How would you feel

Had a friend commit suicide recently.
I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
This really freaks me out.
Why am I still standing, but not him

thegathterra

Lynne McIntyre wrote:
> Had a friend commit suicide recently.
> I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
> This really freaks me out.
> Why am I still standing, but not him
>
> thegathterra

Sorry to hear about your loss. I know it is very difficult, after
suicide, to not have a million questions starting w/why? Lynn you are
still here because maybe your a bit stronger. I veiw siucide as giving
up. Last resort. Anytime I think about it, I think about who needs me &
who it will effect. One thing that always ends up keeping me here is my
son. Aren't you upset @ your friend for giving up? I know I was. You
will work through whatever it is that got you thinking this way. People
need you to stay strong. Remember that.

"Whitewater" <whitewater960@tmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Lynne McIntyre wrote:
>> Had a friend commit suicide recently.
>> I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
>> This really freaks me out.
>> Why am I still standing, but not him
>>
>> thegathterra
>
> Sorry to hear about your loss. I know it is very difficult, after
> suicide, to not have a million questions starting w/why? Lynn you are
> still here because maybe your a bit stronger. I veiw siucide as giving
> up. Last resort. Anytime I think about it, I think about who needs me &
> who it will effect. One thing that always ends up keeping me here is my
> son. Aren't you upset @ your friend for giving up? I know I was. You
> will work through whatever it is that got you thinking this way. People
> need you to stay strong. Remember that.
>

when someone leaves their job, is it sad? when some says fuck a
relationship, is it sad? more than likely, the separation just leads to new
opportunities.

i hope my family isn't sad if and when i blow my brains out with a 9 mm.
cause i will probably be perfectly happy. they call it depression, and
other bullshit terms, but in reality, depressives are just sick of this
rotating mudball.

yeah they squeezed me out and gave me 18 years of money, but i don't owe
much of anyone a god damn thing.

i'll most than likely be reincarnated, and i don't really care much about
this single instance of my existence.

Grav

Gravity wrote:
> "Whitewater" <whitewater960@tmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162117092.743779.63640@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > Lynne McIntyre wrote:
> >> Had a friend commit suicide recently.
> >> I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
> >> This really freaks me out.
> >> Why am I still standing, but not him
> >>
> >> thegathterra
> >
> > Sorry to hear about your loss. I know it is very difficult, after
> > suicide, to not have a million questions starting w/why? Lynn you are
> > still here because maybe your a bit stronger. I veiw siucide as giving
> > up. Last resort. Anytime I think about it, I think about who needs me &
> > who it will effect. One thing that always ends up keeping me here is my
> > son. Aren't you upset @ your friend for giving up? I know I was. You
> > will work through whatever it is that got you thinking this way. People
> > need you to stay strong. Remember that.
> >
>
> when someone leaves their job, is it sad? when some says fuck a
> relationship, is it sad? more than likely, the separation just leads to new
> opportunities.
>
> i hope my family isn't sad if and when i blow my brains out with a 9 mm.

Grav, you know they would.


> cause i will probably be perfectly happy. they call it depression, and
> other bullshit terms, but in reality, depressives are just sick of this
> rotating mudball.
>
> yeah they squeezed me out and gave me 18 years of money, but i don't owe
> much of anyone a god damn thing.
>
> i'll most than likely be reincarnated, and i don't really care much about
> this single instance of my existence.
>
> Grav

"Whitewater" <whitewater960@tmail.com> wrote in message
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>> i hope my family isn't sad if and when i blow my brains out with a 9 mm.
>
> Grav, you know they would.

sorry, i'm not in a good mood. i can't give support at this point, and
don't belong in a so-called support group.

take care.

Grav

I am upset by my friends death. Pissed off because society still views
suicide as a taboo subject. I am still here because I don't want my Mum to
pick up the pieces Couldn't give a shit about my father though.

Hey Grav it is OK to be down. Try to be strong.


"Whitewater" <whitewater960@tmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Lynne McIntyre wrote:
>> Had a friend commit suicide recently.
>> I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
>> This really freaks me out.
>> Why am I still standing, but not him
>>
>> thegathterra
>
> Sorry to hear about your loss. I know it is very difficult, after
> suicide, to not have a million questions starting w/why? Lynn you are
> still here because maybe your a bit stronger. I veiw siucide as giving
> up. Last resort. Anytime I think about it, I think about who needs me &
> who it will effect. One thing that always ends up keeping me here is my
> son. Aren't you upset @ your friend for giving up? I know I was. You
> will work through whatever it is that got you thinking this way. People
> need you to stay strong. Remember that.
>

"Lynne McIntyre" <lynnevaneck@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>I am upset by my friends death. Pissed off because society still views
>suicide as a taboo subject. I am still here because I don't want my Mum to
>pick up the pieces Couldn't give a shit about my father though.

i checked out a library book on suicide. it was wiitten from the
perspective of philosophy. the conclusion was that suicide was not a good
decision. who knows, it may have averted mine.

i'm sorry about your friend.

Grav

>
> Hey Grav it is OK to be down. Try to be strong.
>
>
> "Whitewater" <whitewater960@tmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162117092.743779.63640@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> Lynne McIntyre wrote:
>>> Had a friend commit suicide recently.
>>> I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
>>> This really freaks me out.
>>> Why am I still standing, but not him
>>>
>>> thegathterra
>>
>> Sorry to hear about your loss. I know it is very difficult, after
>> suicide, to not have a million questions starting w/why? Lynn you are
>> still here because maybe your a bit stronger. I veiw siucide as giving
>> up. Last resort. Anytime I think about it, I think about who needs me &
>> who it will effect. One thing that always ends up keeping me here is my
>> son. Aren't you upset @ your friend for giving up? I know I was. You
>> will work through whatever it is that got you thinking this way. People
>> need you to stay strong. Remember that.
>>
>
>

Lynne McIntyre <lynnevaneck@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Had a friend commit suicide recently.
> I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
> This really freaks me out.
> Why am I still standing, but not him


How would I feel? sad. angry frightened
*sad* *angry* *frightened*

Gravity <gravity@example.net> wrote:

> i hope my family isn't sad if and when i blow my brains out with a 9 mm.
> cause i will probably be perfectly happy.

> i'll most than likely be reincarnated, and i don't really care much about
> this single instance of my existence.

umm, from what I know about Buddhism/whatever,
it's not a good way to go.

Lynne McIntyre <lynnevaneck@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Had a friend commit suicide recently.


to continue:

what did/didn't I do to cause/prevent it?
it wasn't your decision.
why didn't he/she ask for help?
that one always hurts.
why didn't they think of how I/and others are hurt?
sometimes they don't, the pain is that bad

Contrarian wrote:
> Lynne McIntyre <lynnevaneck@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > Had a friend commit suicide recently.
>
>
> to continue:
>
> what did/didn't I do to cause/prevent it?
> it wasn't your decision.
> why didn't he/she ask for help?
> that one always hurts.
> why didn't they think of how I/and others are hurt?
> sometimes they don't, the pain is that bad

These ?'s and then some go through my head when I'm @ that point of
thinking about it.

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:10:40 GMT, "Lynne McIntyre" <lynnevaneck@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>Had a friend commit suicide recently.

Sorry, losing someone close no matter how just hollows you out.

>I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
>This really freaks me out.
>Why am I still standing, but not him

Because the way people manage or cope is different. What can kill one person
or drive them to insanity, may make little if any impact on another. That
doesn't mean that one person is stronger or weaker than the other, it just
means that you may see, feel, experience things slightly differently.

Lynne McIntyre wrote:
> Had a friend commit suicide recently.
> I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
> This really freaks me out.
> Why am I still standing, but not him
>
> thegathterra
>
>

That's a very difficult thing to go through, you have my condolences. A
suicide always leaves so many unanswered questions, but I don't think
you'll find a solid easy answer because it's not that easy. Are you
seeing any kind of counselor, especially a grief counselor?

"Lynne McIntyre" <lynnevaneck@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:A6%0h.55241$rP1.11503@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

> Had a friend commit suicide recently.
> I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
> This really freaks me out.
> Why am I still standing, but not him
>
> thegathterra

Because his emotional pain overwhelmed his coping skills and yours hasn't.
I hope it never does. I'm sorry you lost your friend. There is not a lot I
can say to make that feel any better. I think all you can do is try to
focus on the good memories you have of him and take comfort in the fact that
he isn't suffering anymore. My thoughts are with you.

--
Rhi

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 04:28:18 -0600, "Gravity" <gravity@example.net>
wrote:

>
>"Whitewater" <whitewater960@tmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1162117092.743779.63640@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Lynne McIntyre wrote:
>>> Had a friend commit suicide recently.
>>> I went through the same sorta shit that he took his life for.
>>> This really freaks me out.
>>> Why am I still standing, but not him
>>>
>>> thegathterra
>>
>> Sorry to hear about your loss. I know it is very difficult, after
>> suicide, to not have a million questions starting w/why? Lynn you are
>> still here because maybe your a bit stronger. I veiw siucide as giving
>> up. Last resort. Anytime I think about it, I think about who needs me &
>> who it will effect. One thing that always ends up keeping me here is my
>> son. Aren't you upset @ your friend for giving up? I know I was. You
>> will work through whatever it is that got you thinking this way. People
>> need you to stay strong. Remember that.
>>
>
>when someone leaves their job, is it sad? when some says fuck a
>relationship, is it sad? more than likely, the separation just leads to new
>opportunities.
>
>i hope my family isn't sad if and when i blow my brains out with a 9 mm.
>cause i will probably be perfectly happy. they call it depression, and
>other bullshit terms, but in reality, depressives are just sick of this
>rotating mudball.
>
>yeah they squeezed me out and gave me 18 years of money, but i don't owe
>much of anyone a god damn thing.
>
>i'll most than likely be reincarnated, and i don't really care much about
>this single instance of my existence.
>
>Grav
>
Not that talk again G...you should stop drinking for a while, it seems
to come out with a vengence when you're drunk. I hate saying that to
people, drinkings fine, I hate AA and don't believe in "alcoholism" as
a disease, but my depression and other serious mental issues didn't
subside until I quit drinking (16 months now). My negative thoughts
pretty much disappeared after several weeks.

Bacon,

point taken. i should save my "suicide is liberation" rants for some group
besides ASD. i just feel death should be viewed in 2 ways. they threw a
thinly guised party after my grandfather's death to celebrate his life. he
drank and smoke, and well, everyone knew he wasn't going to make into his
80s. i do NOT want much of a funeral, i want a huge party with everyone
drunk and stoned. death is just the door to someplace else, in my opinion.

Grav