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Old 04-28-2008, 02:53 AM
Patrick Keenan
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"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
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> Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream pharma-medicine and
> media.


Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer cure, and not
just another in a long list of frauds, cons and hoaxes aimed at the sick and
desperate?


> The government is literally killing people by denying them their
> medicine. This cannot stand, let us demand our Gods given rights to
> the plants of the earth, and give a fat middle finger to the fascist
> drug czars and slimey crimey neocon "ambassadors" from the US, and
> their mirror-image counterparts in Canada that have thrived in the wake
> of Bus-style war-on-terror BS that is now discreditted.


Frankly, this kind of talk will immediately discredit anyone promoting a
genuine medical treatment.

Either you have the chemistry or you don't. Either you can prove its
effectiveness or you can't.

Use the science and lose the politics.

Show us the proof that it works, in the form of studies and trials.

> (youtube)


Why Youtube and not JAMA? Is this just another scheme unable to pass peer
review?

> A Film By Christian Laurette - After a serious head injury in 1997,
> Rick Simpson sought relief from his medical condition through the use
> of medicinal hemp oil. When Rick discovered that the hemp oil (with its
> high concentration of T.H.C.) cured cancers <snippage>


Can you please identify the studies and trials that showed that hemp oil
cured cancers, and which cancers it cures? I'd like to read them.

You are making a very, very significant claim, and you should be ready and
able to back it up, assuming that you want to be taken seriously.

Either you have proof of your claims or you don't.

Shall we wait, or do these studies not exist and the trials not take place?

-pk


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Old 04-28-2008, 06:23 AM
Anarchore
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Patrick Keenan wrote:

>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniservecom munications...
>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream pharma-medicine
>>and media.

>
>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer cure,
>and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and hoaxes aimed
>at the sick and desperate?


You are asking the wrong question. The question is what does the
pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.

What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with cannabis
oil?

>
>
>>The government is literally killing people by denying them their
>>medicine. This cannot stand, let us demand our Gods given rights
>>to the plants of the earth, and give a fat middle finger to the
>>fascist drug czars and slimey crimey neocon "ambassadors" from the
>>US, and their mirror-image counterparts in Canada that have thrived
>>in the wake of Bus-style war-on-terror BS that is now discreditted.

>
>Frankly, this kind of talk will immediately discredit anyone
>promoting a genuine medical treatment.
>
>Either you have the chemistry or you don't. Either you can prove
>its effectiveness or you can't.
>
>Use the science and lose the politics.
>
>Show us the proof that it works, in the form of studies and trials.
>
>>(youtube)

>
>Why Youtube and not JAMA? Is this just another scheme unable to
>pass peer review?


just watch the film.

>
>>A Film By Christian Laurette - After a serious head injury in 1997,
>>Rick Simpson sought relief from his medical condition through the
>>use of medicinal hemp oil. When Rick discovered that the hemp oil
>>(with its high concentration of T.H.C.) cured cancers <snippage>

>
>Can you please identify the studies and trials that showed that hemp
>oil cured cancers, and which cancers it cures? I'd like to read
>them.


The brain cancer effects have been well documented. I am not
responsible for your ignorance. Just watch the film.

>
>You are making a very, very significant claim, and you should be
>ready and able to back it up, assuming that you want to be taken
>seriously.
>
>Either you have proof of your claims or you don't.
>
>Shall we wait, or do these studies not exist and the trials not take
>place?


Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw


Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysdaDhM9rfA


Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGhpVzN0ik8


Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NN98CuFGA


Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn6XIG_oxUM


Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Lqug_vaqo


Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa2iCx3ZLgQ




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Old 04-28-2008, 09:00 PM
Patrick Keenan
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"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniservecomm unications...
> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>
>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserveco mmunications...
>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream pharma-medicine
>>>and media.

>>
>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer cure,
>>and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and hoaxes aimed
>>at the sick and desperate?

>
> You are asking the wrong question.


I am asking exactly the right question where claims are questionable.

If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely reasonable to
require proof. You provide *none*.

> The question is what does the
> pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.


One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the cancers you
claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know this subject at all.

> What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with cannabis
> oil?


In other words, you *cannot* show that this is actually a cancer cure.
You don't even know *what* cancers are claimed to be affected.
If you could, you would be eagerly identifying the studies and trials. You
claim it's "well documented" but refuse to identify the documentation.

You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that the
material doesn't exist.

You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.

I have watched your films and they are a collection of unsubstantiated
anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no studies or trials
referenced.

I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can do to
cancer victims and the survivors, their families and friends.

Perhaps you just don't care about those people.

-pk

<snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>


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Old 04-29-2008, 12:28 AM
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Patrick Keenan wrote:

>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniservecom munications...
>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>
>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniservec ommunications...
>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>>>>pharma-medicine and media.
>>>
>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer cure,
>>>and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and hoaxes
>>>aimed at the sick and desperate?

>>
>>You are asking the wrong question.

>
>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are questionable.
>
>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely reasonable to
>require proof. You provide none.
>
>>The question is what does the
>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.

>
>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the cancers
>you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know this subject at
>all.
>
>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with cannabis
>>oil?

>
>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer cure.
>You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be affected. If you
>could, you would be eagerly identifying the studies and trials. You
>claim it's "well documented" but refuse to identify the documentation.
>
>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that the
>material doesn't exist.
>
>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.
>
>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no
>studies or trials referenced.
>
>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can do
>to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and friends.
>
>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.
>
>-pk
>
><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>



Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.

Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw


Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysdaDhM9rfA


Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGhpVzN0ik8


Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NN98CuFGA


Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn6XIG_oxUM


Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Lqug_vaqo


Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa2iCx3ZLgQ


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Old 04-29-2008, 06:18 AM
Marc Bissonnette
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"Anarchore" <e@t.me> fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
result: news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications:

> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>
>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniserveco mmunications...
>>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserve communications...
>>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>>>>>pharma-medicine and media.
>>>>
>>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer cure,
>>>>and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and hoaxes
>>>>aimed at the sick and desperate?
>>>
>>>You are asking the wrong question.

>>
>>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are questionable.
>>
>>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely reasonable to
>>require proof. You provide none.
>>
>>>The question is what does the
>>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.

>>
>>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the cancers
>>you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know this subject at
>>all.
>>
>>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with cannabis
>>>oil?

>>
>>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer cure.
>>You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be affected. If you
>>could, you would be eagerly identifying the studies and trials. You
>>claim it's "well documented" but refuse to identify the documentation.
>>
>>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that the
>>material doesn't exist.
>>
>>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.
>>
>>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no
>>studies or trials referenced.
>>
>>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can do
>>to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and friends.
>>
>>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.
>>
>>-pk
>>
>><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>

>
>
> Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.


Instead of being a "shithead" yourself, why do you not or can you not
provide even a single shred of evidence of your claims ?

You obviously didn't real Patrick's reply as he *did* watch your film and
stated quite clearly that it's full of anecdotal claims without a single
shred of actual proof that this affects a specific cancer. You are aware,
are you not, that there *are* multiple forms of cancer ? You are aware,
are you not, that a treatment for one cancer (whether traditional or
alternative) is not only not necessarily effective on another type, but
may actually be harmful ?

What is it with you alternative treatment holy rollers that gets your
back up when someone asks you to show _proof_ that it actually does
anything, rather than some random guy or girl in a video saying "I'm
cured! Wow!"

Just to be even clearer, here's the *reason* people ask for and need
proof:

Let's say I'm selling/pushing an alternative cure of, say, pulped
dandilion seeds as a cure for cancer. I happen to sell em and make a
profit of, say, $10 a dose. I can, within ten minutes of *right now* get
a dozen people to appear in a video, claim they are cancer survivors and
were all cured by smearing dandilion seed pulp on their left ear lobe and
right big toe. For every ten suckers I get to order my pulped dandilion
seeds, that's one hundred bucks in my pocket. Why reference *independant*
or *peer reviewed* studies ? After all, a bunch of random schmucks in a
video said they were cured! It was on that thar interweb thingie, so it
must be true, right ?

So you're trying another angle at legalizing marijuhanna - Why must you
take the shameful tactic of attempting to use those with a life-altering
disease in your attempt to get high legally ?

- or -

How about we just call shenanigans right now and call a spade a spade:
You're not only a spammer, but not a very bright spammer.

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Old 04-29-2008, 06:18 AM
Patrick Keenan
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"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications...
> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>
>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniserveco mmunications...
>>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserve communications...
>>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>>>>>pharma-medicine and media.
>>>>
>>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer cure,
>>>>and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and hoaxes
>>>>aimed at the sick and desperate?
>>>
>>>You are asking the wrong question.

>>
>>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are questionable.
>>
>>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely reasonable to
>>require proof. You provide none.
>>
>>>The question is what does the
>>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.

>>
>>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the cancers
>>you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know this subject at
>>all.
>>
>>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with cannabis
>>>oil?

>>
>>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer cure.
>>You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be affected. If you
>>could, you would be eagerly identifying the studies and trials. You
>>claim it's "well documented" but refuse to identify the documentation.
>>
>>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that the
>>material doesn't exist.
>>
>>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.
>>
>>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no
>>studies or trials referenced.
>>
>>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can do
>>to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and friends.
>>
>>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.
>>
>>-pk
>>
>><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>

>
>
> Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.


Apparently, you lack the ability to read, in addition to your inability to
answer questions.

I did watch the clips. They do not answer my questions. They are only
collections of unsubstantiated anecdotes, and there are no real references
to any identifiable studies or trials.

Do you even know what unsubstantiated anecdotes are?

Why can you not answer my very simple questions? It's not like they are
*remotely* challenging.

Perhaps - in fact it appears extremely likely - perhaps your daily
experience does not include multiple deaths from the many and varied forms
of cancer.

Perhaps that is why you don't understand that your inability to even
identify the forms of cancer that you claim are cured just doesn't convince
me of anything other than your profound ignorance of the topic.

Perhaps you don't even know that there are many different forms of cancer
and they do not respond the same way.

Answer the questions or admit that you can't - though it's clear at this
point that you can't because the studies and trials don't exist and didn't
take place.

Try to be honest for a change. What you are doing now isn't, and that's an
extremely polite way of phrasing it.

-pk




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Old 04-29-2008, 06:18 AM
Patrick Keenan
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"Marc Bissonnette" <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A8F490F2FB2dragnetinternalysisc@216.196.9 7.131...
> "Anarchore" <e@t.me> fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
> result: news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications:
>
>> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>
>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniservec ommunications...
>>>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserv ecommunications...
>>>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>>>>>>pharma-medicine and media.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer cure,
>>>>>and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and hoaxes
>>>>>aimed at the sick and desperate?
>>>>
>>>>You are asking the wrong question.
>>>
>>>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are questionable.
>>>
>>>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely reasonable to
>>>require proof. You provide none.
>>>
>>>>The question is what does the
>>>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.
>>>
>>>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the cancers
>>>you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know this subject at
>>>all.
>>>
>>>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with cannabis
>>>>oil?
>>>
>>>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer cure.
>>>You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be affected. If you
>>>could, you would be eagerly identifying the studies and trials. You
>>>claim it's "well documented" but refuse to identify the documentation.
>>>
>>>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that the
>>>material doesn't exist.
>>>
>>>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.
>>>
>>>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>>>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no
>>>studies or trials referenced.
>>>
>>>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can do
>>>to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and friends.
>>>
>>>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.
>>>
>>>-pk
>>>
>>><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>

>>
>>
>> Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.

>
> Instead of being a "shithead" yourself, why do you not or can you not
> provide even a single shred of evidence of your claims ?
>
> You obviously didn't real Patrick's reply as he *did* watch your film and
> stated quite clearly that it's full of anecdotal claims without a single
> shred of actual proof that this affects a specific cancer. You are aware,
> are you not, that there *are* multiple forms of cancer ? You are aware,
> are you not, that a treatment for one cancer (whether traditional or
> alternative) is not only not necessarily effective on another type, but
> may actually be harmful ?
>
> What is it with you alternative treatment holy rollers that gets your
> back up when someone asks you to show _proof_ that it actually does
> anything, rather than some random guy or girl in a video saying "I'm
> cured! Wow!"
>
> Just to be even clearer, here's the *reason* people ask for and need
> proof:
>
> Let's say I'm selling/pushing an alternative cure of, say, pulped
> dandilion seeds as a cure for cancer. I happen to sell em and make a
> profit of, say, $10 a dose. I can, within ten minutes of *right now* get
> a dozen people to appear in a video, claim they are cancer survivors and
> were all cured by smearing dandilion seed pulp on their left ear lobe and
> right big toe. For every ten suckers I get to order my pulped dandilion
> seeds, that's one hundred bucks in my pocket. Why reference *independant*
> or *peer reviewed* studies ? After all, a bunch of random schmucks in a
> video said they were cured! It was on that thar interweb thingie, so it
> must be true, right ?
>
> So you're trying another angle at legalizing marijuhanna - Why must you
> take the shameful tactic of attempting to use those with a life-altering
> disease in your attempt to get high legally ?
>
> - or -
>
> How about we just call shenanigans right now and call a spade a spade:
> You're not only a spammer, but not a very bright spammer.


I have to say that the "not very bright" goes with other messages
"Anarchore" posts promotiong Holocaust denial and "revisionism".

-pk

>
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Old 04-29-2008, 03:38 PM
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On Apr 28, 11:54 pm, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
> "Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
>
> news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications...
>
>
>
> > Patrick Keenan wrote:

>
> >>"Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
> >>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniserveco mmunications...
> >>>Patrick Keenan wrote:

>
> >>>>"Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
> >>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserve communications...
> >>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
> >>>>>pharma-medicine and media.

>
> >>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer cure,
> >>>>and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and hoaxes
> >>>>aimed at the sick and desperate?

>
> >>>You are asking the wrong question.

>
> >>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are questionable.

>
> >>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely reasonable to
> >>require proof. You provide none.

>
> >>>The question is what does the
> >>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.

>
> >>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the cancers
> >>you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know this subject at
> >>all.

>
> >>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with cannabis
> >>>oil?

>
> >>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer cure.
> >>You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be affected. If you
> >>could, you would be eagerly identifying the studies and trials. You
> >>claim it's "well documented" but refuse to identify the documentation.

>
> >>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that the
> >>material doesn't exist.

>
> >>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.

>
> >>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
> >>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no
> >>studies or trials referenced.

>
> >>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can do
> >>to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and friends.

>
> >>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.

>
> >>-pk

>
> >><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>

>
> > Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.

>
> Apparently, you lack the ability to read, in addition to your inability to
> answer questions.
>
> I did watch the clips. They do not answer my questions. They are only
> collections of unsubstantiated anecdotes, and there are no real references
> to any identifiable studies or trials.
>
> Do you even know what unsubstantiated anecdotes are?
>
> Why can you not answer my very simple questions? It's not like they are
> *remotely* challenging.
>
> Perhaps - in fact it appears extremely likely - perhaps your daily
> experience does not include multiple deaths from the many and varied forms
> of cancer.
>
> Perhaps that is why you don't understand that your inability to even
> identify the forms of cancer that you claim are cured just doesn't convince
> me of anything other than your profound ignorance of the topic.
>
> Perhaps you don't even know that there are many different forms of cancer
> and they do not respond the same way.
>
> Answer the questions or admit that you can't - though it's clear at this
> point that you can't because the studies and trials don't exist and didn't
> take place.
>
> Try to be honest for a change. What you are doing now isn't, and that's an
> extremely polite way of phrasing it.
>
> -pk


Just a quick note to say "Thanks, Patrick". I suspect that I'm only
one of many who were somewhat tempted to waste time on his video, but
can now avoid it thanks to your posting a synopsis. To Anarchore, the
tone and content of your posts has done you no favors. If you'd
bothered (and were able) to answer Patrick's questions, you might have
convinced *someone* else to click your links. As it is, you just look
foolish.

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Old 04-29-2008, 03:39 PM
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On Apr 28, 10:27 pm, Marc Bissonnette <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com>
wrote:
> "Anarchore" <e...@t.me> fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
> result:news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications:
>
>
>
> > Patrick Keenan wrote:

>
> >>"Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
> >>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniserveco mmunications...
> >>>Patrick Keenan wrote:

>
> >>>>"Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
> >>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserve communications...
> >>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
> >>>>>pharma-medicine and media.

>
> >>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer cure,
> >>>>and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and hoaxes
> >>>>aimed at the sick and desperate?

>
> >>>You are asking the wrong question.

>
> >>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are questionable.

>
> >>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely reasonable to
> >>require proof. You provide none.

>
> >>>The question is what does the
> >>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.

>
> >>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the cancers
> >>you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know this subject at
> >>all.

>
> >>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with cannabis
> >>>oil?

>
> >>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer cure.
> >>You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be affected. If you
> >>could, you would be eagerly identifying the studies and trials. You
> >>claim it's "well documented" but refuse to identify the documentation.

>
> >>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that the
> >>material doesn't exist.

>
> >>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.

>
> >>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
> >>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no
> >>studies or trials referenced.

>
> >>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can do
> >>to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and friends.

>
> >>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.

>
> >>-pk

>
> >><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>

>
> > Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.

>
> Instead of being a "shithead" yourself, why do you not or can you not
> provide even a single shred of evidence of your claims ?
>
> You obviously didn't real Patrick's reply as he *did* watch your film and
> stated quite clearly that it's full of anecdotal claims without a single
> shred of actual proof that this affects a specific cancer. You are aware,
> are you not, that there *are* multiple forms of cancer ? You are aware,
> are you not, that a treatment for one cancer (whether traditional or
> alternative) is not only not necessarily effective on another type, but
> may actually be harmful ?
>
> What is it with you alternative treatment holy rollers that gets your
> back up when someone asks you to show _proof_ that it actually does
> anything, rather than some random guy or girl in a video saying "I'm
> cured! Wow!"
>
> Just to be even clearer, here's the *reason* people ask for and need
> proof:
>
> Let's say I'm selling/pushing an alternative cure of, say, pulped
> dandilion seeds as a cure for cancer. I happen to sell em and make a
> profit of, say, $10 a dose. I can, within ten minutes of *right now* get
> a dozen people to appear in a video, claim they are cancer survivors and
> were all cured by smearing dandilion seed pulp on their left ear lobe and
> right big toe.


You can stop right there. You clearly know *nothing* about the
dandelion cure---it's the *left* big toe, and you have to drink a pint
of special pure onion juice just before the rub, and all in the light
of a gibbous moon. Ear lobes have nothing to do with it. You also
didn't post the video, which would have supported your case no end.
Please leave fear-based quackery and fraud to the professionals.

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Old 04-29-2008, 03:39 PM
Anarchore
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Marc Bissonnette wrote:

>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
>result: news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications:
>
>> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>
>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniservec ommunications...
>>>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserv ecommunications..
>>>>>.
>>>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>>>>>>pharma-medicine and media.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer
>>>>>cure, and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and
>>>>>hoaxes aimed at the sick and desperate?
>>>>
>>>>You are asking the wrong question.
>>>
>>>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are
>>>questionable.
>>>
>>>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely
>>>reasonable to require proof. You provide none.
>>>
>>>>The question is what does the
>>>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.
>>>
>>>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the
>>>cancers you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know
>>>this subject at all.
>>>
>>>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with
>>>>cannabis oil?
>>>
>>>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer
>>>cure. You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be
>>>affected. If you could, you would be eagerly identifying the
>>>studies and trials. You claim it's "well documented" but refuse
>>>to identify the documentation.
>>>
>>>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that
>>>the material doesn't exist.
>>>
>>>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.
>>>
>>>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>>>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no
>>>studies or trials referenced.
>>>
>>>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can
>>>do to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and
>>>friends.
>>>
>>>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.
>>>
>>>-pk
>>>
>>><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>

>>
>>
>> Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.

>
>Instead of being a "shithead" yourself, why do you not or can you not
>provide even a single shred of evidence of your claims ?
>
>You obviously didn't real Patrick's reply as he did watch your film
>and stated quite clearly that it's full of anecdotal claims without a
>single shred of actual proof that this affects a specific cancer. You
>are aware, are you not, that there are multiple forms of cancer ? You
>are aware, are you not, that a treatment for one cancer (whether
>traditional or alternative) is not only not necessarily effective on
>another type, but may actually be harmful ?


Blablabla... march of the pharmaceutical industry shitheads.

"The greater the corrupting power, the greater the number of
sychophants rallying to defend it" --Anarchore 2008


>
>What is it with you alternative treatment holy rollers that gets your
>back up when someone asks you to show proof that it actually does
>anything, rather than some random guy or girl in a video saying "I'm
>cured! Wow!"
>
>Just to be even clearer, here's the reason people ask for and need
>proof:
>
>Let's say I'm selling/pushing an alternative cure of, say, pulped
>dandilion seeds as a cure for cancer. I happen to sell em and make a
>profit of, say, $10 a dose. I can, within ten minutes of *right now*
>get a dozen people to appear in a video, claim they are cancer
>survivors and were all cured by smearing dandilion seed pulp on their
>left ear lobe and right big toe. For every ten suckers I get to order
>my pulped dandilion seeds, that's one hundred bucks in my pocket. Why
>reference independant or *peer reviewed* studies ? After all, a bunch
>of random schmucks in a video said they were cured! It was on that
>thar interweb thingie, so it must be true, right ?
>
>So you're trying another angle at legalizing marijuhanna - Why must
>you take the shameful tactic of attempting to use those with a
>life-altering disease in your attempt to get high legally ?
>
> - or -
>
>How about we just call shenanigans right now and call a spade a
>spade: You're not only a spammer, but not a very bright spammer.




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Old 04-29-2008, 03:39 PM
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Patrick Keenan wrote:

>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications...
>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>
>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniservec ommunications...
>>>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserv ecommunications..
>>>>>.
>>>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>>>>>>pharma-medicine and media.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer
>>>>>cure, and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and
>>>>>hoaxes aimed at the sick and desperate?
>>>>
>>>>You are asking the wrong question.
>>>
>>>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are
>>>questionable.
>>>
>>>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely
>>>reasonable to require proof. You provide none.
>>>
>>>>The question is what does the
>>>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.
>>>
>>>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the
>>>cancers you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know
>>>this subject at all.
>>>
>>>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with
>>>>cannabis oil?
>>>
>>>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer
>>>cure. You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be
>>>affected. If you could, you would be eagerly identifying the
>>>studies and trials. You claim it's "well documented" but refuse
>>>to identify the documentation.
>>>
>>>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that
>>>the material doesn't exist.
>>>
>>>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.
>>>
>>>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>>>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no
>>>studies or trials referenced.
>>>
>>>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can
>>>do to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and
>>>friends.
>>>
>>>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.
>>>
>>>-pk
>>>
>>><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>

>>
>>
>>Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.

>
>Apparently, you lack the ability to read, in addition to your
>inability to answer questions.
>
>I did watch the clips. They do not answer my questions. They are
>only collections of unsubstantiated anecdotes, and there are no real
>references to any identifiable studies or trials.
>
>Do you even know what unsubstantiated anecdotes are?
>
>Why can you not answer my very simple questions? It's not like they
>are remotely challenging.
>
>Perhaps - in fact it appears extremely likely - perhaps your daily
>experience does not include multiple deaths from the many and varied
>forms of cancer.
>
>Perhaps that is why you don't understand that your inability to even
>identify the forms of cancer that you claim are cured just doesn't
>convince me of anything other than your profound ignorance of the
>topic.
>
>Perhaps you don't even know that there are many different forms of
>cancer and they do not respond the same way.
>
>Answer the questions or admit that you can't - though it's clear at
>this point that you can't because the studies and trials don't exist
>and didn't take place.


And they never will sychophant scum, and that is what you want.



>
>Try to be honest for a change. What you are doing now isn't, and
>that's an extremely polite way of phrasing it.
>
>-pk




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Old 04-29-2008, 03:39 PM
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csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Apr 28, 11:54 pm, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>> "Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
>>
>> news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Patrick Keenan wrote:

>>
>> >>"Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
>> >>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniserveco mmunications...
>> >>>Patrick Keenan wrote:

>>
>> >>>>"Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserve communications...
>> >>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>> >>>>>pharma-medicine and media.

>>
>> >>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer

>>cure, >>>>and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and
>>hoaxes >>>>aimed at the sick and desperate?
>>
>> >>>You are asking the wrong question.

>>
>> >>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are

>>questionable.
>>
>> >>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely

>>reasonable to >>require proof. You provide none.
>>
>> >>>The question is what does the
>> >>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.

>>
>> >>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the

>>cancers >>you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know
>>this subject at >>all.
>>
>> >>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with

>>cannabis >>>oil?
>>
>> >>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer

>>cure. >>You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be
>>affected. If you >>could, you would be eagerly identifying the
>>studies and trials. You >>claim it's "well documented" but
>>refuse to identify the documentation.
>>
>> >>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear

>>that the >>material doesn't exist.
>>
>> >>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.

>>
>> >>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>> >>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are

>>no >>studies or trials referenced.
>>
>> >>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures"

>>can do >>to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and
>>friends.
>>
>> >>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.

>>
>> >>-pk

>>
>> >><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>

>>
>> > Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.

>>
>> Apparently, you lack the ability to read, in addition to your
>>inability to answer questions.
>>
>> I did watch the clips. They do not answer my questions. They
>>are only collections of unsubstantiated anecdotes, and there are
>>no real references to any identifiable studies or trials.
>>
>> Do you even know what unsubstantiated anecdotes are?
>>
>> Why can you not answer my very simple questions? It's not like
>>they are remotely challenging.
>>
>> Perhaps - in fact it appears extremely likely - perhaps your daily
>> experience does not include multiple deaths from the many and
>>varied forms of cancer.
>>
>> Perhaps that is why you don't understand that your inability to
>>even identify the forms of cancer that you claim are cured just
>>doesn't convince me of anything other than your profound ignorance
>>of the topic.
>>
>> Perhaps you don't even know that there are many different forms of
>>cancer and they do not respond the same way.
>>
>> Answer the questions or admit that you can't - though it's clear
>>at this point that you can't because the studies and trials don't
>>exist and didn't take place.
>>
>> Try to be honest for a change. What you are doing now isn't, and
>>that's an extremely polite way of phrasing it.
>>
>> -pk

>
>Just a quick note to say "Thanks, Patrick". I suspect that I'm only
>one of many who were somewhat tempted to waste time on his video, but
>can now avoid it thanks to your posting a synopsis. To Anarchore, the
>tone and content of your posts has done you no favors. If you'd
>bothered (and were able) to answer Patrick's questions, you might have
>convinced someone else to click your links. As it is, you just look
>foolish.
>
>---
>CSM
>(pro-MJ-legalization, anti-fraud)


March of the pharmaceutical sychophants... enjoy your radiation
treatment, scumbag.

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Old 04-29-2008, 03:39 PM
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"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
news:3vydneC-kYRktorVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@uniservecommunications...
> csm7532@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Apr 28, 11:54 pm, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>>> "Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>
>>> >>"Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
>>> >>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniserveco mmunications...
>>> >>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>"Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
>>> >>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserve communications...
>>> >>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>>> >>>>>pharma-medicine and media.
>>>
>>> >>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer
>>>cure, >>>>and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and
>>>hoaxes >>>>aimed at the sick and desperate?
>>>
>>> >>>You are asking the wrong question.
>>>
>>> >>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are
>>>questionable.
>>>
>>> >>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely
>>>reasonable to >>require proof. You provide none.
>>>
>>> >>>The question is what does the
>>> >>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.
>>>
>>> >>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the
>>>cancers >>you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know
>>>this subject at >>all.
>>>
>>> >>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with
>>>cannabis >>>oil?
>>>
>>> >>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer
>>>cure. >>You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be
>>>affected. If you >>could, you would be eagerly identifying the
>>>studies and trials. You >>claim it's "well documented" but
>>>refuse to identify the documentation.
>>>
>>> >>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear
>>>that the >>material doesn't exist.
>>>
>>> >>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.
>>>
>>> >>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>>> >>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are
>>>no >>studies or trials referenced.
>>>
>>> >>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures"
>>>can do >>to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and
>>>friends.
>>>
>>> >>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.
>>>
>>> >>-pk
>>>
>>> >><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>
>>>
>>> > Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.
>>>
>>> Apparently, you lack the ability to read, in addition to your
>>>inability to answer questions.
>>>
>>> I did watch the clips. They do not answer my questions. They
>>>are only collections of unsubstantiated anecdotes, and there are
>>>no real references to any identifiable studies or trials.
>>>
>>> Do you even know what unsubstantiated anecdotes are?
>>>
>>> Why can you not answer my very simple questions? It's not like
>>>they are remotely challenging.
>>>
>>> Perhaps - in fact it appears extremely likely - perhaps your daily
>>> experience does not include multiple deaths from the many and
>>>varied forms of cancer.
>>>
>>> Perhaps that is why you don't understand that your inability to
>>>even identify the forms of cancer that you claim are cured just
>>>doesn't convince me of anything other than your profound ignorance
>>>of the topic.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you don't even know that there are many different forms of
>>>cancer and they do not respond the same way.
>>>
>>> Answer the questions or admit that you can't - though it's clear
>>>at this point that you can't because the studies and trials don't
>>>exist and didn't take place.
>>>
>>> Try to be honest for a change. What you are doing now isn't, and
>>>that's an extremely polite way of phrasing it.
>>>
>>> -pk

>>
>>Just a quick note to say "Thanks, Patrick". I suspect that I'm only
>>one of many who were somewhat tempted to waste time on his video, but
>>can now avoid it thanks to your posting a synopsis. To Anarchore, the
>>tone and content of your posts has done you no favors. If you'd
>>bothered (and were able) to answer Patrick's questions, you might have
>>convinced someone else to click your links. As it is, you just look
>>foolish.
>>
>>---
>>CSM
>>(pro-MJ-legalization, anti-fraud)

>
> March of the pharmaceutical sychophants... enjoy your radiation
> treatment, scumbag.


Now there is the face of compassion.

-pk


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Old 04-29-2008, 03:39 PM
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"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
news:3vydneG-kYRXtorVnZ2dnUVZ_q6mnZ2d@uniservecommunications...
> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>
>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications...
>>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniserve communications...
>>>>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniser vecommunications..
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>>>>>>>pharma-medicine and media.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer
>>>>>>cure, and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and
>>>>>>hoaxes aimed at the sick and desperate?
>>>>>
>>>>>You are asking the wrong question.
>>>>
>>>>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are
>>>>questionable.
>>>>
>>>>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely
>>>>reasonable to require proof. You provide none.
>>>>
>>>>>The question is what does the
>>>>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.
>>>>
>>>>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the
>>>>cancers you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know
>>>>this subject at all.
>>>>
>>>>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with
>>>>>cannabis oil?
>>>>
>>>>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer
>>>>cure. You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be
>>>>affected. If you could, you would be eagerly identifying the
>>>>studies and trials. You claim it's "well documented" but refuse
>>>>to identify the documentation.
>>>>
>>>>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that
>>>>the material doesn't exist.
>>>>
>>>>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.
>>>>
>>>>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>>>>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no
>>>>studies or trials referenced.
>>>>
>>>>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can
>>>>do to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and
>>>>friends.
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.
>>>>
>>>>-pk
>>>>
>>>><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>
>>>
>>>
>>>Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.

>>
>>Apparently, you lack the ability to read, in addition to your
>>inability to answer questions.
>>
>>I did watch the clips. They do not answer my questions. They are
>>only collections of unsubstantiated anecdotes, and there are no real
>>references to any identifiable studies or trials.
>>
>>Do you even know what unsubstantiated anecdotes are?
>>
>>Why can you not answer my very simple questions? It's not like they
>>are remotely challenging.
>>
>>Perhaps - in fact it appears extremely likely - perhaps your daily
>>experience does not include multiple deaths from the many and varied
>>forms of cancer.
>>
>>Perhaps that is why you don't understand that your inability to even
>>identify the forms of cancer that you claim are cured just doesn't
>>convince me of anything other than your profound ignorance of the
>>topic.
>>
>>Perhaps you don't even know that there are many different forms of
>>cancer and they do not respond the same way.
>>
>>Answer the questions or admit that you can't - though it's clear at
>>this point that you can't because the studies and trials don't exist
>>and didn't take place.

>
> And they never will


Thank you for* finally* admitting that these claims you make aren't based on
any studies or trials, and are entirely based on unsubstantiated and
undocumented anecdotes.

You don't have any proof whatsoever that your claim of cure is true. All
you have is third and fourth hand, undocumented stories.

And that simply isn't good enough.

> sychophant scum,


Right. You can't honestly answer a simple question, so you resort to
name-calling.

That attitude, combined with your ignorance and dishonesty, is sure not
going to win you converts.

> and that is what you want.


You have no idea what I want. You apparently don't even know that there
are various forms of cancer, yet you claim to have a cure.

There might be some valid clinical use for cannabis oils, but if you're
going to misrepresent and lie about it, you will only push away the rational
people who might be able to actually conduct or arrange studies and trials.
They won't want to be associated with liars and frauds.

Your attitude does nothing but further associate the substance with
crackpots who have zero understanding of science, and that pushes the
possibility of real trials fuirther away.

You could have been honest in the first place and simply answered that there
weren't any studies or trials.

You made a choice to not answer honestly. But what else should we expect
from a Holocaust denier or "revisionist"?

-pk


>
>
>
>>
>>Try to be honest for a change. What you are doing now isn't, and
>>that's an extremely polite way of phrasing it.
>>
>>-pk

>
>
>
> --
> If you're thick enough to believe that Jews are your enemy why the
> fuck would I want to have anything to do with you.
> Consider me a Jew.
> Consider me a fag.
> Consider me an immigrant.



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Old 04-29-2008, 06:03 PM
Marc Bissonnette
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Default Re: RCMP and Government of Canada are killing us! Documentary - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer

csm7532@hotmail.com fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
result:
news:5786253e-7668-4e29-8514-dcf4a9c8ef2a@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 28, 10:27 pm, Marc Bissonnette <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com>
> wrote:
>> "Anarchore" <e...@t.me> fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
>> result:news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications:
>>
>> > Patrick Keenan wrote:

>>
>> >>"Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
>> >>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniserveco mmunications...
>> >>>Patrick Keenan wrote:

>>
>> >>>>"Anarchore" <e...@t.me> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@uniserve communications...
>> >>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>> >>>>>pharma-medicine and media.

>>
>> >>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a cancer
>> >>>>cure, and not just another in a long list of frauds, cons and
>> >>>>hoaxes aimed at the sick and desperate?

>>
>> >>>You are asking the wrong question.

>>
>> >>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are
>> >>questionable.

>>
>> >>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely reasonable
>> >>to require proof. You provide none.

>>
>> >>>The question is what does the
>> >>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.

>>
>> >>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the
>> >>cancers you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know this
>> >>subject at all.

>>
>> >>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with
>> >>>cannabis oil?

>>
>> >>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer
>> >>cure. You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be affected.
>> >>If you could, you would be eagerly identifying the studies and
>> >>trials. You claim it's "well documented" but refuse to identify
>> >>the documentation.

>>
>> >>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear that
>> >>the material doesn't exist.

>>
>> >>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good start.

>>
>> >>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>> >>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There are no
>> >>studies or trials referenced.

>>
>> >>I guess you've never seen what health frauds and fake "cures" can
>> >>do to cancer victims and the survivors, their families and friends.

>>
>> >>Perhaps you just don't care about those people.

>>
>> >>-pk

>>
>> >><snip anarchore's attempts at avoidance>

>>
>> > Just watch the film and stop being such a shithead.

>>
>> Instead of being a "shithead" yourself, why do you not or can you not
>> provide even a single shred of evidence of your claims ?
>>
>> You obviously didn't real Patrick's reply as he *did* watch your film
>> and stated quite clearly that it's full of anecdotal claims without a
>> single shred of actual proof that this affects a specific cancer. You
>> are aware, are you not, that there *are* multiple forms of cancer ?
>> You are aware, are you not, that a treatment for one cancer (whether
>> traditional or alternative) is not only not necessarily effective on
>> another type, but may actually be harmful ?
>>
>> What is it with you alternative treatment holy rollers that gets your
>> back up when someone asks you to show _proof_ that it actually does
>> anything, rather than some random guy or girl in a video saying "I'm
>> cured! Wow!"
>>
>> Just to be even clearer, here's the *reason* people ask for and need
>> proof:
>>
>> Let's say I'm selling/pushing an alternative cure of, say, pulped
>> dandilion seeds as a cure for cancer. I happen to sell em and make a
>> profit of, say, $10 a dose. I can, within ten minutes of *right now*
>> get a dozen people to appear in a video, claim they are cancer
>> survivors and were all cured by smearing dandilion seed pulp on their
>> left ear lobe and right big toe.

>
> You can stop right there. You clearly know *nothing* about the
> dandelion cure---it's the *left* big toe, and you have to drink a pint
> of special pure onion juice just before the rub, and all in the light
> of a gibbous moon. Ear lobes have nothing to do with it. You also
> didn't post the video, which would have supported your case no end.
> Please leave fear-based quackery and fraud to the professionals.


Ha! Shows what _you_ know: There _is_ a video proving it, but it's, uh,
being suppressed by The Man and Big Pharmaceutical because, you know,
they're all trying to kill us: After all, everyone knows that once you
die, they make _so_ much more money off of us.

By the by, light of the gibbous moon will make the cure ineffective - You
have to do it in total darkness while smoking marijuhanna and taking 3KG
of iron supplements.


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Old 04-29-2008, 07:49 PM
Anarchore
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Default Re: RCMP and Government of Canada are killing us! Documentary - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer

Patrick Keenan wrote:

>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>news:3vydneG-kYRXtorVnZ2dnUVZ_q6mnZ2d@uniservecommunications...
>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>
>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>news:IPidnZ6856-J9IvVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@uniservecommunications...
>>>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>>>news:SomdnTXTfIUx2IjVnZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@uniserv ecommunications..
>>>>>.
>>>>>>Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Anarchore" <e@t.me> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:hMOdnUYW0_45sYjVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@unise rvecommunicatio
>>>>>>>ns.. .
>>>>>>>>Another cancer cure is being ignored by mainstream
>>>>>>>>pharma-medicine and media.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Are you actually able to show that this actually is a
>>>>>>>cancer cure, and not just another in a long list of
>>>>>>>frauds, cons and hoaxes aimed at the sick and desperate?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You are asking the wrong question.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am asking exactly the right question where claims are
>>>>>questionable.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're making an extraordinary claim, it is entirely
>>>>>reasonable to require proof. You provide none.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The question is what does the
>>>>>>pharmaceutical industry have to lose from this discovery.
>>>>>
>>>>>One of the clear answers is that you can't even identify the
>>>>>cancers you claim are cured by this. You clearly don't know
>>>>>this subject at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>>What does he have to gain from curing people's cancer with
>>>>>>cannabis oil?
>>>>>
>>>>>In other words, you cannot show that this is actually a cancer
>>>>>cure. You don't even know what cancers are claimed to be
>>>>>affected. If you could, you would be eagerly identifying the
>>>>>studies and trials. You claim it's "well documented" but
>>>>>refuse to identify the documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can't do this - you flat out refuse to - and it's clear
>>>>>that the material doesn't exist.
>>>>>
>>>>>You could be honest and just say so. It would be a good
>>>>>start.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have watched your films and they are a collection of
>>>>>unsubstantiated anecdotes, targeting the desperate. There
>>>>>are no stu