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Church.

If they say that our salvation depends upon God, they are "heretics." If
they say that they are obedient to the Pope, that is "hypocrisy." If they
are ready to subscribe to all the articles, that is not enough. If they say
that a man must not be killed for an apple, "they attack the morality of
Catholics." If miracles are done among them, it is not a sign of holiness,
and is, on the contrary a symptom of heresy.

This way in which the Church has existed is that truth has been without
dispute, or, if it has been contested, there has been the Pope, or, failing
him, there has been the Church.

850. The five propositions condemned, but no miracle; for the truth was not
attacked. But the Sorbonne... but the bull...

It is impossible that those who love God with all their heart should fail to
recognise the Church; so evident is she. It is impossible that those who do
not love God should be convinced of the Church.

Miracles have such influence that it was necessary that God should warn men
not to believe in them in opposition to Him, all clear as it is that there
is a God. Without this they would have been able to disturb men.

And thus so far from these passages, Deut. 13, making against the authority
of the miracles, nothing more indicates their influence. And the same in
respect of Antichrist. "To seduce, if it were possible, even the elect."

851. The