Called it!

The mid-term election aren't even over and the GOP is talking about
bipartisan unity and democrats and republicans working together.

"If you're not with us, you're against us." - George W. Bush

_/ Ivan Marsh wrote \_
> The mid-term election aren't even over and the GOP is talking about
> bipartisan unity and democrats and republicans working together.
>
> "If you're not with us, you're against us." - George W. Bush

No more Rumsfeld too.

--
-slunky

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:44:10 +0000, slunky wrote:

> _/ Ivan Marsh wrote \_
>> The mid-term election aren't even over and the GOP is talking about
>> bipartisan unity and democrats and republicans working together.
>>
>> "If you're not with us, you're against us." - George W. Bush
>
> No more Rumsfeld too.

Apparently Americans don't like to be lied to and deceived... who knew?

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:42:42 -0600, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:

>The mid-term election aren't even over and the GOP is talking about
>bipartisan unity and democrats and republicans working together.

Old hat. I called that way back when the GOP took control of congress
during the Clinton administration and the Dems were saying the very same
things.

Politicians always kiss each others asses whenever they switch chairs.

Ivan Marsh wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:44:10 +0000, slunky wrote:
>
> > _/ Ivan Marsh wrote \_
> >> The mid-term election aren't even over and the GOP is talking about
> >> bipartisan unity and democrats and republicans working together.
> >>
> >> "If you're not with us, you're against us." - George W. Bush
> >
> > No more Rumsfeld too.
>
> Apparently Americans don't like to be lied to and deceived... who knew?

As opposed to what we got from the Clinton Administration?

Bobbie

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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote:
> No more Rumsfeld too.

I call this progress :-)

Rummy is already 74, so I don't demand that he
should go to prison for his crimes.

Next, Cheney has to step down.


Thomas

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:10:20 -0800, crysalis7 wrote:

> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:44:10 +0000, slunky wrote:
>>
>> > _/ Ivan Marsh wrote \_
>> >> The mid-term election aren't even over and the GOP is talking about
>> >> bipartisan unity and democrats and republicans working together.
>> >>
>> >> "If you're not with us, you're against us." - George W. Bush
>> >
>> > No more Rumsfeld too.
>>
>> Apparently Americans don't like to be lied to and deceived... who knew?
>
> As opposed to what we got from the Clinton Administration?

I don't remember Clinton forcing the CIA and FBI to falsify reports to get
us into a multi-theater conflict. When did that happen?

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:14:11 +0100, Thomas Dehn wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote:
>> No more Rumsfeld too.
>
> I call this progress :-)
>
> Rummy is already 74, so I don't demand that he should go to prison for
> his crimes.
>
> Next, Cheney has to step down.

Cheney and Rummie need to be investigated for war profiteering... and then
hanged by the neck until dead.

In message <pan.2006.11.08.18.42.42.812693@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes

>The mid-term election aren't even over and the GOP is talking about
>bipartisan unity and democrats and republicans working together.

"Help us get out of the mess we made"?

--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?

long ago and far away, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de> did say:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>
>"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote:
>> No more Rumsfeld too.
>
>I call this progress :-)
>
>Rummy is already 74, so I don't demand that he
>should go to prison for his crimes.
>
>Next, Cheney has to step down.

god i wish. he is scary.

--
"you don't have to eat the entire turd
to know that it's not a crab cake." (orson scott card)
http://shattering.org
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Ivan Marsh wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:14:11 +0100, Thomas Dehn wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote:
>>> No more Rumsfeld too.
>> I call this progress :-)
>>
>> Rummy is already 74, so I don't demand that he should go to prison for
>> his crimes.
>>
>> Next, Cheney has to step down.
>
> Cheney and Rummie need to be investigated for war profiteering... and then
> hanged by the neck until dead.

As opposed to hanging by the neck for erotic purposes?

crysalis7@yahoo.com wrote:

>> Apparently Americans don't like to be lied to and deceived... who knew?
> As opposed to what we got from the Clinton Administration?
> Bobbie


One cartoon I saw recently had a donkey looking in the mirror,
with an elephant looking back (and an elephant seeing a donkey)

I don't like either of them much. It has mystified me
for many years now why there's any loyalty to either. I have
the advantage of coming from a 3rd generation disillusioned
family background, from the hints I can glean about it.

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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:10:20 -0800, crysalis7 wrote:
>
> > Ivan Marsh wrote:
> >> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:44:10 +0000, slunky wrote:
> >>
> >> > _/ Ivan Marsh wrote \_
> >> >> The mid-term election aren't even over and the GOP is talking about
> >> >> bipartisan unity and democrats and republicans working together.
> >> >>
> >> >> "If you're not with us, you're against us." - George W. Bush
> >> >
> >> > No more Rumsfeld too.
> >>
> >> Apparently Americans don't like to be lied to and deceived... who knew?
> >
> > As opposed to what we got from the Clinton Administration?
>
> I don't remember Clinton forcing the CIA and FBI to falsify reports to get
> us into a multi-theater conflict. When did that happen?

How about that aspirin factory in Sudan?

The Bush administration just pushed this onto the next level.


Thomas

In message <o5v4l2tmd65k001tcqj08m0a5hlf4lsfpo@4ax.com>, elegy
<elegy@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> writes
>long ago and far away, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de> did say:
>>"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote:
>>> No more Rumsfeld too.
>>
>>I call this progress :-)
>>
>>Rummy is already 74, so I don't demand that he
>>should go to prison for his crimes.
>>
>>Next, Cheney has to step down.
>
>god i wish. he is scary.

You have to hope Bush survives, don't you? President Cheney?

--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:14:09 +0100, Thomas Dehn wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> "Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:10:20 -0800, crysalis7 wrote:
>>
>> > Ivan Marsh wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:44:10 +0000, slunky wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > _/ Ivan Marsh wrote \_
>> >> >> The mid-term election aren't even over and the GOP is talking about
>> >> >> bipartisan unity and democrats and republicans working together.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "If you're not with us, you're against us." - George W. Bush
>> >> >
>> >> > No more Rumsfeld too.
>> >>
>> >> Apparently Americans don't like to be lied to and deceived... who knew?
>> >
>> > As opposed to what we got from the Clinton Administration?
>>
>> I don't remember Clinton forcing the CIA and FBI to falsify reports to get
>> us into a multi-theater conflict. When did that happen?
>
> How about that aspirin factory in Sudan?

I wouldn't compare that to the full blown invasion of two countries under
false pretenses.

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:15:45 -0700, Franz Bestuchev wrote:

> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:14:11 +0100, Thomas Dehn wrote:
>>
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote:
>>>> No more Rumsfeld too.
>>> I call this progress :-)
>>>
>>> Rummy is already 74, so I don't demand that he should go to prison for
>>> his crimes.
>>>
>>> Next, Cheney has to step down.
>>
>> Cheney and Rummie need to be investigated for war profiteering... and then
>> hanged by the neck until dead.
>
> As opposed to hanging by the neck for erotic purposes?

Can you be sentenced to auto-erotic-asphyxiation?

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 04:31:29 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com> wrote:

>crysalis7@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>> Apparently Americans don't like to be lied to and deceived... who knew?
>> As opposed to what we got from the Clinton Administration?
>> Bobbie
>
>
>One cartoon I saw recently had a donkey looking in the mirror,
>with an elephant looking back (and an elephant seeing a donkey)
>
>I don't like either of them much. It has mystified me
>for many years now why there's any loyalty to either. I have
>the advantage of coming from a 3rd generation disillusioned
>family background, from the hints I can glean about it.

I've also never understood why so many people have a strong preference for
one or the other. I suspect many of them are one or two issue thinkers.

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:04:42 -0600, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:14:09 +0100, Thomas Dehn wrote:
>
>> How about that aspirin factory in Sudan?
>
>I wouldn't compare that to the full blown invasion of two countries under
>false pretenses.

Two countries? You can't say that to Thomas. Isn't Germany involved in
Afghanistan also?

Ivan Marsh wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:15:45 -0700, Franz Bestuchev wrote:
>
>> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>>> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:14:11 +0100, Thomas Dehn wrote:
>>>
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote:
>>>>> No more Rumsfeld too.
>>>> I call this progress :-)
>>>>
>>>> Rummy is already 74, so I don't demand that he should go to prison for
>>>> his crimes.
>>>>
>>>> Next, Cheney has to step down.
>>> Cheney and Rummie need to be investigated for war profiteering... and then
>>> hanged by the neck until dead.
>> As opposed to hanging by the neck for erotic purposes?
>
> Can you be sentenced to auto-erotic-asphyxiation?
>

If you're not hanged until dead I suppose you can

elegy wrote:
> long ago and far away, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de> did say:
>
> >x-no-archive: yes
> >
> >
> >"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote:
> >> No more Rumsfeld too.
> >
> >I call this progress :-)
> >
> >Rummy is already 74, so I don't demand that he
> >should go to prison for his crimes.
> >
> >Next, Cheney has to step down.
>
> god i wish. he is scary.
>
> --

yes, the whole administration in extemly scary... just watching Bush
speak at his press conferance yesterday was scary... about how we need
to "win" in Iraq before the soldiers can go home... how exactly are we
going to "win" in Iraq? he still doesn't get it... but I guess in the
insane world we live in, we have to appreciate all the good news we
can, and this mid term election certainly provided some very good
news...

-"Jordy"

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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:04:42 -0600, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:14:09 +0100, Thomas Dehn wrote:
> >
> >> How about that aspirin factory in Sudan?
> >
> >I wouldn't compare that to the full blown invasion of two countries under
> >false pretenses.
>
> Two countries? You can't say that to Thomas.

He can. He just did.

> Isn't Germany involved in Afghanistan also?

Yes. Unfortunately, Germany is somewhat "involved" in Iraq, too.
Just not to the extended that Bush would have
wanted Germany to be involved.


Thomas