anticipates an increased
>> need for enforcement, and
>> 4) Bill C-51 gives inspectors new powers to force products off of the
>> market.
>> I am not aware of Health Canada having enforcement problems with
>> chemical
>> drug pharmaceutical companies. My belief is that when Health Canada
>> asks a
>> pharmaceutical company to take a product off of the market, the
>> pharmaceutical
>> company does. I expect that this occurs because pharmaceutical
>> companies would
>> face huge liability issues if they failed to comply with a Health
>> Canada request and
>> then someone was injured. If I am incorrect in this I am inviting
>> correction as
>> it is important for us to determine "who" the new enforcement powers are
>> directed to.
>>
>> --

> ==============================
>
> About time this un-regulated multi-billion dollar industry be subjected to
> inspection and medical evaluation of their products. There is a flood of
> these so called natural products that have been proven harmful. A good
> number of the natural products are now being made in China and other Asian
> countries where quality control is questionable to downright disgusting.
>
> Health safety is paramount these days in the application or ingestion of
> any medicinal product whether natural or otherwise. Some combinations of
> compounds are bloody dangerous.


That's right green, you will die without the state nanny protecting you.


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Old 04-29-2008, 08:49 PM
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sdgreen wrote:

>
>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>news:ZbqdnciAtqInrorVnZ2dnUVZ_quhnZ2d@uniservecom munications...
>>
>>"In 2003 Health Canada launched an attack on a group of mentally ill
>>patients and the company who supported them naturally. They seized
>>shipments of a safe natural therapy required by the patients and
>>stormed the support center with 17 armed officers and agents. The
>>company (Truehope) reported that they lost contact with more than
>>300 of their Canadian participants. The Canadian Mental Health
>>Association told of suicides as a result of government action.
>>
>>Health Canada then charged the not for profit company, burdening
>>them with heavy legal costs. Health Canada lost this case. Although
>>the agents admitted knowing they were injuring people through their
>>actions, they continued to enforce policy at the cost of life. And
>>what happened to the more than 300 mentally ill Canadians that
>>became unreachable? In the months and years following, reports of
>>hospitalizations and suicides during the seizures have surfaced. No
>>Health Canada agent has ever been charged."
>>
>>There is blood on Health Canada's hands and this latest outrage is
>>another attack on Canadians in favour of Big Pharma.
>>
>>http://www.stopc51.com/
>>
>>What the Act does:
>>the Act gives broad power and responsibility to Health Canada
>>inspectors to force "regulated persons" to take whatever measures
>>the inspectors deem
>>necessary to ensure safety. For example, see section 23.8 of the
>>Bill. I am troubled by this due to the following scenario
>>developing: 1) currently roughly 60% of natural health product
>>license applications are
>>failing. The majority of these license applications are for single
>>ingredient
>>products which are easier to licence then multi-ingredient
>>products. The percentage of failed license applications is expected
>>to increase as more
>>multi-ingredient product license applications are considered. My
>>estimate
>>is an overall failure rate of 70%. This means that over 60%of the
>>natural health products on the market will fail the licensing
>>process and will become illegal. At that point the manufacturer can
>>wilfully withdraw them from the market or Health Canada can take
>>enforcement action;
>>2) the NHPD has been given more resources to process license
>>applications
>>which means that the majority of the products will become illegal
>>sooner rather than later;
>>3) Health Canada is currently going to universities to recruit
>>university
>>graduates as inspectors because Health Canada anticipates an
>>increased need for enforcement, and
>>4) Bill C-51 gives inspectors new powers to force products off of
>>the market.
>>I am not aware of Health Canada having enforcement problems with
>>chemical
>>drug pharmaceutical companies. My belief is that when Health Canada
>>asks a
>>pharmaceutical company to take a product off of the market, the
>>pharmaceutical
>>company does. I expect that this occurs because pharmaceutical
>>companies would
>>face huge liability issues if they failed to comply with a Health
>>Canada request and
>>then someone was injured. If I am incorrect in this I am inviting
>>correction as
>>it is important for us to determine "who" the new enforcement
>>powers are directed to.
>>
>>--

>==============================
>
>About time this un-regulated multi-billion dollar industry be
>subjected to inspection and medical evaluation of their products.
>There is a flood of these so called natural products that have been
>proven harmful. A good number of the natural products are now being
>made in China and other Asian countries where quality control is
>questionable to downright disgusting.
>
>Health safety is paramount these days in the application or ingestion
>of any medicinal product whether natural or otherwise. Some
>combinations of compounds are bloody dangerous.


Now my state-suckling socialist friend, have you heard of iatrogenic
disease?

Seems like there is a good case for banning hospitals.



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Old 04-29-2008, 10:53 PM
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sdgreen wrote:

> About time this un-regulated multi-billion dollar industry be subjected
> to inspection and medical evaluation of their products. There is a flood
> of these so called natural products that have been proven harmful. A
> good number of the natural products are now being made in China and
> other Asian countries where quality control is questionable to downright
> disgusting.
>
> Health safety is paramount these days in the application or ingestion of
> any medicinal product whether natural or otherwise. Some combinations of
> compounds are bloody dangerous.
>
> ----


i question more the integrity of the multi billion dollar industry of
the pharmacologist who make so many medications which cause more harm
than good.
it is fundamentally against their best interests to cure a patient, but
rather to maximise profit- which is not true health care.
it is the INDUSTRY of the health care companies which drive up the costs
just to see that our basic needs are met.

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