Hi, im new here, do you guys post this frequently all the time?

Ok, yes you are right...

I think perhaps this is not the place for me, not for my particular
personality. Im already feeling more depressed for being here, that is, I
took a swipe, everyone took a swipe, I dont know....for me that doesnt solve
depression. I guess that is fine, as someone else said, different strokes
for different folkes.

I do have thoughts on it though, to me, taking swipes at people is
depression. Few people actually said, woah buddy, that initial post was
kinda rude and coulda been fraised better, your negative thoughts arnt
conducive to happiness. Instead most became sarcstic, defensive and stayed
defensive and as a result focused on the negative instead of the positive,
which of course is depression. That is, people clung to the negative aspects
of what I said without acknologing the truth in it. (I agree thats partially
my fault as to the tone of the initial post) Clinging to the negative
aspects in itself is a cause of depression.

On the positive your post was a constructive thought out post.

I think perhaps its better to be around non depressed people if you are
depressed, it rubs off better. Either that or practice hard to point out the
positive things so that people can see they are being negative and thats not
an easy thing to do, being depressed and all because most the time you are
unaware of it urself.

John

"BoredToTears" <beejayceee1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1163037052.241414.321210@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> John Sheppard wrote:
>> Oh I understand that. Just stating my feelings is all. When I reach my
>> threshhold I will move on.
>>
>> It is fairly common nature to feel frustrated when people ignore a point.
>> It's part of wanting to fit in a comminity and be understood. You might
>> see
>> the conundrum I have here. Increase my threshold of frustration, exist
>> detatched (i.e. ignore idiots) or find better aquantances (i.e.. stop
>> reading).
>>
>> I do not believe that is so simple, perhaps im wrong, perhaps you could
>> supply me with other suggestions? At this point the best option is
>> existing
>> detatched, which as you may well know leads to depression.
>
> I don't see that people *are* ignoring your point, just replying to it
> in their own way. The one-liners you complained about do serve a
> purpose, imo. They can provide a distraction, they can raise a smile,
> they can provoke people to start threads like this one, they can
> infuriate and annoy, which is always good for a flame war, and they can
> help keep the group ticking over nicely, which certainly can help when
> it's 4 a.m., you can't sleep and staring at the four walls is just not
> an option. Again.
>
> I do it too, sometimes it's the only way I can interact with the group
> when I'm feeling really low or when I just can't be bothered thinking
> about how I feel. Again.
>
> People have different posting styles and to dismiss them as "idiots" on
> 2 days worth of posts is hardly fair or accurate. If everyone
> constantly stuck to posting about depression and nothing but within a
> week the number of subscribers here would plummet. If you don't like
> how certain people post, don't read them.
>

well i'm sorry you feel that way ,
but not all groups are for all people ,
you may not like some of us but you've only met a few ,
maybe if you give it a few more days you'll click with some of the others ,
the participation in this group is much larger than just what you saw today
,
either way best of luck finding a fit in





"John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:12l54t7p7etgc8e@corp.supernews.com...
> Ok, yes you are right...
>
> I think perhaps this is not the place for me, not for my particular
> personality. Im already feeling more depressed for being here, that is, I
> took a swipe, everyone took a swipe, I dont know....for me that doesnt
solve
> depression. I guess that is fine, as someone else said, different strokes
> for different folkes.
>
> I do have thoughts on it though, to me, taking swipes at people is
> depression. Few people actually said, woah buddy, that initial post was
> kinda rude and coulda been fraised better, your negative thoughts arnt
> conducive to happiness. Instead most became sarcstic, defensive and stayed
> defensive and as a result focused on the negative instead of the positive,
> which of course is depression. That is, people clung to the negative
aspects
> of what I said without acknologing the truth in it. (I agree thats
partially
> my fault as to the tone of the initial post) Clinging to the negative
> aspects in itself is a cause of depression.
>
> On the positive your post was a constructive thought out post.
>
> I think perhaps its better to be around non depressed people if you are
> depressed, it rubs off better. Either that or practice hard to point out
the
> positive things so that people can see they are being negative and thats
not
> an easy thing to do, being depressed and all because most the time you are
> unaware of it urself.
>
> John
>
> "BoredToTears" <beejayceee1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1163037052.241414.321210@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > John Sheppard wrote:
> >> Oh I understand that. Just stating my feelings is all. When I reach my
> >> threshhold I will move on.
> >>
> >> It is fairly common nature to feel frustrated when people ignore a
point.
> >> It's part of wanting to fit in a comminity and be understood. You might
> >> see
> >> the conundrum I have here. Increase my threshold of frustration, exist
> >> detatched (i.e. ignore idiots) or find better aquantances (i.e.. stop
> >> reading).
> >>
> >> I do not believe that is so simple, perhaps im wrong, perhaps you could
> >> supply me with other suggestions? At this point the best option is
> >> existing
> >> detatched, which as you may well know leads to depression.
> >
> > I don't see that people *are* ignoring your point, just replying to it
> > in their own way. The one-liners you complained about do serve a
> > purpose, imo. They can provide a distraction, they can raise a smile,
> > they can provoke people to start threads like this one, they can
> > infuriate and annoy, which is always good for a flame war, and they can
> > help keep the group ticking over nicely, which certainly can help when
> > it's 4 a.m., you can't sleep and staring at the four walls is just not
> > an option. Again.
> >
> > I do it too, sometimes it's the only way I can interact with the group
> > when I'm feeling really low or when I just can't be bothered thinking
> > about how I feel. Again.
> >
> > People have different posting styles and to dismiss them as "idiots" on
> > 2 days worth of posts is hardly fair or accurate. If everyone
> > constantly stuck to posting about depression and nothing but within a
> > week the number of subscribers here would plummet. If you don't like
> > how certain people post, don't read them.
> >
>
>

I guess what I was attempting to point out was that you were being negative.
That is possibly the reason why you are depressed, whether you posted or
not. Do you think that might be the case?

You are right, your post was not a cause of my depression, it did trigger it
though. I am the cause of my depression. The trigger was your negativity,
which in effect is a way of putting my views down.


"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d7KdnbW0SNvbDM_YnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> i'd be depressed whether you posted or not ,
> you're post really has nothing to do with my depression ,
> i had and opinion in a public for mat , i shared it , the end ,
> if it was a cause of depression for you i'm sorry about that ,
> but if you get depressed by my reply that's you getting depressed ,
> not me depressing you
>
>
>
>
> "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:12l532gnkj4kt29@corp.supernews.com...
>> haha thats true, but my issue is that you're opinion was sarcastic in an
>> attempt to discredit the validity of the post (why would you do that?),
> that
>> is, it was worthless, added nothing to the conversation, which you were
> not
>> particpating in (because you didnt read it). This makes you depressed,
> makes
>> me depressed. Its not a good for anyone.
>>
>> I appologise if im wrong as I may well be.
>>
>> If I am right, I hope that you can see you're comment as a cause of
>> depression and change you're ways.
>>
>>
>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ONednTL90Mk6GM_YnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> >i did analyze and shared my opinion , its too long for me to read ,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> > news:12l50p0n3lhdnc5@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> Thats fine. However I would appreciate if you dont feel like reading,
>> >> analysing and then contributing that you dont. It makes me frustrated
> as
>> > it
>> >> convolutes anything meaningful which might be said and I dont like
> that.
>> > Its
>> >> the equivelent of running through someone having a verbal
>> >> conversation.
>> > Its
>> >> quiete rude and disrespectful, to me and yourself.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > sorry , this is too long to read
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

well i never expected you to like me ,
i knew that from your first post ,
but oh well , you're not first in that category ,
and no i think the depression i get comes from exposure to ,
a lot of other things i've experienced in my life ,
so you've made you point about you thinking i'm negative ,
i could argue it but what you'd be the use ,
your already of the mindset and i won't change it





"John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:12l55hit74hmmbb@corp.supernews.com...
> I guess what I was attempting to point out was that you were being
negative.
> That is possibly the reason why you are depressed, whether you posted or
> not. Do you think that might be the case?
>
> You are right, your post was not a cause of my depression, it did trigger
it
> though. I am the cause of my depression. The trigger was your negativity,
> which in effect is a way of putting my views down.
>
>
> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d7KdnbW0SNvbDM_YnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> > i'd be depressed whether you posted or not ,
> > you're post really has nothing to do with my depression ,
> > i had and opinion in a public for mat , i shared it , the end ,
> > if it was a cause of depression for you i'm sorry about that ,
> > but if you get depressed by my reply that's you getting depressed ,
> > not me depressing you
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:12l532gnkj4kt29@corp.supernews.com...
> >> haha thats true, but my issue is that you're opinion was sarcastic in
an
> >> attempt to discredit the validity of the post (why would you do that?),
> > that
> >> is, it was worthless, added nothing to the conversation, which you were
> > not
> >> particpating in (because you didnt read it). This makes you depressed,
> > makes
> >> me depressed. Its not a good for anyone.
> >>
> >> I appologise if im wrong as I may well be.
> >>
> >> If I am right, I hope that you can see you're comment as a cause of
> >> depression and change you're ways.
> >>
> >>
> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ONednTL90Mk6GM_YnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> >i did analyze and shared my opinion , its too long for me to read ,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:12l50p0n3lhdnc5@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> Thats fine. However I would appreciate if you dont feel like
reading,
> >> >> analysing and then contributing that you dont. It makes me
frustrated
> > as
> >> > it
> >> >> convolutes anything meaningful which might be said and I dont like
> > that.
> >> > Its
> >> >> the equivelent of running through someone having a verbal
> >> >> conversation.
> >> > Its
> >> >> quiete rude and disrespectful, to me and yourself.
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > sorry , this is too long to read
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

i never said you are wrong ,
debating my depreson with you will avail me nothing ,
you can point out anything you feel like pointing out ,
but i can't comment in advance whether it will help or hinder






"John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:12l56kqsoq5n509@corp.supernews.com...
> If you want I could point out specifically where you are being negative? I
> will do that if you want me to, if it will help.
>
> The use of arguing (debating is a better term really) it would be to
figure
> out for yourself if your negativity is causing your depression and to
become
> aware of it.
>
> It's not about changing my mind set. That will change when and if I feel
> that I am wrong.
>
> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:S8adnev7sO5CCs_YnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> > well i never expected you to like me ,
> > i knew that from your first post ,
> > but oh well , you're not first in that category ,
> > and no i think the depression i get comes from exposure to ,
> > a lot of other things i've experienced in my life ,
> > so you've made you point about you thinking i'm negative ,
> > i could argue it but what you'd be the use ,
> > your already of the mindset and i won't change it
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:12l55hit74hmmbb@corp.supernews.com...
> >> I guess what I was attempting to point out was that you were being
> > negative.
> >> That is possibly the reason why you are depressed, whether you posted
or
> >> not. Do you think that might be the case?
> >>
> >> You are right, your post was not a cause of my depression, it did
trigger
> > it
> >> though. I am the cause of my depression. The trigger was your
negativity,
> >> which in effect is a way of putting my views down.
> >>
> >>
> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:d7KdnbW0SNvbDM_YnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> > i'd be depressed whether you posted or not ,
> >> > you're post really has nothing to do with my depression ,
> >> > i had and opinion in a public for mat , i shared it , the end ,
> >> > if it was a cause of depression for you i'm sorry about that ,
> >> > but if you get depressed by my reply that's you getting depressed ,
> >> > not me depressing you
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:12l532gnkj4kt29@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> haha thats true, but my issue is that you're opinion was sarcastic
in
> > an
> >> >> attempt to discredit the validity of the post (why would you do
> >> >> that?),
> >> > that
> >> >> is, it was worthless, added nothing to the conversation, which you
> >> >> were
> >> > not
> >> >> particpating in (because you didnt read it). This makes you
depressed,
> >> > makes
> >> >> me depressed. Its not a good for anyone.
> >> >>
> >> >> I appologise if im wrong as I may well be.
> >> >>
> >> >> If I am right, I hope that you can see you're comment as a cause of
> >> >> depression and change you're ways.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:ONednTL90Mk6GM_YnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> >> >i did analyze and shared my opinion , its too long for me to read ,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:12l50p0n3lhdnc5@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> >> Thats fine. However I would appreciate if you dont feel like
> > reading,
> >> >> >> analysing and then contributing that you dont. It makes me
> > frustrated
> >> > as
> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> convolutes anything meaningful which might be said and I dont
like
> >> > that.
> >> >> > Its
> >> >> >> the equivelent of running through someone having a verbal
> >> >> >> conversation.
> >> >> > Its
> >> >> >> quiete rude and disrespectful, to me and yourself.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > sorry , this is too long to read
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

"John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:12l562qfaok5m6a@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks Jane,
>
> Yes you are right, I was being closed minded.
>
> I will stick around see what goes down. Im a bit concerned about my mouse
> arm RSI though (Thats just a joke) I'll see how I go.
>
> John

See you're getting better, shorter messages, being funny and still getting
your point across.

Hang in there, bumps and bruises happen here, but all in all, it's a pretty
dysfunctional group that I absolutely adore!

BTW, even though the group is "titled" support.depression, there is so much
more here then support and depression.

Jane

"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:WaudnaUSpNshAs_YnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>
> "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:12l562qfaok5m6a@corp.supernews.com...
> > Thanks Jane,
> >
> > Yes you are right, I was being closed minded.
> >
> > I will stick around see what goes down. Im a bit concerned about my
mouse
> > arm RSI though (Thats just a joke) I'll see how I go.
> >
> > John
>
> See you're getting better, shorter messages, being funny and still getting
> your point across.
>
> Hang in there, bumps and bruises happen here, but all in all, it's a
pretty
> dysfunctional group that I absolutely adore!
>
> BTW, even though the group is "titled" support.depression, there is so
much
> more here then support and depression.
>
> Jane
>
>


like when we play pin the tail on the Canuck

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:r5CdnamtV8GjPM_YnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>
> "Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:WaudnaUSpNshAs_YnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>>
>> "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:12l562qfaok5m6a@corp.supernews.com...
>> > Thanks Jane,
>> >
>> > Yes you are right, I was being closed minded.
>> >
>> > I will stick around see what goes down. Im a bit concerned about my
> mouse
>> > arm RSI though (Thats just a joke) I'll see how I go.
>> >
>> > John
>>
>> See you're getting better, shorter messages, being funny and still
>> getting
>> your point across.
>>
>> Hang in there, bumps and bruises happen here, but all in all, it's a
> pretty
>> dysfunctional group that I absolutely adore!
>>
>> BTW, even though the group is "titled" support.depression, there is so
> much
>> more here then support and depression.
>>
>> Jane
>>
>>
>
>
> like when we play pin the tail on the Canuck
>
>

I happen to like the Canuck...

"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1cydnXjAN7rrPM_YnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>
> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:r5CdnamtV8GjPM_YnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >
> > "Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:WaudnaUSpNshAs_YnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
> >>
> >> "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:12l562qfaok5m6a@corp.supernews.com...
> >> > Thanks Jane,
> >> >
> >> > Yes you are right, I was being closed minded.
> >> >
> >> > I will stick around see what goes down. Im a bit concerned about my
> > mouse
> >> > arm RSI though (Thats just a joke) I'll see how I go.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >>
> >> See you're getting better, shorter messages, being funny and still
> >> getting
> >> your point across.
> >>
> >> Hang in there, bumps and bruises happen here, but all in all, it's a
> > pretty
> >> dysfunctional group that I absolutely adore!
> >>
> >> BTW, even though the group is "titled" support.depression, there is so
> > much
> >> more here then support and depression.
> >>
> >> Jane
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > like when we play pin the tail on the Canuck
> >
> >
>
> I happen to like the Canuck...
>
>

its that sexy tail

Ok, well I'll leave it at that. I been procrastinating for an exam :/

Thanks for discussion, its helped me sort a few things out.

John

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cKGdnVoHiNBVBs_YnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>i never said you are wrong ,
> debating my depreson with you will avail me nothing ,
> you can point out anything you feel like pointing out ,
> but i can't comment in advance whether it will help or hinder
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:12l56kqsoq5n509@corp.supernews.com...
>> If you want I could point out specifically where you are being negative?
>> I
>> will do that if you want me to, if it will help.
>>
>> The use of arguing (debating is a better term really) it would be to
> figure
>> out for yourself if your negativity is causing your depression and to
> become
>> aware of it.
>>
>> It's not about changing my mind set. That will change when and if I feel
>> that I am wrong.
>>
>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:S8adnev7sO5CCs_YnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> > well i never expected you to like me ,
>> > i knew that from your first post ,
>> > but oh well , you're not first in that category ,
>> > and no i think the depression i get comes from exposure to ,
>> > a lot of other things i've experienced in my life ,
>> > so you've made you point about you thinking i'm negative ,
>> > i could argue it but what you'd be the use ,
>> > your already of the mindset and i won't change it
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> > news:12l55hit74hmmbb@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> I guess what I was attempting to point out was that you were being
>> > negative.
>> >> That is possibly the reason why you are depressed, whether you posted
> or
>> >> not. Do you think that might be the case?
>> >>
>> >> You are right, your post was not a cause of my depression, it did
> trigger
>> > it
>> >> though. I am the cause of my depression. The trigger was your
> negativity,
>> >> which in effect is a way of putting my views down.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:d7KdnbW0SNvbDM_YnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> >> > i'd be depressed whether you posted or not ,
>> >> > you're post really has nothing to do with my depression ,
>> >> > i had and opinion in a public for mat , i shared it , the end ,
>> >> > if it was a cause of depression for you i'm sorry about that ,
>> >> > but if you get depressed by my reply that's you getting depressed ,
>> >> > not me depressing you
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:12l532gnkj4kt29@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> >> haha thats true, but my issue is that you're opinion was sarcastic
> in
>> > an
>> >> >> attempt to discredit the validity of the post (why would you do
>> >> >> that?),
>> >> > that
>> >> >> is, it was worthless, added nothing to the conversation, which you
>> >> >> were
>> >> > not
>> >> >> particpating in (because you didnt read it). This makes you
> depressed,
>> >> > makes
>> >> >> me depressed. Its not a good for anyone.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I appologise if im wrong as I may well be.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If I am right, I hope that you can see you're comment as a cause of
>> >> >> depression and change you're ways.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:ONednTL90Mk6GM_YnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> >> >> >i did analyze and shared my opinion , its too long for me to read
>> >> >> >,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:12l50p0n3lhdnc5@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> >> >> Thats fine. However I would appreciate if you dont feel like
>> > reading,
>> >> >> >> analysing and then contributing that you dont. It makes me
>> > frustrated
>> >> > as
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> convolutes anything meaningful which might be said and I dont
> like
>> >> > that.
>> >> >> > Its
>> >> >> >> the equivelent of running through someone having a verbal
>> >> >> >> conversation.
>> >> >> > Its
>> >> >> >> quiete rude and disrespectful, to me and yourself.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > sorry , this is too long to read
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

well i'm glad you sorted out whatever needed sorting ,
i hope the whole thing hasn't sent you into a depression ,
see ya around






"John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:12l59k6ebdc7fbc@corp.supernews.com...
> Ok, well I'll leave it at that. I been procrastinating for an exam :/
>
> Thanks for discussion, its helped me sort a few things out.
>
> John
>
> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cKGdnVoHiNBVBs_YnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >i never said you are wrong ,
> > debating my depreson with you will avail me nothing ,
> > you can point out anything you feel like pointing out ,
> > but i can't comment in advance whether it will help or hinder
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:12l56kqsoq5n509@corp.supernews.com...
> >> If you want I could point out specifically where you are being
negative?
> >> I
> >> will do that if you want me to, if it will help.
> >>
> >> The use of arguing (debating is a better term really) it would be to
> > figure
> >> out for yourself if your negativity is causing your depression and to
> > become
> >> aware of it.
> >>
> >> It's not about changing my mind set. That will change when and if I
feel
> >> that I am wrong.
> >>
> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:S8adnev7sO5CCs_YnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> > well i never expected you to like me ,
> >> > i knew that from your first post ,
> >> > but oh well , you're not first in that category ,
> >> > and no i think the depression i get comes from exposure to ,
> >> > a lot of other things i've experienced in my life ,
> >> > so you've made you point about you thinking i'm negative ,
> >> > i could argue it but what you'd be the use ,
> >> > your already of the mindset and i won't change it
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:12l55hit74hmmbb@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> I guess what I was attempting to point out was that you were being
> >> > negative.
> >> >> That is possibly the reason why you are depressed, whether you
posted
> > or
> >> >> not. Do you think that might be the case?
> >> >>
> >> >> You are right, your post was not a cause of my depression, it did
> > trigger
> >> > it
> >> >> though. I am the cause of my depression. The trigger was your
> > negativity,
> >> >> which in effect is a way of putting my views down.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:d7KdnbW0SNvbDM_YnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> >> > i'd be depressed whether you posted or not ,
> >> >> > you're post really has nothing to do with my depression ,
> >> >> > i had and opinion in a public for mat , i shared it , the end ,
> >> >> > if it was a cause of depression for you i'm sorry about that ,
> >> >> > but if you get depressed by my reply that's you getting depressed
,
> >> >> > not me depressing you
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:12l532gnkj4kt29@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> >> haha thats true, but my issue is that you're opinion was
sarcastic
> > in
> >> > an
> >> >> >> attempt to discredit the validity of the post (why would you do
> >> >> >> that?),
> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> is, it was worthless, added nothing to the conversation, which
you
> >> >> >> were
> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> particpating in (because you didnt read it). This makes you
> > depressed,
> >> >> > makes
> >> >> >> me depressed. Its not a good for anyone.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I appologise if im wrong as I may well be.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If I am right, I hope that you can see you're comment as a cause
of
> >> >> >> depression and change you're ways.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:ONednTL90Mk6GM_YnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> >> >> >i did analyze and shared my opinion , its too long for me to
read
> >> >> >> >,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:12l50p0n3lhdnc5@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> >> >> Thats fine. However I would appreciate if you dont feel like
> >> > reading,
> >> >> >> >> analysing and then contributing that you dont. It makes me
> >> > frustrated
> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> convolutes anything meaningful which might be said and I dont
> > like
> >> >> > that.
> >> >> >> > Its
> >> >> >> >> the equivelent of running through someone having a verbal
> >> >> >> >> conversation.
> >> >> >> > Its
> >> >> >> >> quiete rude and disrespectful, to me and yourself.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > sorry , this is too long to read
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

John Sheppard <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> Hello,

> Im new to this news group, been reading the 2 day back log, all I can say is
> hmmm freakin weird dudes...100's of one line posts....do you guys actually
> talk about depression or just exist in it? I think it would make me
> depressed spending hours reading through all those one line posts every day.


Two days is nothing, well, not much. Two months may not
be enough.

Weirdness you may find here, but much else. Welcome to
a.s.d.

millie wrote:
>> I do not believe that is so simple, perhaps im wrong, perhaps you
> could
>> supply me with other suggestions? At this point the best option is
> existing
>> detatched, which as you may well know leads to depression.
>
> How about you shoot yourself in the face? That would work.
>

The nazi contributes his 2 cents!

Well to be honest it didnt, subconscious habits arnt that easy to fix..
But one more chink always helps...but I did get a chink...

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:wamdnQkgU7VlO8_YnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> well i'm glad you sorted out whatever needed sorting ,
> i hope the whole thing hasn't sent you into a depression ,
> see ya around
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:12l59k6ebdc7fbc@corp.supernews.com...
>> Ok, well I'll leave it at that. I been procrastinating for an exam :/
>>
>> Thanks for discussion, its helped me sort a few things out.
>>
>> John
>>
>> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:cKGdnVoHiNBVBs_YnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> >i never said you are wrong ,
>> > debating my depreson with you will avail me nothing ,
>> > you can point out anything you feel like pointing out ,
>> > but i can't comment in advance whether it will help or hinder
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> > news:12l56kqsoq5n509@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> If you want I could point out specifically where you are being
> negative?
>> >> I
>> >> will do that if you want me to, if it will help.
>> >>
>> >> The use of arguing (debating is a better term really) it would be to
>> > figure
>> >> out for yourself if your negativity is causing your depression and to
>> > become
>> >> aware of it.
>> >>
>> >> It's not about changing my mind set. That will change when and if I
> feel
>> >> that I am wrong.
>> >>
>> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:S8adnev7sO5CCs_YnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> >> > well i never expected you to like me ,
>> >> > i knew that from your first post ,
>> >> > but oh well , you're not first in that category ,
>> >> > and no i think the depression i get comes from exposure to ,
>> >> > a lot of other things i've experienced in my life ,
>> >> > so you've made you point about you thinking i'm negative ,
>> >> > i could argue it but what you'd be the use ,
>> >> > your already of the mindset and i won't change it
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:12l55hit74hmmbb@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> >> I guess what I was attempting to point out was that you were being
>> >> > negative.
>> >> >> That is possibly the reason why you are depressed, whether you
> posted
>> > or
>> >> >> not. Do you think that might be the case?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You are right, your post was not a cause of my depression, it did
>> > trigger
>> >> > it
>> >> >> though. I am the cause of my depression. The trigger was your
>> > negativity,
>> >> >> which in effect is a way of putting my views down.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:d7KdnbW0SNvbDM_YnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> >> >> > i'd be depressed whether you posted or not ,
>> >> >> > you're post really has nothing to do with my depression ,
>> >> >> > i had and opinion in a public for mat , i shared it , the end ,
>> >> >> > if it was a cause of depression for you i'm sorry about that ,
>> >> >> > but if you get depressed by my reply that's you getting depressed
> ,
>> >> >> > not me depressing you
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:12l532gnkj4kt29@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> >> >> haha thats true, but my issue is that you're opinion was
> sarcastic
>> > in
>> >> > an
>> >> >> >> attempt to discredit the validity of the post (why would you do
>> >> >> >> that?),
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> is, it was worthless, added nothing to the conversation, which
> you
>> >> >> >> were
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> >> particpating in (because you didnt read it). This makes you
>> > depressed,
>> >> >> > makes
>> >> >> >> me depressed. Its not a good for anyone.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I appologise if im wrong as I may well be.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If I am right, I hope that you can see you're comment as a cause
> of
>> >> >> >> depression and change you're ways.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:ONednTL90Mk6GM_YnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> >> >> >> >i did analyze and shared my opinion , its too long for me to
> read
>> >> >> >> >,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:12l50p0n3lhdnc5@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> >> >> >> Thats fine. However I would appreciate if you dont feel like
>> >> > reading,
>> >> >> >> >> analysing and then contributing that you dont. It makes me
>> >> > frustrated
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> >> convolutes anything meaningful which might be said and I dont
>> > like
>> >> >> > that.
>> >> >> >> > Its
>> >> >> >> >> the equivelent of running through someone having a verbal
>> >> >> >> >> conversation.
>> >> >> >> > Its
>> >> >> >> >> quiete rude and disrespectful, to me and yourself.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > sorry , this is too long to read
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

% wrote:
> "purpleveggie" <purpleveggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1163028423.439347.185400@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > % wrote:
> > > "purpleveggie" <purpleveggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1163020513.664536.171700@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> > > >
> > > > % wrote:
> > > > > "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:eit3o1$3ga$1@news.datemas.de...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:12l39okti8334c0@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Im new to this news group, been reading the 2 day back log, all
> I
> > > can
> > > > > say
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > hmmm freakin weird dudes...100's of one line posts....do you
> guys
> > > > > actually
> > > > > > > talk about depression or just exist in it? I think it would make
> me
> > > > > > > depressed spending hours reading through all those one line
> posts
> > > every
> > > > > > day.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope yas get better soon..
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alrighty then, that's everything that's wrong with us, now what's
> > > wrong
> > > > > with
> > > > > > you and why are you're here?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Rhi
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > he suffers from SSE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > is that the techno term for an itchy scrotum?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > no , its ' Single Sentence Envy '
> >
> >
> > post count mania more like?
> >
>
>
> don't be jealous just because your post count isn't well stacked


:O( dont life suck?

haha, thanks theDoors, I dont drink coffee, milo for me

Thank you for your post you pretty much nailed it on the head exactly in a
non hostile way. That's a good post.

Yes it comes down to this group being alot different to other ones I am in
and when I was bombarded with 100 messages a day my immediate reaction was
holy crap, I dont have time to read these, then I started reading a few, and
99% of them were completly, hmm how to put it...irrelivant to anything
regarding my state of mind. Then I notice a few were minutes apart, one
lined and seamed like gibberish. I waited a few days, they kept comming so I
thought thats really weird, how is this dealing with anyones depression.
Then I posted.

Thats pretty much it, my intial post had an unfriendly tone to it, which
depressed people im thinking take very much as sarcasm. I wasnt intending to
bag anyone out, just state how I saw it from a newbies perspective.

Then came the sarcasm which way missed any point of anything which would
mean anything to anyone, I have a strong distaste for both sarcasm and
meaninglessness....i've done that for 10 years and im tired of it, but kept
banging my head.

So I think I orta stop doing that
John


"thedoors" <carollombard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163065429.995713.320820@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi again John.
>
> I didn't understand this place at first. I guess I was expecting every
> post to be about the poster's depression or something related to it. I
> am on another support group for SI and every post is about a person's
> SI history, or latest lapse, or moment of despair, or search for a
> cure.
>
> This is quite different. I believe the reason is that if you are
> clinically depressed, you aren't necessarily glum and catatonic all the
> time. My actual feelings of being depressed and down are episodic, now
> that I am on an antidepressant. Before that, I cried for hours every
> day, BUT the rest of the time I went about my life as usual, enjoyed
> the company of friends, and played lots of music.
>
> Some of the members here come here every day and are very connected to
> the site, or to someone on it, regardless of their mood. I visit every
> day, but don't always post.
>
> As far as their personalities, there is a wide range. You can ignore
> people you don't like, but they really are congenial enough to engage
> most of the time, and there are some really great people here, and
> unfailing support if you are in a crisis mode.
>
> Some are more touchy than others, some are bricks. But isn't that the
> way it would be in any group of people?
>
> Here, I know what the problem is. Nobody has offered you a cuppa tea
> yet! Wait right here, John, and I will go and make a cappucinno for
> you. Do you like it with froth on top?
>

"thedoors" <carollombard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163065429.995713.320820@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...

> Here, I know what the problem is. Nobody has offered you a cuppa tea
> yet! Wait right here, John, and I will go and make a cappucinno for
> you. Do you like it with froth on top?
>

allow me to handle, the crema part.

Gravity

Thats pretty much it, my intial post had an unfriendly tone to it,
which
depressed people im thinking take very much as sarcasm. I wasnt
intending to
bag anyone out, just state how I saw it from a newbies perspective.

<<

Actually John, it was factual and accurate. Other people have
expressed the same thing.
That doesn't mean you won't enjoy it if you stick around. I don't get
this in my mail because it would be too much stuff. I visit it thru
Google Groups. You can choose not to get it in your email.

I'm off to bed or the easy chair or something. Getting sleepy.
G'nite.

"John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:12l532gnkj4kt29@corp.supernews.com...
> haha thats true, but my issue is that you're opinion was sarcastic in an
> attempt to discredit the validity of the post (why would you do that?),
> that is, it was worthless, added nothing to the conversation, which you
> were not particpating in (because you didnt read it). This makes you
> depressed, makes me depressed. Its not a good for anyone.

WARNING: DO NOT READ THIS POST, IT CAUSES DEEP, DARK, MELANCHOLIC
DEPRESSION!

// exploit uses a synaptic overflow
// runs arbitrary thoughts at userlevel god
// shield your sockets, bitch

char shellcode[]="How's it going now, ay?"

I mearly meant that sarcasm ingrains depression...

"Gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
news:45530aa3$0$97217$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
>
> "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:12l532gnkj4kt29@corp.supernews.com...
>> haha thats true, but my issue is that you're opinion was sarcastic in an
>> attempt to discredit the validity of the post (why would you do that?),
>> that is, it was worthless, added nothing to the conversation, which you
>> were not particpating in (because you didnt read it). This makes you
>> depressed, makes me depressed. Its not a good for anyone.
>
> WARNING: DO NOT READ THIS POST, IT CAUSES DEEP, DARK, MELANCHOLIC
> DEPRESSION!
>
> // exploit uses a synaptic overflow
> // runs arbitrary thoughts at userlevel god
> // shield your sockets, bitch
>
> char shellcode[]="How's it going now, ay?"
>

that's nice




"John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:12l5r22aiprdm8e@corp.supernews.com...
> Well to be honest it didnt, subconscious habits arnt that easy to fix..
> But one more chink always helps...but I did get a chink...
>
> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wamdnQkgU7VlO8_YnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> > well i'm glad you sorted out whatever needed sorting ,
> > i hope the whole thing hasn't sent you into a depression ,
> > see ya around
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:12l59k6ebdc7fbc@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Ok, well I'll leave it at that. I been procrastinating for an exam :/
> >>
> >> Thanks for discussion, its helped me sort a few things out.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:cKGdnVoHiNBVBs_YnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> >i never said you are wrong ,
> >> > debating my depreson with you will avail me nothing ,
> >> > you can point out anything you feel like pointing out ,
> >> > but i can't comment in advance whether it will help or hinder
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:12l56kqsoq5n509@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> If you want I could point out specifically where you are being
> > negative?
> >> >> I
> >> >> will do that if you want me to, if it will help.
> >> >>
> >> >> The use of arguing (debating is a better term really) it would be to
> >> > figure
> >> >> out for yourself if your negativity is causing your depression and
to
> >> > become
> >> >> aware of it.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's not about changing my mind set. That will change when and if I
> > feel
> >> >> that I am wrong.
> >> >>
> >> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:S8adnev7sO5CCs_YnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> >> > well i never expected you to like me ,
> >> >> > i knew that from your first post ,
> >> >> > but oh well , you're not first in that category ,
> >> >> > and no i think the depression i get comes from exposure to ,
> >> >> > a lot of other things i've experienced in my life ,
> >> >> > so you've made you point about you thinking i'm negative ,
> >> >> > i could argue it but what you'd be the use ,
> >> >> > your already of the mindset and i won't change it
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:12l55hit74hmmbb@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> >> I guess what I was attempting to point out was that you were
being
> >> >> > negative.
> >> >> >> That is possibly the reason why you are depressed, whether you
> > posted
> >> > or
> >> >> >> not. Do you think that might be the case?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You are right, your post was not a cause of my depression, it did
> >> > trigger
> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> though. I am the cause of my depression. The trigger was your
> >> > negativity,
> >> >> >> which in effect is a way of putting my views down.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:d7KdnbW0SNvbDM_YnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> >> >> > i'd be depressed whether you posted or not ,
> >> >> >> > you're post really has nothing to do with my depression ,
> >> >> >> > i had and opinion in a public for mat , i shared it , the end ,
> >> >> >> > if it was a cause of depression for you i'm sorry about that ,
> >> >> >> > but if you get depressed by my reply that's you getting
depressed
> > ,
> >> >> >> > not me depressing you
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "John Sheppard" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:12l532gnkj4kt29@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> >> >> haha thats true, but my issue is that you're opinion was
> > sarcastic
> >> > in
> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> >> attempt to discredit the validity of the post (why would you
do
> >> >> >> >> that?),
> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> is, it was worthless, added nothing to the conversation, which
> > you
> >> >> >> >> were
> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> >> particpating in (because you didnt read it). This makes you
> >> > depressed,
> >> >> >> > makes
> >> >> >> >> me depressed. Its not