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Old 11-09-2006, 10:30 AM
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Yesterday, a cardiologist told me that Bob had a heart attack during
Thursdays surgery and "wasn't going to make it." I wrote and called
all his relatives. Today, the surgeon came by and looked at Bob and
said, "He's over the hump, he'll be fine."

I know, I've got to talk to the cardiologist again. But I'm gonna go
with the surgeon for now./ He's experiencing dementia in the hospital.
He's explaining cyphers to the nurses, telling them he's working in The
Signal Corp, with Eisenhower, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary
Force. He did that 60 years ago. But it's the morphine, I've seen
this before. He's still funny. The nurse asked him if he had a pain,
and he pointed to me.

Brian

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Old 11-09-2006, 10:30 AM
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Brianversion <Brimcg@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday, a cardiologist told me that Bob had a heart attack during
> Thursdays surgery and "wasn't going to make it." I wrote and called
> all his relatives. Today, the surgeon came by and looked at Bob and
> said, "He's over the hump, he'll be fine."



oh boy.

> I know, I've got to talk to the cardiologist again. But I'm gonna go
> with the surgeon for now./ He's experiencing dementia in the hospital.
> He's explaining cyphers to the nurses, telling them he's working in The
> Signal Corp, with Eisenhower, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary
> Force. He did that 60 years ago. But it's the morphine, I've seen
> this before. He's still funny. The nurse asked him if he had a pain,
> and he pointed to me.


morphine, etc. does that.


you are an exceptional friend, you know that?



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Old 11-09-2006, 10:30 AM
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In article <1161572449.525460.118830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
"Brianversion" <Brimcg@gmail.com> wrote:

> He's experiencing dementia in the hospital. He's explaining cyphers
> to the nurses, telling them he's working in The Signal Corp, with
> Eisenhower, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force. He did
> that 60 years ago. But it's the morphine, I've seen this before.


My mother had surgery a couple of months back for a broken leg, and it
was an oddly long time before they let me into the recovery room.
Turned out the combination of morphine and whatever they knocked her
out with had made her crazy. She recognized me and understood most of
what was happening, she knew she'd been hurt and was in the hospital,
but she was very selectively delusional and paranoid. She was convinced
that she was not in any recovery room, that the people around her were
not who they were claiming to be, that everyone there was part of a
conspiracy to mislead her, though why, she couldn't say.

I asked if she knew who I was. She did. I asked her if she trusted ME.
She did. So I just kept drawing on that trust to share with her that
*I* trusted these people, that they were honest, skilled,
well-intentioned medical professionals, and that I wouldn't let anyone
fool her or cause her harm. I told her she was on a lot of drugs that
were making her head act a little funny, and that she needed to bear
that in mind, and bear in mind that the drugs were wearing off by the
minute. And it helped, and she became less afraid, and eventually they
were able to take her back to her room.

Man, some people just do NOT understand how to enjoy narcotics! =8^)

Mark
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:30 AM
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Contrarian wrote:
> Brianversion <Brimcg@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yesterday, a cardiologist told me that Bob had a heart attack during
> > Thursdays surgery and "wasn't going to make it." I wrote and called
> > all his relatives. Today, the surgeon came by and looked at Bob and
> > said, "He's over the hump, he'll be fine."

>
>
> oh boy.
>
> > I know, I've got to talk to the cardiologist again. But I'm gonna go
> > with the surgeon for now./ He's experiencing dementia in the hospital.
> > He's explaining cyphers to the nurses, telling them he's working in The
> > Signal Corp, with Eisenhower, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary
> > Force. He did that 60 years ago. But it's the morphine, I've seen
> > this before. He's still funny. The nurse asked him if he had a pain,
> > and he pointed to me.

>
> morphine, etc. does that.
>
>
> you are an exceptional friend, you know that?


Ah, I'm blessed to have a friend. Just want to get him home. Peace!

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Old 11-09-2006, 10:30 AM
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RGB wrote:
> In article <1161572449.525460.118830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
> "Brianversion" <Brimcg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > He's experiencing dementia in the hospital. He's explaining cyphers
> > to the nurses, telling them he's working in The Signal Corp, with
> > Eisenhower, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force. He did
> > that 60 years ago. But it's the morphine, I've seen this before.

>
> My mother had surgery a couple of months back for a broken leg, and it
> was an oddly long time before they let me into the recovery room.
> Turned out the combination of morphine and whatever they knocked her
> out with had made her crazy. She recognized me and understood most of
> what was happening, she knew she'd been hurt and was in the hospital,
> but she was very selectively delusional and paranoid. She was convinced
> that she was not in any recovery room, that the people around her were
> not who they were claiming to be, that everyone there was part of a
> conspiracy to mislead her, though why, she couldn't say.
>
> I asked if she knew who I was. She did. I asked her if she trusted ME.
> She did. So I just kept drawing on that trust to share with her that
> *I* trusted these people, that they were honest, skilled,
> well-intentioned medical professionals, and that I wouldn't let anyone
> fool her or cause her harm. I told her she was on a lot of drugs that
> were making her head act a little funny, and that she needed to bear
> that in mind, and bear in mind that the drugs were wearing off by the
> minute. And it helped, and she became less afraid, and eventually they
> were able to take her back to her room.

That's the way we do it. It's kind of neat to have a person trust you
like that. And we get to practice that smooth talking, that 'we should
have been a doctor' bedside manner. I mean (I'm only human) sometimes
I hear myself explaining reality to him, and a voice in my head is
saying 'Dam, I'm good at this!' Makes up for all the times I say to
myself 'I suck, the world sucks, let's all give up.'

You put yourself in her position, knew what she was thinking (or HOW
she was thinking) and did the job only you could do.
>
> Man, some people just do NOT understand how to enjoy narcotics! =8^)

I know, me and my mom both stuck out our arms when the nurse brought
Bob his dose.

>
> Mark


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Old 11-09-2006, 10:30 AM
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"Brianversion" <Brimcg@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161572449.525460.118830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Yesterday, a cardiologist told me that Bob had a heart attack during
> Thursdays surgery and "wasn't going to make it." I wrote and called
> all his relatives. Today, the surgeon came by and looked at Bob and
> said, "He's over the hump, he'll be fine."
>
> I know, I've got to talk to the cardiologist again. But I'm gonna go
> with the surgeon for now./ He's experiencing dementia in the hospital.
> He's explaining cyphers to the nurses, telling them he's working in The
> Signal Corp, with Eisenhower, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary
> Force. He did that 60 years ago. But it's the morphine, I've seen
> this before. He's still funny. The nurse asked him if he had a pain,
> and he pointed to me.
>
> Brian
>

God bless you Brian for being his good friend, I hope he can come home and
soon

justa


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Old 11-09-2006, 10:30 AM
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>> > He's experiencing dementia in the hospital. He's explaining cyphers
>> > to the nurses, telling them he's working in The Signal Corp, with
>> > Eisenhower, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force. He did
>> > that 60 years ago.


some of the cryptanalysis machines from the 1970s era are still classified
(evidence Military Cryptanalytics 3). i hope he's not spouting off top
secret stuff, although now that the Soviets are gone, it doesn't matter.

i believe some of the older documents are still sensitive e.g. the documents
in the National Archives that were reclassified in 2006.

Gravity


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Old 11-09-2006, 10:30 AM
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>> > He's experiencing dementia in the hospital. He's explaining cyphers
>> > to the nurses, telling them he's working in The Signal Corp, with
>> > Eisenhower, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force. He did
>> > that 60 years ago. But it's the morphine, I've seen this before.


this sounds fascinating. i know a bit of modern cryptography (Koblitz,
HOAC, et cetera), but i'm not familiar with classical and machine
cryptography.

the nurses must be bored to death, but i'm envious.

Gravity


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Old 11-09-2006, 10:31 AM
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Gravity wrote:
> >> > He's experiencing dementia in the hospital. He's explaining cyphers
> >> > to the nurses, telling them he's working in The Signal Corp, with
> >> > Eisenhower, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force. He did
> >> > that 60 years ago.

>
> some of the cryptanalysis machines from the 1970s era are still classified
> (evidence Military Cryptanalytics 3). i hope he's not spouting off top
> secret stuff, although now that the Soviets are gone, it doesn't matter.
>
> i believe some of the older documents are still sensitive e.g. the documents
> in the National Archives that were reclassified in 2006.
>
> Gravity

He used a machine called SIGABA. Yeah, the nurses don't understand
what he's saying anyway, slurred speech, etc. Bob had an interesting
service career. They kept all the cryptographers back from the front
lines, to lessen the danger of them being captured and interrogated.
But he was in Normandy 3 days after it was secured. He was up in
Belgium, or Northern France, during the breakout (battle of the bulge).
Then, they gave him a rifle. He found a barn and slept with the cows
(being a farmboy, he knew how to get warm). He said the greatest sight
was seeing Allied planes flying after the weather broke that Christmas
time./ He tells a story about seeing a plane(parked) with no propeller
(a jet) and when they told him what it was, he said, "it'll never fly."
He laughs telling that one.

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Old 11-09-2006, 10:31 AM
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justabeing wrote:
> "Brianversion" <Brimcg@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161572449.525460.118830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Yesterday, a cardiologist told me that Bob had a heart attack during
> > Thursdays surgery and "wasn't going to make it." I wrote and called
> > all his relatives. Today, the surgeon came by and looked at Bob and
> > said, "He's over the hump, he'll be fine."
> >
> > I know, I've got to talk to the cardiologist again. But I'm gonna go
> > with the surgeon for now./ He's experiencing dementia in the hospital.
> > He's explaining cyphers to the nurses, telling them he's working in The
> > Signal Corp, with Eisenhower, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary
> > Force. He did that 60 years ago. But it's the morphine, I've seen
> > this before. He's still funny. The nurse asked him if he had a pain,
> > and he pointed to me.
> >
> > Brian
> >

> God bless you Brian for being his good friend, I hope he can come home and
> soon
>
> justa

Me too, buddy. He was eating real food today, no more IV nourishment.
So I hope that's a good sign. The physical therapist came in, we tried
to get him walking with the quad cane again, but it looks like he's
gonna have to go back to the walker for awhile. And the cardiologist
is out of town till Thursday, the one who told me he wasn't gonna make
it. But there is a covering cardiologist, maybe I'll meet him tonight.
I am on my best behavior, not appearing pissed off that I am getting
conflicting messages. if I get indignant, I'll blow the lines of
communication(I fear) Peace, Dan.
Brian

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