Roll Call to alt.support.cancer (May/2008)

On Jun 4, 6:37 pm, Marc Bissonnette <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com>
wrote:
> csm7...@hotmail.com fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
> result:news:e98bca7a-819a-42b0-beea-1efad052a5ac@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 10:11 pm, Marc Bissonnette <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com>
> > wrote:
> >> "Uncle Sally" <therealUncleSa...@gmail.com> fell face-first on the
> >> keyboard. This was the
> >> result:news:Rwm1k.60683$RG7.50111@fe09.news.easyne ws.com:
>
> >> > Marc wrote :
>
> >> > "Not that I know of, but then again, I wouldn't know what a yeast
> >> > infection in the mouth is like (I'm sincerely hoping your response
> >> > is along the lines of "If you don't know, you definitely don't have
> >> > it"
> >> > "
>
> >> > in response to this from us :
>
> >> > > May I ask you if you have had any problems with yeast
> >> > > infection in the mouth along the way ? I ask this because one
> >> > > working hypothesis I have is that the recurrent yeast
> >> > > infection I have been unable to get rid of despite multiple
> >> > > courses of powerful anti-fungals may be contributing to the
> >> > > chronically insensate and irritated tissues of my oral cavity
> >> > > one year post radio-chemo trauma.
>
> >> > Hi Marc,
>
> >> > I personally believe you would know what it is, but I have only the
> >> > experience of my own condition which includes visible white
> >> > blotches that build up on the tongue and oral cavity lining, a kind
> >> > of phlegmatic grainy mucus coming out of the vallecula area on
> >> > arising after sleep and expectorating, etc. A good basic overview :
>
> >> > Candidiasis :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast_infection
>
> >> > In my case most of the time the white "blooms" are not visible,
> >> > perhaps because while awake I am drinking small amounts of water
> >> > every five minutes or so to keep my oral tissues hydrated. The
> >> > "blooms" are definitely not as severe as they were in the first
> >> > four months following termination of chemo and radio-therapies.
>
> >> > For all I know there may be many other forms of radiation related
> >> > Candida oral infections with sub-clinical symptoms or signs, but I
> >> > am not qualified to offer any reasonable opinion. I do know that
> >> > yeast is one of many organisms normally present in the human body
> >> > ... in the alimentary system. I have been told by my ENT and Onco
> >> > that the reason it happens in the oral cavity post radiation is the
> >> > immune-compromised nature of the tissue.
>
> >> > In my case I wonder if my diet (almost 98% soy milk + nutritional
> >> > supplement powder [said powder having both skim and whole milk
> >> > solids, soy, etc.] ) and my "sweet-tooth" appetite for sugar may be
> >> > contributing to the ongoing yeast-factory I am, I am.
>
> >> > I am sure we will hear from other members of this group who have
> >> > more detailed knowledge on this topic.
>
> >> > For myself, I have decided to take no further courses of
> >> > anti-fungals after more than six two-week courses of a variety of
> >> > same. Perhaps I can find meaning in serving yeast
>
> >> Ah, okay, nope, I haven't experienced any of that (Maybe there's too
> >> much iron in my diet ? <DUCK, RUN>
>
> > Why should ducks run? If only we were all vegetarians, ducks wouldn't
> > have to run; they could live in peace. And if we consumed enough
> > cannabis, we wouldn't be bothering those poor ducks. And if we drank
> > plenty of onion juice, the ducks would smell us from afar, and could
> > casually waddle to safety. See? All these "treatments" are good for
> > something after all. We should iron out our differences with the
> > kooks and stop goosing them.
>
> ROFL You just *know* you're on a hate list, now
>
> --
> Marc Bissonnette
> Looking for a new ISP?http://www.canadianisp.com
> Largest ISP comparison site across Canada.

Getting on *their* hate list just takes one reasoned post. Humor
tends to go over their heads, anyway. I don't know how many hate
lists I'm on, but it's probably a lot. As long as they don't know I
live at 273 Elm St., Lower Finch, NL, USA, and start coming by my
house to harass me, I don't mind if they hate me.

On Jun 4, 8:45 pm, "Uncle Sally" <therealUncleSa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> CSM, fresh out of shock-treatment, limned :
>
> "Why should ducks run? If only we were all vegetarians, ducks wouldn't
> have to run; they could live in peace. And if we consumed enough
> cannabis, we wouldn't be bothering those poor ducks. And if we drank
> plenty of onion juice, the ducks would smell us from afar, and could
> casually waddle to safety. See? All these "treatments" are good for
> something after all. We should iron out our differences with the
> kooks and stop goosing them."
>
> Dear CSM,
>
> imho if the kooks know we are chicken, they will be emboldened, as well as
> the quacks, not to mention the culture-vultures.

LOL. It's good we can find entertainment in cuckoos, rather than let
them be flys in the ointment.

> regards, Uncle Sally, involuntary vegetarian
>
> "Talk about things of tomorrow, and the mice in the ceiling laugh."
> (Japanese Proverb : ""Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau.")

I tried a couple of online translators on the above, and both came up
with "Asu no koto o ieba and tenjo de nezumi ga warau" as the English
from Japanese. Now (still no coffee yet this a.m.), I notice your
translation above, but the Babel/WordLingo version still amuses. A
Google on the original gets many hits, some with the translation.
Computers are such tools.

---
CSM

csm7532@hotmail.com fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
result:
news:9ae2cd2d-0fc6-40b3-b0e6-5aeb5697647f@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 4, 6:37 pm, Marc Bissonnette <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com>
> wrote:
>> csm7...@hotmail.com fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
>> result:news:e98bca7a-819a-42b0-beea-1efad052a5ac@m44g2000hsc.googlegro
>> ups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 3, 10:11 pm, Marc Bissonnette <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> "Uncle Sally" <therealUncleSa...@gmail.com> fell face-first on the
>> >> keyboard. This was the
>> >> result:news:Rwm1k.60683$RG7.50111@fe09.news.easyne ws.com:
>>
>> >> > Marc wrote :
>>
>> >> > "Not that I know of, but then again, I wouldn't know what a
>> >> > yeast infection in the mouth is like (I'm sincerely hoping your
>> >> > response is along the lines of "If you don't know, you
>> >> > definitely don't have it"
>> >> > "
>>
>> >> > in response to this from us :
>>
>> >> > > May I ask you if you have had any problems with yeast
>> >> > > infection in the mouth along the way ? I ask this because
>> >> > > one working hypothesis I have is that the recurrent yeast
>> >> > > infection I have been unable to get rid of despite
>> >> > > multiple courses of powerful anti-fungals may be
>> >> > > contributing to the chronically insensate and irritated
>> >> > > tissues of my oral cavity one year post radio-chemo
>> >> > > trauma.
>>
>> >> > Hi Marc,
>>
>> >> > I personally believe you would know what it is, but I have only
>> >> > the experience of my own condition which includes visible white
>> >> > blotches that build up on the tongue and oral cavity lining, a
>> >> > kind of phlegmatic grainy mucus coming out of the vallecula area
>> >> > on arising after sleep and expectorating, etc. A good basic
>> >> > overview :
>>
>> >> > Candidiasis :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast_infection
>>
>> >> > In my case most of the time the white "blooms" are not visible,
>> >> > perhaps because while awake I am drinking small amounts of water
>> >> > every five minutes or so to keep my oral tissues hydrated. The
>> >> > "blooms" are definitely not as severe as they were in the first
>> >> > four months following termination of chemo and radio-therapies.
>>
>> >> > For all I know there may be many other forms of radiation
>> >> > related Candida oral infections with sub-clinical symptoms or
>> >> > signs, but I am not qualified to offer any reasonable opinion. I
>> >> > do know that yeast is one of many organisms normally present in
>> >> > the human body ... in the alimentary system. I have been told by
>> >> > my ENT and Onco that the reason it happens in the oral cavity
>> >> > post radiation is the immune-compromised nature of the tissue.
>>
>> >> > In my case I wonder if my diet (almost 98% soy milk +
>> >> > nutritional supplement powder [said powder having both skim and
>> >> > whole milk solids, soy, etc.] ) and my "sweet-tooth" appetite
>> >> > for sugar may be contributing to the ongoing yeast-factory I am,
>> >> > I am.
>>
>> >> > I am sure we will hear from other members of this group who have
>> >> > more detailed knowledge on this topic.
>>
>> >> > For myself, I have decided to take no further courses of
>> >> > anti-fungals after more than six two-week courses of a variety
>> >> > of same. Perhaps I can find meaning in serving yeast
>>
>> >> Ah, okay, nope, I haven't experienced any of that (Maybe there's
>> >> too much iron in my diet ? <DUCK, RUN>
>>
>> > Why should ducks run? If only we were all vegetarians, ducks
>> > wouldn't have to run; they could live in peace. And if we consumed
>> > enough cannabis, we wouldn't be bothering those poor ducks. And if
>> > we drank plenty of onion juice, the ducks would smell us from afar,
>> > and could casually waddle to safety. See? All these "treatments"
>> > are good for something after all. We should iron out our
>> > differences with the kooks and stop goosing them.
>>
>> ROFL You just *know* you're on a hate list, now

>
> Getting on *their* hate list just takes one reasoned post. Humor
> tends to go over their heads, anyway. I don't know how many hate
> lists I'm on, but it's probably a lot. As long as they don't know I
> live at 273 Elm St., Lower Finch, NL, USA, and start coming by my
> house to harass me, I don't mind if they hate me.

Oh you're just evil



--
Marc Bissonnette
Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
Largest ISP comparison site across Canada.

On 4 jun, 03:49, "Uncle Sally" <therealUncleSa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Marc wrote :
>
> "Not that I know of, but then again, I wouldn't know what ayeastinfectionin the mouth is like (I'm sincerely hoping your response is
> along the lines of "If you don't know, you definitely don't have it" "
>
> in response to this from us :
>
> > May I ask you if you have had any problems withyeastinfectionin the
> > mouth along the way ? I ask this because one working hypothesis I have
> > is that the recurrentyeastinfectionI have been unable to get rid of
> > despite multiple courses of powerful anti-fungals may be contributing
> > to the chronically insensate and irritated tissues of my oral cavity
> > one year post radio-chemo trauma.
>
> Hi Marc,
>
> I personally believe you would know what it is, but I have only the
> experience of my own condition which includes visible white blotches that
> build up on thetongueand oral cavity lining, a kind of phlegmatic grainy
> mucus coming out of the vallecula area on arising after sleep and
> expectorating, etc. A good basic overview :
>
> Candidiasis :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast_infection
>
> In my case most of the time the white "blooms" are not visible, perhaps
> because while awake I am drinking small amounts of water every five minutes
> or so to keep my oral tissues hydrated. The "blooms" are definitely not as
> severe as they were in the first four months following termination of chemo
> and radio-therapies.
>
> For all I know there may be many other forms of radiation related Candida
> oral infections with sub-clinical symptoms or signs, but I am not qualified
> to offer any reasonable opinion. I do know thatyeastis one of many
> organisms normally present in the human body ... in the alimentary system. I
> have been told by my ENT and Onco that the reason it happens in the oral
> cavity post radiation is the immune-compromised nature of the tissue.
>
> In my case I wonder if my diet (almost 98% soy milk + nutritional supplement
> powder [said powder having both skim and whole milk solids, soy, etc.] ) and
> my "sweet-tooth" appetite for sugar may be contributing to the ongoingyeast-factory I am, I am.
>
> I am sure we will hear from other members of this group who have more
> detailed knowledge on this topic.
>
> For myself, I have decided to take no further courses of anti-fungals after
> more than six two-week courses of a variety of same. Perhaps I can find
> meaning in servingyeast
>
> best, Uncle Sally

I have asthma, so I have to use a lot of inhalers. Especially during
the summer when my allergies are acting up.

Now I really hate having to use them and carry them around with me at
all times, so I don't really take as good care of them as I should.
You know, I just throw them in a bag, put them in my pocket, even
accidentily drop them on occasion. So I really should clean them at
least once a day...which I didn't. Untill, I noticed I had a white
tongue.

Didn't know what it was until I looked around on the internet. Turns
out a white tongue is one of the symptoms of oral thrush. I found out
how to get rid of a yeast tongue at this site:
<a href="http://www.squidoo.com/yeast-infection-of-the-
tounge"><b>http://www.squidoo.com/yeast-infection-of-the-tounge</b></
a>

I haven't had any symptoms of oral thrush since, so I think it's safe
to say that site helped me get rid of my oral yeast infection. And
without using any chemical drugs. Maybe it can help you too.